Could you eat McDonalds as part of a healthy diet?

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/
    So I guess that people like myself that eat "garbage" don't have better health than someone like you who eats much better?
    I've eaten it for over 40 years. I must be really dumb.<eye roll>
    To me people who judge how others eat, especially when for some reason they got overweight on "healthier choices", have to get off that high horse.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    A Toronto family has filed a $17.5 million lawsuit against McDonald's of Canada, alleging that nine-year-old Ayan Abdi Jama took a bite of a McDonald's hamburger containing the crushed head of a rat, "complete with eyes, teeth, nose and whiskers."

    The burger was cooked; the rat was not.
    And of course this was PROVEN in court? Sorry, but listening to news on some people who may be just trying to get some money is not the best way to make decisions.




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  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    What amazes me is people are still buying into the entire "McDonalds is poison and unhealthy" bit. Let's do an example shall we:

    Example:

    One middle aged man (we'll call him Bob) has been eating 3 meals a day of nothing but McDonalds cheeseburgers and fries for the past 3 months, but is eating a calorie deficit and is losing weight at 1-2 lbs per week and he is exercising 3-4 times a week.

    versus

    One middle aged man (we'll call him Fred) has been eating 3 meals a day everyday for the past 3 months composed of whole foods but is eating a calorie surplus, doesn't exercise, and sits on the couch all day long.

    Which of these two men is the unhealthy one?
  • Crystal817
    Crystal817 Posts: 2,021 Member
    They grind all the meat up, press them into forms and bread them with a breading mixture. Oh, by the way .. they use chicken alright .. EVERYpart of a chicken .. brains, innards, even eyeballs...but, sure as shoot'n it's ALL chicken!

    Ever since I heard about this 'process' .. I don't want to even drive in their parking lot. Can't even think about it, without gagging.

    I think you'll find the same is true for any highly processed meat product. Not just at McDonalds.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member

    If they say it's chicken .. it HAS to be chicken. A friend watched a documentary on it one time .. when they 'brewed' up the meat for their chicken mcnuggets. They grind all the meat up, press them into forms and bread them with a breading mixture. Oh, by the way .. they use chicken alright .. EVERYpart of a chicken .. brains, innards, even eyeballs...but, sure as shoot'n it's ALL chicken!

    Ever since I heard about this 'process' .. I don't want to even drive in their parking lot. Can't even think about it, without gagging.

    That is actually a very efficient use of the animals. People in many places in the world eat ALL the offal along with the muscle tissue and fat that "Western cultures" traditionally consume. Frankly, I don't see a difference between eating a muscle and eating an organ. It's better than slaughtering an animal, cutting off the breast meat and discarding the rest.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/

    Maybe the meat at McDonnell's is made from rats.

    Not sure about McDonald's though. Pretty sure it's chicken.

    If they say it's chicken .. it HAS to be chicken. A friend watched a documentary on it one time .. when they 'brewed' up the meat for their chicken mcnuggets. They grind all the meat up, press them into forms and bread them with a breading mixture. Oh, by the way .. they use chicken alright .. EVERYpart of a chicken .. brains, innards, even eyeballs...but, sure as shoot'n it's ALL chicken!

    Ever since I heard about this 'process' .. I don't want to even drive in their parking lot. Can't even think about it, without gagging.

    What does that have to do with it being healthy or not?
  • Jorra
    Jorra Posts: 3,338 Member
    A Toronto family has filed a $17.5 million lawsuit against McDonald's of Canada, alleging that nine-year-old Ayan Abdi Jama took a bite of a McDonald's hamburger containing the crushed head of a rat, "complete with eyes, teeth, nose and whiskers."

    The burger was cooked; the rat was not.
    And of course this was PROVEN in court? Sorry, but listening to news on some people who may be just trying to get some money is not the best way to make decisions.

    Even if that was true, it doesn't mean that the meat is "made" of rats or that is a common occurrence. It's just as likely for a rat to find its way into any restaurant or a home and get into some shenanigans.

