interesting Points regarding Diet Pop from my trainer

luelue1971 · June 2011

I used to drink nothing but Diet Dr Pepper. It seemed impossible for me to eat within my calorie range. I cut out all of them except for the occasional one. Now if I drink even one artificially sweetened drink I having cravings so bad that I just can't seem to control my eating.

I don't have "scientific proof" but I know for a fact what the artificial sweeteners do to me. I really don't expect to see any kind of proof due to the fact that the companies that manufacture these sweeteners have millions and millions of dollars to stop it.

We really have to be proactive about our own health and use common sense about what we put in our bodies. It's our responsibility.

kw2s · June 2011

The ADA is in the diabetes buisness, if you no longer have diabetes they are out of buisness. I used to work at ADA processing thier charitable gifts ( from Tour de Cure etc..) and they recieve MILLIONS of dollars from companys like Smuckers, Mars, Coke etc. They also used to hold 'ice cream and pizza parties for thier staff. After working there I have taken everything they say with a grain of salt.

JennsLosing · June 2011

sorry reg soda is way too sweet for me. Ill stick to my occasional diet soda. and btw....

k1229 · June 2011

Well as much as i understand where you are coming from, its not necessarily about calories with regards to diet soda's. I have always preferred diet coke. its nothing to do with its calorie value or the fact that its "diet", for me its solely about taste. i think full strength drinks are too sweet - they make my teeth "squeak" and i dont enjoy them. So to the person that said "you never see skinny people drinking diet drinks...."

Yes you do. I was one of them, and when i get back to my target weight, i will be one again. Its not 'cos it says diet, its 'cos i prefer the taste.

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Thriceshy · June 2011

just because someone is a personal trainer does not mean you should take their advice. I know a trainer who is type 1 diabetic, bodybuilds does steroids and is now dying from heart complications caused by poor management of the diabetes and the use of steroids. Not someone I would look to to tell me how to live.

I wouldnt take advice from the personal trainer you are talking about either - but some do more more then others and know more then the average person also.

I don't drink diet pop but once in awhile - maybe once a month i will have a reg gingerale or some coke in my rum.

No one is telling anyone to stop drinking pop or stop using artificial sweeteners - this is just someones opinions whether you want to agree or not is totally upto you - no one is telling you yes this is the true facts and to stop drinking pop now - the choice is yours and yours only.

So funny how there are always the ones who have to disagree on everything!

You're right--whether or not someone wants to disagree is absolutely up to the individual. Not anyone else. And that disagreement can and should be openly expressed if so desired, if done without rancor or inflammatory language. Preferably without resulting in a label of "disagreeable."

<insert big smile>

Kris

anthony438 · June 2011

So funny how there are always the ones who have to disagree on everything!

Meh, I disagree on that

Kristinemillar · June 2011

The second red flag is the fact that artificial sweeteners were made in a scientific lab by people who configured a chemical substance to taste like sugar. That's disgusting when you actually think about it. Not only should these two facts be alarming alone, but why would you want to put something in your body that is fake, just to save a couple calories? Our bodies are supposed to be the temples that we live through.

And so are many of the drugs you'll take throughout your life, the plants and animals you'll eat each day... So much scaremongering about food really makes me mad...

I'll drink diet drinks to my little hearts content... Rather that than sugar filled non diet drinks!!

k1229 · June 2011

i disagree with the skinny people drinking diet drinks comment im afraid - even when i was a size 8 i drank diet coke - not because it said diet, but because i prefer the taste. regular coke is far too sweet and it makes my teeth "squeak". Ive always preferred diet coke.

I agree the health benefits are none, but its a little bit rude to assume that only overweight people drink diet drinks.
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Thriceshy · June 2011

The ADA is in the diabetes buisness, if you no longer have diabetes they are out of buisness. I used to work at ADA processing thier charitable gifts ( from Tour de Cure etc..) and they recieve MILLIONS of dollars from companys like Smuckers, Mars, Coke etc. They also used to hold 'ice cream and pizza parties for thier staff. After working there I have taken everything they say with a grain of salt.

ROFL, okay. And the AACE is in the business of thrashing our endocrine systems? The APA is in the business of keeping people mentally ill, and hospitals are in the business of keeping people sick? How about the CDC? Are they willfully misinforming us in order to perpetuate our ailments? The American Cancer Society--they looking to keep our cancer rates up in order to keep themselves in business?

What about trainers? They're in business, too--often, they're in the business of handing out medical information without a scrap of qualification, and getting paid a lot for it. What happens to trainers if everyone gets slim and fit? Hmm.

