How do you handle tantrums?
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Temperament definitely can be a factor and that is a very valid point. My 2 are completely opposite - my daughter is outgoing and social, wants to please everyone, and my son is the retrospective "sensitive" one who is also much more stubborn than she is.
However, with my kids at least, I know it isn't just temperament. The biggest reason I know this is that my son has tantrums with his father. I've witnessed them. The last one I saw with my own eyes was about 6 months ago - and he just turned 7 2 days ago. Just doesn't happen in my house.
Temperament aside, there are enough strategies that will work on any type of child, that tantrums don't have to be the "normal necessity" they are claimed to be by some.
Your son is still having tantrums at 7 years old?
This makes my point -- while parenting is an issue, you really don't have the answers. Mine had tantrums usually when she was getting sick, but she didn't have a single tantrum past the age of 3. With anyone. Ever.0 -
Is this thing still going??
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Temperament definitely can be a factor and that is a very valid point. My 2 are completely opposite - my daughter is outgoing and social, wants to please everyone, and my son is the retrospective "sensitive" one who is also much more stubborn than she is.
However, with my kids at least, I know it isn't just temperament. The biggest reason I know this is that my son has tantrums with his father. I've witnessed them. The last one I saw with my own eyes was about 6 months ago - and he just turned 7 2 days ago. Just doesn't happen in my house.
Temperament aside, there are enough strategies that will work on any type of child, that tantrums don't have to be the "normal necessity" they are claimed to be by some.
Your son is still having tantrums at 7 years old?
This makes my point -- while parenting is an issue, you really don't have the answers. Mine had tantrums usually when she was getting sick, but she didn't have a single tantrum past the age of 3. With anyone. Ever.
My point is that the tantrums don't happen in my house, or in my presence. He also doesn't live with me full time, so I don't have as much influence on his emotional state as I would like. I have absolutely no control over what happens with his other parent. And I've never said I don't have all the answers, just trying to share the ones I know that do work.0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: sersly.Is this thing still going??
spank or don't spank. choose. those are the only two options.
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My point is that the tantrums don't happen in my house, or in my presence. He also doesn't live with me full time, so I don't have as much influence on his emotional state as I would like. I have absolutely no control over what happens with his other parent. And I've never said I don't have all the answers, just trying to share the ones I know that do work.
Right. You've taught him not to throw tantrums with you, but not not to throw tantrums.
He's 7. Aside from some kind of emotional or other disorder, that's very old to be throwing tantrums at all.
I took issue with you coming into this thread and telling everyone how much better of a parent you are because your kids don't throw tantrums because you knew all the right things to do. And that clearly isn't true. One of our responsibilities as parents is to teach children how to behave in the world, away from us. If they behave in your home, but not in others' homes, they haven't learned that lesson.
Doesn't make you a bad parent. Just proves you aren't quite as superior a parent as you think. We all have our struggles and outside of outright neglect or abuse or being overly permissive (a form of neglect), no one has the answer that will work for everyone else. We all have our struggles and personal issues with our children. You just have different ones from some of the people responding here.0 -
My mother had a warning system. She would give 1 warning. If after warning my siblings the tantrum continued, we left the store/mall/restaurant. Very often, my mom was alone at the grocery store with the 3 of us and she had to step outside while her full cart waited for her inside. She would sit outside with us and wait. And wait. No toys. No conversation. No reasoning. Just waiting. Eventually, without any more fuel, the tantrumer knocked it off. She would ask if we were ready to go back into the store. She would wait until we said "yes, mom." Then we went back in.
Thanks for this methodology. I like it and will use it0 -
My point is that the tantrums don't happen in my house, or in my presence. He also doesn't live with me full time, so I don't have as much influence on his emotional state as I would like. I have absolutely no control over what happens with his other parent. And I've never said I don't have all the answers, just trying to share the ones I know that do work.
Right. You've taught him not to throw tantrums with you, but not not to throw tantrums.
He's 7. Aside from some kind of emotional or other disorder, that's very old to be throwing tantrums at all.
I took issue with you coming into this thread and telling everyone how much better of a parent you are because your kids don't throw tantrums because you knew all the right things to do. And that clearly isn't true. One of our responsibilities as parents is to teach children how to behave in the world, away from us. If they behave in your home, but not in others' homes, they haven't learned that lesson.
Doesn't make you a bad parent. Just proves you aren't quite as superior a parent as you think. We all have our struggles and outside of outright neglect or abuse or being overly permissive (a form of neglect), no one has the answer that will work for everyone else. We all have our struggles and personal issues with our children. You just have different ones from some of the people responding here.
