42 calorie macaroni and cheese!
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Did you read the entire thread? Someone commented on how low calorie the recipe was and posted a link to eating disorders (unless it was taken down after I flagged it). IMO, that is attacking someone...Not a singe person attacked the OP. They pointed out that the recipe is unlikely to be anything but grotesque.
The recipe =/= the OP.
I really wish people could see that difference. It would really cut down on the unnecessary white knighting and inevitable (and equally useless) mean people threads.
It's amazing how even though the post is actually visible, you still go ahead and make crap up. Never said that the reason I put up the link was because she posted some low calorie recipe, nor did I say or insinuate the recipe was linked to her having an ED.
I provided the link because OP's diary didn't just consist of one or two days of under 900 calorie days but WEEKS of it...ranging from 900, 700, 500, and even a couple 200-something days.
And if you've been on the forums awhile, you also tend to notice people who are pro-ana tend to lean towards certain low cal foods (shirataki noodles being one of the favorite choices) in order to fool themselves into being fool while trying to maintain their dangerous lifestyles. I've also known people in recovery from such eating disorders that have admitted this to me. But again, that wasn't the reason I put up the link.
So how is it attacking when someone shows genuine concern of someone else who is seemingly displaying certain behaviours (like habitual low calorie logging) to provide the link to the National Eating Disorder website that provides information and services for those with EDs to get help, again?0 -
What I've learned on the MFP forums today: there are actually posters on the forums that have been here since 2011 that - apparently - don't know who trog is.
Mind.Blown.0 -
This thread turned epic since this morning.
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The horror :sick:When I read recipe threads, I am SO GRATEFUL for the people who comment negatively. Negative comments keep expectations for a recipe low, which I like (and sometimes the negative comments are funny). I can choose to listen to them and be cautious or make substitutions, or I can ignore them and see if they're wrong.
The (unfortunately deactivated) OP asked for opinions in a public place and got exactly what she asked for. The people saying, "If you don't have something nice to say, just keep scrolling." NO. You have it backwards. If you don't like the COMMENTS, then YOU keep scrolling, or use the "Ignore User" function.
Thank you negative people, for throwing words of caution into this recipe thread.
In the future, if any of you want to avoid opinions that may differ from yours, staying out of the public forums and keeping your ideas to your own friend list is probably a good idea. :flowerforyou:
This is why we're friends. I think I'd rather eat this mac n cheese though
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What I've learned on the MFP forums today: there are actually posters on the forums that have been here since 2011 that - apparently - don't know who trog is.
Mind.Blown.
It's because he changed his profile pic...0 -
heh.What I've learned on the MFP forums today: there are actually posters on the forums that have been here since 2011 that - apparently - don't know who trog is.
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When I read recipe threads, I am SO GRATEFUL for the people who comment negatively. Negative comments keep expectations for a recipe low, which I like (and sometimes the negative comments are funny). I can choose to listen to them and be cautious or make substitutions, or I can ignore them and see if they're wrong.
The (unfortunately deactivated) OP asked for opinions in a public place and got exactly what she asked for. The people saying, "If you don't have something nice to say, just keep scrolling." NO. You have it backwards. If you don't like the COMMENTS, then YOU keep scrolling, or use the "Ignore User" function.
Thank you negative people, for throwing words of caution into this recipe thread.
In the future, if any of you want to avoid opinions that may differ from yours, staying out of the public forums and keeping your ideas to your own friend list is probably a good idea. :flowerforyou:
This is why we're friends. I think I'd rather eat this mac n cheese though
I think that's justification for me to shoot someone in self defense.0 -
So how is it attacking when someone shows genuine concern of someone else who is seemingly displaying certain behaviours (like habitual low calorie logging) to provide the link to the National Eating Disorder website that provides information and services for those with EDs to get help, again?
I don't think it's an attack unless you have zero good intentions. People get defensive when you call them out on something in front of an audience. If you suspected a friend/relative had an ED would you talk to them privately or announce it in front of a large group of people?
My two cents? The recipe sounds gross and I'm amused when people are offended for others on the internet.
