Should People Be Allowed To Smoke In Public ?
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I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
You could have an allergic reaction to the perfume someone is wearing or have an asthma attack.. both could be potentially fatal - just saying0 -
Outside = Ok. You can avoid the smoke if it bothers you.
Inside = up to business owner. Or house owner.
America = Freedom.
Smokers know it is harmful. But it is also a bad habit to break. I don't think it is right to take away any rights of people.
Why can't we all just get along. This is not helping my down mood today... let's all just hug it out. :ohwell:0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
You could have an allergic reaction to the perfume someone is wearing or have an asthma attack.. both could be potentially fatal - just saying
There is a woman at work who I'm sure bathe in perfume. She feckin' reeks of cheap and nasty stuff. Still not as bad as cig smoke though.0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
Show me the research to back this up.... I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke.
You can't be serious. I can fill you up with pages of COPD research, if you'd like but it's really unnecessary. Seriously, it's the THIRD LARGEST KILLER in the US right now, and will move to second within a few years. And is almost exclusively caused by cigarette smoke. And you want to try to claim perfume could be as bad? C'mon, now.0 -
Outside = Ok. You can avoid the smoke if it bothers you.
Inside = up to business owner. Or house owner.
America = Freedom.
Smokers know it is harmful. But it is also a bad habit to break. I don't think it is right to take away any rights of people.
Why can't we all just get along. This is not helping my down mood today... let's all just hug it out. :ohwell:
Smokers smoking next to non-smokers are taking away their rights, automatically.0 -
I think it should be banned unless its a very well venilated out door area. Back a few years ago you could smoke in bars in my town. I could never go out because I have asthma and just a few minutes in the bar would aggravate me and I'd have to leave. Being wheezy isn't a good time. But then they banned smoking in public buildings. Its actually nice going to bars here now, until you see someone get stabbed in the neck, then it gets super awkward.0
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Not in areas where people are forced to walk by them as the normal flow of foot traffic in an area or in a place where there are a lot of children. I had some people smoking at the bottom of a stair area that met up with the walkway for a doc at the lake. You were forced to walk though them (2 smokers on each side) to get back to the boats. And this was a restaurant. It was disgusting. I felt so bad for the young mom who was forced to walk through with her baby. It was so rude.0
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I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
Show me the research to back this up.... I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke.
You can't be serious. I can fill you up with pages of COPD research, if you'd like but it's really unnecessary. Seriously, it's the THIRD LARGEST KILLER in the US right now, and will move to second within a few years. And is almost exclusively caused by cigarette smoke. And you want to try to claim perfume could be as bad? C'mon, now.
Perfumes are not regulated as to the contests what-so-ever. There is no FDA regulations not guidelines... There are countless carcinogens in most perfumes.
Come here... I'll blow a puff of smoke in your face as you in-hale. Then I will spray your face with the same amount of perfume as you inhale... Then tell me which is worse0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
Show me the research to back this up.... I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke.
You can't be serious. I can fill you up with pages of COPD research, if you'd like but it's really unnecessary. Seriously, it's the THIRD LARGEST KILLER in the US right now, and will move to second within a few years. And is almost exclusively caused by cigarette smoke. And you want to try to claim perfume could be as bad? C'mon, now.
Perfumes are not regulated as to the contests what-so-ever. There is no FDA regulations not guidelines... There are countless carcinogens in most perfumes.
Come here... I'll blow a puff of smoke in your face as you in-hale. Then I will spray your face with the same amount of perfume as you inhale... Then tell me which is worse
Preferential reaction is not the same as long term effect. Because science. I'm also allergic to most perfumes. And I have cancer. So I'll thank you to do neither.0 -
The way I see it...
You have the right to smoke, but I have the right to not have to smoke. And when someone lights up next too me...my choice has been taken away. And the healthiest option has to win out.
why does your option "have to win" SO if i am there enjoying my cigar in a park on a bench and you come and sit near me, I have to move?
