Gaining Muscle is NOT that easy.

SergeantSunshine_reused

WTH!! All I have to do is swim in sweats and clean my house to gain muscle!! Heck I've been doing it all wrong!

I KNOW! Why have I been lifting weights for all these months? So much effort wasted....

I feel like such a failure!

Like stated above make sure to use proper form while deadlifting the fridge to sweep under it xD

I guess my 197 grams of protein yesterday was a waste too!! CRAP!!

WHAT are you doing?? NONSENSE! *tisk tisk*

ninerbuff

I guess my 197 grams of protein yesterday was a waste too!! CRAP!!

Haha! You consume as much a me!!! You rock!!!!

Jesung

My bf % stayed consistent according to a skinfold caliper so I would say it's close to 8-9lb

Calipers don't measure visceral fat.

So you're saying I gained no fat outside but entirely on the inside? Come on, you're trying too hard now.

soysos

I'm not talking about body building here. If your only goal is size this is not for you, if however your goal OS strength, speed, power, and indurance this works results come quickly and continually. One third intensive cardio one third resistance training one third insurance cardio. As for swimming in sweats this is purly about strength training, same concept as jogging in a weighted vest. Or you could tow a bucket for the same effect.

lockef

I'm not talking about body building here. If your only goal is size this is not for you, if however your goal OS strength, speed, power, and indurance this works results come quickly and continually. One third intensive cardio one third resistance training one third insurance cardio. As for swimming in sweats this is purly about strength training, same concept as jogging in a weighted vest. Or you could tow a bucket for the same effect.

Dude... just stop posting.

soysos

Look I have been an athlete my entire life. In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound, never touched weights. After my third championships I started lifting in one year I only succeeded in gaining 15 pounds of fat.

ninerbuff

So you're saying I gained no fat outside but entirely on the inside? Come on, you're trying too hard now.

Dude, unless you measured EVERY SINGLE SPOT on your body with calipers (not just basic points), like calves, back, neck, face, etc. the probability of gaining that much muscle in highly unlikely. You can believe what you want, but being in bodybuilding almost my whole life and training athletes and others who wanted to put on mass, I'm more than sure that I have a qualified background along with science on my side to say that it's improbable you've put on that much muscle. Water plays a big part in weight gain. You may have a lot of glycogen stored which would raise your weight without affecting fat.
If it makes you feel good to say that you gained that much muscle, that's your NSV, but you aren't going to convince people who have full experience in doing it that what you say is legit.

Jeff92se

Look I have been an athlete my entire life. In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound, never touched weights. After my third championships I started lifting in one year I only succeeded in gaining 15 pounds of fat.

I'd like to see a picture of yourself at 220lbs @9% bodyfat. Your profile pic looks like you're 150lbs

ninerbuff

I'm not talking about body building here. If your only goal is size this is not for you, if however your goal OS strength, speed, power, and indurance this works results come quickly and continually. One third intensive cardio one third resistance training one third insurance cardio. As for swimming in sweats this is purly about strength training, same concept as jogging in a weighted vest. Or you could tow a bucket for the same effect.

To gain muscle you put on size, so your point about gaining muscle is now opposed by what you just stated. So which is it? Are you gaining muscle without gaining size? Or are you building speed, strength and endurance (which incidentally doesn't mean you're gaining muscle)?

ajmaccar

I hear that! I always hear women at the gym complaining that their trainers are giving them too much weight to lift doing weight training, and that they don't want to bulk up, but the reality is that its pretty darn hard to build muscle. You have to really work at it and make it a goal to get ripped, esp for a woman.

Sidesteal

. In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound,

Are you 7'2"?

ninerbuff

Look I have been an athlete my entire life. In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound, never touched weights. After my third championships I started lifting in one year I only succeeded in gaining 15 pounds of fat.