Hooray for mean people threads.0 -
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ooooo... I'm in to hear back about the gastrointestinal experience of trying this recipe.
I could hang until I saw this.
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If you feel sincere concern for someone, esp. on a sensitive subject like an ED, a private e-mail may have been a better route.
In addition, there may be circumstances that you are not aware of or are not entitled to know that could explain low cal counts. The OP attempted to explain her reasons even though she never should of had to. If you took a quick look at my diary you may have come to the same conclusion about me. ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOT A GOOD THING. A closer look with relevant facts included could definitely leave anyone assuming I have an ED ashamed at their snap judgement. I am in a wheelchair and battling a muscle disease which makes exercise and physical activity very different from what most others can do. Things like the disease itself, infusions and medication often have eating restrictions or make me sick. Putting all that + other things in the equation = the low cal count. I'm interested in low-cal food because my daily limit isn't high and I would rather get more food per cal when I want AND can eat.
Wishing everyone good luck in their individual journeys! :flowerforyou:0 -
When I read recipe threads, I am SO GRATEFUL for the people who comment negatively. Negative comments keep expectations for a recipe low, which I like (and sometimes the negative comments are funny). I can choose to listen to them and be cautious or make substitutions, or I can ignore them and see if they're wrong.
The (unfortunately deactivated) OP asked for opinions in a public place and got exactly what she asked for. The people saying, "If you don't have something nice to say, just keep scrolling." NO. You have it backwards. If you don't like the COMMENTS, then YOU keep scrolling, or use the "Ignore User" function.
Thank you negative people, for throwing words of caution into this recipe thread.
In the future, if any of you want to avoid opinions that may differ from yours, staying out of the public forums and keeping your ideas to your own friend list is probably a good idea. :flowerforyou:
This is why we're friends. I think I'd rather eat this mac n cheese though
OMG that mac & cheese is an abomination. Though I'd still eat it instead of the shazam noodles, or whatever they're called.0 -
If you feel sincere concern for someone, esp. on a sensitive subject like an ED, a private e-mail may have been a better route.
In addition, there may be circumstances that you are not aware of or are not entitled to know that could explain low cal counts. The OP attempted to explain her reasons even though she never should of had to. If you took a quick look at my diary you may have come to the same conclusion about me. ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOT A GOOD THING. A closer look with relevant facts included could definitely leave anyone assuming I have an ED ashamed at their snap judgement. I am in a wheelchair and battling a muscle disease which makes exercise and physical activity very different from what most others can do. Things like the disease itself, infusions and medication often have eating restrictions or make me sick. Putting all that + other things in the equation = the low cal count. I'm interested in low-cal food because my daily limit isn't high and I would rather get more food per cal when I want AND can eat.
Wishing everyone good luck in their individual journeys! :flowerforyou:
#1. I am embarrassed to admit this, but I never thought of sending a PM if I suspected ED. Thanks for that. :flowerforyou:
#2. As for not knowing everything about a situation, that's why it's important to include all relevant details in your original post. A lot of times I see threads where commenters get frustrated because the OP left out crucial medical details (like your example) which would affect answers given.
Thanks and good luck to you.
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This sounds terrible but seeing as how I already have those ingredients and am a stupidly low cal target (for me) I'll give it a crack tomorrow.
No!
DON'T DO IT!
I disagree.
DO IT! AND REPORT BACK!
FOR SCIENCE!!
Alright.
For science.
With pictures.
*blurgh*
Hey, better him than me.
I'll take one for the team.
Prelogged until Friday so it will be happening then. That is 48 hours away Americans
In.
Mainly because Im curious how it turns out. This concoction sounds like something I'd only eat when I'm like 7 days away from a paycheck and am for some reason really broke and thinking about how to combine random stuff in my cupboards
I think scouring the street for the $0.25 to buy a package of ramen sounds like a better idea, personally.
But so in to see results.
i live in chinatown. do you know how many shazam (i'm stealing that from a previous poster in this thread) i can get for 25 cents? like 2 pounds worth and they'd probably throw in a bag of those flaky dried fish my cat used to love.0 -
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If you feel sincere concern for someone, esp. on a sensitive subject like an ED, a private e-mail may have been a better route.
