Why you SHOULDN'T count calories

srslybritt

Freelee is the chick that called Jenna Marbles fat, isn't she? Pic below from July 2013, about when that happened... she's a nutter and hardly a good person to use as any sort of reference.

Cliffslosinit

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

Bless your heart sweetie....

martinel2099

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

But.

Can't I have the coke and the smoothie?

I like your thinking.

BombshellPhoenix

Freelee is the chick that called Jenna Marbles fat, isn't she? Pic below from July 2013, about when that happened... she's a nutter and hardly a good person to use as any sort of reference.

I'd tap that.

nomorebingesgirl2014

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HeidiCooksSupper

Counting calories isn't necessary to lose weight. Before the internet and all these fancy apps, calorie counting was much more difficult and much less common, but people still went on diets and lost weight.

That doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T count calories.

No, we used reference books. Yes, having the web is MUCH easier but there were lots of inexpensive paperbacks listing calorie counts -- among other numbers like protein, etc. Paper journals were used. Then we moved on to CDs and spread sheets.

Paper is a perfectly function adequate information carrying medium we ancients used before you youngsters invented the interwebs.

And, yes, I was using networked computers before your mother was born.

yo_andi

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

What did Diet Coke ever do to you?!

Annie_01

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

When you have time...you might be interested in this article...

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-sodas-and-weight-gain-not-so-fast

I thought...it was fairly objective.

WinoGelato

These debates are so maddening. What I don't understand is why people have such a hard time grasping the basic laws of science. Barring certain medical conditions, for the vast majority of people, it truly does come down to Calories In/Calories Out. Whether or not you choose to count and track those calories (in and out) or whether you choose to subscribe to some particular diet, food restriction, or "clean eating" plan, ultimately what will make you lose weight is eating less calories than you burn. Just because you don't count or track the numbers, doesn't mean you are defying basic scientific principles. You are still eating less calories than you burn, you just don't know what the numbers are that you are working with.

Many people on the planet don't know how (or have forgotten how) to calculate the gravitational force on an object, F=MA, where Acceleration is a standard 9.8 meters/second squared (on Earth). Just because you don't plug the numbers in the equation, doesn't mean gravity is invalidated....

sarajenivieve

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

debrag12

People on here make it seem like calorie counting is the only way to lose weight ever. Everyone is different.

You can eat at a deficit and lose weight without counting a single calorie. Weight loss is not a one size fits all type of thing.

How do you know you are in a deficit then?

Alluminati

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

Hey, do you smoke cigarettes?

TiffieLand

Maybe one shouldn't count like 1-2-3 calories since it is kind of an obsession but one should keep track that you are eating 1500 calories vs 2000 calories. It really makes a big difference over time. I ate healthy all my life like 90% of the time but I still gained weight to chubby. Although that is probably due to the fact, I do lose weight from time to time in order to not let myself get to overweight or obese. If I didn't, I would probably be at the overweight range now. It doesn't matter what go in to lose or gain weight but How much?

Cliffslosinit

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

Please back this statement up with peer reviewed evidence.
Links...

BombshellPhoenix

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

What did Diet Coke ever do to you?!

Killed my parents....

But it's okay.









Now I'm Batman

silver_arrow3

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're probably one of those people who also believes that lifting will make women bulky, that pilates lengthens your muscles, that "toning" is a thing, and carbs are the debil. Maybe even throw in a following of something like paleo or vegan. Am I correct?

Alluminati

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

Link?

Also, how does something with 0 calories worse for weight loss than something with 150 calories?

LOL just read the first posts in OP (sara2b120) history. She smokes. Sanctimonious much?

asdowe13

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

Still not seeing any proof on why you "think" a diet soda is bad for me or anyone!

BusyRaeNOTBusty

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

Diet soda is FULL of di-hydrogen monoxide!!!

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Lilly_the_Hillbilly

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

I used to work for a flavor company (they exist) and have LITERALLY (in every correct sense of that word) made these soft drinks from scratch in a lab. I still drink them. I know (well knew) exactly what goes in them.

I think - and I'm willing to be wrong here so correct me folks if I am- that the health issue with soft drinks is a psychological one and not so much a "dangerous chemicals" one. People who often switch from normal soft drinks to imbibing diet soft drinks will tell themselves that they've been "good" with drinking diet and now can "reward" themselves with a high calorie treat that undoes all the calorie cutting they did by drinking a low calorie soft drink.

But the composition of soft drinks that are diet or low calorie- not so much the villain here.

Amestris

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

Diet soda is FULL of di-hydrogen monoxide!!!

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

You mean to tell me diet soda is full of water?!?!? Shut the front door!

J72FIT

Well, I came across a picture on Tumblr and it said "Why you shouldn't count calories"
I can't find it anymore on tumblr or elsewhere on the interwebs!
But, it basically said that you shouldn't count calories because you can eat a chocolate bar or 'bad' processed stuff for 250 calories, but it's better to just eat 'healthy' without counting calories, and then you can have a 350 cal smoothie with fresh fruits and 'good' stuff.
I mean, come on.. If you eat too many calories you're going to gain, if you eat fewer you'll lose, it's that simple.
What do you think about this?
It kind of makes me think of Freelee the banana girl from Youtube too. She eats 2000+ calories every day mainly from fruit and she eats 'raw till 4', and yet she's super skinny and fit looking.
Yes, I would eat fruit all day if i could because I really LOVE nice and ripe juicy fruit! But I don't because we all need other things than carbs and sugars too...
Opinions? I'm interested !

