Fit For Future Families - October 2011

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  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    Hey guys, what does CP stand for in this context? I looked at the page of abbreviations but it wasn't there (that I saw, at least).

    So, the doctor called with the results of my blood work and she said my thyroid levels look normal. So I guess that is good and bad. Good in that nothing appears to be seriously out of whack with my thyroid (though I have heard that "normal levels" don't necessarily tell the whole story). Bad in that it doesn't give a hint as to why my cycles are wonky or why I don't appear to be ovulating!

    CP = Cervical position (high, low, medium / open, closed / firm or soft)

    This is maybe a dumb question, have they tested for PCOS? it's one of the leading causes of infertility (and wonky cycles and anovulatory cycles) in women. Needs bloodwork (plus I had to do the gross orange drink) and an ultrasound to confirm)
    Ahh... cervical position. That makes sense. They haven't checked for PCOD (yet). We're just starting to realize that things aren't quite right. I don't have typical PCOS symptoms.... exactly, but that doesn't rule it out as a possibility.
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    Hey guys, what does CP stand for in this context? I looked at the page of abbreviations but it wasn't there (that I saw, at least).

    So, the doctor called with the results of my blood work and she said my thyroid levels look normal. So I guess that is good and bad. Good in that nothing appears to be seriously out of whack with my thyroid (though I have heard that "normal levels" don't necessarily tell the whole story). Bad in that it doesn't give a hint as to why my cycles are wonky or why I don't appear to be ovulating!

    Hey, I just wanted to add this cause it's also been used recently. CP can also mean chemical pregnancy, it's where you lost the baby before the doctor would be able to see a gestational sack on an ultrasound, pretty much any miscarriage before 5 week. It's usually characterized by a positive hpt then a negative within a week or so later.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    Hey guys, what does CP stand for in this context? I looked at the page of abbreviations but it wasn't there (that I saw, at least).

    So, the doctor called with the results of my blood work and she said my thyroid levels look normal. So I guess that is good and bad. Good in that nothing appears to be seriously out of whack with my thyroid (though I have heard that "normal levels" don't necessarily tell the whole story). Bad in that it doesn't give a hint as to why my cycles are wonky or why I don't appear to be ovulating!

    Hey, I just wanted to add this cause it's also been used recently. CP can also mean chemical pregnancy, it's where you lost the baby before the doctor would be able to see a gestational sack on an ultrasound, pretty much any miscarriage before 5 week. It's usually characterized by a positive hpt then a negative within a week or so later.
    Oh, see, I think that is how it has been used recently. Now I get it. Thanks!
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that I did get to take an opk today. It's almost dark! Looks like I'm ovulating already, should be positive tomorrow! Yay! Timing sucks cause DH just got a cortisone shot in his spine and is in the worst pain ever, but he agreed to BD with me anyway, I love my husband!
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that I did get to take an opk today. It's almost dark! Looks like I'm ovulating already, should be positive tomorrow! Yay! Timing sucks cause DH just got a cortisone shot in his spine and is in the worst pain ever, but he agreed to BD with me anyway, I love my husband!
    Cool! What time do you do your OPK? I ordered a big pack of them and I was trying to do it around 10 am. One day it was darker than the previous days, so I thought maybe I should also do it in the afternoon too (I hear sometimes a positive OPK can be easy to miss). But then I never got a positive. Maybe I wasn't consistent enough or maybe I drink too much water and my urine is too diluted (something my acupuncturist said can happen).
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
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    Cool! What time do you do your OPK? I ordered a big pack of them and I was trying to do it around 10 am. One day it was darker than the previous days, so I thought maybe I should also do it in the afternoon too (I hear sometimes a positive OPK can be easy to miss). But then I never got a positive. Maybe I wasn't consistent enough or maybe I drink too much water and my urine is too diluted (something my acupuncturist said can happen).
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    I usually take mine in the late afternoon, today I took it right after I picked it up, at about 5, I usually aim for 3-4. Really the main rule for opk's is no peeing for 4 hours prior to testing and no drinks for 2 hours prior to testing. Other than that you truthfully can take them anytime of day. I usually get a positive opk for a day, but there have been instances where I only got one positive opk once in a day so I usually test with opk's 2 to 3 times a day once I notice them getting darker, just to be sure I don't miss it. Once with FMU, once at around 2-4 and once in the evening usually 8-10, sometimes closer to midnight. It can be pretty easy to miss a positive opk if you only test once a day.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    I usually take mine in the late afternoon, today I took it right after I picked it up, at about 5, I usually aim for 3-4. Really the main rule for opk's is no peeing for 4 hours prior to testing and no drinks for 2 hours prior to testing. Other than that you truthfully can take them anytime of day. I usually get a positive opk for a day, but there have been instances where I only got one positive opk once in a day so I usually test with opk's 2 to 3 times a day once I notice them getting darker, just to be sure I don't miss it. Once with FMU, once at around 2-4 and once in the evening usually 8-10, sometimes closer to midnight. It can be pretty easy to miss a positive opk if you only test once a day.
    That's very helpful. Unfortunately that whole "no drinks for 2 hours prior to testing" will be downright impossible for me. I pretty much drink water or herbal tea CONSTANTLY throughout the day. But I guess I can try!
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    That's very helpful. Unfortunately that whole "no drinks for 2 hours prior to testing" will be downright impossible for me. I pretty much drink water or herbal tea CONSTANTLY throughout the day. But I guess I can try!

