"Paleo diet" - 70% fat???
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Just my 2 cents
I am no longer a Primal Blue Printer, but going with the stricter approach of Paleo.............I feel better with the eating format.
Another website I belong to recommended the following ratios: 65-70% fat, 25% protein, and 5-10% carbs. That is what I aim for.
If anyone looks at MY posts, it has never been said by me that is what the Paleo diet is like it is set in stone. I have repeatedly said that is WHAT I DO for ME and works FOR ME to feel good and healthy, with lots of energy and also able to lose weight easily!!
Which site is that? Just curious I love reading about stuff.
I have a few friends that are REALLY strict paleo... hearing about it from them is where I first hear about it. I've always been the type to ease into things... I'd say I'm fairly strict now, and having great results, and as I adjust more will probably get more strict as time goes on.
My thing with diet/weight loss/weight maintenance/being healthy is that it has to be sustainable for me or I fall off the bandwagon hard. The key to sustainability for me is allowing "treats" here in there... I think it's a psychological thing for me. Like on paleo my big treat is sushi. Although, I can't even remember the last time I treated myself to sushi. I think that's another funny thing about stuff... the longer you're on it, the stricter you can get over time and not even realize you're not missing some of the stuff you used to eat....
I sent you a PM with the other site.0 -
Proper diet and exercise should be followed by everyone.
Indeed. The only point is, that for a sizable number of people, this means reducing carbohydrates for the rest of their lives if they don't want to end up as Type 2 diabetics with all the risks that it and metabolic syndrome entails. If you can achieve your goals with a carbohydrate intake of 250grams/day, then that's wonderful. But my body, and that of others doesn't work that way (anymore) sadly. So why not leave it at that? Point is: for many people the standard diet is a hindrance to health, not a help.0 -
Proper diet and exercise should be followed by everyone.
Indeed. The only point is, that for a sizable number of people, this means reducing carbohydrates for the rest of their lives if they don't want to end up as Type 2 diabetics with all the risks that it and metabolic syndrome entails. If you can achieve your goals with a carbohydrate intake of 250grams/day, then that's wonderful. But my body, and that of others doesn't work that way (anymore) sadly. So why not leave it at that? Point is: for many people the standard diet is a hindrance to health, not a help.
You are so right, there are more people in this boat than just you and me. Most people just don't want to face the facts of truly having to change their eating and lifestyle, so they go with the crutch of "everything in moderation".
The bigger problem is most people are only interested in losing weight, not health.
Most people that reduce sugar, starches, carbs and go with a cleaner eating plan for the majority of the time are more focused on health. At least that is what I SEE..........0 -
I don’t believe I said the food pyramid “caused” Americans to get fat. What I was intimating is the food pyramid is not helping, and people that point to it as “the way to go” and that it’s so much more healthy than a diet based on cutting out grains, sugars, vegetable oils, and processed foods, are IMO fooling themselves.
Now to be clear, I do think the food pyramid is at least partially to blame by putting so much importance on grains. I don’t have the statistics to back this up, but I would bet the consumption of whole grain bread, pasta, chips, crackers, and what have you, has gone up 10 fold over the last 20 years. The FDA would have you believe that is a good thing. But is it? Where is the evidence, lower heart disease? Nope. Lower rates of diabetes? Nope. Lower rates of cancer? Nope. Thinner children, adults? Nope. Where is the evidence that grains, even whole grains should be the base of our diet pyramid?
http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/307.short
http://www.ajcn.org/content/75/5/848.short
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=608100
Copy and past links is so cool, you put a lot of thought into that. At least copy and past a couple lines that you think are important.
I've seen those studies,,,,,,,,, guess what they still don't know if the grains are helping or some other factor.
And I ask again where is the evidence? You have to concede that whole grain consumption is up by at least double over 20 years ago, has any health risk gone down in that time?
There is never a definitive answer when it comes to diet. If you are looking for an article that says, "Yes, we have 100% proof that grains are healthy/unhealthy."
