How Do You Feel About The Flu Shot?
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And how would you feel if you didn't get the shot, got the flu and passed it onto someone immunocomprimised, elderly, or a child and they died?
Are you serious? Then their flu shots didn't work, I guess, right? Why is that on my conscience? Every older person I know is basically bullied into getting a flu shot every year, as are the immunocompromised that I know. My daughter IS immunocompromised, but I let her own immune system do its work without kicking it into hyperdrive (through immunization-hello! Her immune system doesn't work efficiently, so let's pump her full of stuff that her immune system has to tinker with??? That's stupid!!!). She has only half usage of one of her lungs due to being born with several congenital heart defects.... however, if I had continued to give her the shots (prior to her diagnosis), it would have killed her. My mother's heart said to stop. I did. She was later diagnosed, and the doctors told me that because her body was busy making extra red blood (because her heart was all jacked up), that the immunizations would have killed her while her body stopped with the red blood to make the white blood and let her immune system go to town with the crap they'd put in her. I'll take her weak immune system any day. It's done just fine so far.
would it not be better for her for you not to bring **** home to her? she can't have the vax to protect her not everyone can.0 -
I believe that her well fed body can do its job without the interruption of immunizations. It has worked very well so far. She also drinks my breastmilk if she gets sick.
She gets a HEALTHY dose of immunities from that... no needles needed. 0 -
Have you actually looked at those links you posted?
They all agree with exactly what I said. There is so little of those ingredients they are at non-toxic levels
AGAIN I say , it is the DOSE that makes the poison.
You can die from drinking too much water for example.
You can have tissue damage from too much oxygen.
Too much sunlight can burn you, too little and you get a Vitamin D deficit.
Too much Potassium can kill you, too little can too.
Without iron you can't make hemoglobin and without hemoglobin you can't deliver oxygen to your cells.
Yet Iron overdose has been one of the leading causes of death caused by toxicological agents in children younger than 6 years
Balance is the key.
The ingredients that keep being brought up are only put in vaccines in levels to do just what is needed, sometimes it's a co-solvent, sometimes it's to prevent growth of bugs etc.
There are Preservative free Flu-shots available , and that's what we give to pregnant women,
Just like there are double dose flu-shots that have twice as much antigen for senior citizens .0 -
I don't like flu shots. I've never had one in my life. My kids don't get them. My husband doesn't get it. My family got the H1N1 last year, and we survived. We felt miserable for a little while, slept a lot, drank lots of water and vegged out together, took our fever meds, and got over it. We relied on our immune systems, and they worked just the way they were supposed to.
The flu shot isn't even guaranteed to work. It's a guess. Loaded with a mega dose of mercury. Mmmmm. Delightful. Don't you dare throw out one of those mercury light bulbs in the regular trash, but let's all be forced to get a shot full of mercury? Doesn't seem right to me...
Well The Flu shot actually relies on your immune system, it exposes your body to pieces of the protein coat of the 3 most common flu strains this year (as determined by epidimiologists). Yes its not guaranteed you won't get the flue but works at least 90% of the time (that's the threshold for FDA approval and they are FDA approved). When your immune system sees the piece of foreign protein it creates antibodes that allow a secondary immune response to an actual exposure to eradiacte the virus before it can cause you illness (theres a definitive difference between exposure and illness). And they any vaccine produced today does not have a "mega dose of mercury" I'd LOVE to see your source on that. As for me I got my information from my undergraduate degree in Biological sciences but you can find what I explained in any college immunology textbook0 -
I bet no one but the three people arguing even read this far into the thread. And no one's ever reading this post since its not inflammatory, but as for my two cents:
You work in a hospital, Its required. No questions asked, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Get the shot, its an occupational hazard. I get 1st and 2nd degree burns, you get flu shots, its the way the world works.
