Say your 15 yr old daughter requests Birth Control

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  • asyouseefit
    asyouseefit Posts: 1,265 Member
    I don't know... Maybe that's because I'm European or maybe I'm just weird! I don't see sex as evil. If my kids are in a committed relationship when they're 16, I don't see anything wrong with them "getting it on". I don't feel they need to be protected from it, unless you mean using both BC and condoms. Of course, I'd hate to see them sleep around or have sex because they've been pressured to, I'm not crazy!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't know... Maybe that's because I'm European or maybe I'm just weird! I don't see sex as evil. If my kids are in a committed relationship when they're 16, I don't see anything wrong with them "getting it on". I don't feel they need to be protected from it, unless you mean using both BC and condoms. Of course, I'd hate to see them sleep around or have sex because they've been pressured to, I'm not crazy!

    No one thinks it's evil and it has nothing to do with being European. Sex is emotional and there are serious consequences to it. No birth control is 100% and there are lifelong diseases one can contract even with a condom and even in a serious, loving, committed relationship if one or both parties are not already virgins.

    It's not a bad thing. I very much enjoy sex and have since I was 16. It's not dirty or wrong. But it's a HUGE responsibility with serious emotional and physical consequences.

    I don't think driving is bad, either, but I wouldn't hand my car keys to a 10-year-old.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
    So having sex as a teenager is the same thing as getting hit by a car? Well, I certainly hope my kids never see it that way!

    No, more like it is comparable to driving a car. It can be fun, it can be freeing, it can be fast and exciting. (it can also be boring and stale if you've been driving the same car for years!)

    But it is not without inherent risks. And its best, if you do plan to drive (or have sex) to both be aware of the risks and take steps to mitigate them.
  • asyouseefit
    asyouseefit Posts: 1,265 Member
    I don't know... Maybe that's because I'm European or maybe I'm just weird! I don't see sex as evil. If my kids are in a committed relationship when they're 16, I don't see anything wrong with them "getting it on". I don't feel they need to be protected from it, unless you mean using both BC and condoms. Of course, I'd hate to see them sleep around or have sex because they've been pressured to, I'm not crazy!

    No one thinks it's evil and it has nothing to do with being European. Sex is emotional and there are serious consequences to it. No birth control is 100% and there are lifelong diseases one can contract even with a condom and even in a serious, loving, committed relationship if one or both parties are not already virgins.

    It's not a bad thing. I very much enjoy sex and have since I was 16. It's not dirty or wrong. But it's a HUGE responsibility with serious emotional and physical consequences.

    I don't think driving is bad, either, but I wouldn't hand my car keys to a 10-year-old.

    Never said having sex didn't come with consequences. And I totally agree you should inform your kids about said consequences!

    Edit: I pretty much agree with you and bananavatar, I was reacting to other posts.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I don't know... Maybe that's because I'm European or maybe I'm just weird! I don't see sex as evil. If my kids are in a committed relationship when they're 16, I don't see anything wrong with them "getting it on". I don't feel they need to be protected from it, unless you mean using both BC and condoms. Of course, I'd hate to see them sleep around or have sex because they've been pressured to, I'm not crazy!

    No one thinks it's evil and it has nothing to do with being European. Sex is emotional and there are serious consequences to it. No birth control is 100% and there are lifelong diseases one can contract even with a condom and even in a serious, loving, committed relationship if one or both parties are not already virgins.

    It's not a bad thing. I very much enjoy sex and have since I was 16. It's not dirty or wrong. But it's a HUGE responsibility with serious emotional and physical consequences.

    I don't think driving is bad, either, but I wouldn't hand my car keys to a 10-year-old.

    Never said having sex didn't come with consequences. And I totally agree you should inform your kids about said consequences!

    Edit: I pretty much agree with you and bananavatar, I was reacting to other posts.
    There are a lot of people who were raised with the idea that bodies are dirty and sex is wrong except for procreation and I guess that does inform their opinions.

    Thankfully, I wasn't raised that way and am not raising my daughter that way. I don't think it's an American/European divide, though. I think it's just more about who raised you and it's sad that anyone has to have that attitude.