I've never said I'm a better parent or superior to anyone and I don't think that. I apologize if I made anyone feel that way. What I said is that I've been lucky enough to live with someone who knows how to deal with kids really really well, and I've learned some things from him. He works with the most difficult kids you could imagine - kids who have seen their family members shot, kids who try to commit suidice (at age 4 and 5 - this is preschool we're talking about), kids whose parents are more often than not drug addicts and/or gang members. He also has completely "normal" kids who don't have those issues, and having seen what he does firsthand, I assure you there are strategies that will work on any child if they are implemented correctly. I honestly am not the expert here, he is. I am simply trying to share things that I've learned from him.
As I stated, I can't control what happens when my son is with his dad. As I also stated, I don't have him full time, so I don't have as much influence on his behavior as I would like to. The OP asked "how do you handle tantrums" and I tried to give my input. That's all. I'm sorry if it offended anyone.0 -
I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.0
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Mine are experts lol they are 3 and 2 year old boys and cant throw mega strops! I start by trying to calm them down and talk sense into them then if they keep being naughty I just say " naughty boys dont get any attention - mummy cant see naughty boys" and they pout and give up lol0
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I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
I agree, I think you were fine. It's hard to get the point across on the internets and everything can be taking wrong.
I was thinking about this, and I try to follow what you do as well, doesn't always work...
but my thinking also is, if you don't let your children tantrum once in a while and work through those feelings, how are they ever going to learn to work through those feelings? Things aren't always going to be handled in a timely manner in real life. When your kid grows up or goes to school they are going to have days where their needs aren't necessarily going to be met. What's going to happen then?
When my son struggles with something...like getting his shoes on and off, something he does in the car, he FREAKS out and screams and yells "Help Mom Mom! Help!!" And I'm driving, so I can't really help him....I'm not going to pull over to help him either, I know he is safe and okay and everything, so I tell him, "it's okay honey, you can figure it out" and I try talk him through it, generally it calms him down, but I think it's important to let your kid get frustrated once in a while so they can learn how to handle their frustration because life is FULL of it.0 -
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
I think I take things too personally sometimes. Just something to work on personally I suppose0 -
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.0 -
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.
Just saw this was going on. I might add that while her original post raised my hackles a bit, she is genuinely trying to be helpful, and now we are friends, so that's all fine and dandy. Also, where did midwestern kid hater go?0 -
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.
Just saw this was going on. I might add that while her original post raised my hackles a bit, she is genuinely trying to be helpful, and now we are friends, so that's all fine and dandy. Also, where did midwestern kid hater go?
I think he is sitting on a park bench by himself feeding pigeons.0 -
Hopefully he's somewhere surrounded by screaming children.
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.
Just saw this was going on. I might add that while her original post raised my hackles a bit, she is genuinely trying to be helpful, and now we are friends, so that's all fine and dandy. Also, where did midwestern kid hater go?
It was the phrasing. It's one thing to say, "This is what I do, and these are the results." So, yeah, my issue was the phrasing.
But I've probably been guilty of that sin myself.0 -
I don't ever remember my (3) boys having one. If they did, it was only once! Game over0
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rml_16 and veganbettie - thank you both for pointing out my phrasing. Miscommunication on my part is a residual issue of abnormal socialization during my childhood... a different story altogether lol! In any case, I appreciate your input
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My mother had a warning system. She would give 1 warning. If after warning my siblings the tantrum continued, we left the store/mall/restaurant. Very often, my mom was alone at the grocery store with the 3 of us and she had to step outside while her full cart waited for her inside. She would sit outside with us and wait. And wait. No toys. No conversation. No reasoning. Just waiting. Eventually, without any more fuel, the tantrumer knocked it off. She would ask if we were ready to go back into the store. She would wait until we said "yes, mom." Then we went back in.
Thanks for this methodology. I like it and will use it
Yes. Good endgame strategy.
I was out with a friend of mine and his 4 year old nephew was in tow. We were mall shopping and sat down to eat at a sandwich joint. The kid had already been indulged with some toys and trinkets while shopping.
Now the kid was ordering his choice of lunch at the restaurant. No hassle. It took about 5 minutes longer than usual to be served lunch. It was busy.
The kid started whining and wouldn't stop.
I can see pouting. I can see complaining a bit. I can even see whining to a point, but the kid just wouldn't stop. He was hungry, I know. We all were. But when the whining turned into a tantrum once the plate was put in front of the kid because there were chopped onions on the side next to the hot dog, my friend abruptly removed the hot dog from the kids hand as he was about to bite into it, returned it to the plate, gave the plate to the waitress and asked for the check.
He paid and we left.
