"Starvation." (All opinions wanted!)

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  • portexploit
    portexploit Posts: 378 Member
    From what I've learned on the subject... The fewer calories you eat, the more likely your body is to store fat. Your body can burn muscle much more efficiently than it can burn fat so when you're not eating enough calories it burns the musle and stores the fat.
    This is one reason it's so important to exercise. Another reason would be, the more muscle you have, the more calories your body burns every day.
    If a person only ate 500 calories a day, their body wouold be more likely to store fat in "emergency mode" and burn muscle for fuel. When this happens, people start feeling run down and tired. In my opinion, it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off without regular exercise.

    I know you're talking about what you learned, and that's fine. Let me ask you this, what is more important for our survival, fat or muscle? Common sense is muscle. So it makes no sense why the body would get rid of protein first. The body does need amino acids and will break down protein that's true, but you burn fat by laying in bed all day. That's that's tne number 1 source for energy. Eventually you'd enter a state called ketosis which produces ketones, ketones are made from your fat. They start to run the brain instead of carbs(glucose). You can cause the body to break down muscle for amino acids just by eating a high carb diet. You can bring your body in to ketosis with eating a low carb diet. Calories have little to do with these processes.

    Also, when you eat it increases insulin which stores glycogen(sugar in the muscle) once the muscles are full it will store the sugar as fat. Eating prevnets people from burning fat. So if you're on a low calorie diet, you won't produce as much insulin, which will help liberate fat.So this makes the statment "The fewer calories you eat, the more likely you will store fat" inaccurate.
  • Coltsman4ever
    Coltsman4ever Posts: 602 Member
    From what I've learned on the subject... The fewer calories you eat, the more likely your body is to store fat. Your body can burn muscle much more efficiently than it can burn fat so when you're not eating enough calories it burns the musle and stores the fat.
    This is one reason it's so important to exercise. Another reason would be, the more muscle you have, the more calories your body burns every day.
    If a person only ate 500 calories a day, their body wouold be more likely to store fat in "emergency mode" and burn muscle for fuel. When this happens, people start feeling run down and tired. In my opinion, it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off without regular exercise.

    I know you're talking about what you learned, and that's fine. Let me ask you this, what is more important for our survival, fat or muscle? Common sense is muscle. So it makes no sense why the body would get rid of protein first. The body does need amino acids and will break down protein that's true, but you burn fat by laying in bed all day. That's that's tne number 1 source for energy. Eventually you'd enter a state called ketosis which produces ketones, ketones are made from your fat. They start to run the brain instead of carbs(glucose). You can cause the body to break down muscle for amino acids just by eating a high carb diet. You can bring your body in to ketosis with eating a low carb diet. Calories have little to do with these processes.

    Also, when you eat it increases insulin which stores glycogen(sugar in the muscle) once the muscles are full it will store the sugar as fat. Eating prevnets people from burning fat. So if you're on a low calorie diet, you won't produce as much insulin, which will help liberate fat.So this makes the statment "The fewer calories you eat, the more likely you will store fat" inaccurate.


    I guess since Mr. Six Pack profile pic is on site, the rest of us can just go home, or at least take a break until he's off duty. Sorry to interfere in your lesson.
  • HappyLuna
    HappyLuna Posts: 112
    From what I've learned on the subject... The fewer calories you eat, the more likely your body is to store fat. Your body can burn muscle much more efficiently than it can burn fat so when you're not eating enough calories it burns the musle and stores the fat.
    This is one reason it's so important to exercise. Another reason would be, the more muscle you have, the more calories your body burns every day.
    If a person only ate 500 calories a day, their body wouold be more likely to store fat in "emergency mode" and burn muscle for fuel. When this happens, people start feeling run down and tired. In my opinion, it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off without regular exercise.

    I know you're talking about what you learned, and that's fine. Let me ask you this, what is more important for our survival, fat or muscle? Common sense is muscle. So it makes no sense why the body would get rid of protein first. The body does need amino acids and will break down protein that's true, but you burn fat by laying in bed all day. That's that's tne number 1 source for energy. Eventually you'd enter a state called ketosis which produces ketones, ketones are made from your fat. They start to run the brain instead of carbs(glucose). You can cause the body to break down muscle for amino acids just by eating a high carb diet. You can bring your body in to ketosis with eating a low carb diet. Calories have little to do with these processes.

    Also, when you eat it increases insulin which stores glycogen(sugar in the muscle) once the muscles are full it will store the sugar as fat. Eating prevnets people from burning fat. So if you're on a low calorie diet, you won't produce as much insulin, which will help liberate fat.So this makes the statment "The fewer calories you eat, the more likely you will store fat" inaccurate.