In addition, there may be circumstances that you are not aware of or are not entitled to know that could explain low cal counts. The OP attempted to explain her reasons even though she never should of had to. If you took a quick look at my diary you may have come to the same conclusion about me. ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOT A GOOD THING. A closer look with relevant facts included could definitely leave anyone assuming I have an ED ashamed at their snap judgement. I am in a wheelchair and battling a muscle disease which makes exercise and physical activity very different from what most others can do. Things like the disease itself, infusions and medication often have eating restrictions or make me sick. Putting all that + other things in the equation = the low cal count. I'm interested in low-cal food because my daily limit isn't high and I would rather get more food per cal when I want AND can eat.
Wishing everyone good luck in their individual journeys! :flowerforyou:
#1. I am embarrassed to admit this, but I never thought of sending a PM if I suspected ED. Thanks for that. :flowerforyou:
#2. As for not knowing everything about a situation, that's why it's important to include all relevant details in your original post. A lot of times I see threads where commenters get frustrated because the OP left out crucial medical details (like your example) which would affect answers given.
Thanks and good luck to you.
If one is simply asking for thoughts/experiences/advice with a recipe I utterly fail in seeing the relevant necessity of a medical disclosure. No one should HAVE to disclose any personal information, especially when it is completely irrelevant to the question posed in the original post. I don't have anymore to say on this subject; hopefully something positive will come out of the things I wrote.0 -
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Did you read the entire thread? Someone commented on how low calorie the recipe was and posted a link to eating disorders (unless it was taken down after I flagged it). IMO, that is attacking someone...Not a singe person attacked the OP. They pointed out that the recipe is unlikely to be anything but grotesque.
The recipe =/= the OP.
I really wish people could see that difference. It would really cut down on the unnecessary white knighting and inevitable (and equally useless) mean people threads.
It's amazing how even though the post is actually visible, you still go ahead and make crap up. Never said that the reason I put up the link was because she posted some low calorie recipe, nor did I say or insinuate the recipe was linked to her having an ED.
I provided the link because OP's diary didn't just consist of one or two days of under 900 calorie days but WEEKS of it...ranging from 900, 700, 500, and even a couple 200-something days.
And if you've been on the forums awhile, you also tend to notice people who are pro-ana tend to lean towards certain low cal foods (shirataki noodles being one of the favorite choices) in order to fool themselves into being fool while trying to maintain their dangerous lifestyles. I've also known people in recovery from such eating disorders that have admitted this to me. But again, that wasn't the reason I put up the link.
So how is it attacking when someone shows genuine concern of someone else who is seemingly displaying certain behaviours (like habitual low calorie logging) to provide the link to the National Eating Disorder website that provides information and services for those with EDs to get help, again?
If you go into the why is everyone hateful thread I was actually defending the people who deactivate their accounts. However I sent Pika a kudos message for the reply mentioning ED. Pika took the time to go into the OP's diary and review not just a day but a long period of time and noticed a scary trend. OUT OF CARING Pika didn't accuse the OP of an ED just simply gave some information IN CASE the OP needed help.
I still think it was the right thing to do because their may be others who are looking at low calorie alternatives but not in a healthy way. There was no finger pointing or "OP must be throwing up after eating this to lose even more calories" or something along those lines. Pika provided information that honestly may be needed.
Wow in one day I went from hating the forums to defending the "haters" ... I had to step back and logically think things through..
What's happening to me
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ooooo... I'm in to hear back about the gastrointestinal experience of trying this recipe.
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Okay, I was super curious about this, so I did a little number crunching using the food database here, and I got numbers that were between 43 and 49 calories. So just a liiiiittle bit off, but damn those are still some really low numbers!
@SherryTeach That's too bad! I was just thinking that I was going to try this recipe myself… What was so bad about the mac and cheese you ate? Was it the shirataki noodles? I've never heard of them before...
It was the shirataki noodles, which even though I followed all the recommendations for preparing them, were weird in texture and taste. Also, there is no way that cottage cheese can substitute for good cheddar! Maybe other people would like it. Let me know!0 -
Wow in one day I went from hating the forums to defending the "haters" ... I had to step back and logically think things through..