    Just in biological terms, sex is necessary and it feels good and we're hormonally driven to it because otherwise the species would die out! That's a tough thing to fight against. :-)
  • SueGremlin
    SueGremlin Posts: 1,066 Member

    I'm not throwing around the word 'rape'
    I'm pointing out the law
    If someone has sex with a minor it IS classed as rape
    That's not me being insensitive to those who have actually been raped
    Not exactly. You have to be an adult who has sex with a minor to be tried for statutory rape. Two minors are not going to fall into that category.
    It's fine to advise someone to "keep their legs closed". It's not realistic to expect them to listen to you.
  • sexforjaffacakes
    sexforjaffacakes Posts: 1,001 Member
    " In the US, where abstinence-only health programmes blossomed in pre-Obama years, the rate of teen pregnancy is still the highest in the developed world. In contrast, a thorough sex education, based on scientific evidence and a lack of moralising, has a proven positive effect in this area: teen pregnancy rates in the UK are at their lowest since the early 1980s – not that you'd know it in some corners of the press."

    Came across this article, thought it might be relevant

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/16/anti-sex-drive-nadine-dorries?fb_action_ids=10150463125678488,2280092594197,10150351748346455,10150929992425212,205045709570358&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_ref=U-Wf5fj3MYyOzi40Q7IPT6lC-CFCONX01FRS-338xfXXX,U-8iZXFoBB7upR4dMXLsd5iV-CFCONX01FRS-338xfXXX,U-M79l14_Yvn7C4nsjIq1QRb-CFCONX01FRS-338xfXXX,U-233IOrYOXDke4JjMIYN5lU-CFCONX01FRS-338xfXXX,U-7tdz6KwyCYe54FzBIHlWHw-CFCONX01FRS-33d84XXX&fb_source=other_multiline
  • Solly123
    Solly123 Posts: 162 Member
    Communication, communication, communication..

    I've a son and from the age of 10 I spoke to him about sex and relationships and respect, character, morals etc. I can have a frank conversation about anything with him now. And he will tell me everything about his life and his relationships.

    To me, I think he has turned into a confident, proud, respectful young man who is not afraid to go against popular opinion / his peers. He is confident enough in himself to decide what he thinks is the right thing to do..

    I think you need to work on childrens characters / personalities from a young age, not protect them from the harshness of life and the badness they will meet. Rather you need to help them have the strength to be able to deal with it when it comes. Because unfortunately we won't be able to protect them from every thing.

    My son knows that I am by his side, no matter what happens.. Even if he has made a bad decision or bad mistake, once he tells me, I can work with him to resolve it or stand by him when the s**t hits the fan.. I'll always have his back..

    So my advice is, start talking asap. Make sure they are NEVER afraid to tell you anything. They need to be able to come home and say - "Mam, I did something really silly out with my mates last night.. I took cocaine.." Even when you think you can't cope - you will... I stood there and said - well, what was it like.. Inside my head I was in chaos.. But outwardly, I was calm and relaxed.. We discussed it. He knew it was stupid. He said that he could totally understand why people got hooked and that frightened him.. So he wasn't going near it again..

    Now he's the one coming home complaining whenever one of his mates takes any drug out at night, when his mates drink too much, when they are drunk and start stupid fights.. His mates are in shock that he tells me everything - they are afraid to tell their parents.. But I'm thinking, those parents don't know what their young men are doing.. I know - I may not like it, but I have to trust that my son is strong enough in character to deal with it.. And so far so good..

    So, talk, talk and talk.. Don't preach or rant or go off the deep end. They need sensible conversations. We were all their age at one time.. Let them know the mistakes you made yourself.. None of us are perfect.. Maybe if they can see our mistakes and why we made them and what we had to do to get over them - they will find it easier to tell us when they make mistakes too..

    Best of luck...
  • 42hockeymom
    42hockeymom Posts: 521 Member
    There are other reasons for teenagers to be on the pill. I started it when I was in high school, and it wasn't because I was sexually active (because I wasn't...and still am not) it was because I had terrible acne and incredibly painful heavy irregular periods, the pill does a lot more than just protect you from getting pregnant.