    Lol, yeah me too. Just try to hold as long as possible, I've gotten early bfp's and positive opk's with diluted urine. If you can't make it then don't stress too much!

    New update for me, just started cramping really bad??? These aren't even like ovulation cramps, they are more similar to AF cramps. Now I'm confused, I don't think my body even knows what it's doing at the moment.
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    Hey guys, what does CP stand for in this context? I looked at the page of abbreviations but it wasn't there (that I saw, at least).

    So, the doctor called with the results of my blood work and she said my thyroid levels look normal. So I guess that is good and bad. Good in that nothing appears to be seriously out of whack with my thyroid (though I have heard that "normal levels" don't necessarily tell the whole story). Bad in that it doesn't give a hint as to why my cycles are wonky or why I don't appear to be ovulating!

    Hey, I just wanted to add this cause it's also been used recently. CP can also mean chemical pregnancy, it's where you lost the baby before the doctor would be able to see a gestational sack on an ultrasound, pretty much any miscarriage before 5 week. It's usually characterized by a positive hpt then a negative within a week or so later.

    You're right - WHOOPS!
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943

    Now on to the confusion, AF started today??????
    So now I don't know what's happening to me, and I'm still not completely convinced I'm not pregnant. When I got off my IUD in January I started AF a month later then found out I was pregnant 8 days after AF, so I know that I can get pregnant and still have AF, well at least after b/c I can, and I just took out my NuvaRing 4 days ago.
    So I'm either ovulating, pregnant, or just out this cycle. It's most likely that I'm ovulating, even though AF is here, and I think I'm going to just take a FRER to rule out pregnancy.

    What do you ladies think, any similarly screwy experiences?
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943

    Now on to the confusion, AF started today??????
    So now I don't know what's happening to me, and I'm still not completely convinced I'm not pregnant. When I got off my IUD in January I started AF a month later then found out I was pregnant 8 days after AF, so I know that I can get pregnant and still have AF, well at least after b/c I can, and I just took out my NuvaRing 4 days ago.
    So I'm either ovulating, pregnant, or just out this cycle. It's most likely that I'm ovulating, even though AF is here, and I think I'm going to just take a FRER to rule out pregnancy.

    What do you ladies think, any similarly screwy experiences?

    I have no idea what to tell you, but the last time I removed my NuvaRing (over a year ago), it took me a full three months (and medical intervention) to even get my period again! They've been pretty irregular ever since. I think that right after birth control it can take your body a while (some times a long time, it seems, in my case) to get back into the right rhythm. I guess I wouldn't read too much into all the tests and signs just yet (I mean, unless of course you are pregnant, in which case--awesome!).
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943

    Now on to the confusion, AF started today??????
    So now I don't know what's happening to me, and I'm still not completely convinced I'm not pregnant. When I got off my IUD in January I started AF a month later then found out I was pregnant 8 days after AF, so I know that I can get pregnant and still have AF, well at least after b/c I can, and I just took out my NuvaRing 4 days ago.
    So I'm either ovulating, pregnant, or just out this cycle. It's most likely that I'm ovulating, even though AF is here, and I think I'm going to just take a FRER to rule out pregnancy.