You'll never find it. I'm not sure the point you are trying to convey.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/agr_gra_whe_con_percap-grains-wheat-consumption-per-capita
We are not at the top of the list for grain consumption
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQxQEwAg&url=http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:CgabIdDcsSMJ:www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf+grain+consumption+per+year&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShktcMoOpDUFMKwo6T6rn3lDozsDR7gNlJLTTtu84BRooDvRx6Fcw1l-ShLvBz5vnQynNy34i5vZa_nO3XrabIVbpWFO_6b5AYadCwH_2jZcNFzU_KErGml1wC_qb48AQ1Fznoh&sig=AHIEtbTOZN9xUOs7QJk4wUfhU1n-QxiO4A&rct=j&q=grain consumption per year&ei=diWrTcTLEOXViALP-6jvDA&usg=AFQjCNGDYqxKGGzi3BY4ePJUkfdabyyRiA&cad=rja
If you wanted your evidence that grain consumption has gone up, well then there you go. But so have a lot of things. You can not blame one food group and say that is the SOLE cause of people become fat. If that is what you are trying to say, then I'd love to see the proof.
If you exercise like you are supposed to. Walk, play with kids, run, hike, or something like that, You burn those carbs anyways. Just people are lazy in America.
Here is a question but not ment to be a offensive. How many of you were overweight because you exercised and had a proper diet for your lifestyle?0 -
I don’t believe I said the food pyramid “caused” Americans to get fat. What I was intimating is the food pyramid is not helping, and people that point to it as “the way to go” and that it’s so much more healthy than a diet based on cutting out grains, sugars, vegetable oils, and processed foods, are IMO fooling themselves.
Now to be clear, I do think the food pyramid is at least partially to blame by putting so much importance on grains. I don’t have the statistics to back this up, but I would bet the consumption of whole grain bread, pasta, chips, crackers, and what have you, has gone up 10 fold over the last 20 years. The FDA would have you believe that is a good thing. But is it? Where is the evidence, lower heart disease? Nope. Lower rates of diabetes? Nope. Lower rates of cancer? Nope. Thinner children, adults? Nope. Where is the evidence that grains, even whole grains should be the base of our diet pyramid?
http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/307.short
http://www.ajcn.org/content/75/5/848.short
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=608100
Copy and past links is so cool, you put a lot of thought into that. At least copy and past a couple lines that you think are important.
I've seen those studies,,,,,,,,, guess what they still don't know if the grains are helping or some other factor.
And I ask again where is the evidence? You have to concede that whole grain consumption is up by at least double over 20 years ago, has any health risk gone down in that time?
There is never a definitive answer when it comes to diet. If you are looking for an article that says, "Yes, we have 100% proof that grains are healthy/unhealthy."
You'll never find it. I'm not sure the point you are trying to convey.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/agr_gra_whe_con_percap-grains-wheat-consumption-per-capita
We are not at the top of the list for grain consumption
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCoQxQEwAg&url=http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:CgabIdDcsSMJ:www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf+grain+consumption+per+year&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShktcMoOpDUFMKwo6T6rn3lDozsDR7gNlJLTTtu84BRooDvRx6Fcw1l-ShLvBz5vnQynNy34i5vZa_nO3XrabIVbpWFO_6b5AYadCwH_2jZcNFzU_KErGml1wC_qb48AQ1Fznoh&sig=AHIEtbTOZN9xUOs7QJk4wUfhU1n-QxiO4A&rct=j&q=grain consumption per year&ei=diWrTcTLEOXViALP-6jvDA&usg=AFQjCNGDYqxKGGzi3BY4ePJUkfdabyyRiA&cad=rja
If you wanted your evidence that grain consumption has gone up, well then there you go. But so have a lot of things. You can not blame one food group and say that is the SOLE cause of people become fat. If that is what you are trying to say, then I'd love to see the proof.
If you exercise like you are supposed to. Walk, play with kids, run, hike, or something like that, You burn those carbs anyways. Just people are lazy in America.