Being an athlete all your life doesn't mean you know about human physiology. If you knew what you were talking about, then you'd make a ton of money with your anecdote because there are many athletes who are trying to add muscle, but have a hard time doing it, but if they went under your technique they would EASILY gain muscle.......................<eyeroll>

Rae6503

Look I have been an athlete my entire life. In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound, never touched weights. After my third championships I started lifting in one year I only succeeded in gaining 15 pounds of fat.

You're "entire life" is 21 years. You only have experience with your own body. You are arguing fitness with people who have formally studied it and/or have been training others and themselves for longer than you've been alive...

ninerbuff

In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound,

Are you 7'2"?

Dude, you made me spit my water!!!!

solpwr

Troll.

Tahoe77Chelle

An easy way to tell if you are gaining muscle when your weight is not moving is by taking measurements. :flowerforyou:

I think people are just too afraid to gently say that yes, if you have been dieting for 4 weeks and not seeing changes, your routine needs tweaking, so they try to say something nice.

chrisdavey

I'm not talking about body building here. If your only goal is size this is not for you, if however your goal OS strength, speed, power, and indurance this works results come quickly and continually. One third intensive cardio one third resistance training one third insurance cardio. As for swimming in sweats this is purly about strength training, same concept as jogging in a weighted vest. Or you could tow a bucket for the same effect.

This thread is about gaining muscle.

I would not be taking advice from an endurance athlete that can't spell endurance.

Sidesteal

In my prime I had 9% body fat at 220 pound,

Are you 7'2"?

Dude, you made me spit my water!!!!

For real though, 220 and 9%... unless dude is very tall, those are roid numbers IMO.

soysos

Actually I'm 6' tall in my picture I have 10% body fat at 180 pounds.

Mass and stragth go hand in hand. And to build strangth all you need is to steadily put more stress on your muscles. Again not hard just time consuming and heavy lifting is not vital to success.

Sidesteal

Actually I'm 6' tall in my picture I have 10% body fat at 180 pounds.

If that's indeed correct, then kudos to you. That should look amazing.

ninerbuff

Actually I'm 6' tall in my picture I have 10% body fat at 180 pounds.

Mass and stragth go hand in hand. And to build strangth all you need is to steadily put more stress on your muscles. Again not hard just time consuming and heavy lifting is not vital to success.

So you're telling me you were 40lbs heavier at 1% less body fat than you are now? And unless you were enhanced and lost all that muscle recently, this was all as a high school teenager? Dude I am calling BS. Again unless you were taking something.
You DON'T lose that much muscle if you didn't use weight resistance training. Maybe if you did lift hard and heavy and had like a 4 year layoff and ate in calorie deficit, but not if you didn't train like you say you didn't.
Oh wait, you could if you were on meth. I call BS.

Jesung

So you're saying I gained no fat outside but entirely on the inside? Come on, you're trying too hard now.

Dude, unless you measured EVERY SINGLE SPOT on your body with calipers (not just basic points), like calves, back, neck, face, etc. the probability of gaining that much muscle in highly unlikely. You can believe what you want, but being in bodybuilding almost my whole life and training athletes and others who wanted to put on mass, I'm more than sure that I have a qualified background along with science on my side to say that it's improbable you've put on that much muscle. Water plays a big part in weight gain. You may have a lot of glycogen stored which would raise your weight without affecting fat.
If it makes you feel good to say that you gained that much muscle, that's your NSV, but you aren't going to convince people who have full experience in doing it that what you say is legit.

lol I don't know why you are insisting that it must be mostly fat and not muscle. Do you know my training routine? Do you know how much I eat? 1lb of muscle a week for a relative beginner isn't farfetched.

Jeff92se

wouldn't a before/after bodyfat % measurement along with a total weight before/after confirm a general muscle/fat gain/loss?

AZackery

Not speaking for every woman's body, was speaking in terms of how "fast" you claimed it is to get muscular arms. So what do you call fast? A month, 6 months, 12 months?

Why don't you tell me how long it takes for a person to get muscular arms.

I don't know if you have ever seen the movie What's Love Got to Do with It starring Angela Bassett as Tina Turner. She had 30 days to get Tina Turner's body. In 30 days, she has gotten muscular arms, etc.