If you had the table to yourself go for it. If you lit it up while i was sitting there, I would be very annoyed. You risk your own health...not others.0 -
Outside = Ok. You can avoid the smoke if it bothers you.
Inside = up to business owner. Or house owner.
America = Freedom.
Smokers know it is harmful. But it is also a bad habit to break. I don't think it is right to take away any rights of people.
Why can't we all just get along. This is not helping my down mood today... let's all just hug it out. :ohwell:
Smokers smoking next to non-smokers are taking away their rights, automatically.
Are they forcing you to stay there and inhale second hand smoke? Unless they have tied you down, you still have the right to move away, or even ask the smoker politely if they can put it out or move. As a former smoker, if someone had politely asked me to move, I would have. I was a considerate smoker though, and some are not. I tried to make my smoking as little of an inconvenience as possible. Point is, if you make the choice to stand near a smoker, whether they were there first or not, are you not still making the choice? If you eat at a restaurant that allows smoking on the patio, are you not making the choice to eat there?0 -
Yes but in designated areas, same in bars and restaurants. I always sat in the smoking area to avoid people with their obnoxious kids so now we try to sit near the bar so they can't have the kids around. I'm sick of all this anti smoking crap, just another politically correct tool to crush personal freedom.
I agree! i get so angry on how the government is trying to control everything we do, telling us we can't smoke, eat this or that, and now they can see our private emails and texts???? when is it ever going to end? it is so like "1984" anymore its scarey! and now they are in some states trying to ban it in your home, like sitting in your back yard,,,,are you kidding me,0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
Show me the research to back this up.... I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke.
You can't be serious. I can fill you up with pages of COPD research, if you'd like but it's really unnecessary. Seriously, it's the THIRD LARGEST KILLER in the US right now, and will move to second within a few years. And is almost exclusively caused by cigarette smoke. And you want to try to claim perfume could be as bad? C'mon, now.
Perfumes are not regulated as to the contests what-so-ever. There is no FDA regulations not guidelines... There are countless carcinogens in most perfumes.
Come here... I'll blow a puff of smoke in your face as you in-hale. Then I will spray your face with the same amount of perfume as you inhale... Then tell me which is worse
Preferential reaction is not the same as long term effect. Because science. I'm also allergic to most perfumes. And I have cancer. So I'll thank you to do neither.
Schedlue it for 5 days a week then.... I bet that perfume is still not going to help you out0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
it should be!!!0 -
Sorry this has gotten so long... I just go through pulling pieces from the rest of the thread that I want to reply to.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!! This, exactly.Smoking is the one habit that affects not only the person doing it but also the people around that person, and not by their choice. You can choose to drink beer, or eat red meat, or not to exerciser, but you cannot choose to not inhale if their is cigarette smoke in your air because smoking is allowed in the public area you inhabit.
Do you read what you write?I would smoke in public even if it weren't allowed. I am considerate
Setting aside your "all the other nonsense", which could cover anything you disagree with...Shut down Tobacco, Fire Arms, Alcohol, Fast Food, and all the other nonsense
2 of the things have no redeeming social value (tobacco, alcohol),
fast food at least has the potential for being healthy if done right,
and firearms are a civil right, used many more times per day to save an innocent citizen from a crime than they are used by criminals to commit crimes (or even by police to stop crimes).
Glad to see this!!!also designated smoke free as within 20 feet of any operating door to keep the smokers from huddling in the doorways in cold or inclement whether
When the druggies block the doorways, trying to avoid the consequences of their behaviours, they're blocking the good healthy innocent people from entering the building... making the innocent people suffer in the weather even though they've done nothing wrong.
Like this:At work people complain about where we smoke because they walk through it to get into the building... ah go to the other 5 doors
I'm sorry you live in an abusive household.if it was that bad i would be dead by now because i have been breathing in my parents smoke since i was born
Once you get out on your own you'll realize how much better you feel breathing clean air & not stressing your body with those carcinogins & CO.
