GMOs, arsenic, toxins

alereck
alereck Posts: 343 Member
I have friends who act like I should be in jail because I do not feed my kids 100% organic. Apparently I’m slowly killing them with GMOs :explode:


Saw this on my Google+ feed = http://www.goldsgym.com/article/which-internet-food-rumors-are-true/
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    Lol, they can moan all they want. I've eaten McDonald's since 1972 at least once a week on average (minus my contest preps in the 80's). Currently I should be dead if I listened to all the yahoo's who claim it's poison.

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  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    Well we're all killing ourselves by breathing in city air then lol.

    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years. That's agriculture for you. I do prefer produce that isn't gigantic though - they do taste better when they are smaller. But other than that, I do not specifically buy organic. I just buy whatever looks good.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Yeah, let's not eat the arsenic. :-)
    I hope the find something else to do instead of bothering you.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,341 Member
    Ermahgerd, GMO!!

    It's not like our parents grew up in cots painted with lead based paint or anything, right? :wink:
  • weightliftingdiva
    weightliftingdiva Posts: 522 Member
    I'm much more worried about the environmental consequences of GMOS and pesticides then I am about any consequence they have on my body.
  • Meerataila
    Meerataila Posts: 1,885 Member
    Not everyone can afford organic. I sure can't unless I see it on sale. But those who can should under the better safe than sorry rule.
  • CrunchyDad
    CrunchyDad Posts: 66 Member
    While there isn't really any evidence that GMOs are hazardous, we also can't be 100% sure of their safety. Between those uncertainties and their effect on the environment, I try to buy organic produce where I can.

    I think in the bigger picture, it's easy to see that the ways our food have changed over the last decades in general is not good for our health. Whether that's a result of the GMOs, additives, artificial flavors etc. is hard to say, but I'm of the "better safe than sorry" mindset currently.

    Definitely not putting down anyone who has a different opinion on the matter, I think everyone should do some research and decide for themselves.
  • toughmudderMN
    toughmudderMN Posts: 129 Member
    I prefer GMOs.
  • CrunchyDad
    CrunchyDad Posts: 66 Member
    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years

    True, but not nearly to the extent that we have in the last fifty. Never before recent history have we modified plant dna so that it can withstand poisonous chemicals so we can spray the crap all over them and then ingest it ourselves. Also now making plants that produce their own toxins to ward off pests, can't wash off a toxin that's in the plant, but anyway...
    Not everyone can afford organic.

    Is gardening an option for you? Even with just a 3-4 month growing season here, we get tons of vegetables from the garden for next to nothing, and it's the only way to control what's put into them. Definitely makes up for having to spend a little extra buying produce in the winter months. Just a suggestion.
  • toughmudderMN
    toughmudderMN Posts: 129 Member
    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years

    True, but not nearly to the extent that we have in the last fifty. Never before recent history have we modified plant dna so that it can withstand poisonous chemicals so we can spray the crap all over them and then ingest it ourselves. Also now making plants that produce their own toxins to ward off pests, can't wash off a toxin that's in the plant, but anyway...
    Not everyone can afford organic.

    Is gardening an option for you? Even with just a 3-4 month growing season here, we get tons of vegetables from the garden for next to nothing, and it's the only way to control what's put into them. Definitely makes up for having to spend a little extra buying produce in the winter months. Just a suggestion.

    People cry because food is expensive. Then we invent a way to significantly improve production and everyone cries....
  • CrunchyDad
    CrunchyDad Posts: 66 Member
    And yet, food is still expensive... hmmm.
  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    That's it, I'm going paleo.
  • CrunchyDad
    CrunchyDad Posts: 66 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    You actually can... it's called growing your own food. :)
  • toughmudderMN
    toughmudderMN Posts: 129 Member
    Right now corn is the same price that it was in 1996 on a nominal basis. (CZ14 is at 3.5675 right now) If we were to adjust that for inflation it would be 1.5 times higher at around 5.40. ......So the cost of food isn't coming from the costs of the grains.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years

    True, but not nearly to the extent that we have in the last fifty. Never before recent history have we modified plant dna so that it can withstand poisonous chemicals so we can spray the crap all over them and then ingest it ourselves. Also now making plants that produce their own toxins to ward off pests, can't wash off a toxin that's in the plant, but anyway...

    True, but welcome to evolution. we have advanced and evolved to be able to do it a greater rate now than ever before.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
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  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    I'm pro-GMO mostly for economical reasons. Oh, and I work with a passel of toxicologists that keep fear-mongering at bay. :happy:
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  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    That's it, I'm going paleo.