This goes to show you that everyone body is different and it doesn't take a year to get muscular arms. There's a difference between Angela Bassett as Tina Turner arms vs Chyna's arms.

You are a bodybuilder, I know you have heard of muscle confusion. I'm sure you have seen the infomercials for P90x. I know you have heard of getting ripped.

So, in my opinion, it's easy for a person to get muscular arms. And I see muscular arms and bodybuilder arms as two different things.

AZackery

wouldn't a before/after bodyfat % measurement along with a total weight before/after confirm a general muscle/fat gain/loss?

Yes. Well it will show a before/after fat/lean body mass gain/loss.

soysos

Actually I'm 6' tall in my picture I have 10% body fat at 180 pounds.

Mass and stragth go hand in hand. And to build strangth all you need is to steadily put more stress on your muscles. Again not hard just time consuming and heavy lifting is not vital to success.

So you're telling me you were 40lbs heavier at 1% less body fat than you are now? And unless you were enhanced and lost all that muscle recently, this was all as a high school teenager? Dude I am calling BS. Again unless you were taking something.
You DON'T lose that much muscle if you didn't use weight resistance training. Maybe if you did lift hard and heavy and had like a 4 year layoff and ate in calorie deficit, but not if you didn't train like you say you didn't.
Oh wait, you could if you were on meth. I call BS.

Consistent training for 12 years got me those results. Then I took two years off eating half as.much now its all gone.

Jeff92se

You have a pic of when you were 220 and 9%?

Jeff92se

Actually I'm 6' tall in my picture I have 10% body fat at 180 pounds.

Mass and stragth go hand in hand. And to build strangth all you need is to steadily put more stress on your muscles. Again not hard just time consuming and heavy lifting is not vital to success.

So you're telling me you were 40lbs heavier at 1% less body fat than you are now? And unless you were enhanced and lost all that muscle recently, this was all as a high school teenager? Dude I am calling BS. Again unless you were taking something.
You DON'T lose that much muscle if you didn't use weight resistance training. Maybe if you did lift hard and heavy and had like a 4 year layoff and ate in calorie deficit, but not if you didn't train like you say you didn't.
Oh wait, you could if you were on meth. I call BS.

Consistent training for 12 years got me those results. Then I took two years off eating half as.much now its all gone.

Profile:

soysos

21 years old

Male

Training for 12 years.

Hitting the weights hard since you were 7 years old huh soysos? 7 + 12 years + 2 years off = 21 years old.

buhaha

chrisdavey

Not speaking for every woman's body, was speaking in terms of how "fast" you claimed it is to get muscular arms. So what do you call fast? A month, 6 months, 12 months?

Why don't you tell me how long it takes for a person to get muscular arms.

I don't know if you have ever seen the movie What's Love Got to Do with It starring Angela Bassett as Tina Turner. She had 30 days to get Tina Turner's body. In 30 days, she has gotten muscular arms, etc.

This goes to show you that everyone body is different and it doesn't take a year to get muscular arms. There's a difference between Angela Bassett as Tina Turner arms vs Chyna's arms.

You are a bodybuilder, I know you have heard of muscle confusion. I'm sure you have seen the infomercials for P90x. I know you have heard of getting ripped.

So, in my opinion, it's easy for a person to get muscular arms. And I see muscular arms and bodybuilder arms as two different things.

a movie???

P90x is not a great workout plan to gain muscle. (I have done it) You gain muscular endurance.

and re rate of gains
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html

katrina1025

I'm not talking about body building here. If your only goal is size this is not for you, if however your goal OS strength, speed, power, and indurance this works results come quickly and continually. One third intensive cardio one third resistance training one third insurance cardio. As for swimming in sweats this is purly about strength training, same concept as jogging in a weighted vest. Or you could tow a bucket for the same effect.

Do your research. The research says (over and over) the only way to see "significant strength gains" is to overload. More specifically by lifting at 60-80% of your one-rep max. Period. So please feel free to pull up some randomized controlled trials on sweats and swimming and link them here.