Pregnant and smoking
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I think I take issue with the fact that she claims that some people just don't handle stress... What are you doing having a child if you can't handle stress? It's a stupid excuse.0
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I think I take issue with the fact that she claims that some people just don't handle stress... What are you doing having a child if you can't handle stress? It's a stupid excuse.
good call!0 -
My cousin quit cold turkey but when she went to her pre-natal the doctor was worried b/c her bp was rising so quickly and was wondering why. My cousin informed her ob that she had a lot of stress and usually smoked to help her remain calm. Her ob told her to have just one when the stress came on because the high bp was worse for her pregnancy than the cigarette.0
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Sooo... thoughts?
I was a smoker both times I got pregnant. When I found I was pregnant, quit cold turkey.
I have had some friends smoke less while pregnant but still continues to do so.
In a discussion with a friend, she stated that someone who is pregnant and smokes is not selfish. I had to disagree.. to which she blew up that some people just can't handle stress, blah blah blah. And, again I had to say.. yeah.. but its still selfish.. LOL
Sorry in advance for all the preggo smokers I just offended. :flowersforyourbaby:
You mentioned that you stopped smoking with BOTH Pregnancies...WHAT did You do in-between pregnancies and NOW? Did You go BACK to smoking? Look, it is great that you stopped while you were pregnant; But let's face it, You can't "Braq" or be judgmental.
What about SECOND Hand Smoke around your kids? What about the example you are setting for your kids? My Sister did the Same thing you did...Stopped smoking while pregnant. BUT NOW, even I can't stay in a room when she smokes, I refuse to, but the kids have no choice. ALSO, one of her kids IMITATES her smoking, all he wants to do when he is old enough (old enough to hide what he is doing) is Smoke. So you may feel "self righteous" but second hand smoke and example you set may be just as bad!
Ohh I missed this! YES!
*ahem*
I smoked for years before I got pregnant and was already cutting back while we were trying to get pregnant the first time. Being overweight and a smoker.. I thought it would help fertility and took less effort than working out
I quit all together when I was pregnant with my daughter and stayed smoke free after she was born until she was about 14 months. Then I was laid off my job. Stressed, and frankly bored in a horrible economy.. I began smoking again. Not as heavy as I was years before by far. But nonetheless smoking.
*steps up on soapbox*
I have never once smoked in the house or in the car with my child. We (my husband and I both smoked) smoked outside only. All weather permitting. Thank you very effing much.
*steps off soapbox*
NOW... when I became pregnant with my son, I was more of a social smoker. Smoking really only when out with friends and drinking...which being a responsible parent was NOT regularly.. (again thank you very much) So it was quite easy to quit when I found i was pregnant the second time.
I ALSO stopped taking an antidepressant and anxiety meds at the same time. Pregnant, non smoking, depressed, anxious and on the brink of divorce (totally long story for another day)
So yes, I do think its selfish to smoke while pregnant. If you are that stressed you can't help but smoke... take a effing walk, take a bath, vent to a friend, go to a damn psychatrist and find ways to stop your triggers and coping mechanisisms. But don't try and tell me how horrible of a parent I might be because I smoked when I WASN'T pregnant and never smoked in front of my kids. Want to try another angle of calling me a bad parent.. I dare you. :flowerforyou:0 -
You can't "Braq" or be judgmental.
Oh, and I don't know if you are trying to make a play on Barack or telling me I am bragging.. but either way, it doesn't make sense.
and I am not being "judgmental"
Perhaps I am being a bit judgemental though. Did you know there is an ignore button? Feel free to use it.0 -
Do you know that that's true, or do you assume that to be true?Any stress on the baby can't be worse than the effects of smoking on the developing baby.
I'm asking without snark. I don't know that I buy that line, TBH. I haven't seen scientific evidence supporting it, I've only seen people assume it. It may be true, I'm just asking, b/c it seems like one of those common internet assumptions, but I'm not certain it's real.
If we are talking about being addicted to nicotine, there are smokeless ways to wean yourself, and subsequently the baby away from the need for nicotine.
I can only speak from experience, we both smoked, both got pregnant at the same time, I quit, she didn't. My baby was born at a higher birth weight and to term, hers was born premature and low birth weight with years of ear infections and stuff.
I am not a doctor, but I am happy with the choice I made to quit.0 -
Sooo... thoughts?
I was a smoker both times I got pregnant. When I found I was pregnant, quit cold turkey.
I have had some friends smoke less while pregnant but still continues to do so.
In a discussion with a friend, she stated that someone who is pregnant and smokes is not selfish. I had to disagree.. to which she blew up that some people just can't handle stress, blah blah blah. And, again I had to say.. yeah.. but its still selfish.. LOL
Sorry in advance for all the preggo smokers I just offended. :flowersforyourbaby:
You mentioned that you stopped smoking with BOTH Pregnancies...WHAT did You do in-between pregnancies and NOW? Did You go BACK to smoking? Look, it is great that you stopped while you were pregnant; But let's face it, You can't "Braq" or be judgmental.