Again--science trumps pop-nutrition. And conspiracy theories. And, for the record, I used to "process charitable gifts" for St. Jude's, Save the Children, and the American Red Cross. Doesn't make me any sort of insider. Just means I answered phones and tapped in numbers.

Kris

Minoesh · June 2011

Here's my take on diet drinks - they make you fat, and keep you fat.

Wow I must have imagined losing 55 pounds

ROFL :laugh:

Minoesh · June 2011

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies). That includes what's in cigarettes, drugs, and anything artifically colored or flavored or preserved. Does anyone know for sure what the effects of all these chemicals are on our health and our environment? Since no one can 100% guarantee me that they are absolutely safe, I can easily do without. If I want to take risks, I'll skydive.

I have to say, I'm with you on this - I have arthritis and any artificial, processed foods including sweeteners absolutley kill me!! But then so do normal sugars, gluten and alcohol

FearAnLoathing · June 2011

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies). That includes what's in cigarettes, drugs, and anything artifically colored or flavored or preserved. Does anyone know for sure what the effects of all these chemicals are on our health and our environment? Since no one can 100% guarantee me that they are absolutely safe, I can easily do without. If I want to take risks, I'll skydive.

So what about imumazations,advil,cough medicne,lotion (cuz if it goes on the skin its in you) deoderant,make up,oh lets not forgett cell phones since they supposedly cause cancer now . Almost every thing we come in contact with now has chemicals in it.If you dont want to drink it fine,thats cool you're decision and all but really chemicals are every where and in everything

ItsTerriC · June 2011

I always say, don’t drink or eat anything that says “Diet” on it, it will make you fat. Ever see a skinny person drinking diet pop? I rest my case.

Actually, most of the skinny people I know drink diet soda. I lost 135 lbs in high school drinking diet soda, and I kept the weight off for 8 years (while continuing to drink diet soda). And the reason you see fat people drinking it is not because it made them fat, but because they're trying to lose weight (and, sadly, often think that giving up sugary sodas is all they have to do to achieve that goal).

I've read the essays on the evils of diet sodas. I've also read the American Diabetes Association's, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists', and the CDC's positions on diet sodas. I'll take science over woo-woo pop-nutrition any day. I'm diabetic, I need to go for the factual stuff.

Ultimately, go with what's working for you. If diet sodas seem to make you crave more sweets or don't work for you in your weight loss scheme, then definitely ditch them. But there's no need to demonize them--they work for many of us.

Kris

What she said (except about being diabetic)

stormieweather · June 2011

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies). That includes what's in cigarettes, drugs, and anything artifically colored or flavored or preserved. Does anyone know for sure what the effects of all these chemicals are on our health and our environment? Since no one can 100% guarantee me that they are absolutely safe, I can easily do without. If I want to take risks, I'll skydive.

So what about imumazations,advil,cough medicne,lotion (cuz if it goes on the skin its in you) deoderant,make up,oh lets not forgett cell phones since they supposedly cause cancer now . Almost every thing we come in contact with now has chemicals in it.If you dont want to drink it fine,thats cool you're decision and all but really chemicals are every where and in everything

Immunizations are the law. I have no choice there. I take organic or all natural cough medicines and vitamins, no other meds whatsoever, all my lotions, soaps, toothpaste, shampoo, deoderant, etc. are organic and/or 100% natural. I am seriously against ingesting or absorbing chemicals. I also avoid plastics and even my household cleaners are green and natural (non-chemical). I don't just do it half-way. I rarely use a cell phone, although I do have one for emergencies. It is perfectly possible to live without all that crap in and on our bodies.

lovejoydavid · June 2011

#3. Healthy sugar replacements: Natural honey, 100% pure maple syrup

hahaha, ok...replace sugar with...sugar?

Honey and PURE maple syrup are natural and unrefined sugars and are good for you to use to replace REFINED sugar with. Its in all of the clean eating books.

I don't know, man. Granulated sugar is just boiled cane (unless it comes from a beet, etc), that has been dried, and filtered (possibly through a bed of activated carbon). Honey is nectar that been repeatedly eaten and thrown up by bees. And this is from a guy that eats a lot of bee puke (i perfer agave, but honey is good in greek yogurt).

lovejoydavid · June 2011

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies). That includes what's in cigarettes, drugs, and anything artifically colored or flavored or preserved. Does anyone know for sure what the effects of all these chemicals are on our health and our environment? Since no one can 100% guarantee me that they are absolutely safe, I can easily do without. If I want to take risks, I'll skydive.