    To answer the original question, of course you can eat fast food as part of a healthy diet. I lost the majority of my weight over this summer while working and eating at Burger King.
  • koosdel
    koosdel Posts: 3,317 Member
    I've heard bad things about the cyproterone McDonald's adds to the fries. I think I'll just stick with burger king.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    I've heard bad things about the cyproterone McDonald's adds to the fries. I think I'll just stick with burger king.

    But that's still fast food and hence, EVIL!! :wink: :laugh:
  • Jorra
    Jorra Posts: 3,338 Member
    I've heard bad things about the cyproterone McDonald's adds to the fries. I think I'll just stick with burger king.

    But that's still fast food and hence, EVIL!! :wink: :laugh:

    Does that make me evil? :flowerforyou:
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/
    So I guess that people like myself that eat "garbage" don't have better health than someone like you who eats much better?
    I've eaten it for over 40 years. I must be really dumb.<eye roll>
    To me people who judge how others eat, especially when for some reason they got overweight on "healthier choices", have to get off that high horse.

    LOL...40 years ninerbuff? How are you even still alive? You obviously cannot think for yourself and have no control over your appetite and actions.

    Joking. :smile:

    I really am amazed at the contempt expressed for those of us who choose to indulge in fast-food. :frown:
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    I've heard bad things about the cyproterone McDonald's adds to the fries. I think I'll just stick with burger king.

    But that's still fast food and hence, EVIL!! :wink: :laugh:

    Does that make me evil? :flowerforyou:

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  • Vermilla
    Vermilla Posts: 348
    I didn't read all of this, just browsed the first page but I know these two things:

    1) It's great it's being done for a cause but there are really better ways to show one's support and work for a cause than purposely poisoning the body.

    2) There are some "good" foods at McDonald's (I'm utterly addicted to their brocolli and cheese soup!) but it really isn't just about the calories. That's only one part of it. Even if the one doing this kept the calories low, it's also the type of food, and that type of food is greasy, fattening, and extremely unhealthy and it will affect her body in a lot of negative ways, even if the calorie count is okay.

    Fast food is just that - fast food. It's not good, it's not healthy, so really priorities have to be set here. Is the WAY the support is being done worth it? I'm not saying she shouldn't support the cause. I admire that, but personally, I think the way it's being done isn't going to help anybody, especially her.
  • Elzecat
    Elzecat Posts: 2,916 Member
    I've heard bad things about the cyproterone McDonald's adds to the fries. I think I'll just stick with burger king.

    But that's still fast food and hence, EVIL!! :wink: :laugh:

    Does that make me evil? :flowerforyou:

    rst126.gif

    if nothing else...I learned a new word: "cyproterone." Yay for Google.
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/
    So I guess that people like myself that eat "garbage" don't have better health than someone like you who eats much better?
    I've eaten it for over 40 years. I must be really dumb.<eye roll>
    To me people who judge how others eat, especially when for some reason they got overweight on "healthier choices", have to get off that high horse.


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    I don't personally eat fast food of any kind. I don't particularly like the way it tastes anymore (though I did when I was younger) and the last time I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago) it didn't sit well in my tummy. Plus, I figure if I'm going to use 1000 calories on a meal - I'm gonna get the most bang for my buck (give me steak, crab legs, and cake). I personally don't care if other people choose to consume it - it isn't my place to tell someone else what to eat or not to eat.

    What bugs me is when people who do eat fast food decide to judge those of us who don't. I am not a perfect eater by any stretch and I enjoy my share of "processed" food - it just so happens that I don't enjoy fast food.

    If you wanna eat it, go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. But, just remember that some of us simply do not like how it tastes or makes us feel and there's NOTHING wrong with us not wanting to eat it either.
  • We live very rural Kansas, so you have to do some driving just to get near a McDs. We eat mostly foods that are made from scratch, no chemicals. The last time I ate at the arches not only was I physically sick, but had messed up my digestive system for days. I'll pass on all the chemicals and preservatives, thank you.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/
    So I guess that people like myself that eat "garbage" don't have better health than someone like you who eats much better?
    I've eaten it for over 40 years. I must be really dumb.<eye roll>
    To me people who judge how others eat, especially when for some reason they got overweight on "healthier choices", have to get off that high horse.