Personally, I don't get the flu shot because 1- its not free, and 2- I've never needed it and suspect I never will. I haven't gotten sick even once from any virus since having chicken pox and walking pneumonia simultaneously. If its bacterial, I'll get it every time, but I haven't had a single virus in twenty years, so I like my odds.0 -
Wow, apparently a lot of controversy on this subject! However, the facts speak for themselves. Mortality rates have decreased to the tens of thousands instead of millions (20-40 million in the pandemic of 1918-1920) since flu vaccine was invented.0
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I am required to get one because I am a nursing student. I wouldn't want anybody working around my family if they were sick or weren't vaccinated. I also would hope that anybody working with people who have chronic diseases, elderly, and small children would get the shot. People who are more at risk for getting sick should be confident that they aren't going to get something because somebody that they come in contact with (school teacher, health care worker, day care/nursing home faculty, etc.) didn't get vaccinated.0
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Yup. Not to mention the increases in overall lifespan because children stopped dying from measles, smallpox, polio, diphtheria, etc.Wow, apparently a lot of controversy on this subject! However, the facts speak for themselves. Mortality rates have decreased to the tens of thousands instead of millions (20-40 million in the pandemic of 1918-1920) since flu vaccine was invented.0 -
Personally, I don't get the flu shot because 1- its not free, and 2- I've never needed it and suspect I never will.
You can get free flu shots. You just have to look. If you have insurance, it is usually covered and you pay nothing. Students can usually get free flu shots through school, a lot of businesses offer free flu shots to employees, and there are clinics that offer free flu shots. You have to know where to look.
Not getting the flu shot can put others at risk around you. It's not just for your benefit, it helps the people you come in contact with every day.0 -
It is impossible to get the flu from the flu shot. The virus is inactivated and dead. The nasal spray one is live, so technically it could happen that you get the flu from that, but still very unlikely. Just wanted to make that clear!
I'm not argueing your point at all because I hear this all the time but what I don't understand is why certain people get the flu after the shot.
I've heard this too but I literally got the flu within 48 hours of getting the shot. And not mild flu-like symptoms, full blown flu. Concidence? Sure, could be. But as I'm not prone to getting it, it's not something I feel is necessary and I wouldn't appreciate being forced to get it.
I refuse to get the flu shot. A few yrs ago my oldest daughter and her step dad got the flu shot. EVERYBODY in my house got the flu a few days later, except me (an I think I had a mild version. I spent one day sick in bed, which is RARE for me) Wouldnt have been as bad, but we're talking 3 adults an 3 kids an I was the only one not sick. My in-laws were living with us as well, they are elderly and frankly almost ended up in the hospital. I never want to go thru something like that again.
He has gotten the flu shot a few times since and gets the flu every-freaking-time! Oldest learned her lesson and I wont let the other 2 get the shot.
Every single person I know personally that has gotten the flu shot, ended up with the flu anywhere from a few days to about 4 weeks after getting the flu shot. Very weird coincidences. I had the flu about 4 years ago. It sucked, but I got through it. It wasn't even as bad as everyone makes out to be (for me at least). I stayed hydrated and took all of the medication as directed by my doctor. It lasted about 4 days. I also have never gotten the flu shot.0 -
Never had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
This year's flu shot has H1N1 (swine flu) in it as well. No thanks!0 -
Personally, I don't get the flu shot because 1- its not free, and 2- I've never needed it and suspect I never will.
You can get free flu shots. You just have to look. If you have insurance, it is usually covered and you pay nothing. Students can usually get free flu shots through school, a lot of businesses offer free flu shots to employees, and there are clinics that offer free flu shots. You have to know where to look.
Not getting the flu shot can put others at risk around you. It's not just for your benefit, it helps the people you come in contact with every day.
just thought her post needed repeating0 -
It is impossible to get the flu from the flu shot. The virus is inactivated and dead. The nasal spray one is live, so technically it could happen that you get the flu from that, but still very unlikely. Just wanted to make that clear!
I'm not argueing your point at all because I hear this all the time but what I don't understand is why certain people get the flu after the shot.
I've heard this too but I literally got the flu within 48 hours of getting the shot. And not mild flu-like symptoms, full blown flu. Concidence? Sure, could be. But as I'm not prone to getting it, it's not something I feel is necessary and I wouldn't appreciate being forced to get it.
