who are you voting for?
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I think America is asking for problems if McCain is not voted for president.
My husband is military and I am not good at bashing opinions. But read up on the candidates. Pick your priorities and make a smart choice. There is nothing worse than voting for someone because you think it is the "in" choice.
Can I get an AMEN?
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I just hate figuring out who the lesser of two evils is...they did this to us 4 years ago....grr lol:noway:
What do you have against both of them? I see lots of opinions but as far as why??? I'd love to hear someone doing some McCain vs. Obama. Anyone?0 -
I think America is asking for problems if McCain is not voted for president.
My husband is military and I am not good at bashing opinions. But read up on the candidates. Pick your priorities and make a smart choice. There is nothing worse than voting for someone because you think it is the "in" choice.
My hubby is military, too, but we think just the opposite. That's what makes America so great...the right to differing opinions!
Do you and your husband keep up on Obama's views on where he wants the military go go in the next few years? And where is his patriotism? Have you read the information on his "patriotic views." I'm not debating at all, but I seem to not see anyone (here there or otherwise) on people giving me reasons to vote for or against the candidates. Does this make sense?0 -
Personally, I think that as long as there are different views that there should be two presidents or at least the pres and vp be of seperate parties. Washington knew it was a great idea... I have many many many opinions and beliefs but would never force someone to give up their morals or beliefs to take on mine. After hundreds of years, shouldn't there be a way to meet in the middle by now? At least on some issues?0
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You could always start a thread :devil: I'm game! I love debatingI just hate figuring out who the lesser of two evils is...they did this to us 4 years ago....grr lol:noway:
What do you have against both of them? I see lots of opinions but as far as why??? I'd love to hear someone doing some McCain vs. Obama. Anyone?
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As a canadian who won't be voting in your election I'll just throw this out there, no matter who wins it can't get any worse :drinker:
No but it can stay the same... which is almost as bad! :grumble:0 -
Hmm...wonder if that is a "obama" website....idk just if it causes you to vote for someone that you normally wouldn't makes me wonderhttp://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
I like this website. I would probably vote for McCain, but I got matched with Obama.0 -
Do you and your husband keep up on Obama's views on where he wants the military go go in the next few years? And where is his patriotism? Have you read the information on his "patriotic views." I'm not debating at all, but I seem to not see anyone (here there or otherwise) on people giving me reasons to vote for or against the candidates. Does this make sense?
Yes, but with all due respect, I really don't care to go into all that. No matter how friendly we would try to keep it, it would most likely get messy. I was just stating (err...re-stating?) my vote.0 -
hate to admit it but that's exactly what i was thinking when i saw thisI think America is asking for problems if McCain is not voted for president.
My husband is military and I am not good at bashing opinions. But read up on the candidates. Pick your priorities and make a smart choice. There is nothing worse than voting for someone because you think it is the "in" choice.
Can I get an AMEN?
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GO McCain/Palin!! :flowerforyou: (ok so PRETEND it's a pompom)0 -
Hmm...wonder if that is a "obama" website....idk just if it causes you to vote for someone that you normally wouldn't makes me wonderhttp://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
I like this website. I would probably vote for McCain, but I got matched with Obama.
My family did this, and so did a lot of my mom's coworkers...and while I got matched with Obama, my mom and her coworkers all ended up being matched with independent candidates. I think both major party candidates have their good and bad parts...that's why I really can't decide. In the end I will most likely vote because I know it's my civic duty, but there are a few issues that I feel strongly about that would keep me from voting for one candidate or the other.0 -
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I think America is asking for problems if McCain is not voted for president.
My husband is military and I am not good at bashing opinions. But read up on the candidates. Pick your priorities and make a smart choice. There is nothing worse than voting for someone because you think it is the "in" choice.
Princess I so do agree with you! McCain and Palin. Woot! Woot!0 -
You could always start a thread :devil: I'm game! I love debatingI just hate figuring out who the lesser of two evils is...they did this to us 4 years ago....grr lol:noway:
What do you have against both of them? I see lots of opinions but as far as why??? I'd love to hear someone doing some McCain vs. Obama. Anyone?
LOL Ya, I have zero interest in a debate right now...But I do love hearing new ideas. I want someone to say...I like this candidate because.... And then actually back it up with something. Ya know? I never hear that. I just hear people say one of the other without back up.
I had someone tell me they wanted to vote for Hillary because she was "a woman." Hokay, although a strange reason IMHO to vote for someone...At least she had a reason. She didn't say, "I'm voting for Hillary because the other guy stinks." LOL0 -
They only choice OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! da man Zoe0
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You could always start a thread :devil: I'm game! I love debatingI just hate figuring out who the lesser of two evils is...they did this to us 4 years ago....grr lol:noway:
What do you have against both of them? I see lots of opinions but as far as why??? I'd love to hear someone doing some McCain vs. Obama. Anyone?