What about SECOND Hand Smoke around your kids? What about the example you are setting for your kids? My Sister did the Same thing you did...Stopped smoking while pregnant. BUT NOW, even I can't stay in a room when she smokes, I refuse to, but the kids have no choice. ALSO, one of her kids IMITATES her smoking, all he wants to do when he is old enough (old enough to hide what he is doing) is Smoke. So you may feel "self righteous" but second hand smoke and example you set may be just as bad!
Ohh I missed this! YES!
*ahem*
I smoked for years before I got pregnant and was already cutting back while we were trying to get pregnant the first time. Being overweight and a smoker.. I thought it would help fertility and took less effort than working out I quit all together when I was pregnant with my daughter and stayed smoke free after she was born until she was about 14 months. Then I was laid off my job. Stressed, and frankly bored in a horrible economy.. I began smoking again. Not as heavy as I was years before by far. But nonetheless smoking.
*steps up on soapbox*
I have never once smoked in the house or in the car with my child. We (my husband and I both smoked) smoked outside only. All weather permitting. Thank you very effing much.
*steps off soapbox*
NOW... when I became pregnant with my son, I was more of a social smoker. Smoking really only when out with friends and drinking...which being a responsible parent was NOT regularly.. (again thank you very much) So it was quite easy to quit when I found i was pregnant the second time.
I ALSO stopped taking an antidepressant and anxiety meds at the same time. Pregnant, non smoking, depressed, anxious and on the brink of divorce (totally long story for another day)
So yes, I do think its selfish to smoke while pregnant. If you are that stressed you can't help but smoke... take a effing walk, take a bath, vent to a friend, go to a damn psychatrist and find ways to stop your triggers and coping mechanisisms. But don't try and tell me how horrible of a parent I might be because I smoked when I WASN'T pregnant and never smoked in front of my kids. Want to try another angle of calling me a bad parent.. I dare you. :flowerforyou:
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?0 -
Do you know that that's true, or do you assume that to be true?Any stress on the baby can't be worse than the effects of smoking on the developing baby.
I'm asking without snark. I don't know that I buy that line, TBH. I haven't seen scientific evidence supporting it, I've only seen people assume it. It may be true, I'm just asking, b/c it seems like one of those common internet assumptions, but I'm not certain it's real.
If we are talking about being addicted to nicotine, there are smokeless ways to wean yourself, and subsequently the baby away from the need for nicotine.
I can only speak from experience, we both smoked, both got pregnant at the same time, I quit, she didn't. My baby was born at a higher birth weight and to term, hers was born premature and low birth weight with years of ear infections and stuff.
I am not a doctor, but I am happy with the choice I made to quit.
Yes! THe EGo! The smokeless cigarette.0 -
Sooo... thoughts?
I was a smoker both times I got pregnant. When I found I was pregnant, quit cold turkey.
I have had some friends smoke less while pregnant but still continues to do so.
In a discussion with a friend, she stated that someone who is pregnant and smokes is not selfish. I had to disagree.. to which she blew up that some people just can't handle stress, blah blah blah. And, again I had to say.. yeah.. but its still selfish.. LOL
Sorry in advance for all the preggo smokers I just offended. :flowersforyourbaby:
You mentioned that you stopped smoking with BOTH Pregnancies...WHAT did You do in-between pregnancies and NOW? Did You go BACK to smoking? Look, it is great that you stopped while you were pregnant; But let's face it, You can't "Braq" or be judgmental.
What about SECOND Hand Smoke around your kids? What about the example you are setting for your kids? My Sister did the Same thing you did...Stopped smoking while pregnant. BUT NOW, even I can't stay in a room when she smokes, I refuse to, but the kids have no choice. ALSO, one of her kids IMITATES her smoking, all he wants to do when he is old enough (old enough to hide what he is doing) is Smoke. So you may feel "self righteous" but second hand smoke and example you set may be just as bad!
Ohh I missed this! YES!
*ahem*
I smoked for years before I got pregnant and was already cutting back while we were trying to get pregnant the first time. Being overweight and a smoker.. I thought it would help fertility and took less effort than working out I quit all together when I was pregnant with my daughter and stayed smoke free after she was born until she was about 14 months. Then I was laid off my job. Stressed, and frankly bored in a horrible economy.. I began smoking again. Not as heavy as I was years before by far. But nonetheless smoking.
*steps up on soapbox*
I have never once smoked in the house or in the car with my child. We (my husband and I both smoked) smoked outside only. All weather permitting. Thank you very effing much.
*steps off soapbox*
NOW... when I became pregnant with my son, I was more of a social smoker. Smoking really only when out with friends and drinking...which being a responsible parent was NOT regularly.. (again thank you very much) So it was quite easy to quit when I found i was pregnant the second time.
I ALSO stopped taking an antidepressant and anxiety meds at the same time. Pregnant, non smoking, depressed, anxious and on the brink of divorce (totally long story for another day)
So yes, I do think its selfish to smoke while pregnant. If you are that stressed you can't help but smoke... take a effing walk, take a bath, vent to a friend, go to a damn psychatrist and find ways to stop your triggers and coping mechanisisms. But don't try and tell me how horrible of a parent I might be because I smoked when I WASN'T pregnant and never smoked in front of my kids. Want to try another angle of calling me a bad parent.. I dare you. :flowerforyou:
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?