    ^^^This!!^^^

    My oldest daughter suffered so badly from heavy painful periods, it was horrendous! She was missing AT LEAST 2 days of school a month because of it. I happened to mention to my doc at my "appointment" that she was having such a bad time. She looked at me and asked why my DD wasn't on BC. "DUH!!!" It's also hormone replacement. Talk about a huge improvement in her life. She fought me tooth and nail not wanting to be on BC because she wasn't sexually active also. But after being on it for a month and seeing a marked improvement she changed her tune.

    I can't stress enough it's not always BIRTH control, sometimes it's hormone replacement or hormone regulating. We discussed that while this would and could prevent her from becoming pregnant if used correctly it didn't protect her from STD's, or HIV/AIDS. She was 16 at the time, a time that I thought was good to drill in her head these points (I'd been teaching these things before, but now I brought out the big guns) We discussed that the only way to prevent ALL STD's was abstinence. After that, well then safe sex was what needed to be practiced. I happy to report that my DD is now 21, and while I question some of her decisions, I know that she's pretty damn smart when it comes to these matters.

    I wouldn't change a thing other than getting her on it earlier to alleviate her pain. I feel bad about that. Talking to the doc was my "ah ha" moment. Luckily my 14 yo DD is not having these symptoms, but if she were, I'd make sure I'd help her too.
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    i think this goes back to personal responsibility.

    kids need to know that there are consequences for their actions. they need to realize that if they want to go around having unprocted sex then they run the risk of getting pregnant and STDs.

    You play you pay.

    My husband and I are at odds on this subject though. I say yes to the pill but my husband feels like that is giving her permission to get it on. We stress abstinence abstinence abstinence. However, i know what its like to be a hormonal teenager. We have a tiny bit of time to come to an agreement on this one.

    You may want to say to your husband that your children won't wait for your permission to have sex. Did you? Did he? Does any teen?

    I said it before, I'll say it again. "Just say no" is ineffective and I view it as lazy parenting. How many of us have told our kids not to touch something, how often do they do it anyway? Now change that child to a teenager and give them raging hormones. MAYBE they won't have sex.. yes it's possible. But it's a really huge risk you're taking with your child's life based on some ideology.

    You want to stress abstinence, that's cool. But denying them the tools they need that actually work to prevent pregnancy and disease... well I don't have a very good opinion of that.

    i have to disagree. I dont think its lazy parenting. We teach and educate our kids. He is very well aware that kids wont wait. But just because they do it doesnt make it right. I wish someone would have talked to me. No one said a word. We talk openly with our daughter about these things.

    Its a moral thing in our house. We dont shame anyone for their choices but they are just that CHOICES. Sometimes you make good ones and sometimes you dont. I think parents these days try to be their kids BFFs and I disagree with that. Kids need to be taught and given guidance. They also have to know about consequences. I am the product of a teenage mother. My mom was 16 when she had me.

    Its our jobs to teach our kids and whats wrong with saying No? It happens sometimes.
    With that being said we will cross that bridge when we come to it. Until then I will continue to speak openly about sex and things to my kids.
    Thanks for your input :)
  • If they are requesting it they most likely already need it, and are trying to do the right thing. If you discuss sex with your kids and are honest and approachable they are not going to need to go behind your back.

    this! and...
    I have a 12yo daughter, I am dreading this day as she just began menstruating. I would have to have a serious talk about the intense adult ramifications involved with sex and to lighten it up I would give her an aspirin to keep in her purse. When with a boy and feels the need for birth control, she is to hold the aspirin between her knees until the treat has passed. This is effective protection against STDs and pregnancy!
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    i think this goes back to personal responsibility.

    kids need to know that there are consequences for their actions. they need to realize that if they want to go around having unprocted sex then they run the risk of getting pregnant and STDs.

    You play you pay.

    My husband and I are at odds on this subject though. I say yes to the pill but my husband feels like that is giving her permission to get it on. We stress abstinence abstinence abstinence. However, i know what its like to be a hormonal teenager. We have a tiny bit of time to come to an agreement on this one.