LOL Ya, I have zero interest in a debate right now...But I do love hearing new ideas. I want someone to say...I like this candidate because.... And then actually back it up with something. Ya know? I never hear that. I just hear people say one of the other without back up.
I had someone tell me they wanted to vote for Hillary because she was "a woman." Hokay, although a strange reason IMHO to vote for someone...At least she had a reason. She didn't say, "I'm voting for Hillary because the other guy stinks." LOL
*mumbling* Ok... I leeb nows. 0 -
Hmm...wonder if that is a "obama" website....idk just if it causes you to vote for someone that you normally wouldn't makes me wonderhttp://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
I like this website. I would probably vote for McCain, but I got matched with Obama.
My family did this, and so did a lot of my mom's coworkers...and while I got matched with Obama, my mom and her coworkers all ended up being matched with independent candidates. I think both major party candidates have their good and bad parts...that's why I really can't decide. In the end I will most likely vote because I know it's my civic duty, but there are a few issues that I feel strongly about that would keep me from voting for one candidate or the other.
I think it is smart to make sure you know what is most important to you and then decide your vote.
For my family, as I said, we are military. I have friends who are POW's and so the views of a candidate coming from a military background are important to me. That is why McCain is my choice. I voted for Bush, I voted for Clinton, so I am not just "party specific."
Find your needs and vote with your heart...If that doesn't work...vote McCain... <~~~ Hokay, shameless plug. j/k0 -
Stephen Colbert!
Oh, um... well technically I CAN vote -- just have to do one of those distance vote thingys since I'm an American citizen living in Canada now. I used the candidate calculator and my best choice was Ralph Nader, followed closely by Obama. Interesting.
Dang! There are those eyes again! What's the question?
LOL
This makes me think of that fantastic movie Clash of the Titans from the 80s (ok, so I was 2 when it came out, but it's still one of my guilty pleasures/favourites) where Harry Hamlin/Perseus is trying to avoid the gaze of Medusa, whose eyes could turn you to stone!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zBtAO4dYL98 <--- that clip (thank you, YouTube)0 -
I think America is asking for problems if McCain is not voted for president.
My husband is military and I am not good at bashing opinions. But read up on the candidates. Pick your priorities and make a smart choice. There is nothing worse than voting for someone because you think it is the "in" choice.
Can I get an AMEN?
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First I want to say "Yeah MFPers!" We're on page four of a political thread and there has been no nastiness! :flowerforyou:
I'm voting McCain. I don't agree with all of his ideas, but he more closely represents my values. It doesn't really matter which party is a part of. I want to vote for some one to represent ME. Out of the choices, McCain is the one.0 -
I was leaning mostly towards Obama, but McCain's pick for VP had me RUN towards Obama.
I would say more, but in the interest of keeping this friendly, I'll hold my tongue.0 -
I just hate figuring out who the lesser of two evils is...they did this to us 4 years ago....grr lol:noway:
What do you have against both of them? I see lots of opinions but as far as why??? I'd love to hear someone doing some McCain vs. Obama. Anyone?
Princess
I'm doing a LOT of research. I go through all their voting records - not what they say they will do. I've noticed a lot of misinformation out there. I'm doing a spreadsheet and comparing. I am also comparing when they change their stance on an issue, and why. I also have a column on how well I understand the issue and how strongly I feel about it. However, I also have my oral preliminary exam a few days before the election so most of the comparisons will be done at after that point...
I'm not a huge fan of either candidate.
However, I researched McCain before I moved to this state (I'm in his district) and I didn't like his voting record when I checked it out two years ago...I have not yet checked into Obama's voting record so I can't say if I will like it any better. I have not checked into McCain's records since two years ago, perhaps he's changed. I have not decided yet, but hours and days of research and thought will go into it.0 -
Initially I wanted Huckabee, but was going to support McCain. Now with Sarah Palin in the mix, they have my COMPLETE and TOTAL support. I like Sarah because everything I've heard/read about her matches very closely with my own beliefs and values. I could go on and on about every single issue but this forum was simply to list a choice so there's mine.
Honestly, I haven't been this excited about an election since my very first.... I turned 18 in '92 and voted for..... Perot. :blushing:
The important thing is to VOTE.... just don't vote "present" :laugh: sorry couldn't help myself.0 -
I really struggled with who to vote for as neither one of them really impressed me especially Obama. And I felt like if I voted for any other candidate, my vote would pretty much be for naught because to me it's obvious our next president is going to be either McCain or Obama. Since I couldn't bear to not vote and leave my future up to everyone else to vote, I finally decided to go with McCain. He just shares more of my values than Obama does. Then when McCain chose his running mate, I knew I had made the right choice. I'd vote for Sarah Palin for president!0
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Initially I wanted Huckabee, but was going to support McCain. Now with Sarah Palin in the mix, they have my COMPLETE and TOTAL support. I like Sarah because everything I've heard/read about her matches very closely with my own beliefs and values. I could go on and on about every single issue but this forum was simply to list a choice so there's mine. Honestly, I haven't been this excited about an election since my very first.... I turned 18 in '92 and voted for..... Perot. :blushing:
The important thing is to VOTE.... just don't vote "present" :laugh: sorry couldn't help myself.
