Intermittent Fasting Support Group?

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  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Hush: re strength stuff. Well I didn't start out that strong. Takes a lot of hard work! And I'm not quite there yet :tongue:

    I exercise whenever I have time which is usually straight after work at 5:30 on weekdays. As my eating window is 1-9pm that is during eating time. If I workout on the weekend in the morning, then I will take 10g BCAA's to help prevent catabolism.

    P.S 1500 cals in 45 mins last night. BOOM!
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Good lord.

    I want to get stronger. Do you have any tips? (As in, what sort of workouts should I be doing?) I'm pretty strength-stupid, but I'm a Cardio Queen. [:

    I've been working out after work (6am), and my feeding window is 7pm-3am. SO it's after my eating window, but since my last meal is usually a piece of fruit, I feel like it's the perfect timing to utilize the carbs.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Slight tangent but I will post here anyway.

    I do this beginners program since I have started strength training.

    Squat 3 x 10
    Bench press 3 x 8
    Bent row 3 x 8
    Military press 3 x 8
    stiff leg deadlift 3 x 8
    BB curl 3 x 8

    Do this 3 times a week. Progressively add weight.


    If you make sets and reps, add 5lbs (or a bit less for upper body movements). If you fail to make prescribed, sets and reps 3 times in a row, drop the weight 10% and go again.

    The only thing I changed from the above is I do weighted pullups instead of BB curls. All big compound movements, no fluff exercises, no tricep kickbacks or calf raises. Need to build strength with the basic compound lifts first.

    You're workout time is far from ideal there being after your feeding window. Ideally, your largest meal of the day should be after your workout so you are pretty much doing the opposite. I would be trying to wake up a bit earlier and do your gym session before you start work and eating window opens.

    When I do a fasted workout, I take 10g BCAA's before and 10g every 2 hours after to prevent catabolism. All exercise is catabolic, so you need to eat to create an anabolic environment. Hence, me eating 1500 cals after my workout last night :smile:
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Bleh. It's so hard to get my workouts in before, but I guess I'll have to try!

    Does that apply only for strength, or for my mass amounts of cardio, too?
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    even moreso for cardio. Cardio is more catabolic than strength training. Have you ever heard bodybuilders talking about their muscles falling off from running :P Well that is an extreme broscience example but I hope you understand.

    But it does depend on intensity level as well ie. I don't worry about my bike rides to work or anything like that during my fasting time. I ride quick but it's only a short ride. If I were to go for an hour long ride or something, I would definitely be taking BCAA's pre and post workout.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Okay, I feel stupid for asking, but what is a BCAA?
  • holly_v
    holly_v Posts: 292 Member
    i am pretty sure bcaa is a supplement for protecting lean muscle
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Just ordered some BCAAs. [:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Yes, BCAA stands for branch chain amino acid. They are found in whey protein powders (well all the ones I've seen) but I take BCAA's by them self as they are 100% amino acid (100% protein so 40 cals only)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branched-chain_amino_acid
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Yeah, I read all about it, and decided I could probably benefit from them, so I bought some of the capsules.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Quick question:

    Today is my last day of 16/8 before my full day (ends up being 40 hours) fast. Should I eat any differently today? ie: more carbs/protein/fats?
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Anyone?
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    WTF, 40hr fast?
  • pork_belly
    pork_belly Posts: 144
    Thats the max I go for when I do a long fast otherwise day to day its 19/5 for me.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    In order to keep my 16/8 schedule my weekly fast is going to end up being 40 hours.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Personally, I would stick with one method or the other. Do 16/8 every day or do a 24hr one once or twice a week.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    ...really?

    I love my weekly fasts, and I don't want to give them up, but the 16/8 is seriously helping with my self control.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    well when you're combining the two and ending up with 40hr fasts then that definitely isn't LG style and AFAIK not ESE style either. With the fairly low protein intake and lack of resistance training, I wouldn't want to be fasting that long (and doing fasted cardio as well).
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    You make a valid point.

    See, I need you around to check me. :D
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    I agree, 40 hours is kinda long especially if you're gonna work out!

    So my boss is kind of concerned. We're close and talk about almost everything. I've never been a huge daytime eater but never mentioned that to him. But now I mentioned my IF and he's all concerned. It's kinda sweet but I feel like telling him I know what I'm doing! He says as long as I'm healthy and happy with myself.. lol
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    My mom is concerned. But I tell her that I still eat my required calories, and she's happy.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Three days of 16/8 down.

    Decided to continue doing 16/8 daily, instead of making today a total fast. Thanks for the advice!

    Definitely liking it so far.

    How long have you guys been doing it?
  • pork_belly
    pork_belly Posts: 144
    I've been doing 19/5 for six weeks and I can't think of a better way to eat for me. It gives me more resolve in controlling when I eat. It definitely got easier after the first couple weeks. I also throw in 36-40 hour fast when I feel I need the extra effort to hit a weight goal. Mind you I am not trying to build muscle. I do light dumbell work outs to maintain muscle tone and that walking, too.

    When I look at my progress report I can see when I started IF. There is a steeper drop in my rate of weight loss than previous.

    My diet is pretty close to Atkins. I would say its a combination of Atkins and the Tom Ferriss slow carb diet. I get a cheat day but don't find myself taking it much these days.
  • firedragon064
    firedragon064 Posts: 1,082 Member
    I could not do IF this week since I'm surrounded by food all day but I hardly sit still so I think I'm OK.
    I'll hope I won't gain weight.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Three days of 16/8 down.

    Decided to continue doing 16/8 daily, instead of making today a total fast. Thanks for the advice!

    Definitely liking it so far.

    How long have you guys been doing it?

    I think that's a good idea :smile:

    I've been LG style IF'ing for a bit over 6 months now I think. I only had a break for a few weeks after my hip injury when I couldn't really do any exercise.

    Have been able to lose weight when I wanted, gain when I wanted and strength has been increasing the whole time :happy:
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I suppose i should chime in, i've been doing the LG approach for 2 months and got over my plateau and havne't felt better. and it's more convenient for me as well. I have a small meal pre workout since i'm not a morning person and don't really want to get up at 5am to hit the gym before work
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
    Hooray for support. [:

    Chris, did you see that debate that went on on my status? It was like, massive bro-science all the way.
  • Is this group still active??

    I just discovered this and well, it's just what I've been doing as an experiment the last week or so (a little longer)! I've been having really vile digestive problems so I started experimenting leaving a bigger "fast" period for myself.
    Benefits:
    1. No more night stomach issues
    2. WAY more energy during the day, almost a buzzed need to keep working, even on days when I don't have enough sleep
    3. Just feel good, lighter
    4. I've lost 2 pounds this week

    I haven't really restricted anything I like from my diet. I still enjoy cookies/doughnuts/wine etc., just in much smaller doses because I just allow myself to eat for about a four-hour window. I don't see this as a "diet" but rather something I can see myself continue doing. I think the only draw back is people at work thinking I'm weird for knitting during lunch instead of eating!
  • holly_v
    holly_v Posts: 292 Member
    I suppose i should chime in, i've been doing the LG approach for 2 months and got over my plateau and havne't felt better. and it's more convenient for me as well. I have a small meal pre workout since i'm not a morning person and don't really want to get up at 5am to hit the gym before work

    this makes me feel good because i have been on a plateau for 2 months and i started 16:8 this week to try to break through!
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I'm still here :) I'll have a look now Hush

    hehe, just added a response.
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