I refuse to get the flu shot. A few yrs ago my oldest daughter and her step dad got the flu shot. EVERYBODY in my house got the flu a few days later, except me (an I think I had a mild version. I spent one day sick in bed, which is RARE for me) Wouldnt have been as bad, but we're talking 3 adults an 3 kids an I was the only one not sick. My in-laws were living with us as well, they are elderly and frankly almost ended up in the hospital. I never want to go thru something like that again.
He has gotten the flu shot a few times since and gets the flu every-freaking-time! Oldest learned her lesson and I wont let the other 2 get the shot.
Every single person I know personally that has gotten the flu shot, ended up with the flu anywhere from a few days to about 4 weeks after getting the flu shot. Very weird coincidences. I had the flu about 4 years ago. It sucked, but I got through it. It wasn't even as bad as everyone makes out to be (for me at least). I stayed hydrated and took all of the medication as directed by my doctor. It lasted about 4 days. I also have never gotten the flu shot.
i have had the flu shot every year since my son was diagnosised wth asthma at age 3 he is 12 , i have never gotten sick from the shot. neither has he. worse i have had is this year my old shoulder injury flared up a little, next year i will remember not to get it in that arm0 -
Never had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot0 -
Never had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot
yep, so i wonder why you dont hear alot about it anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................................0 -
I was never a fan of getting flu shots until a coworker got H1N1 aka Swine Flu. She was SOOOOO VERRRRY sick she thought she was going to actually die.
Seeing how that was for her was enough to convince me.
If you are around ANY young children, elderly people or anyone with a compromised health condition get the flu shot for them.
You may be healthy enough to fight back/recover when you get the flu but you could also be spreading it to others less fortunate before you even know you are carrying it.0 -
i work in health care so i get the flu shot every year because women come in my office when they have the flu and they want me to make them feel better. i don't want to take it home to my family. my daughter has asthma but she is away at college now so i enc her to get a flu shot. my sons are both in the Army...they don't get a choice...they get the flu shot! i do usually get mild symptoms a few days after getting the shot...mild headache, sore neck, sore muscles but it is way better than getting the flu!0
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The flu jab doesn't actually stop you carrying the virus or passing it on.0
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Never had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot
yep, so i wonder why you dont hear alot about it anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................................
i do remember hearing about some cases last year...we had one preg woman get it (i think it was last year) and she got very ill.0 -
you don't hear about near as many thoughNever had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot
yep, so i wonder why you dont hear alot about it anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................................
i do remember hearing about some cases last year...we had one preg woman get it (i think it was last year) and she got very ill.0 -
you don't hear about near as many thoughNever had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot
yep, so i wonder why you dont hear alot about it anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................................
i do remember hearing about some cases last year...we had one preg woman get it (i think it was last year) and she got very ill.
you are right...there will be a new mutated strain soon
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The flu jab doesn't actually stop you carrying the virus or passing it on.
if you got the flu shot, when you pick the virus your body is able to fight it, you no longer have the virus and this keeps you from passing it on to others.0 -
you don't hear about near as many thoughNever had one as far back as I can remember.
Whatever happened to the swine flu anyway? Or was that just here?
I remember lines and lines of people in every city, goin to get swine flu shots or some garbage.
Pigs are better off gettin a kiwiburger shot.
there was one year when you had to get 2 shots, one for reg flu and one for swine flu because it wasnt added to the "formula" but now it is added to the reg flu shot so you only have to get the one shot
yep, so i wonder why you dont hear alot about it anymore. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................................
i do remember hearing about some cases last year...we had one preg woman get it (i think it was last year) and she got very ill.
you are right...there will be a new mutated strain soon
that is the unfortunate nature of viruses , even seeing that in some of the old viruses in my field yay (the yay is dripping with sarcasm)0 -
The important thing is to ask yourself why you are so upset about getting it?
Is it the risks? Which ones?
Are you uncomfortable with getting a needle?
Are you worried about side effects?
I can answer some of these:
The risks of getting the flu shot are VERY small.
Almost every person who gets the shot experiences little or no side effects.