Here is a question but not ment to be a offensive. How many of you were overweight because you exercised and had a proper diet for your lifestyle?
I can honestly say due to the "Standard American Diet" going the low calorie, low fat approach and working out got me fatter and fatter. The SAD has also caused inflammatory response to those foods and a major contributing factor to Type 2 Diabetes, PCOS, symptoms of arthritis and bi-polar symptoms.
I have always been an active person.
These things didn't go away until I gut out the grains, beans and legumes and most of the dairy.
I actually grew up eating the way I am back to eating now. Farm raised meats, eating the fat, home grown fruits and veggies (or came from a local orchard), nuts and drinking water. I was never over weight as a child.0 -
I can honestly say due to the "Standard American Diet" going the low calorie, low fat approach and working out got me fatter and fatter. The SAD has also caused inflammatory response to those foods and a major contributing factor to Type 2 Diabetes, PCOS, symptoms of arthritis and bi-polar symptoms.
I have always been an active person.
These things didn't go away until I gut out the grains, beans and legumes and most of the dairy.
I actually grew up eating the way I am back to eating now. Farm raised meats, eating the fat, home grown fruits and veggies (or came from a local orchard), nuts and drinking water. I was never over weight as a child.
Now by active, I mean you burned at least 500 calories by walking or things of that nature. I feel that 90% of americans just sit around and expect diet alone to save them.
Everytime I go to Europe or the middle east, everybody is so much more active. Not very many people depend on a car to get around. I remember when I was Germany I had to walk about 1.5 miles to get to a bar to meet up with my friends. Sure we could of called a taxi but they were not lazy like that. When I was in Bahrain, I had to walk about 1 mile to get to work. Even here, if i'm not running, I still try to be active.
There is a farmers market about 1 mile from where I live and a huge hill I got to get across. Unless it's raining, I still walk there. Pretty much anything else is an excuse.
That's what i'm talking about when I say active.0 -
I hate to burst your bubble, but in Europe the obesity rate is rising too and we have more obese children too now as well. We may be slightly more active, but I believe your European experiences are largely anecdotal.
http://www.heartstats.org.uk/topic.asp?id=47410 -
Yes because they are starting adopting our ways. I'm not saying they are perfect but when I go there, I never see as many obese people as I do here. Children are becoming more obese because parents let them sit around the TV.
Seriously, you think being active has nothing to do with health?0 -
Yes because they are starting adopting our ways.
Seriously, you think being active has nothing to do with health?
It has, but its effect on weight are very limited: diet is much more important in that respect. "our ways" are a diet high in added sugar and hfcs, I presume. Fat consumption used to be higher in Europe, even in the 1950s.
http://www.inra.fr/esr/publications/cahiers/pdf/petrovic.pdf
link to a very interesting paper comparing food patterns across european countries.0 -
I don’t believe I said the food pyramid “caused” Americans to get fat. What I was intimating is the food pyramid is not helping, and people that point to it as “the way to go” and that it’s so much more healthy than a diet based on cutting out grains, sugars, vegetable oils, and processed foods, are IMO fooling themselves.
Now to be clear, I do think the food pyramid is at least partially to blame by putting so much importance on grains. I don’t have the statistics to back this up, but I would bet the consumption of whole grain bread, pasta, chips, crackers, and what have you, has gone up 10 fold over the last 20 years. The FDA would have you believe that is a good thing. But is it? Where is the evidence, lower heart disease? Nope. Lower rates of diabetes? Nope. Lower rates of cancer? Nope. Thinner children, adults? Nope. Where is the evidence that grains, even whole grains should be the base of our diet pyramid?
http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/307.short
http://www.ajcn.org/content/75/5/848.short
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=608100
Copy and past links is so cool, you put a lot of thought into that. At least copy and past a couple lines that you think are important.
I've seen those studies,,,,,,,,, guess what they still don't know if the grains are helping or some other factor.
And I ask again where is the evidence?