    What do you ladies think, any similarly screwy experiences?

    Yup - all the time. I would gear up to O, have AF and be convinced I was pregnant all within a few days, it's the hormones. Especially coming off the birth control and after a chemical pregnancy - your body doesn't know which way is up.:smile: I would let everything settle down - try not to take the HPT for at least 2 weeks (and eat, drink, exercise as though you might be pregnant just in case). Constant testing is only going to make you more anxious, which is not good for you or for TTC efforts. I know that its way way harder than it sounds......and we're here to listen :flowerforyou: Have they done any testing to figure out why you're having such trouble keeping the pregnancies? I'm thinking of you...
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943

    Now on to the confusion, AF started today??????
    So now I don't know what's happening to me, and I'm still not completely convinced I'm not pregnant. When I got off my IUD in January I started AF a month later then found out I was pregnant 8 days after AF, so I know that I can get pregnant and still have AF, well at least after b/c I can, and I just took out my NuvaRing 4 days ago.
    So I'm either ovulating, pregnant, or just out this cycle. It's most likely that I'm ovulating, even though AF is here, and I think I'm going to just take a FRER to rule out pregnancy.

    What do you ladies think, any similarly screwy experiences?

    Yup - all the time. I would gear up to O, have AF and be convinced I was pregnant all within a few days, it's the hormones. Especially coming off the birth control and after a chemical pregnancy - your body doesn't know which way is up.:smile: I would let everything settle down - try not to take the HPT for at least 2 weeks (and eat, drink, exercise as though you might be pregnant just in case). Constant testing is only going to make you more anxious, which is not good for you or for TTC efforts. I know that its way way harder than it sounds......and we're here to listen :flowerforyou: Have they done any testing to figure out why you're having such trouble keeping the pregnancies? I'm thinking of you...

    Yeah, they checked my thyroid and for clotting disorders but didn't come up with anything. According to the doctor there is nothing wrong with me. IDK, I've never really had this weird of a time getting back to normal, even after coming off b/c or a m/c. My body just doesn't know what it wants to do right now. Oh well, guess I will just have to relax and see what happens.
  • jalara
    jalara Posts: 2,599 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943
    I don't have much advice to add (sorry) but I would definitely call that a positive OPK.
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    Hope everyone's weekend is going well :) It's a chilly one here, they're saying we might have snow. But I just spent the evening in the backyard of our friends place at the bonfire.....I've missed just relaxing!!!! LOL

    Tomorrow I'm hoping to get in a great workout with our private beach fall cleanup (raking leaves, putting up snow fences, moving equipment into the storage area....should be fun! Then we're coming home and decorating for Hallowe'en......and sometime amongst all of that, I have to pull apart all my cupboards in the kitchen and do some major cleaning (not to get into details, let's just say my cat brought me a present today.....and I DO NOT DEAL well with that stuff. So tomorrow is going to be a complete pull down and scrub of everything). What a weekend.....
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    Had a dream I was 11 weeks pregnant the other night :) Keeping my fingers crossed this week! And hubby might be going to Texas for work (pray that he gets this job!) so we won't another chance to try until Christmas if it didn't happen this month.

    i have a love/hate relationship with dreams like that. fingers crossed with you.
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    VENT!!!!!!

    Okay, if you haven't noticed on my newsfeed, I need to share. Read this news story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2011/10/25/edmonton-winners-service-dog.html

    I am so so so mad about this! Downright ticked off!:mad:

    hmmm. i find the writing on that story very poor and inflammatory.

    i have a labradoodle.
    i had a child that was on the autistic spectrum for three years.
    i have a friend who's son is bipolar and has a service dog.

    i can see not letting in a service dog that may cause problems with other patrons (because of size or energy) and when it is not a necessity. why would a girl with autism be shopping by herself without an adult keeping track of her? she wouldn't. so why would she need her dog in the store to make sure she doesn't run away? i don't get it. for me, service dogs for the blind are in a different category than service dogs for autism/bipolar.

    it sounds more like the store had a problem with this specific dog/girl, but the media is making it seem like a broader problem.