Awww, she does a mom proud! :bigsmile:0 -
I really care about our impact on the environment and look forward to seeing change and a president I have faith and hope in. I dont see any other option than Obama. It scares the crap out of me that McCain could get elected and I have never felt so strongly about an election. I am so ready for change and for decisions to start being made that stop the problems that have been created. And if we dont pursue alternative energies we are gonna regret it and I feel we owe it to future generations. I want someone who thinks about the future and the whole picture and considers their actions.
I have worked as a therapist with veterns with PTSD and when you do that kind of work, there is no way you can not want a president who explores every option before a war. I hope Obama is that person.0 -
I've felt really good about Obama from the start, I can't really explain it. What he stood for just sang to me. In my relatively unbiased opinion, it's time for a new, fresh face with new, fresh ideas so that our country can have a new, fresh start. I'm very literally afraid to vote McCain because I fear that it will mean furthering the problems of America (the war, gas prices, sources of alternative, job opportunities/economy, etc.), not solving them.
There is what Wikipedia has to say about their stances on various issues: (I chose Wikipedia to avoid bias)
JOHN MCCAIN
" The two political issues that voters have been most concerned about in 2008 are the economy and Iraq.[233] On the economy, McCain says he would make the Bush tax cuts permanent instead of letting them expire, he would eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax so as to assist the middle-class, he would double the personal exemption for dependents, reduce the corporate tax rate, and offer a new research and development tax credit.[234][235] At the same time, he pledges to eliminate pork-barrel spending, freeze nondefense discretionary spending for a year or more, and reduce Medicare growth.[235] McCain is also opposed to high salaries and lucrative severance deals of corporate CEOs.[235][236] Another proposal of the Arizona senator is to build 45 new nuclear reactors by 2030, in order to fight climate change and establish U.S. energy independence.[237]
On Iraq, McCain's goal is that by 2013 most of the servicemen and women will have returned, the Iraq War will have been won, and Iraq will be a functioning democracy, "although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension." McCain expects that by 2013, there will still be violence, but at a much-reduced level, and without American troops in a direct combat role.[238][239] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Political_positions
SARAH PALIN
" Palin has called herself as "pro-life as any candidate can be."[44] She would permit abortion only in cases where the mother's life is in danger,[101] and supports mandatory parental consent for abortions.[102] Palin is a member of Feminists for Life.[103] Palin has been described as supportive of contraception.[44] She backs abstinence-only education and is against "explicit sex-ed programs" in schools.[104][105][106]
Palin supports capital punishment.[107]
Palin opposes same-sex marriage[44] and supported a non-binding referendum for a constitutional amendment to deny state health benefits to same-sex couples.[108]
Palin has said she supports teaching both creationism and evolution in public schools, but not to the extent of adding creation-based alternatives to the required curriculum.[109]
Palin has strongly promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska, including in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).[47] She has opposed federal listing of the polar bear as an endangered species warning that it would adversely affect energy development in Alaska. [66] Palin does not believe that global warming is human-caused.[50]
Palin, a long-time member of the National Rifle Association, strongly supports its interpretation of the Second Amendment as protecting individual rights to bear arms, including handguns. She also supports gun safety education for youth.[110]
Palin's foreign policy positions were unclear at the time she was picked as McCain's running mate.[111] When asked for her views about troop escalations in Iraq, she replied "…while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place…"[112][113] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Political_positions
I'm sorry that this is so long. :blushing:0 -
I really struggled with who to vote for as neither one of them really impressed me especially Obama. And I felt like if I voted for any other candidate, my vote would pretty much be for naught because to me it's obvious our next president is going to be either McCain or Obama. Since I couldn't bear to not vote and leave my future up to everyone else to vote, I finally decided to go with McCain. He just shares more of my values than Obama does. Then when McCain chose his running mate, I knew I had made the right choice. I'd vote for Sarah Palin for president!
I would too!! And it sounds like a good plan. Let's face it, while a lot of president's are two-term pres., we all know that if McCain wins, he would only serve one term. Which means Palin will have had enough experience by then to run for presidency herself next term (*crossing fingers*). Wouldn't it be interesting to see Hillary and Palin run against each other? WHOAH! I try not talking politics at all, with anyone, but just had to put my two-cents in on this one.
BTW - I felt exactly the same about struggling with who to vote for too and came up with the same ending as you.0
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