    I guess since Mr. Six Pack profile pic is on site, the rest of us can just go home, or at least take a break until he's off duty. Sorry to interfere in your lesson.

    Lol have to agree with that! Also have to say 6 packs aren't my thing :wink:
  • Jessvaliquette
    Jessvaliquette Posts: 111 Member
    hi guys, I know someone that started the 17 day diet with me and had been only eating 500 to 600 calories a day for a few months, now this might not be related but seams kinda of weird timing, but anyhow she is now off work for several months due to a extreme digestive problem. I think that if your body only gets half of it mandatory calories it starts to create major problems and fast, starvation is not the key to weight loss.
  • Not sure if this has already been posted or not but

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing
  • dkimbriel
    dkimbriel Posts: 17 Member
    There is a weight loss program here in town that does exactly that. 500 calories a day and no exercise allowed. They give you injections of something and take blood work each week and only allow this part of the program to last 3 weeks. That is my answer. If it requires doctors looking over your shoulder and they only want you to do it for 3 weeks, probably not a good plan. My suggestion for weight loss is use MyFitnessPal to make sure the amount of calories you actually eat, then look at the nutrition you are eating. Try eating for reaching all the minimum nutrition values without going over on any of them. This has me eating a lot more food for the same amount of calories. It is HARD to eat enough potassium without eating healthy vegetables and fruit.
  • SirBen81
    SirBen81 Posts: 396 Member
    I'm not sure how practical is to burn 700 calories while only consuming 1200 per day. 700 calories is a pretty big workout; tough to do on such a low calorie diet. If I had to chose between two evils, then I'd choose the one where I could just sit on the couch all day and basically hibernate until this fasting period was over. Either way you'r going to lose muscle mass.
  • portexploit
    portexploit Posts: 378 Member
    From what I've learned on the subject... The fewer calories you eat, the more likely your body is to store fat. Your body can burn muscle much more efficiently than it can burn fat so when you're not eating enough calories it burns the musle and stores the fat.
    This is one reason it's so important to exercise. Another reason would be, the more muscle you have, the more calories your body burns every day.
    If a person only ate 500 calories a day, their body wouold be more likely to store fat in "emergency mode" and burn muscle for fuel. When this happens, people start feeling run down and tired. In my opinion, it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off without regular exercise.

    I know you're talking about what you learned, and that's fine. Let me ask you this, what is more important for our survival, fat or muscle? Common sense is muscle. So it makes no sense why the body would get rid of protein first. The body does need amino acids and will break down protein that's true, but you burn fat by laying in bed all day. That's that's tne number 1 source for energy. Eventually you'd enter a state called ketosis which produces ketones, ketones are made from your fat. They start to run the brain instead of carbs(glucose). You can cause the body to break down muscle for amino acids just by eating a high carb diet. You can bring your body in to ketosis with eating a low carb diet. Calories have little to do with these processes.

    Also, when you eat it increases insulin which stores glycogen(sugar in the muscle) once the muscles are full it will store the sugar as fat. Eating prevnets people from burning fat. So if you're on a low calorie diet, you won't produce as much insulin, which will help liberate fat.So this makes the statment "The fewer calories you eat, the more likely you will store fat" inaccurate.


    I guess since Mr. Six Pack profile pic is on site, the rest of us can just go home, or at least take a break until he's off duty. Sorry to interfere in your lesson.

    I was "nice" about what i said. If you want to believe things that aren't true, that's fine.
  • portexploit
    portexploit Posts: 378 Member
    There is a weight loss program here in town that does exactly that. 500 calories a day and no exercise allowed. They give you injections of something and take blood work each week and only allow this part of the program to last 3 weeks. That is my answer. If it requires doctors looking over your shoulder and they only want you to do it for 3 weeks, probably not a good plan. My suggestion for weight loss is use MyFitnessPal to make sure the amount of calories you actually eat, then look at the nutrition you are eating. Try eating for reaching all the minimum nutrition values without going over on any of them. This has me eating a lot more food for the same amount of calories. It is HARD to eat enough potassium without eating healthy vegetables and fruit.

    You might be talking about the HCG diet, they do inject you with HCG and you eat around 500 calories a day.
  • First, I totally get this is just a question and not what you are doing...funny how people miss that some how. :-P

    When asked this question in the past and reading it here just now my thought is 'how long' are you talking about?

    Depending on what the doctor says is right for the person doing it is what I would do.

    1200 calories-700 vs. the 500 calories well I would say that they are both acceptable (depending on the time span and the person's doctor). They both net the same calories.

    If I was told I had to pick one I owuld take the 1200 calories - 700 simply because it would mean I was moving and that is a lifestyle change needed to maintain health....now would I do it for longer than a month; nope! ;-)

    I am not personally sold on 'starvation' by eating too few calories for a short period of time...
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