    You may want to say to your husband that your children won't wait for your permission to have sex. Did you? Did he? Does any teen?

    I said it before, I'll say it again. "Just say no" is ineffective and I view it as lazy parenting. How many of us have told our kids not to touch something, how often do they do it anyway? Now change that child to a teenager and give them raging hormones. MAYBE they won't have sex.. yes it's possible. But it's a really huge risk you're taking with your child's life based on some ideology.

    You want to stress abstinence, that's cool. But denying them the tools they need that actually work to prevent pregnancy and disease... well I don't have a very good opinion of that.

    i have to disagree. I dont think its lazy parenting. We teach and educate our kids. He is very well aware that kids wont wait. But just because they do it doesnt make it right. I wish someone would have talked to me. No one said a word. We talk openly with our daughter about these things.

    Its a moral thing in our house. We dont shame anyone for their choices but they are just that CHOICES. Sometimes you make good ones and sometimes you dont. I think parents these days try to be their kids BFFs and I disagree with that. Kids need to be taught and given guidance. They also have to know about consequences. I am the product of a teenage mother. My mom was 16 when she had me.

    Its our jobs to teach our kids and whats wrong with saying No? It happens sometimes.
    With that being said we will cross that bridge when we come to it. Until then I will continue to speak openly about sex and things to my kids.
    Thanks for your input :)

    I think it is far lazier to have your daughter ask you for the pill and you take her to get it than spending 15 years up until that point teaching her morality, self respect, and what your role as a parent is. I think that some people are missing the point that just because some of us won't take our daughters to get on birth control doesn't mean we are naive that our teenagers may be having sex. Like another poster said, we are their parents, not their friends. I went and got myself on birth control when I was 19. Not "behind my mother's back" because I didn't trust her enough to go to her, but because I respected her enough not to place her in that position. I can talk to my mom about anything and everything, but I would never ask her to do something that would compromise her own moral obligations. I hope my daughter feels the same way.
  • coyoteo
    coyoteo Posts: 532 Member
    Get her birth control, have a long talk with her and nail her window shut. But really, I remember being 15. I would be damn proud that she felt she could come to me for this.
  • sexforjaffacakes
    sexforjaffacakes Posts: 1,001 Member

    I think it is far lazier to have your daughter ask you for the pill and you take her to get it than spending 15 years up until that point teaching her morality, self respect, and what your role as a parent is. I think that some people are missing the point that just because some of us won't take our daughters to get on birth control doesn't mean we are naive that our teenagers may be having sex. Like another poster said, we are their parents, not their friends. I went and got myself on birth control when I was 19. Not "behind my mother's back" because I didn't trust her enough to go to her, but because I respected her enough not to place her in that position. I can talk to my mom about anything and everything, but I would never ask her to do something that would compromise her own moral obligations. I hope my daughter feels the same way.

    Why is it "immoral" and lacking in "self respect" to consider having sex with someone? Especially if it's a bf/gf they've been with for a while and they care about each other? This attitude, I do not understand.
  • sexforjaffacakes
    sexforjaffacakes Posts: 1,001 Member


    this! and...
    I have a 12yo daughter, I am dreading this day as she just began menstruating. I would have to have a serious talk about the intense adult ramifications involved with sex and to lighten it up I would give her an aspirin to keep in her purse. When with a boy and feels the need for birth control, she is to hold the aspirin between her knees until the treat has passed. This is effective protection against STDs and pregnancy!

    I don't get this?
  • CoraGregoryCPA
    CoraGregoryCPA Posts: 1,087 Member
    I didnt read any of the post, but just wanted to say it makes me sad. The child should be in sports not having sex. Why are they having sex? Looking for love in all the wrong places????? This website is about health and fitness, you should preach that to your kids.
  • CoraGregoryCPA
    CoraGregoryCPA Posts: 1,087 Member
    Maybe she wants her daughter to have anal sex?