What's happening to me
see?...I told ya (in the hater thread) that if ya hung around here long enough you'd be just like the 'meanies' :laugh:
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about 7 hours to go
Doing 1 packet of noodles, 25g cottage cheese, 25g low fat shredded cheese, mustard and spices. I'll dry fry the noodles first as this always works best.0 -
Thanks for trying this and letting us know how it turns out!! Pics too? Good luck
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Thanks OP! : D
I tried this and it was actually surprisingly good! Obviously it isn't as good as the real thing, but for such a low carb/low calorie replacement, it came pretty damn close.
I didn't have reduced fat cheese so I just used regular, but that hardly made a difference with the calories. I also didn't microwave it (I don't like the taste of microwaved food), and I dry-fried the noodles first then added the rest of ingredients and fried it all together til the cheese melted and it was hot.
I would definitely make this again if I had a major macncheese craving. Although it isn't quite as good as real macncheese, it really DOES stop a macncheese craving (which I get ALL The time) right in its tracks.
For people not used to shirataki noodles--try not to let the texture get to you. The taste is honestly not bad, but the texture is what can throw some people off. Dry frying helps.0 -
just reading it makes me feel sickish:indifferent: :indifferent: :frown:0
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After taking a look at the OP's diary...I'm just going to leave this here, just in case.
http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/find-help-support
I know how it is to want to lose the weight and want to do it fast, but doing what you are doing isn't healthy at all and it could lead to some serious consequences. Please reconsider what you are doing to yourself.
She only offered the recipe...she didn't say it was all she was eating. She may very well be making as a side dish to a full meal. I love the idea that I could make a side of mac n cheese for only 42 cal...would go well with a bbq chicken breast and a big pile of steamed brocoli0 -
I found this recipe while searching for low-carb ideas for my shirataki noodles. Anyone tried it? I'm pretty excited, but I just have a feeling it might be too good to be true. Then again, it has been AGES since I've had mac n cheese, so maybe I won't notice too much : P.
http://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/healthy-recipes/skinny-mac-n-cheese
Ingredients:
1 bag (7 ounces) shirataki ziti noodles
1 pinch salt
2 tablespoons unsweetened almond milk
2 tablespoons low-fat cottage cheese
3 tablespoons shredded low-fat cheddar cheese
1/4 teaspoon dry mustard
1 pinch cayenne pepper
Directions:
Wash noodles thoroughly in water and pat dry with a paper towel. Place in a bowl and mix in remaining ingredients, adding pepper to taste. Microwave for 2 to 3 minutes until cheese is fully melted.
If you were to make a bigger portion, I would say put the milk in a sauce pan, heat it up to a simmer-boil and turn it off. Then add the cheese in it and mix until it is melted or add in whatever else you'd like in . That way you have a nicer, smoother sauce.
Pour it over the noodles and mix it.
As for the noodles, I personally don't like them. It's too rubbery/chewy for me.. I haven't found a way to make them pasta-like. Just remember to wash them very well to get rid of the smell..
(Spaghetti Squash all the way! :happy: )0 -
For those of you blessed enough not to go into a diabetic coma from a serving or two of real pasta, eat the real thing. Pasta has somewhere between 40-60+ grams of carbohydrate PER SERVING. That's before you add anything.
I have had the shirataki noodles. Rinse and dry fry or add to a homemade ramen stock. The real shirataki noodles are a weird brown looking thing but have zero carbs and the tofu-shirataki are about 2g per serving. I've found them in the package for about $1.60 each. Not cheap as it's about 2 servings, but for very low carb....it works. Made stir fry and soup so far.0 -
Was pretty good. All the cheese is melted on the inside of the noodles. For just over 100 cals it is decently filling. (There is 350g of veggies in the other bowl as well though)
I haven't had real mac and cheese in a LONG time. Not for caloric reasons, it's just not a big favourite of mine so not a whole lot to compare to.
For the amount of noodles I had, real pasta would be an extra 200 cals so easy to fit in. (But I prefer to use my carbs on better stuff than that) 0
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