The kid was flabbergasted. He didn't utter a word. He said nothing on the ride home. And, according to my friend, he never pulled the brat card on uncle again. I've always respected my friend so much, since then, for the way he handled that.
Wonderful. That is a great way to handle it. There is no reason to let a kid pitch a tantrum, especially in public. They must learn that annoying behavior means they will NOT get what they want.0 -
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.
Just saw this was going on. I might add that while her original post raised my hackles a bit, she is genuinely trying to be helpful, and now we are friends, so that's all fine and dandy. Also, where did midwestern kid hater go?
Nope, I still return to this every once in awhile to see if there are any other comments about me. I don't know about feeding pigeons, but I'm still feeding trolls (as you can see).
Believe it or not, I was just at the grocery store the other day and there was a kid that kept bugging me. The kid was there with her grandma, who knows me and somehow thinks we are friends or something (we used to work together, and she started to like me probably because I tried to be helpful... it was work and not personal) so she tried to stop and talk to me. Her grand-daughter picked up on the idea that I was a "friend" and started to bother me immediately (seriously, in less than 3 seconds upon first contact. I only gave very brief responses as I continued moving in a different direction.
Later, she came up behind me in the checkout line, and I just ignored both of them even as the girl came up and tried to pull on my arm. I didn't look at her, I didn't talk to her, I just tried to pretend I didn't know they were even there. That made the girl try even harder to engage me... she was literally trying to swing from my arm at one point (though she wouldn't know it, this is also the same arm connected to the shoulder that has had surgery after 12 dislocations).
What did I do? I just ignored it. Though I really should have been stern with both of them. Why?! Because even though I do not like unruly kids (and things like that make me like them less), I actually do try to be civil. But ignoring the kid's behavior not only did not help, it actually caused the behavior to escalate.0 -
It was the "I have this knowledge that the rest of you don't -- but it's not your fault!" that bugged me.
I don't know what you're so worried about. You sounded polite, generous and reasonably pleasant to me, despite the provocative spirit of this thread. I'm not a parent but I can spot a sanctimommy a mile away and you don't seem to be one. :flowerforyou:I feel like I came off all wrong in my posts... I need to work on my communication skills. My kids aren't perfect (neither am I, for sure!), they fight with each other and can be just as "bratty" as any other kid at times. I apologize to anyone who thought I was implying I'm a better parent than you.
Also that what she said about her kids wasn't entirely true and it came across as if your kids have tantrums, you're not parenting right.
But I appreciate the apology and I'm sorry I was harsh. I just wish more people would get that you can be the most perfect parent on the planet and still have kids who act out.
Just saw this was going on. I might add that while her original post raised my hackles a bit, she is genuinely trying to be helpful, and now we are friends, so that's all fine and dandy. Also, where did midwestern kid hater go?
Nope, I still return to this every once in awhile to see if there are any other comments about me. I don't know about feeding pigeons, but I'm still feeding trolls (as you can see).
Believe it or not, I was just at the grocery store the other day and there was a kid that kept bugging me. The kid was there with her grandma, who knows me and somehow thinks we are friends or something (we used to work together, and she started to like me probably because I tried to be helpful... it was work and not personal) so she tried to stop and talk to me. Her grand-daughter picked up on the idea that I was a "friend" and started to bother me immediately (seriously, in less than 3 seconds upon first contact. I only gave very brief responses as I continued moving in a different direction.
Later, she came up behind me in the checkout line, and I just ignored both of them even as the girl came up and tried to pull on my arm. I didn't look at her, I didn't talk to her, I just tried to pretend I didn't know they were even there. That made the girl try even harder to engage me... she was literally trying to swing from my arm at one point (though she wouldn't know it, this is also the same arm connected to the shoulder that has had surgery after 12 dislocations).
What did I do? I just ignored it. Though I really should have been stern with both of them. Why?! Because even though I do not like unruly kids (and things like that make me like them less), I actually do try to be civil. But ignoring the kid's behavior not only did not help, it actually caused the behavior to escalate.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you said the kid saw you as a friend because you were a former co-worker of Grandma?
Was the kid just being friendly toward you, child style?
To each his own, and I mean it. But I actually like friendly, funny kids and enjoy interacting with kids of that sort. It would hurt me to think of rejecting authentic harmless friendliness coming from anyone, especially a kid. Ouch!
(ETA: I was not a friendly or interactive kid myself. I was painfully shy and would avoid interaction with adults, even to the point of going off and hiding from them. I will say that I have fond memories of the few adults who made a special effort to bring me out of it, knowing they'd get nothing except maybe a blush and a ducked head. A few told me cute jokes that were funny to me, complimented my little outfit without being overbearing about it, or would bring me over a cookie from the table knowing I was too shy to go up and get it myself. I'll always remember those very kind adults who went above and beyond and didn't just ignore the shy introvert kid!)