    Also, your other post, said how long have they been together? We are talking about 15 year olds. How do they know what is an appropriate time.


    this! and...
    I have a 12yo daughter, I am dreading this day as she just began menstruating. I would have to have a serious talk about the intense adult ramifications involved with sex and to lighten it up I would give her an aspirin to keep in her purse. When with a boy and feels the need for birth control, she is to hold the aspirin between her knees until the treat has passed. This is effective protection against STDs and pregnancy!

    I don't get this?
  • karenjoy
    karenjoy Posts: 1,840 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    Again~ who said that any of us who will not provide our 15 year old daughter with birth control thinks that means she won't have sex?
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member

    I think it is far lazier to have your daughter ask you for the pill and you take her to get it than spending 15 years up until that point teaching her morality, self respect, and what your role as a parent is. I think that some people are missing the point that just because some of us won't take our daughters to get on birth control doesn't mean we are naive that our teenagers may be having sex. Like another poster said, we are their parents, not their friends. I went and got myself on birth control when I was 19. Not "behind my mother's back" because I didn't trust her enough to go to her, but because I respected her enough not to place her in that position. I can talk to my mom about anything and everything, but I would never ask her to do something that would compromise her own moral obligations. I hope my daughter feels the same way.

    Why is it "immoral" and lacking in "self respect" to consider having sex with someone? Especially if it's a bf/gf they've been with for a while and they care about each other? This attitude, I do not understand.

    In our home, morality is based on our religion and the teachings of the church.
  • karenjoy
    karenjoy Posts: 1,840 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    Again~ who said that any of us who will not provide our 15 year old daughter with birth control thinks that means she won't have sex?

    yes but she WON'T have an unwanted pregnancy as a result......that is the point surely
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    i can speak for myself in the fact that I dont NOT know if she is or is not going to engage in underage sex. I would however like to know that she doesnt have to just because some kid wants her to. Besides 15 year olds are inadequately equipped emotional and mentally to make any decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives. Thats why they have parents.

    I do not rule my kids with an iron fist. we have a loving home and we do openly communicate. No one knows what their kids will do when they are teenagers. No one's way is right or wrong. Whatever works for one household may not work in another.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    Again~ who said that any of us who will not provide our 15 year old daughter with birth control thinks that means she won't have sex?

    yes but she WON'T have an unwanted pregnancy as a result......that is the point surely

    You're assuming that teenagers who don't have a parent who will say yes to birth control end up pregnant. I realize I'm in the minority here, but none of my friends or any of my children's friends or my husband's friends got pregnant when they were teenagers. I doubt they were put on birth control by their parents. I've worked at a high school for 10 years, and I've never seen or heard of a teenager getting pregnant, nor any of the guys getting someone pregnant. Believe it or not, not all teenagers who have sex and have a parent who won't provide BC get pregnant.
  • karenjoy
    karenjoy Posts: 1,840 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    i can speak for myself in the fact that I dont NOT know if she is or is not going to engage in underage sex. I would however like to know that she doesnt have to just because some kid wants her to. Besides 15 year olds are inadequately equipped emotional and mentally to make any decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives. Thats why they have parents.

    I do not rule my kids with an iron fist. we have a loving home and we do openly communicate. No one knows what their kids will do when they are teenagers. No one's way is right or wrong. Whatever works for one household may not work in another.

    But by asking to go on the pill, she is making her own mind and choice on the matter clear, and is asking that you help prevent an unwanted child that might result from adding to the massive numbers already in your country, which has the worlds highest teen pregnancy rate.
  • AnninStPaul
    AnninStPaul Posts: 1,372 Member
    i'm not a parent either, but my concern would be that if she's on birth control, then guys could easily talk themselves out of using a condom. too many std's for that.

    this is *kind of* my thinking.


    I am a parent, and that would be my concern as well.
  • karenjoy
    karenjoy Posts: 1,840 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    Again~ who said that any of us who will not provide our 15 year old daughter with birth control thinks that means she won't have sex?

    yes but she WON'T have an unwanted pregnancy as a result......that is the point surely

    You're assuming that teenagers who don't have a parent who will say yes to birth control end up pregnant. I realize I'm in the minority here, but none of my friends or any of my children's friends or my husband's friends got pregnant when they were teenagers. I doubt they were put on birth control by their parents. I've worked at a high school for 10 years, and I've never seen or heard of a teenager getting pregnant, nor any of the guys getting someone pregnant. Believe it or not, not all teenagers who have sex and have a parent who won't provide BC get pregnant.