The evidence is the same as yours. Thousand of success stories. More to the point there is no evidence that it doesn't work, just as there's no evidence that there's any thing really wrong with Paleo. They both work. Find what's right for you.
As for your point of order - I think he meant it as "anything you put in your mouth" and not just in the restricted calorie sense. Proper diet and exercise should be followed by everyone. Those trying to lose weight, those trying to maintain, and those trying to gain. And a way of living where what you put in your mouth is "based," not necessarily follows to the absolute letter, on the food groups does work. Again there are personal variations, but the idea is to eat in moderation from all the food groups for optimal health.
Yes whole grain consumption is up. So is fast food consumption, total calorie consumption, processed food consumption, eating out, and we get less exercise than ever before. Why do whole grains, with doctors and studies saying that they're good for you, get the blame over all those other things, with no doctors or studies saying anything good about them?You have to concede that whole grain consumption is up by at least double over 20 years ago, has any health risk gone down in that time?
I don't understand why you're so defensive. Nobody's saying Paleo sucks don't do it. But you seem to be saying that people that don't follow Paleo are deluding themselves and attacking others for their choices. Maybe it's just an internet thing since it's so hard to communicate a tone via message board posts, but the tone that I'm getting from you is rather angry.
And one last thing for the record - You're right you never did say that the food pyramid caused people to gain weight. I inferred it. Now I personally don't think it was a radically totally off base inference based on the things you'd written and continue to write, but you didn't "say" it, and I stand corrected.
Don't understand why we're defensive ? Well I copied a few post from this thread, I assume you didn't read all of them, so here you go.yes that sounds fishy....lol..I wouldnt do that. It doesnt sound safe for your body.
My biggest problem with this diet is that the basic logic of it is flawed.
I wrote out a long frustrated rant, but then decided it was unnecessary to berate anybody for their illogical opinions.
Some people are just too lazy to make the effort to do it right.
The primal blueprint has no scientific backing.
The Primitive humans weren't "healthy" at all
The debate isn't to convince the people who believe the quacks, as they are usually too far gone down the anti-scientific path. The debate is to convince the people who might listen to the unsafe information given, such as a diet consisting of 70% fat.
I have seen people on the paleo diet. I always see them dragging around. Sure, they have a burst of energy when they workout but after, I see them just slouching around.
I still think it's just another unhealthy fad diet.0 -
Yes, It is an interesting paper. Higher percentage of fats, yes. Higher level of activity, yes.
However, I was always active as a kid. I played baseball, football, basketball, and even golf. I did this because my parents made me. However, I still ate pizza, sugary foods, and mountains of candy. My friends who were fat, were never active, always sat around and did nothing. All my friends and peers who were active, I never saw a problem.
http://www.annals.org/content/133/2/92.1.short
It just shows, exercise is a factor in all of this. Diet alone can not save the obesity problem.0 -
I don’t believe I said the food pyramid “caused” Americans to get fat. What I was intimating is the food pyramid is not helping, and people that point to it as “the way to go” and that it’s so much more healthy than a diet based on cutting out grains, sugars, vegetable oils, and processed foods, are IMO fooling themselves.
Now to be clear, I do think the food pyramid is at least partially to blame by putting so much importance on grains. I don’t have the statistics to back this up, but I would bet the consumption of whole grain bread, pasta, chips, crackers, and what have you, has gone up 10 fold over the last 20 years. The FDA would have you believe that is a good thing. But is it? Where is the evidence, lower heart disease? Nope. Lower rates of diabetes? Nope. Lower rates of cancer? Nope. Thinner children, adults? Nope. Where is the evidence that grains, even whole grains should be the base of our diet pyramid?
http://www.ajcn.org/content/70/3/307.short
http://www.ajcn.org/content/75/5/848.short
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=608100
Copy and past links is so cool, you put a lot of thought into that. At least copy and past a couple lines that you think are important.
I've seen those studies,,,,,,,,, guess what they still don't know if the grains are helping or some other factor.
And I ask again where is the evidence?