Probably written by a person lucky enough not to have to count calories. IMO, calorie and macro tracking is for people who either want to lose fat, gain muscle or both. Some people (and I think we all have them in our lives) can seem to eat whatever they want and not gain a pound. Others can not. Life is not fair that way...

sarajenivieve

i dont have a file of my research on hand at all times to help out people who get but hurt when you say something as common sense as 'putting harmful chemicals in your body is harmful' lmao. So if this concept upsets you then you are certainly free to ignore it if your interested then do your own research as well iv certainly done mine, 0cal chemicals lose to healthy calories everytime. No one can force you to be healthy but no need to get all but hurt

libbydoodle11

In my ideal world I would only be eating clean foods and never have to portion anything out. In real life I don't stick to clean foods 24/7 365. I try to employ this behavior most of the time but it just doesn't happen. I have to count calories.

jfboomer

i semi count calories but you are right a 0cal diet coke is worse than a 150cal smoothie people get way to into the calorie counting and ignore over all nutrition its a tricky balence sometimes

Worse in what way?

For your over all health as well as weightloss

Sigh, ok, how is it worse for your health, assuming you are meeting your nutrient goals?

because there are hazardous chemicals in it lol is this a real question? i highly suggest you do some research on 0 cal chemical storms that people put into there bodies, i should add it depends where you live as well as some ingrediants are banned in other countries so for example if your in europe then it was be as bad as if your in america

Diet soda is FULL of di-hydrogen monoxide!!!

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

I got as far as this: "Research conducted by award-winning U.S. scientist Nathan Zohner concluded that roughly 86 percent of the population supports a ban on dihydrogen monoxide." and couldn't stop laughing.:laugh:

Water be gone kill you!

Alluminati

i dont have a file of my research on hand at all times to help out people who get but hurt when you say something as common sense as 'putting harmful chemicals in your body is harmful' lmao. So if this concept upsets you then you are certainly free to ignore it if your interested then do your own research as well iv certainly done mine, 0cal chemicals lose to healthy calories everytime. No one can force you to be healthy but no need to get all but hurt

SInce your so concerned about chemicals, does that count when you inhale smoke? Or does it only count for calories?

sarajenivieve

lol people are very defensive of their diet sodas lmao no ones taking them away just pointing out how unhealthy they are you are still free to drink them calm your hormones

I used to work for a flavor company (they exist) and have LITERALLY (in every correct sense of that word) made these soft drinks from scratch in a lab. I still drink them. I know (well knew) exactly what goes in them.

I think - and I'm willing to be wrong here so correct me folks if I am- that the health issue with soft drinks is a psychological one and not so much a "dangerous chemicals" one. People who often switch from normal soft drinks to imbibing diet soft drinks will tell themselves that they've been "good" with drinking diet and now can "reward" themselves with a high calorie treat that undoes all the calorie cutting they did by drinking a low calorie soft drink.

But the composition of soft drinks that are diet or low calorie- not so much the villain here.

That is a big one for a lot of people but the chemicals used in america like asperteme have also been linked to nuerological diseases as well. Im not saying im not guilty of drinking them from time to time but ill also admit and am aware that its not good for me.

asdowe13

i dont have a file of my research on hand at all times to help out people who get but hurt when you say something as common sense as 'putting harmful chemicals in your body is harmful' lmao. So if this concept upsets you then you are certainly free to ignore it if your interested then do your own research as well iv certainly done mine, 0cal chemicals lose to healthy calories everytime. No one can force you to be healthy but no need to get all but hurt

The Derp is strong with this one

Return_of_the_Big_Mac

i dont have a file of my research on hand at all times to help out people who get but hurt when you say something as common sense as 'putting harmful chemicals in your body is harmful' lmao. So if this concept upsets you then you are certainly free to ignore it if your interested then do your own research as well iv certainly done mine, 0cal chemicals lose to healthy calories everytime. No one can force you to be healthy but no need to get all but hurt

You're making a claim and it appears that the issue should be obvious. So, let's start with a few questions:

1. Which harmful chemicals are in diet soda?
2. Is the harm corroborated by peer-reviewed research?
3. Are there documented examples of large numbers of people who suffered because they drank diet soda?

If you want to have a discussion and want to be taken seriously, don't make claims you're not ready to back up with fact and if you cannot do that, you ought to slow your roll and listen to others. Ask questions rather than get defensive and make accusations or try to call people out as if they're being butthurt when its really the other way around.

lemurcat12

when you say something as common sense as 'putting harmful chemicals in your body is harmful' lmao.

But you haven't said that. You've said that diet soda is harmful. When asked why, you've said that harmful chemicals are harmful.

Perhaps you think we are all too stupid to notice the obvious missing piece--that diet soda=harmful chemicals--but I think more highly of the people here, so assume we are not.

There's a nice pinned thread on aspartame if you'd like to jump in there as a good place to start.