The only thing that bugs me about kids is the brattiness factor, which is actually absent in a lot of kids. Some are very okay.
The only thing that bugs me about parents is the complicity and/or encouragement of the brattiness. Which is sometimes absent in parents. Some are okay. That and when parents assail me with constant stories of the offspring who I never met and will probably never meet. And when I have to stare at a constant stream of tiresome photographs and make the appropriate sound effects.
But maybe you are someone who really doesn't like kids period, under any circumstances. And like I said, to each his own. I won't flame you for it.
I generally do not approach other adults in public unless there is a reason to do so. As a kid, I was not particularly social with other kids either. In this case, the grandma approached me in the store because she knew me and the kid followed her lead. So it would prefer if they would both have just left me alone, but kids go beyond wanting to just chit-chat (which would even be alright if I had time or interest in the topic). This kid was trying to be clingy immediately. After our first brief conversation, as I started to walk away, the kid started to follow me before grandma told her to come back. That doesn't even make sense to me... I didn't even acknowledge she was there, but was having a very short conversation with the grandma. How does she think I want her to follow me around?
That isn't to say I don't interact with other adults... Example: Maybe I'm out on a trail and will actually be the one to start a conversation, and will engage in pleasantries until I eventually get to the point (which may be that I want to know what trail conditions, wildlife hazards, etc. are ahead). I'm sure most everyone does this - is anyone friendly just for the sake of being friendly, or is there not some other motive? It doesn't have to be something they even can define now... it could be trying to be friendly with neighbors for just in case a property line issue comes up or something.
You are basically correct - I do not like kids. Then the question comes back to: How can I get these kids to stop bothering me in the grocery store (restaurant, etc.), though? The answer is that I can't; the parent/grandma/whatever must get their kid to stop bothering me. That person might try harder if they know I don't like kids... but this woman even knew that - she kept trying to set me up with her daughter (the mom of this one), and I made it clear that I don't like kids, so that was not going to happen.0 -
I think you did exactly waht you should have. You did NOT give in and give her what she was crying over (good job, Mom!), and you got her out of there as quickly as you could. Most people completely understand toddler meltdowns - don't worry about her having them in public, they're normal. Distraction IS a great thing (Darkguardian - super point), but even when they're young doesn't always work the way we want it to. If you keep NOT giving in, you guys will get past this stage. :flowerforyou:
I agree. Leaving the situation without giving her what she wants and consistently doing so will cause her tantrum stage to last as short a time as possible. Make sure her other caregivers (babysitter, grandparents, etc.) are handling it in the same way you do. Consistency is key for improving unwanted behaviors. When we were home, my mother would completely ignore my sisters and let them cry and shout until they stopped. When we were i public, our shopping trip would be cut short and she would ignore them. She'd buckle them into their carseat without getting frustrated and act like it was any other calm moment then drive home. Their tantrum phases did not last long.0 -
How does she think I want her to follow me around?
Kids, cats and dogs will pick up on when someone doesn't like them and do their best to be as obnoxious as possible toward that person. Every time.
Maybe you should seek counseling. Really, aside from your extreme dislike of children that seems to go beyond reason, you seem to have a lot of animosity toward humans in general. That's a lot of bitterness to hold onto.0 -
Boo yah! My kids were flawless during our trip to Great Clips today. Beforehand I provided clear instructions on my expectations that they sit and look at books if their cuts went faster than mine. I brought three of their favorite books. We typically get ice cream after and they look forward to that.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!0 -
How does she think I want her to follow me around?
Kids, cats and dogs will pick up on when someone doesn't like them and do their best to be as obnoxious as possible toward that person. Every time.
Maybe you should seek counseling. Really, aside from your extreme dislike of children that seems to go beyond reason, you seem to have a lot of animosity toward humans in general. That's a lot of bitterness to hold onto.
Not everyone likes everything. Would you advise someone who doesn't like snakes to seek counseling? This really is no different, except that most people do not bring snakes out to where other people will have to experience their snakes.
I disagree that I have "animosity towards humans in general." Of course, I don't expect that you could know either way from my posts regardless - there just isn't enough to know me very well.0 -
It's not that you don't like children. It's the way you've expressed yourself toward human beings in general.How does she think I want her to follow me around?
Kids, cats and dogs will pick up on when someone doesn't like them and do their best to be as obnoxious as possible toward that person. Every time.