The evidence is the same as yours. Thousand of success stories. More to the point there is no evidence that it doesn't work, just as there's no evidence that there's any thing really wrong with Paleo. They both work. Find what's right for you.
As for your point of order - I think he meant it as "anything you put in your mouth" and not just in the restricted calorie sense. Proper diet and exercise should be followed by everyone. Those trying to lose weight, those trying to maintain, and those trying to gain. And a way of living where what you put in your mouth is "based," not necessarily follows to the absolute letter, on the food groups does work. Again there are personal variations, but the idea is to eat in moderation from all the food groups for optimal health.
Yes whole grain consumption is up. So is fast food consumption, total calorie consumption, processed food consumption, eating out, and we get less exercise than ever before. Why do whole grains, with doctors and studies saying that they're good for you, get the blame over all those other things, with no doctors or studies saying anything good about them?You have to concede that whole grain consumption is up by at least double over 20 years ago, has any health risk gone down in that time?
I don't understand why you're so defensive. Nobody's saying Paleo sucks don't do it. But you seem to be saying that people that don't follow Paleo are deluding themselves and attacking others for their choices. Maybe it's just an internet thing since it's so hard to communicate a tone via message board posts, but the tone that I'm getting from you is rather angry.
And one last thing for the record - You're right you never did say that the food pyramid caused people to gain weight. I inferred it. Now I personally don't think it was a radically totally off base inference based on the things you'd written and continue to write, but you didn't "say" it, and I stand corrected.
Don't understand why we're defensive ? Well I copied a few post from this thread, I assume you didn't read all of them, so here you go.yes that sounds fishy....lol..I wouldnt do that. It doesnt sound safe for your body.
My biggest problem with this diet is that the basic logic of it is flawed.
I wrote out a long frustrated rant, but then decided it was unnecessary to berate anybody for their illogical opinions.
Some people are just too lazy to make the effort to do it right.
The primal blueprint has no scientific backing.
The Primitive humans weren't "healthy" at all
The debate isn't to convince the people who believe the quacks, as they are usually too far gone down the anti-scientific path. The debate is to convince the people who might listen to the unsafe information given, such as a diet consisting of 70% fat.
I have seen people on the paleo diet. I always see them dragging around. Sure, they have a burst of energy when they workout but after, I see them just slouching around.
I still think it's just another unhealthy fad diet.
So... You're entitled to your opinion but I'm not? Interesting.0 -
I can honestly say due to the "Standard American Diet" going the low calorie, low fat approach and working out got me fatter and fatter. The SAD has also caused inflammatory response to those foods and a major contributing factor to Type 2 Diabetes, PCOS, symptoms of arthritis and bi-polar symptoms.
I have always been an active person.
These things didn't go away until I gut out the grains, beans and legumes and most of the dairy.
I actually grew up eating the way I am back to eating now. Farm raised meats, eating the fat, home grown fruits and veggies (or came from a local orchard), nuts and drinking water. I was never over weight as a child.
Now by active, I mean you burned at least 500 calories by walking or things of that nature. I feel that 90% of americans just sit around and expect diet alone to save them.
Everytime I go to Europe or the middle east, everybody is so much more active. Not very many people depend on a car to get around. I remember when I was Germany I had to walk about 1.5 miles to get to a bar to meet up with my friends. Sure we could of called a taxi but they were not lazy like that. When I was in Bahrain, I had to walk about 1 mile to get to work. Even here, if i'm not running, I still try to be active.
There is a farmers market about 1 mile from where I live and a huge hill I got to get across. Unless it's raining, I still walk there. Pretty much anything else is an excuse.
That's what i'm talking about when I say active.
Yes, I was biking, working out at the gym and doing weight lifting. I used to be in the Army as well so I have always been very active..............
I used to be a weight lifter in the Army.0 -
And you have continued to be active throughout your life?
Weight lifting is not a very cardio intensive thing. I do it and I know I'm going to gain pounds and fat.0 -
Yes, It is an interesting paper. Higher percentage of fats, yes. Higher level of activity, yes.