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    I don't personally eat fast food of any kind. I don't particularly like the way it tastes anymore (though I did when I was younger) and the last time I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago) it didn't sit well in my tummy. Plus, I figure if I'm going to use 1000 calories on a meal - I'm gonna get the most bang for my buck (give me steak, crab legs, and cake). I personally don't care if other people choose to consume it - it isn't my place to tell someone else what to eat or not to eat.

    What bugs me is when people who do eat fast food decide to judge those of us who don't. I am not a perfect eater by any stretch and I enjoy my share of "processed" food - it just so happens that I don't enjoy fast food.

    If you wanna eat it, go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. But, just remember that some of us simply do not like how it tastes or makes us feel and there's NOTHING wrong with us not wanting to eat it either.

    I don't mind at all if someone prefers not to eat it. I don't find that anyone says there's anything wrong with you folk that choose not to. It's the other way around on these threads. Usually the people that never eat fast foods are the ones that come on here and tell us we're eating "garbage" and "poison" and I find that offensive. Not talking about you here, you didn't do that, just talking about others..
  • fit4mom
    fit4mom Posts: 1,352 Member
    Ok it's been posed to me that my title was miss leading. The statement of don't judge a book by it's cover comes to mind. If you read my post you'd understand that I have nothing against personal opinion, I'd just appreciate some positive response toward the goal of this amazing woman. You come here post opinion totally based on the title without reading the info. Title is just that title. I don't mind if you comment toward the title but also appreciate the effort someone is giving toward furthering good will toward others. At least if nothing else acknowledge it. I know that for a fact (as I have experienced) titles have been made for much less worthy stories in the news. It's not just about the title but the story as well. If it weren't for a title you'd not pick up the book to begin with and the story generally makes the title as it is. Not angry just frustrated that her good will is being overlooked in this thread if not down played. It's sad to me because people come here for encouragement and the majority are on here in this feed overlooking the goodwill done.
  • DevanEve
    DevanEve Posts: 130
    Wouldn't that still do some damage to your insides though? I guess it all depends on what she eats...

    You can watch the film Supersize Me. It'll show his health condition when it's all done.
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    Ok it's been posed to me that my title was miss leading. The statement of don't judge a book by it's cover comes to mind. If you read my post you'd understand that I have nothing against personal opinion, I'd just appreciate some positive response toward the goal of this amazing woman. You come here post opinion totally based on the title without reading the info. Title is just that title. I don't mind if you comment toward the title but also appreciate the effort someone is giving toward furthering good will toward others. At least if nothing else acknowledge it. I know that for a fact (as I have experienced) titles have been made for much less worthy stories in the news. It's not just about the title but the story as well. If it weren't for a title you'd not pick up the book to begin with and the story generally makes the title as it is. Not angry just frustrated that her good will is being overlooked in this thread if not down played. It's sad to me because people come here for encouragement and the majority are on here in this feed overlooking the goodwill done.

    I don't think anyone would argue against the fact that she's definitely helping a worthy cause! :) Good for her!!
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/
    So I guess that people like myself that eat "garbage" don't have better health than someone like you who eats much better?
    I've eaten it for over 40 years. I must be really dumb.<eye roll>
    To me people who judge how others eat, especially when for some reason they got overweight on "healthier choices", have to get off that high horse.


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    I don't personally eat fast food of any kind. I don't particularly like the way it tastes anymore (though I did when I was younger) and the last time I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago) it didn't sit well in my tummy. Plus, I figure if I'm going to use 1000 calories on a meal - I'm gonna get the most bang for my buck (give me steak, crab legs, and cake). I personally don't care if other people choose to consume it - it isn't my place to tell someone else what to eat or not to eat.