The mercury that it contains is significantly less than if you ate one can of tuna a week for 1 month and you can now get a
flu shot that does not contain the thamerisol (mercury containing preservative)
I don't want to get sick. You CANNOT get the flu from the flu shot. However, if you have been in contact with some who as
the flu before you get your shot, the shot will not save you.
Don't like needles?
There is now a flu vaccine that is available in a nasal spray. It is not nearly as affective in transferring immunity, but it
works pretty good.
Side effects?
The most common side effects are a sore arm and a low grade fever for 24 hrs. These are easily handled with some
tylenol.
Reasons to get the flu shot
1. Influenza is a serious, potentially life threatining illness. It will take you out of work for a minimum of 1 week. I can't even
begin to describe to you how aweful you will feel with it. My best description of it is take the worst cold you have every had
and multiply the symptoms by about 1000 (not an exaggeration). You will NOT be able to get out of bed for at least 3-5
days. No showers, no making meals, no laundry, no shopping. Nothing. You will NOT be able to do it. Getting up to
go to the bathroom will take all the energy you have and you will need a 2 hr nap just because you went pee. This is not
something you want to catch.
2. Last year in Canada (where I live), approximately 7000 people died of influenza and we only have 35 million people.
3. Your age, fitness level and previous healthy lifestyle will NOT protect you because it is as easy to catch as the common
cold.
4. Your children and your parents are more likely to get seriously ill from influenza if they come in contact with it from you.
This will only happen if you do not get the flu shot.
So the next time you are approached about the flu shot it might be time for some self honesty. What are you concerned about? Talk to a medical person about your concerns. You may be surprised at the amount of misinformation you have been given.0 -
This is absolutely FALSE. The flu shot will stop you from being a carrier. :explode:0
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Where do you live? I get a flu shot but it isn't mandatory at all...0
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FORCED, WHAT???? Where on earth do you work? If it's with kids, the elderly or in medicine I understand.
I haven’t had the flu since I was a child, I had the flu shot 5 years ago and got sick and then got H1N1 last year BEFORE I was even available to get the shot (high-risk people had first dibs) and even then with Tami-flu prescribed (it's supposed to reduce duration/symptoms) I was only sick for 4 days, 2 of which I was at work with the sniffles, called in sick on the Friday which broke my streak of never calling in sick (6 year run I had) and then recovered on Sunday to be perfectly fine by Monday.
My favourite part of the flu was when I asked the doctor, how do you know if I have H1N1 or the regular flu? And was told, the only test is by autopsy, YIKES! So if you had the flu and not just a cold you had H1N1.
That being said I am NOT getting the shot and I'm Canadian where medical care is ALWAYS FREE!*
*Something’s may be extra, had to buy a $20 brace for my knee once when I was a kid but crutches and ortho consult is all free, weird.0 -
This is 100% true. I think a lot of people who think they have had the flu didn't actually have the flu, but rather had a stomach virus or cold or other respiratory infection. Everyone who posted about sniffles or dehydration and missing a day or two of work - you did not have influenza. If you felt like you could barely muster up the energy to move, ached in every single joint, ran a fever while simultaneously having chills (when I had it I had on flannel pajamas, a sweatshirt, a bathrobe, socks, slippers, and two blankets and was still shivering), and only started to feel anywhere close to something that can be described as "normal" after 7-10 days, then yes you probably had influenza.My best description of it is take the worst cold you have every had and multiply the symptoms by about 1000 (not an exaggeration). You will NOT be able to get out of bed for at least 3-5 days. No showers, no making meals, no laundry, no shopping. Nothing. You will NOT be able to do it. Getting up to go to the bathroom will take all the energy you have and you will need a 2 hr nap just because you went pee. This is not something you want to catch.0 -
I have never had one before but I had pneumonia last year, and have also had bronchitis a few times, trachitis, pleurisy and numerous lung infections and this year I decided I couldn't risk it again. So I had it, and so far, no chest infection, which is a change for me.0
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I have never had a flu shot and I get the flu maybe once every 8 years.0
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