However, I was always active as a kid. I played baseball, football, basketball, and even golf. I did this because my parents made me. However, I still ate pizza, sugary foods, and mountains of candy. My friends who were fat, were never active, always sat around and did nothing. All my friends and peers who were active, I never saw a problem.
http://www.annals.org/content/133/2/92.1.short
It just shows, exercise is a factor in all of this. Diet alone can not save the obesity problem.
Yes, a factor but nowhere near the influence diet is. Actually, across the board, "we" did start exercising more, just like "we" reduced our intake of fats. Yet "we" have also become more obese, and obese earlier in our life.
I believe this is caused by dietary changes first and foremost: more calories available surely, but also a greater intake of simple sugars, primarily of fructose. Obesity and insulin resistance go hand in hand in my opinion.0 -
Yes, It is an interesting paper. Higher percentage of fats, yes. Higher level of activity, yes.
However, I was always active as a kid. I played baseball, football, basketball, and even golf. I did this because my parents made me. However, I still ate pizza, sugary foods, and mountains of candy. My friends who were fat, were never active, always sat around and did nothing. All my friends and peers who were active, I never saw a problem.
http://www.annals.org/content/133/2/92.1.short
It just shows, exercise is a factor in all of this. Diet alone can not save the obesity problem.
Yes, a factor but nowhere near the influence diet is. Actually, across the board, "we" did start exercising more, just like "we" reduced our intake of fats. Yet "we" have also become more obese, and obese earlier in our life.
I believe this is caused by dietary changes first and foremost: more calories available surely, but also a greater intake of simple sugars, primarily of fructose. Obesity and insulin resistance go hand in hand in my opinion.
I completely agree with your last paragraph to a point. However, I don't see the average American becoming more active. At least to a point to where it is beneficial.
But the consumption of simple sugars, yes. I agree this is our biggest fault and one of the reasons we are the way we are. And I've seen plenty of studies of insulin resistance and obesity do go hand in hand.0 -
It is also called the Caveman or hunter gather diet. The idea is that we were healthier before modern agriculture was created to feed larger groups of people.
From what I can tell you are suppose to eat clean. Good fats, lean protein, lots of water, and very few carbs. You aren't suppose to eat anything you couldn't hunt or gather yourself.
My biggest problem with this diet is that the basic logic of it is flawed. Yes in a world where our main objectives for a day was to hunt and gather food of course you needed more fat because you were burning so many calories. And there is no way to know how healthy people where back then.
Personally it sounds like a fad diet to me. Here is a link to the wiki article if you have time to skim it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet
Totally right, this "Diet" is soooo Flawed that it is ridiculous. The life span is sooo much better NOW compared even to 100 years ago. No, how we eat today IS NOT The Best, but it is FAR BETTER than Hunter and Gatherer Times; what was the life span then 20/25 years, Heck, 100 yrs. ago the average life span was 45 years.
There is NO way that the Conditions of living in Pre-Historic times can be reproduced for someone to actually eat like that. Someone sitting at a desk for 10 hours and going to the Gym for 1 even 2 hours PER DAY can not, in NO Way Duplicate the Physical Conditions (walking, running, adrenal rushes from "dodging" predatory animals, NOT eating every day because they could not find food everyday, eating wild vegetation of what was in season...) Some Teacher, Doctor, Lawyer, Accountant, Construction Worker, Banker...Think they can duplicate the way they ate back then and think that their Body will adjust is NUTS! I want to see REAL Statistics on this stuff...OH Yeah, There Is NONE!0 -
Another website I belong to recommended the following ratios: 65-70% fat, 25% protein, and 5-10% carbs. That is what I aim for.
What website is this?0 -
It is also called the Caveman or hunter gather diet. The idea is that we were healthier before modern agriculture was created to feed larger groups of people.
From what I can tell you are suppose to eat clean. Good fats, lean protein, lots of water, and very few carbs. You aren't suppose to eat anything you couldn't hunt or gather yourself.