    Worlds HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY rate......
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Am I the only one here shocked at how many people say they'd be "proud" of their 15 year old daughter asking for birth control because she was having sex? One person even said she felt she "would have done her job" if her daughter doesn't get pregnant before she graduates from high school. It just reminds me of the quote, "Your children will live down to your expectations".
  • boomboom011
    boomboom011 Posts: 1,459
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    i can speak for myself in the fact that I dont NOT know if she is or is not going to engage in underage sex. I would however like to know that she doesnt have to just because some kid wants her to. Besides 15 year olds are inadequately equipped emotional and mentally to make any decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives. Thats why they have parents.

    I do not rule my kids with an iron fist. we have a loving home and we do openly communicate. No one knows what their kids will do when they are teenagers. No one's way is right or wrong. Whatever works for one household may not work in another.

    But by asking to go on the pill, she is making her own mind and choice on the matter clear, and is asking that you help prevent an unwanted child that might result from adding to the massive numbers already in your country, which has the worlds highest teen pregnancy rate.

    im sure the day will come that she asks for it too. my hope and desire is that she waits until she is married. i dont understand why this mind frame is laughed at? i dont think its unrealistic at all.
  • karenjoy
    karenjoy Posts: 1,840 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    i can speak for myself in the fact that I dont NOT know if she is or is not going to engage in underage sex. I would however like to know that she doesnt have to just because some kid wants her to. Besides 15 year olds are inadequately equipped emotional and mentally to make any decisions that will affect them for the rest of their lives. Thats why they have parents.

    I do not rule my kids with an iron fist. we have a loving home and we do openly communicate. No one knows what their kids will do when they are teenagers. No one's way is right or wrong. Whatever works for one household may not work in another.

    But by asking to go on the pill, she is making her own mind and choice on the matter clear, and is asking that you help prevent an unwanted child that might result from adding to the massive numbers already in your country, which has the worlds highest teen pregnancy rate.

    im sure the day will come that she asks for it too. my hope and desire is that she waits until she is married. i dont understand why this mind frame is laughed at? i dont think its unrealistic at all.

    I don't even know what to say to that....
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Do you know what, all you people who think if you talk to your kids and are open with them or any other of those things that they WON'T have sex if they want are only deluding yourselves, like my Mum, who totally believed I would not have sex, I told her I would not have sex when she asked me about it, she would not let me go on the pill because she KNEW I was a good girl, I was bright, we had an open and easy relationship and I had firm moral boundaries and great guidelines to follow.
    It was only when I was pregnant that she finally woke up and smelt the coffee....bit late methinks

    Again~ who said that any of us who will not provide our 15 year old daughter with birth control thinks that means she won't have sex?

    yes but she WON'T have an unwanted pregnancy as a result......that is the point surely

    You're assuming that teenagers who don't have a parent who will say yes to birth control end up pregnant. I realize I'm in the minority here, but none of my friends or any of my children's friends or my husband's friends got pregnant when they were teenagers. I doubt they were put on birth control by their parents. I've worked at a high school for 10 years, and I've never seen or heard of a teenager getting pregnant, nor any of the guys getting someone pregnant. Believe it or not, not all teenagers who have sex and have a parent who won't provide BC get pregnant.

    Worlds HIGHEST TEEN PREGNANCY rate......

    And you're automatically assuming these teens are ones who went to their parents for birth control and their parents said no? Do you realize that many of these teens WANT to get pregnant? Do you realize that some of these teens probably had access to birth control? Do you realize that many of these teens weren't even talked to about pregnancy? I'm not saying to keep it taboo in the home and never talk about it. I'm saying I could never take my daughter at 15 to get birth control. I would have never provided my sons with condoms, either.
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