So what about imumazations,advil,cough medicne,lotion (cuz if it goes on the skin its in you) deoderant,make up,oh lets not forgett cell phones since they supposedly cause cancer now . Almost every thing we come in contact with now has chemicals in it.If you dont want to drink it fine,thats cool you're decision and all but really chemicals are every where and in everything

Immunizations are the law. I have no choice there. I take organic or all natural cough medicines and vitamins, no other meds whatsoever, all my lotions, soaps, toothpaste, shampoo, deoderant, etc. are organic and/or 100% natural. I am seriously against ingesting or absorbing chemicals. I also avoid plastics and even my household cleaners are green and natural (non-chemical). I don't just do it half-way. I rarely use a cell phone, although I do have one for emergencies. It is perfectly possible to live without all that crap in and on our bodies.

I think the confusion is about your terms. Anything with carbon or ionic bond is a chemical substance. Most things in the universe are mixtures of various chemically bonded substances. It is possible that your division is arbitrary based on whether or not something can be found in nature. We used to get insulin naturally, but it involved killing quite a few pigs. Now we are able to synthesize it with bacteria, and have saved the pigs, and quite a few people. I love organic food, but I am sketchy on where a healthy division lies between healthy and unhealthy 'chemicals.' Nature has quite a reputation for developing deadly substances, just ask a snake.

mlweaver89 · June 2011

Well color me interested.

stormieweather · June 2011

I'm not going to be an obsessive freak about it, but there ARE options in most cases that have limited or no lab-created chemicals in them. I do not intentionally eat or use something that contains them, if I can avoid it. Sometimes, I can't... /shrug. No one NEEDS aspertame so easily avoidable.

Angellore · June 2011

#2. Aspartame is being linked to MS, Lupus and Parkinson's disease. I know a couple people that have MS through friends and family - they all have, or still do, drink diet pop. Here's a link to learn more. http://www.healthy-holistic-living.com/aspartame-poison.html http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-information.html

Even if the whole of this article is the truth THIS part is just ridiculous. So this person knows some friends of friends with MS who drink diet pop. Well, that must be the reason then, eh? What a stupid statement to make, and IMO offensive to anyone with MS or anyone who knows and loves anyone with MS.

lovejoydavid · June 2011

I'm not going to be an obsessive freak about it, but there ARE options in most cases that have limited or no lab-created chemicals in them. I do not intentionally eat or use something that contains them, if I can avoid it. Sometimes, I can't... /shrug. No one NEEDS aspertame so easily avoidable.

I can buy that, and my wife agrees entirely. There is surely something amiss in this last way of consumer products (starting somewhere around the 20th century), and we are best served by staying above most of it. I just don't want to toss the baby with the bath water.

AngieM76 · June 2011

I think everyone should just do what works for them.

lovejoydavid · June 2011

I think everyone should just do what works for them.

Efficacy should be king. We have SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphism in the protein sequence of otherwise alike DNA) that dictate very different responses to meds, allergens, pathogens, and disease expression. The notion that we will all respond alike to much of anything we ingest is quite mislead.

rach7turtle · June 2012

I always say, don’t drink or eat anything that says “Diet” on it, it will make you fat. Ever see a skinny person drinking diet pop? I rest my case.

This comment in addition to the trainers comment about it makes you fat and keeps you fat are opinions. I weighed 100 lbs at 5'6" and had mostly muscle mass and drank diet pop quite regularly. Now do I think its good for me? No. Will it cause you weight gain? Probably not depending if you are rationalizing all the other foods you are eating around the diet pop or not. The actual drinking of the diet pop won't make you gain. I also think people's bodies respond differently to the chemicals.

seamonkey789 · June 2012

Aspartame is NOT linked to MS or lupus

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

And I lost 80lbs switching from regular coke to diet and switching my diet

Sarauk2sf · June 2012

ETA: why the h*ll did I just post to a thread that was a year old??? How do these things get resurrected?

rgm66 · June 2012

Thanks that was very interesting

wolfi622 · June 2012

There is no logical difference between "artificial" and "natural". A chemical is a chemical. Everything, you, your furniture, ALL of your food, etc. etc. is made up of chemicals. There is no moral difference between a chemical that "nature" put the molecules together for and a chemical that a human put the molecules together for. There is not a lot of real medical, peer reviewed, non "holistic" research to support most of these claims.

ddky · June 2012

I gave up aspartame after I began having mini seizures. It was the only change that I made but I never had another seizure. I had a menstral problem for years that also went away the same month that I stopped the aspartame, so apparently it was affecting my hormones also. I won't even chew gum now if it has aspartame in it. This was several years ago. I use very little artificial sweetners now.