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  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    Apparently OP needed some entertainment today, and has posted a thread she is not actually participating in? LOL Wish she would define what she means by cleanse!
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
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    Anyone know of any easy cleanses that actually work?

    Soap and water.
  • Maitria
    Maitria Posts: 439 Member
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    It won't do anything miraculous, but if you like to cleanse for the mental aspect, you could try the O2 cleanse. Even doing one or two days may give you what you're looking for. It's supposed to be for four days, but that sounds miserable to me. I'm not really recommending that you do this, but if you are really wanting to try one, this uses regular food and you don't have to buy special teas or pills.

    http://www.womenshealthmag.com/fitness/the-o2-diet-cleanse
  • aliu00
    aliu00 Posts: 61
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    drink aloe juice for cleaning your body; sometimes I drink :b complex +vitamin D, then go for a exercise to sweat out --detox.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?

    I'm not saying this to dodge your question, but please read the above link. There really is no need to cleanse, your body is designed to do this for you.
    So your body always works at 100% efficiency and always does this job perfectly?


    First of all you are making a strawman argument. Nowhere in my post did I claim anything about digestive efficiency or perfection.

    Next, are you aware of any evidence that:

    a) Digestive efficiency is compromised in most people.
    and
    b) This is problematic and needs to be fixed.
    and
    c) A detox or cleanse will restore digestive efficiency and fix this problem

    To m knowledge, this evidence does not exist.
    A person says they feel the need to cleanse ( a broad, not-well-defined term), you say they don't need to cleanse, the body does this for you. Of what is the body cleansing itself?

    Cleanse is an ambiguous term used by proponents of pseudoscience as is the word "toxin". Typically they are used hand-in-hand because people cannot name a specific toxin that accumulates to dangerous levels and is removed by said detox product. In the traditional sense, this is the means by which cleanse/detox products are promoted.

    I'm simply claiming that there is no need to use these pseudoscientific detox or cleansing products because your digestive system and organs remove unwanted waste products and in the event that they didn't, the solution to this wouldn't lie in a "detox" product, unless you're simply constipated in which case a laxative or other dietary interventions (fiber, a chipotle binge) may do the trick.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,682 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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    I saw some things advertised earlier by a black magic specialist named baba ji that might work. Maybe one of them. I mean...he/she is a specialist after all. How wrong could he/she be?
  • helenarriaza
    helenarriaza Posts: 517 Member
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    Lysol does wonders.
  • Maitria
    Maitria Posts: 439 Member
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    I saw some things advertised earlier by a black magic specialist named baba ji that might work. Maybe one of them. I mean...he/she is a specialist after all. How wrong could he/she be?

    Did you take some to use a cloaking spell? Even though you are (were) the last person to post, Ninerbuff's post from five minutes ago shows up as the most recent post in the forum listings. :huh:
  • MaryJane_8810002
    MaryJane_8810002 Posts: 2,082 Member
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    Just go to the gym...
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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    I saw some things advertised earlier by a black magic specialist named baba ji that might work. Maybe one of them. I mean...he/she is a specialist after all. How wrong could he/she be?

    Did you take some to use a cloaking spell? Even though you are (were) the last person to post, Ninerbuff's post from five minutes ago shows up as the most recent post in the forum listings. :huh:

    Mana potion for breakfast. *nods* true story
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/
    Conclusion:
    Any product or service with the words “detox” or “cleanse” in the name is only truly effective at cleansing your wallet of cash. Alternative medicine’s ideas of detoxification and cleansing have no basis in reality. There’s no published evidence to suggest that detox treatments, kits or rituals have any effect on our body’s ability to eliminate waste products effectively. They do have the ability to harm however – not only direct effects, like coffee enemas and purgatives, but the broader distraction away from the reality of how the body actually works and what we need to do to keep it healthy. “Detox” focuses attention on irrelevant issues, and gives consumers the impression that they can undo lifestyle decisions with quick fixes. Improved health isn’t found in a box of herbs, a bottle of homeopathy, or a bag of coffee pushed into your rectum. The lifestyle implications of a poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking, lack of sleep, and alcohol or drug use cannot simply be flushed or purged away. Our kidneys and liver don’t need a detox treatment. If anyone suggests a detox or cleanse to you, you’d do well to ignore the suggestion, and question any other health advice they may offer.
  • Maitria
    Maitria Posts: 439 Member
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    Mana potion for breakfast. *nods* true story

    It's been recommended to me, but I had no idea it could do that. This has possibilities.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    So the body has systems that "remove waste (is that your term for "cleanse?"), and these systems always work at 100% efficiency? And your cleanse is to eat "more nutritionally dense food and fiber?" What if that person has constipation and IBS? What should they do in your opinion? Their colon is compromised, and is all that food/fiber going to help?
  • squishycatmew
    squishycatmew Posts: 151 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    So the body has systems that "remove waste (is that your term for "cleanse?"), and these systems always work at 100% efficiency? And your cleanse is to eat "more nutritionally dense food and fiber?" What if that person has constipation and IBS? What should they do in your opinion? Their colon is compromised, and is all that food/fiber going to help?

    No, but a commercial "cleanse" isn't going to help, either (well, the fiber in a lot of them, plus increased fluid intake, might help the constipation, but you can do that, again, by eating foods rich in fiber and drinking water). If someone has/suspects they have IBS or some other actual gastrointestinal disorder, they should see their doctor and discuss diagnosis and treatment options. Those sometimes involve special diets or avoiding certain foods, but that's not a cleanse, that's medical treatment, for people with an actual disorder.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?