    But you got to go hard core. Teepee in yard, using two stones together to make fire for cooking. None of this space age electricity crap
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years

    True, but not nearly to the extent that we have in the last fifty. Never before recent history have we modified plant dna so that it can withstand poisonous chemicals so we can spray the crap all over them and then ingest it ourselves. Also now making plants that produce their own toxins to ward off pests, can't wash off a toxin that's in the plant, but anyway...
    Not everyone can afford organic.

    Is gardening an option for you? Even with just a 3-4 month growing season here, we get tons of vegetables from the garden for next to nothing, and it's the only way to control what's put into them. Definitely makes up for having to spend a little extra buying produce in the winter months. Just a suggestion.

    Toxic to insects, bacteria, viruses, other plants, or even other animals is not necessarily toxic to humans. Fortunately.

    I've not yet seen any toxicity trials that would cause me to get my knickers in a twist over the amount of Roundup (actually, Roundup breakdown products) that make it to the consumer.
  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    You actually can... it's called growing your own food. :)

    You would defile the sanctity of a pure plant by consuming it? Nonsense. You stand out there like a beautiful sunflower

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  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    That's it, I'm going paleo.

    But you got to go hard core. Teepee in yard, using two stones together to make fire for cooking. None of this space age electricity crap

    Isn't a teepee kinda space age for paleo? Relatively speaking, I mean.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Also, we've been modifying food for THOUSANDS of years

    True, but not nearly to the extent that we have in the last fifty. Never before recent history have we modified plant dna so that it can withstand poisonous chemicals so we can spray the crap all over them and then ingest it ourselves. Also now making plants that produce their own toxins to ward off pests, can't wash off a toxin that's in the plant, but anyway...
    Not everyone can afford organic.

    Is gardening an option for you? Even with just a 3-4 month growing season here, we get tons of vegetables from the garden for next to nothing, and it's the only way to control what's put into them. Definitely makes up for having to spend a little extra buying produce in the winter months. Just a suggestion.

    Toxic to insects, bacteria, viruses, other plants, or even other animals is not necessarily toxic to humans. Fortunately.

    I've not yet seen any toxicity trials that would cause me to get my knickers in a twist over the amount of Roundup (actually, Roundup breakdown products) that make it to the consumer.

    Yeah, save your breath. There aren't any.
  • BombshellPhoenix
    BombshellPhoenix Posts: 1,693 Member
    Maybe we should be like plants and learn how to live off of rain water and sunlight. Problem solved

    That's it, I'm going paleo.

    But you got to go hard core. Teepee in yard, using two stones together to make fire for cooking. None of this space age electricity crap

    Isn't a teepee kinda space age for paleo? Relatively speaking, I mean.

    Depends on what it's made of, I suppose. If you buy one from ****'s, you're doing it wrong. ;P
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    While there isn't really any evidence that GMOs are hazardous, we also can't be 100% sure of their safety. Between those uncertainties and their effect on the environment, I try to buy organic produce where I can.

    I think in the bigger picture, it's easy to see that the ways our food have changed over the last decades in general is not good for our health. Whether that's a result of the GMOs, additives, artificial flavors etc. is hard to say, but I'm of the "better safe than sorry" mindset currently.

    Definitely not putting down anyone who has a different opinion on the matter, I think everyone should do some research and decide for themselves.

    What evidence is there that organic food won't kill you?

    There is uncertainty in everything in life. EVERYTHING!
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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    Never understood why food with fewer chemicals, and less processing is more expensive.

    That in no way indicates a scam to me.

    I'll have my salad spliced with a side of fish dna please. (It leaves more money for frills.)
  • toughmudderMN
    toughmudderMN Posts: 129 Member
    Fun fact:

    2) Most of your non-GMO foods are only around 95% non-GMO.


    Source: I am a grain export trader and I trade both types.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    There's a study on cucumbers and zucchini that shows that the pesticide chemicals that are on them are natural substances that the plants produce to ward off vermin and critters. There are quite a few vegetables that do this, but especially cucumbers and zucchini. So you're always going to ingest something "toxic". Thank goodness for kidneys and livers.

    I'd link the study, but my toxicologist pal took the day off and I can't find it. :tongue:
  • stephanieluvspb
    stephanieluvspb Posts: 997 Member
    I have no problem growing some veggies in my back yard, I have no problem reading labels on food I but, but I refuse to spend my life in a bubble. I eat fast food, I sometimes spend time outside in the sun without sun screen on, I listen to my radio to loud, I drink caffeine and eat sugar. I'm not going to miss out on living life, sorry