My biggest problem with this diet is that the basic logic of it is flawed. Yes in a world where our main objectives for a day was to hunt and gather food of course you needed more fat because you were burning so many calories. And there is no way to know how healthy people where back then.
Personally it sounds like a fad diet to me. Here is a link to the wiki article if you have time to skim it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet
Totally right, this "Diet" is soooo Flawed that it is ridiculous. The life span is sooo much better NOW compared even to 100 years ago. No, how we eat today IS NOT The Best, but it is FAR BETTER than Hunter and Gatherer Times; what was the life span then 20/25 years, Heck, 100 yrs. ago the average life span was 45 years.
There is NO way that the Conditions of living in Pre-Historic times can be reproduced for someone to actually eat like that. Someone sitting at a desk for 10 hours and going to the Gym for 1 even 2 hours PER DAY can not, in NO Way Duplicate the Physical Conditions (walking, running, adrenal rushes from "dodging" predatory animals, NOT eating every day because they could not find food everyday, eating wild vegetation of what was in season...) Some Teacher, Doctor, Lawyer, Accountant, Construction Worker, Banker...Think they can duplicate the way they ate back then and think that their Body will adjust is NUTS! I want to see REAL Statistics on this stuff...OH Yeah, There Is NONE!
It is not about duplicating the lifestyle of the prehistoric times............You are taking it and twisting it literally.
It is about living a more natural lifestyle away from all the chemicals and such that exist today. Yes, you can simulate a lot of the things from that time..........
Move slowly (walking)
Lift Heavy Things
Play, Laugh, Love
Sprint sometimes......
Eat natural foods free of chemicals, artificial sweeteners, non-nutritional grains, etc.............0 -
It is also called the Caveman or hunter gather diet. The idea is that we were healthier before modern agriculture was created to feed larger groups of people.
From what I can tell you are suppose to eat clean. Good fats, lean protein, lots of water, and very few carbs. You aren't suppose to eat anything you couldn't hunt or gather yourself.
My biggest problem with this diet is that the basic logic of it is flawed. Yes in a world where our main objectives for a day was to hunt and gather food of course you needed more fat because you were burning so many calories. And there is no way to know how healthy people where back then.
Personally it sounds like a fad diet to me. Here is a link to the wiki article if you have time to skim it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet
Totally right, this "Diet" is soooo Flawed that it is ridiculous. The life span is sooo much better NOW compared even to 100 years ago. No, how we eat today IS NOT The Best, but it is FAR BETTER than Hunter and Gatherer Times; what was the life span then 20/25 years, Heck, 100 yrs. ago the average life span was 45 years.
There is NO way that the Conditions of living in Pre-Historic times can be reproduced for someone to actually eat like that. Someone sitting at a desk for 10 hours and going to the Gym for 1 even 2 hours PER DAY can not, in NO Way Duplicate the Physical Conditions (walking, running, adrenal rushes from "dodging" predatory animals, NOT eating every day because they could not find food everyday, eating wild vegetation of what was in season...) Some Teacher, Doctor, Lawyer, Accountant, Construction Worker, Banker...Think they can duplicate the way they ate back then and think that their Body will adjust is NUTS! I want to see REAL Statistics on this stuff...OH Yeah, There Is NONE!
It is not about duplicating the lifestyle of the prehistoric times............You are taking it and twisting it literally.
It is about living a more natural lifestyle away from all the chemicals and such that exist today. Yes, you can simulate a lot of the things from that time..........
Move slowly (walking)
Lift Heavy Things
Play, Laugh, Love
Sprint sometimes......
Eat natural foods free of chemicals, artificial sweeteners, non-nutritional grains, etc.............
Now see, I can agree with you there. Although I still like stuff with chemicals and the rest of the garbage in it. I've cut out a lot of it over the years but it's pretty hard unless you grow all the stuff yourself.
The diets I feel we should be following is what they were doing about 100 years ago though. A lot less complications then.0
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