    regardless of my personal feelings, i'm sorry the story upset you jalara.
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    What do you ladies think, is this opk positive or not quite? It's definitely darker than yesterdays
    http://community.babycenter.com/photos/smorescookie/21705943

    that looks positive to me. weird that af showed up too. sorry things are wonky in your body right now. maybe take a few weeks off to let your body get back into a routine?
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    Also, I just came across this article. Interesting. I'm certainly not using it in this way because of the PCOS combined with MFI, but I wonder what it means for me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15467844. It's about how IVF is linked to ovarian tumors (although I wonder why I was surprised. I already knew PCOS puts me at a higher risk for reproductive cancers because of my elongated periods of estrogen (which in high doses has been linked to cancer). That's why I'm so vigilant about getting the provera at 35 days - I've already had one scare. But I guess it has to do with the controlled hyperstimulation process (which is just increasing your estrogen above normal levels).....food for thought though...

    interesting article. makes sense though.
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    as for me, busy day today. two roller hockey games early this morning (7:15 and 8:30), 3-mile run around the lake, took the boys to see 'smurfs', went to church, went to a friend's halloween party. she had a massive salad bar, crabcakes, lobster tails, etc. i ate waaaaay too much and now i'm regretting it. seriously, who serves lobster tails at a pirate party? :) i loved it, but i don't even want to know what her grocery bill was for this. craziness!
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    as for me, busy day today. two roller hockey games early this morning (7:15 and 8:30), 3-mile run around the lake, took the boys to see 'smurfs', went to church, went to a friend's halloween party. she had a massive salad bar, crabcakes, lobster tails, etc. i ate waaaaay too much and now i'm regretting it. seriously, who serves lobster tails at a pirate party? :) i loved it, but i don't even want to know what her grocery bill was for this. craziness!

    Seafood isn't terrible for you - full of good things. At least you didn't eat way too much at the candy station or chip bar :) And it sounds like you certainly worked them off.
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    AFM: Feeling a little blue today. I have lots to do that is going to keep me distracted, but still. Feeling a little blue. DH's best friend and his soon to be fiancee (I know he bought the ring about a month ago, but hasn't officially asked) called us over yesterday to tell us something.....we figured it was either going to be that he asked or they were preggers. It was the second......They knew we'd be a little bummed, but also that he would need someone to freak out with this over - it's very very soon and they're not telling anyone else for a few months......I'm really happy for them, but I also know they weren't "trying" for more than this cycle. So I`m going to let myself have a small pity party for a few hours and then move on.....

    Anyone on the boards get hit by that snow stormÉ I know that it didn`t quite hit here, but we definitely have had our killing frost, which means I need to pull all my annuals and tomato plants today sometime....
  • McFatterton
    McFatterton Posts: 1,358 Member
    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! I look forward to getting to know all of you :flowerforyou:

    One quick questions - what does AFM mean?

    Fitterpam - I know exactly how you feel. When my dh and I were trying to get pregnant with Redmond his brother called to tell us that him and his girlfriend were pregnant. Mind you, she became his girlfriend after they found out she was pregnant. It was kind of a one night thing that turned into a relationship....which didn't last too long. I was absolutely devastated because they definitely weren't trying and I was losing my mind trying to get pregnant. Hugs!!
  • MissFuchsia
    MissFuchsia Posts: 523 Member
    Hello, can I join this thread? I'm tcc but not been off the depo injection so could take a while for to wear off
  • fitterpam
    fitterpam Posts: 3,064 Member
    McFatterton - Yeah - usually it doesnèt affect me, except Ièm usually happy for them. But I guess with everything going on this week and being potentially being put on hold......I am happy for them. Theyve been together for 3 years and he was coming off a bad divorce because his ex didnèt want kids so itès really a huge happy thing for them. AFM means as for me....