False.Refined Sugars are just as deadly
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23815799
"nothing in the biochemistry suggests that sugar is a toxin."
Broken window theory. Camel's nose.There are much bigger fish to fry than smoking
However you put it, if we stop the problem when it's small, we won't have such a hard time dealing with a big problem down the road.
How about in bed? That will solve the problem pretty quickly.they should only be allowed to smoke under their bed
Since they haven't been tested, they're considered to be worse. Nobody knows yet what chemicals they're putting out. There have only been a couple studies, and they were alarming in the number, type, and amount of harmful chemicals the "e-cigs" put out.Do E-cigs/Vapes get lumped in with tobacco cigs
Other than the last, none of those can affect you or your health directly. Being an *kitten* in public, smoking around innocent people, does directly affect their health.Don't be fat in public, Don't be blonde in public. Don't be a Republican in public. Don't wear tattoos in public. Don't be an a**hole in public.
Except that they haven't legalized it. It's still illegal, and nothing a state can do can change that.With States slowly legalizing marijuana, I doubt they are going to ban cigarettes
The pro-drug people have to get the federal law changed, then get the FDA to approve marijuana, then state laws can OK it.
So round up all your scientific studies & get your evidence to the FDA while you lobby to get marijuana made legal.
Sorry to hear your dad is unwilling to make good choices.it's their perogative to smokee, and they are willing to pay the ridiculous costs financially and physically
But I doubt he's paying the financial costs, only the physical ones (having his body cut open, losing parts, etc.).
YES!!!I've been accused of "fake coughing" before but I guarantee you it is 100% real. Smoke is an asthma trigger of mine (and a lot of asthmatics). Just last week I nearly had an asthma attack from walking past one person smoking outside a building. I try my best to stay away from smokers, as I know I am super sensitive, but I should be able to enjoy a walk outside without an attack.
Yes.if they are going to smell bad in the workplace, I'm going to talk to their supervisor, same as I would if they didn't wear deodorant
So have a word with the supervisor about her inappropriate bodily odor.There is a woman at work who I'm sure bathe in perfume. She feckin' reeks of cheap and nasty stuff
It's just the same as if she didn't bathe, just as offensive.
Anything I do which similarly affects your health... which would be exactly nothing.If you'd like to ban smoking please list what habits of yours I am allowed to ban
Before WI went smoke-free indoors, I can remember being seated in the "nonsmoking" area of several restaurants which was right next to the smoking area, with maybe the distance of a table in between, no wall, no door, etc. And in some we actually had to walk through the drug zone to get to our table in the "smoke-free" area.A restaurant with a smoke and non smoke area is a joke cause the smoke get's everywhere, unless it's a seperate room that can be closed from outside
I was in a restaurant one evening where nobody was smoking, enjoying dinner, when 2 guys came in for coffee & smoked. I had to leave & told the staff member why I was suddenly having them box my dinner, cancel the dessert, etc. At least they apologized, but I don't think it was until the state went smoke-free that that restaurant did.
One of my favorite restaurants in Columbus, OH (Talita's) used to have the larger part of its dining room (which is all an open area) for smoking, then they realized the line was too long, so they made the smaller area (less than half the size of the larger area) smoking, then there was still a line, so they went smoke-free and are still packed.
Yes. When I was younger I sometimes went to a dance bar that had a 50's theme, and I'd leave my robe on the back porch (screened) so that when I came home I could dump my stinky clothes there for a couple days to air out, then I'd shower thoroughly (several shampoos, several soapings) to get the worst of the stench out. Wasn't completely gone, but at least I could go to bed without stinking up the sheets. Shower again the next morning too.I'm just glad that I can now come home from the pub without smelling like an ashtray and needing a shower before getting into bed!
I wouldn't put up with it now. If there's smoking, I don't go there. I value my health. Then, I was young, stupid, & invincible.