Maybe you should seek counseling. Really, aside from your extreme dislike of children that seems to go beyond reason, you seem to have a lot of animosity toward humans in general. That's a lot of bitterness to hold onto.
Not everyone likes everything. Would you advise someone who doesn't like snakes to seek counseling? This really is no different, except that most people do not bring snakes out to where other people will have to experience their snakes.
I disagree that I have "animosity towards humans in general." Of course, I don't expect that you could know either way from my posts regardless - there just isn't enough to know me very well.
I mean, a woman you used to work with had THE NERVE to try to say hello to you when she saw you in public. THE NERVE.
And while I think she certainly should have stopped her granddaughter from hanging all over a person like that, and I get the annoyance, you seem to feel like children shouldn't even be allowed to interact with adults who are not their parents or caregivers. Bottom line is, like them or not, they are human beings and part of our society and you have to learn to at least tolerate their presence in certain situations. And it's NORMAL to stop and say hello to someone you know when you run into that person in public, whether it's an acquaintance or a close friend or family member. This is how people behave.0 -
I have no kids of my own, but my mom had a two-point tantrum dispeller.
1. Crazy eye. This was the look before the storm. I could choose to stop here.
2. The "speaking without moving teeth" thing all moms can do-and the words uttered by every southern mom, "I am giving you to the count of three before I give you something to cry about."0 -
agreed. where i am from it would be considered rude if you saw someone you know and didnt at least give a smile and a little hello
It's not that you don't like children. It's the way you've expressed yourself toward human beings in general.How does she think I want her to follow me around?
Kids, cats and dogs will pick up on when someone doesn't like them and do their best to be as obnoxious as possible toward that person. Every time.
Maybe you should seek counseling. Really, aside from your extreme dislike of children that seems to go beyond reason, you seem to have a lot of animosity toward humans in general. That's a lot of bitterness to hold onto.
Not everyone likes everything. Would you advise someone who doesn't like snakes to seek counseling? This really is no different, except that most people do not bring snakes out to where other people will have to experience their snakes.
I disagree that I have "animosity towards humans in general." Of course, I don't expect that you could know either way from my posts regardless - there just isn't enough to know me very well.
I mean, a woman you used to work with had THE NERVE to try to say hello to you when she saw you in public. THE NERVE.
And while I think she certainly should have stopped her granddaughter from hanging all over a person like that, and I get the annoyance, you seem to feel like children shouldn't even be allowed to interact with adults who are not their parents or caregivers. Bottom line is, like them or not, they are human beings and part of our society and you have to learn to at least tolerate their presence in certain situations. And it's NORMAL to stop and say hello to someone you know when you run into that person in public, whether it's an acquaintance or a close friend or family member. This is how people behave.0 -
I never threw tantrums because when I was growing up I always had a discussion about action vs reaction. Got my tiny noodle noodling. Try that.0
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agreed. where i am from it would be considered rude if you saw someone you know and didnt at least give a smile and a little hello
It's not that you don't like children. It's the way you've expressed yourself toward human beings in general.How does she think I want her to follow me around?
Kids, cats and dogs will pick up on when someone doesn't like them and do their best to be as obnoxious as possible toward that person. Every time.
Maybe you should seek counseling. Really, aside from your extreme dislike of children that seems to go beyond reason, you seem to have a lot of animosity toward humans in general. That's a lot of bitterness to hold onto.
Not everyone likes everything. Would you advise someone who doesn't like snakes to seek counseling? This really is no different, except that most people do not bring snakes out to where other people will have to experience their snakes.
I disagree that I have "animosity towards humans in general." Of course, I don't expect that you could know either way from my posts regardless - there just isn't enough to know me very well.
I mean, a woman you used to work with had THE NERVE to try to say hello to you when she saw you in public. THE NERVE.
And while I think she certainly should have stopped her granddaughter from hanging all over a person like that, and I get the annoyance, you seem to feel like children shouldn't even be allowed to interact with adults who are not their parents or caregivers. Bottom line is, like them or not, they are human beings and part of our society and you have to learn to at least tolerate their presence in certain situations. And it's NORMAL to stop and say hello to someone you know when you run into that person in public, whether it's an acquaintance or a close friend or family member. This is how people behave.
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear on this: The grandma did say hi, and I did say hi back, but that was not the extent of our interaction. She went on to want to know all kinds of information about what's happening with this company I work at (and she doesn't anymore), and I was trying to move towards a different direction in the store. It isn't saying hi that was the issue... she wanted to have a much longer conversation, and then her granddaughter wanted to follow me.0 -
Here we go again...
It's pretty obvious that midwesterner has a massive contempt for the human race. I'm pretty sure we aren't going to change his mind.0
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