    Miss Fuchsia - welcome. If you scroll to the beginning of this thread, youèll find a quick questionnaire, itèll help us get to know you better :) Not everyone here is a actively TTC and even some that are are in the same position as you :)
  • Smores18
    Smores18 Posts: 119 Member
    AFM: Feeling a little blue today. I have lots to do that is going to keep me distracted, but still. Feeling a little blue. DH's best friend and his soon to be fiancee (I know he bought the ring about a month ago, but hasn't officially asked) called us over yesterday to tell us something.....we figured it was either going to be that he asked or they were preggers. It was the second......They knew we'd be a little bummed, but also that he would need someone to freak out with this over - it's very very soon and they're not telling anyone else for a few months......I'm really happy for them, but I also know they weren't "trying" for more than this cycle. So I`m going to let myself have a small pity party for a few hours and then move on.....

    Anyone on the boards get hit by that snow stormÉ I know that it didn`t quite hit here, but we definitely have had our killing frost, which means I need to pull all my annuals and tomato plants today sometime....

    I hope you find something that warms your day!!

    AFM - Not much happening, opk is already fading so if I O'd then I'm officially in the 2ww, if I didn't O then I won't know for a little while anyway probably, lol. I think I defy everything when it comes to getting pregnant! I've been pregnant and still got AF and now I've possibly O'd during AF, which some ladies have seriously tried to argue that it's completely impossible, like no way it could happen. Oh well, guess I will hopefully know in 2 weeks! lol! I love people who think they know everything, it gives me something to laugh at when I find out they are wrong, lol, don't worry I don't rub it in their face, just get a little amused over it. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day! I'm surprised at how good the weather has been here lately, supposed to be wonderful weather for Trick O Treating here, which is great since it always seems to snow on Halloween. Really excited to take DD out!

    Have a wonderful day ladies!!!
  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
    I seem to have won my husband over :happy:

    My periods are not regular and, since I've started tracking, have ranged from 19-25 days. This makes it hard to guess O using a calendar, and probably it does coincide with TOM pretty often. My dh always wants me more during my period, so I suspect I am very often fertile then, if not ovulating.

    Fingers crossed....
  • VeganInTraining
    VeganInTraining Posts: 1,319 Member


    AFM - Not much happening, opk is already fading so if I O'd then I'm officially in the 2ww, if I didn't O then I won't know for a little while anyway probably, lol. I think I defy everything when it comes to getting pregnant! I've been pregnant and still got AF and now I've possibly O'd during AF, which some ladies have seriously tried to argue that it's completely impossible, like no way it could happen. Oh well, guess I will hopefully know in 2 weeks! lol! I love people who think they know everything, it gives me something to laugh at when I find out they are wrong, lol, don't worry I don't rub it in their face, just get a little amused over it. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day! I'm surprised at how good the weather has been here lately, supposed to be wonderful weather for Trick O Treating here, which is great since it always seems to snow on Halloween. Really excited to take DD out!

    Have a wonderful day ladies!!!

    I recently did some research on this and it is definitely possible to O during AF. It's unusual, but possible. Best of luck!
  • VeganInTraining
    VeganInTraining Posts: 1,319 Member
    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone! I look forward to getting to know all of you :flowerforyou:

    One quick questions - what does AFM mean?

    Fitterpam - I know exactly how you feel. When my dh and I were trying to get pregnant with Redmond his brother called to tell us that him and his girlfriend were pregnant. Mind you, she became his girlfriend after they found out she was pregnant. It was kind of a one night thing that turned into a relationship....which didn't last too long. I was absolutely devastated because they definitely weren't trying and I was losing my mind trying to get pregnant. Hugs!!

    Hi McFatterton AFM means As for me....on the first page of this forum there's a list of all the abbreviations we use. I have to reffer to it ALL THE TIME! I laughed when I read your post because I am having a similar experience with my brother in law. he just found out his "girlfriend" is pregnant....with twins. Not only that, but it's one of those situations where he's gonna ask for a paternity test. I definitely do not envy the position he is in, but I am jealous of having a baby and twins at that....assuming they are his. Oh the drama that is my life! lol

    Pam: hang in there! you're day will come and it will be a wonderful blessing. Love ya lady!
  • VeganInTraining
    VeganInTraining Posts: 1,319 Member
    I seem to have won my husband over :happy:

    My periods are not regular and, since I've started tracking, have ranged from 19-25 days. This makes it hard to guess O using a calendar, and probably it does coincide with TOM pretty often. My dh always wants me more during my period, so I suspect I am very often fertile then, if not ovulating.

    Fingers crossed....

    YAY good luck!
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