    I'm not saying this to dodge your question, but please read the above link. There really is no need to cleanse, your body is designed to do this for you.
    So your body always works at 100% efficiency and always does this job perfectly?


    First of all you are making a strawman argument. Nowhere in my post did I claim anything about digestive efficiency or perfection.

    Next, are you aware of any evidence that:

    a) Digestive efficiency is compromised in most people.
    and
    b) This is problematic and needs to be fixed.
    and
    c) A detox or cleanse will restore digestive efficiency and fix this problem

    To m knowledge, this evidence does not exist.
    A person says they feel the need to cleanse ( a broad, not-well-defined term), you say they don't need to cleanse, the body does this for you. Of what is the body cleansing itself?

    Cleanse is an ambiguous term used by proponents of pseudoscience as is the word "toxin". Typically they are used hand-in-hand because people cannot name a specific toxin that accumulates to dangerous levels and is removed by said detox product. In the traditional sense, this is the means by which cleanse/detox products are promoted.

    I'm simply claiming that there is no need to use these pseudoscientific detox or cleansing products because your digestive system and organs remove unwanted waste products and in the event that they didn't, the solution to this wouldn't lie in a "detox" product, unless you're simply constipated in which case a laxative or other dietary interventions (fiber, a chipotle binge) may do the trick.
    So we've established:
    that "cleanse: is not a well defined term.
    that the body does cleanse itself, and needs to cleanse.

    And now your suggesting that the colon is an area that needs to be cleansed, and you recommend a laxative, more fiber, excessive spicy foods as a means of cleansing the colon?

    This may work for you, but for a person with an already irritated digestive tract, this will only compound the existing problem.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    So the body has systems that "remove waste (is that your term for "cleanse?"), and these systems always work at 100% efficiency? And your cleanse is to eat "more nutritionally dense food and fiber?" What if that person has constipation and IBS? What should they do in your opinion? Their colon is compromised, and is all that food/fiber going to help?

    No, but a commercial "cleanse" isn't going to help, either (well, the fiber in a lot of them, plus increased fluid intake, might help the constipation, but you can do that, again, by eating foods rich in fiber and drinking water). If someone has/suspects they have IBS or some other actual gastrointestinal disorder, they should see their doctor and discuss diagnosis and treatment options. Those sometimes involve special diets or avoiding certain foods, but that's not a cleanse, that's medical treatment, for people with an actual disorder.
    So if you go to the dr, they will heal you and you won't have a problem anymore?
  • ihad
    ihad Posts: 7,463 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    So the body has systems that "remove waste (is that your term for "cleanse?"), and these systems always work at 100% efficiency? And your cleanse is to eat "more nutritionally dense food and fiber?" What if that person has constipation and IBS? What should they do in your opinion? Their colon is compromised, and is all that food/fiber going to help?

    No, but a commercial "cleanse" isn't going to help, either (well, the fiber in a lot of them, plus increased fluid intake, might help the constipation, but you can do that, again, by eating foods rich in fiber and drinking water). If someone has/suspects they have IBS or some other actual gastrointestinal disorder, they should see their doctor and discuss diagnosis and treatment options. Those sometimes involve special diets or avoiding certain foods, but that's not a cleanse, that's medical treatment, for people with an actual disorder.
    So if you go to the dr, they will heal you and you won't have a problem anymore?

    I can't quite follow the point you are trying to make in the context of what everyone else is talking about. Do you believe that everyone, regardless of specific health or medical issue, needs an occasional specifically designed often overpriced cleansing solution to remove toxins and restore their body to optimal health?
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,676 Member
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    There's no need to detox or cleanse your system and you also do not need to give your organs "a break".

    Please see here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1159755-looking-for-a-detox-cleanse
    Why doesn't your body need to detox or cleanse?
    Because it's very very efficient at ridding itself of unwanted waste on it's own. When people feel down, low, "yucky", etc., it's usually because they are just LACKING nutrients. Add them and/or increase them and VOILA!

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    What is the body cleansing? How do you know, comprehensively, what makes a person feel down and low?
    The body removes waste that's uneeded. It's systematic at that, just like it attacks bacteria and viruses that invade it. Can you help it along? Sure, but one doesn't NEED to "detox or cleanse" to do it. Eating more nutritionally dense food and fiber is a great approach without having to spend extra money.
    Comprehensively, people who state they are down and low basically come out and just say it. I guess I'll just take their word for it.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    So the body has systems that "remove waste (is that your term for "cleanse?"), and these systems always work at 100% efficiency? And your cleanse is to eat "more nutritionally dense food and fiber?" What if that person has constipation and IBS? What should they do in your opinion? Their colon is compromised, and is all that food/fiber going to help?

    No, but a commercial "cleanse" isn't going to help, either (well, the fiber in a lot of them, plus increased fluid intake, might help the constipation, but you can do that, again, by eating foods rich in fiber and drinking water). If someone has/suspects they have IBS or some other actual gastrointestinal disorder, they should see their doctor and discuss diagnosis and treatment options. Those sometimes involve special diets or avoiding certain foods, but that's not a cleanse, that's medical treatment, for people with an actual disorder.
    So if you go to the dr, they will heal you and you won't have a problem anymore?

    I can't quite follow the point you are trying to make in the context of what everyone else is talking about. Do you believe that everyone, regardless of specific health or medical issue, needs an occasional specifically designed often overpriced cleansing solution to remove toxins and restore their body to optimal health?
    No.