    What bugs me is when people who do eat fast food decide to judge those of us who don't. I am not a perfect eater by any stretch and I enjoy my share of "processed" food - it just so happens that I don't enjoy fast food.

    If you wanna eat it, go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. But, just remember that some of us simply do not like how it tastes or makes us feel and there's NOTHING wrong with us not wanting to eat it either.

    I don't mind at all if someone prefers not to eat it. I don't find that anyone says there's anything wrong with you folk that choose not to. It's the other way around on these threads. Usually the people that never eat fast foods are the ones that come on here and tell us we're eating "garbage" and "poison" and I find that offensive. Not talking about you here, you didn't do that, just talking about others..

    For me, it is more about how it makes me feel and how I don't enjoy the taste of it than anything else. I used to eat fast food all the time and the last time I got it? I was so sick feeling from it that I just quit eating it cold turkey (this was before I was focused on losing weight too). I just didn't like how it made me feel and I was disappointed in the quality of the food.

    I haven't eaten it since. We all have our "vices" - some of us eat fast food, some like expensive coffee and some of us like sweets or chips or whatever. We all decide what we want to spend our calories on each day. For me, I don't want to spend it on something that makes me feel ill. I'd much prefer another piece of cake or other sugary treat (lol). Is it garbage? Or poison? No. Moderation is key, people. Have whatever you like - just EAT IT MODERATION.
  • i_love_vinegar
    i_love_vinegar Posts: 2,092 Member
    i can. i usually eat quite healthy (except for candy and mcdonalds haha), and have a very easy time maintaining. my problem is losing, but as soon as i hit my goal weight, mcdonalds will be back in my heart (or arteries) :love:
  • livnlite
    livnlite Posts: 520
    What amazes me is people are still buying into the entire "McDonalds is poison and unhealthy" bit. Let's do an example shall we:

    Example:

    One middle aged man (we'll call him Bob) has been eating 3 meals a day of nothing but McDonalds cheeseburgers and fries for the past 3 months, but is eating a calorie deficit and is losing weight at 1-2 lbs per week and he is exercising 3-4 times a week.

    versus

    One middle aged man (we'll call him Fred) has been eating 3 meals a day everyday for the past 3 months composed of whole foods but is eating a calorie surplus, doesn't exercise, and sits on the couch all day long.

    Which of these two men is the unhealthy one?

    Healthy and unhealthy is relative to how the body functions...not entirely JUST what some eats or JUST physical activity ... so the answer to your question quite possibly could be Both or Neither. One could have heart disease, or diabetes or both...or any number of ailments that would compromise their level of 'health'.

    The quality of foods and exercise, coupled with quantity with enhance or deplete the level of 'health' .. it doesn't define it.

    No one can deny that improving one's diet and exercise regime can improve anything from digestion, to metabolism to rid the body of impurities like cholesterol (for instance) to quality of sleep. All these factors will affect the level of health.
  • livnlite
    livnlite Posts: 520
    , Exactly. It is supposed to be a lifestyle and mindset change. Eat McDonnell's wel then can you drink or smoke. McDonnell's is pure garbage. What is in their meat??Rats? The chicken isn't real.
    I haven't cooked in years , now to be healthy and lose weight I am cooking, measuring weighing my food. I am exercising, and educating myself on nutrition. To me if you cannot give up McDonnell's, you are not ready and looking for the easy way out/

    Maybe the meat at McDonnell's is made from rats.

    Not sure about McDonald's though. Pretty sure it's chicken.

    If they say it's chicken .. it HAS to be chicken. A friend watched a documentary on it one time .. when they 'brewed' up the meat for their chicken mcnuggets. They grind all the meat up, press them into forms and bread them with a breading mixture. Oh, by the way .. they use chicken alright .. EVERYpart of a chicken .. brains, innards, even eyeballs...but, sure as shoot'n it's ALL chicken!