On the street, yes you are forcing innocent people to inhale your effluvium.out on the street, then it was my right, and I still feel this way for other smokers. While I was hurting myself by doing so, I wasn't forcing anyone else to smoke, or forcing them to inhale my second hand smoke
Show us the research to back your opinion.I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke
Because there's plenty of research in general circulation showing that tobacco smoke is harmful to people.
You can start researching here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed0 -
Yes but in designated areas, same in bars and restaurants. I always sat in the smoking area to avoid people with their obnoxious kids so now we try to sit near the bar so they can't have the kids around. I'm sick of all this anti smoking crap, just another politically correct tool to crush personal freedom.
I agree! i get so angry on how the government is trying to control everything we do, telling us we can't smoke, eat this or that, and now they can see our private emails and texts???? when is it ever going to end? it is so like "1984" anymore its scarey! and now they are in some states trying to ban it in your home, like sitting in your back yard,,,,are you kidding me,
Smoking around your children = risking their health without their having a choice. if you don't go outside or you smoke in the car, it should be illegal. yep. and America has never been "free". We've always had laws and a government telling us what to do.0 -
I hate smoking. I hate the smell, the taste, the affects. So I'm going to say no.
does that mean I can ban certain perfumes I dont like? i like this open trade
perfumes don't kill people.
Show me the research to back this up.... I would argue a lung full of perfume is MUCH worse on your body then a lung full of smoke.
You can't be serious. I can fill you up with pages of COPD research, if you'd like but it's really unnecessary. Seriously, it's the THIRD LARGEST KILLER in the US right now, and will move to second within a few years. And is almost exclusively caused by cigarette smoke. And you want to try to claim perfume could be as bad? C'mon, now.
Please show me your stats , since you like throwing them out there... From the CDC you will not get any that are not from 2011, it takes them over 3 years to get any stats done.... Cancer is the # 2 cause of deaths, in which Lung Cancer made up less than 1/3 of cancer deaths with 156,953. Now about 28,000 of those were to Non smokers in which approximately 20,000 were from Radon and between 3-4,000 possibly from second hand smoke contact.... So there are the most recent stats from 2011 from the CDC... Refined sugar and obesity are far greater issues than smoking and if you want to talk about the second hand smoke stats and put it in perspective over over 3,330 deaths occurred in the same year 2011 by distracted drivers, with the #1 distraction cell phones and Texting, and those numbers are going up... So if your argument is that it kills any more than other things we come across in everyday life YOU ARE WRONG! ... I am not am not a Smoker, do not like it , and have dated one woman who was and broke up because I could not stand kissing her with smoker breath, but I am not about people right to choose being restricted by those who do not partake or agree with whatever the activity, including walking away from things they do not like.
here is the last link to the CDC, and it is pretty easy to look up the rest , so knock yourself out .... Did not see any thing on perfume killing but was not looking for that as this was to show how people exaggerate when talking stats...
http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/distracted_driving/0 -
I don't think it should be illegal, but I do think people could stand to be more considerate when partaking in a habit such as smoking.
So you feel the people you intentionally try to make feel awful, your words, should be more considerate towards you?
When you say more considerate are you saying that they should shower between smoking just in case you are knocked up and we might meet in an elevator?0 -
I don't think it should be illegal, but I do think people could stand to be more considerate when partaking in a habit such as smoking.
So you feel the people you intentionally try to make feel awful, your words, should be more considerate towards you?
I admit I should have been more specific and said "I try to make it known to smokers that it makes them smell bad and makes my stomach lurch."
I put on deodorant for myself and to be considerate towards others. I think yes, in that respect, they should be considerate towards me.0 -
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/campaign/tips/diseases/copd.html
from the article: COPD—the number 3 killer in the nation—is almost always caused by smoking.
However, as many as one out of six people with COPD never smoked. Avoiding secondhand smoke is also critical.0
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