    Ever since I heard about this 'process' .. I don't want to even drive in their parking lot. Can't even think about it, without gagging.

    What does that have to do with it being healthy or not?

    The comment was refering to post about the type of meat ... I thought that was quite obvious. Thus the quote included with the post .... including the comment ... 'chicken isn't real'.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    I didn't read all of this, just browsed the first page but I know these two things:

    1) It's great it's being done for a cause but there are really better ways to show one's support and work for a cause than purposely poisoning the body.

    2) There are some "good" foods at McDonald's (I'm utterly addicted to their brocolli and cheese soup!) but it really isn't just about the calories. That's only one part of it. Even if the one doing this kept the calories low, it's also the type of food, and that type of food is greasy, fattening, and extremely unhealthy and it will affect her body in a lot of negative ways, even if the calorie count is okay.

    Fast food is just that - fast food. It's not good, it's not healthy, so really priorities have to be set here. Is the WAY the support is being done worth it? I'm not saying she shouldn't support the cause. I admire that, but personally, I think the way it's being done isn't going to help anybody, especially her.
    McDonald's supports many programs the Olympics and Ronald McDonald House being the biggest two. If you didn't read the WHOLE thread, you'd see that there isn't any clinical proof that having fast food in your diet is detrimental to your health.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    I don't personally eat fast food of any kind. I don't particularly like the way it tastes anymore (though I did when I was younger) and the last time I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago) it didn't sit well in my tummy. Plus, I figure if I'm going to use 1000 calories on a meal - I'm gonna get the most bang for my buck (give me steak, crab legs, and cake). I personally don't care if other people choose to consume it - it isn't my place to tell someone else what to eat or not to eat.

    What bugs me is when people who do eat fast food decide to judge those of us who don't. I am not a perfect eater by any stretch and I enjoy my share of "processed" food - it just so happens that I don't enjoy fast food.

    If you wanna eat it, go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. But, just remember that some of us simply do not like how it tastes or makes us feel and there's NOTHING wrong with us not wanting to eat it either.
    My point was that it's not the fast food eaters JUDGING the "healthy" eaters choices, it's the other way around. To say that fast food is "garbage" is a slap in the face of those that like to have it as part of their diet. We fast fooders don't say "Eating asparagus makes you pee smell (which it does) and anyone that does it is gross" to spite the "healthy eaters". If someone doesn't like fast food, then that's fine, but don't say it's garbage on a public forum where MANY people do have it as part of their diet. You will find that they will refute.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member


    You can watch the film Supersize Me. It'll show his health condition when it's all done.
    Meh. I bet if the did the same thing the "health condition" would be totally different. Like I said, I've had McDonalds' for over 40 years in my diet.


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  • CouchSpud
    CouchSpud Posts: 557 Member
    There's fast food and then there's fast food. First, it's a really good thing she is doing but I personally would have run a marathon or something ^^
    Second, if you eat supersized meals every day, you gonna be fat and unhealthy no matter what. Even McD now has healthy options.
    Now I personally don't like the Mc anyway, I always have had an aversion against chips and things that have been killed and throuroughly drowened in lots of fat - but that's me. I prefer stuff made from scratch any day. Or stuff with lots of sald and fresh veg in it.

    By the way, subways is fastfood as well, a salad is fast food, a doner kebab is fast food.... Fast food is not a term for crappy food, it's a term for food that is done easily, fast and convenient to take along with you

    @ninerbuff: there is no proof that it is good for your health to incorperate McD into your diet either...
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member

    Second, if you eat supersized meals every day, you gonna be fat and unhealthy no matter what. Even McD now has healthy options.

    so if you eat a supersized meal everyday yet still maintained a consistent caloric deficit, you'd still get fat?
  • catshark209
    catshark209 Posts: 1,133 Member
    I used to eat McDonalds every single day. Literally. No joke, every day of life. Mostly fries. I never got past 125lbs BUT God knows how much damage was on the inside.
    I still have it every once in a while, again, just fries. I love my taters.
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