A) its called washing your hands and
she already explained why she started smoking again... Re-read her response. We'll wait. :flowerforyou: 0 -
Sooo... thoughts?
I was a smoker both times I got pregnant. When I found I was pregnant, quit cold turkey.
I have had some friends smoke less while pregnant but still continues to do so.
In a discussion with a friend, she stated that someone who is pregnant and smokes is not selfish. I had to disagree.. to which she blew up that some people just can't handle stress, blah blah blah. And, again I had to say.. yeah.. but its still selfish.. LOL
Sorry in advance for all the preggo smokers I just offended. :flowersforyourbaby:
You mentioned that you stopped smoking with BOTH Pregnancies...WHAT did You do in-between pregnancies and NOW? Did You go BACK to smoking? Look, it is great that you stopped while you were pregnant; But let's face it, You can't "Braq" or be judgmental.
What about SECOND Hand Smoke around your kids? What about the example you are setting for your kids? My Sister did the Same thing you did...Stopped smoking while pregnant. BUT NOW, even I can't stay in a room when she smokes, I refuse to, but the kids have no choice. ALSO, one of her kids IMITATES her smoking, all he wants to do when he is old enough (old enough to hide what he is doing) is Smoke. So you may feel "self righteous" but second hand smoke and example you set may be just as bad!
Ohh I missed this! YES!
*ahem*
I smoked for years before I got pregnant and was already cutting back while we were trying to get pregnant the first time. Being overweight and a smoker.. I thought it would help fertility and took less effort than working out I quit all together when I was pregnant with my daughter and stayed smoke free after she was born until she was about 14 months. Then I was laid off my job. Stressed, and frankly bored in a horrible economy.. I began smoking again. Not as heavy as I was years before by far. But nonetheless smoking.
*steps up on soapbox*
I have never once smoked in the house or in the car with my child. We (my husband and I both smoked) smoked outside only. All weather permitting. Thank you very effing much.
*steps off soapbox*
NOW... when I became pregnant with my son, I was more of a social smoker. Smoking really only when out with friends and drinking...which being a responsible parent was NOT regularly.. (again thank you very much) So it was quite easy to quit when I found i was pregnant the second time.
I ALSO stopped taking an antidepressant and anxiety meds at the same time. Pregnant, non smoking, depressed, anxious and on the brink of divorce (totally long story for another day)
So yes, I do think its selfish to smoke while pregnant. If you are that stressed you can't help but smoke... take a effing walk, take a bath, vent to a friend, go to a damn psychatrist and find ways to stop your triggers and coping mechanisisms. But don't try and tell me how horrible of a parent I might be because I smoked when I WASN'T pregnant and never smoked in front of my kids. Want to try another angle of calling me a bad parent.. I dare you. :flowerforyou:
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?
Apparently you missed the part where I said I was laid off, bored and stressed.0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.
Ok, this is in all honesty JUST A FUNNY, but this from the person who serves processed foods to her kids? Badabing! Come on, you KNOW that was funny. :laugh:0 -
What you said is logical, just not pertinent to the discussion. We are talking about individuals, not the entire race.
So, as long as someone isn't jeopardizing the human race as a whole, the practice is acceptable? Super logic.All I'm saying is that obviously people have been having babies for thousands of years.
For some of those years, im sure women were smoking and drinking while carrying a child.
And yet we're still here...
I'm not taking sides. I'm not voicing my opinion pro or con. Im stating facts.
And in response I to your sarcasm I leave you with Spock's dying words... "It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.
Ok, this is in all honetsly JUST A FUNNY, but this from the person who serves processed foods to her kids? Badabing! Come on, you KNOW that was funny. :laugh:
Annnnd I opt out of my own thread. I can't have a battle of wit with unarmed people.. its just so not fair!0 -
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?
There are some major cities with so much pollution it's actually worse on your health than smoking one butt a day.
3rd hand smoke will come off any smoker - not just the Moms - we can't live in bubbles - you wouldn't even know who they are. Quitting smoking isn't as easy for some as it is for others. If quitting strictly for the health of the baby but still wanting to, it's easy to fall back into it, especially if you are in the company of other smokers. I quit cold turkey... had a miscarriage... took up smoking again - a few a day, never was a heavy smoker but I'd been a light smoker for 25 years, the urge stays. If I get pregnant again will totally quit again. I never smoke indoors and would never smoke around children - but I still smoke a couple a day - and sometimes none a day, depends on the day. Nobody's perfect. I commend anyone who is able to quit. Bringing up 3rd hand smoke seems overly nitpicky to me.0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.
Ok, this is in all honesty JUST A FUNNY, but this from the person who serves processed foods to her kids? Badabing! Come on, you KNOW that was funny. :laugh:
ha, ha
What kids would these be? I don't serve processed foods to my kid. I never have. My son isn't even old enough to eat processed foods.0 -
You know what? I'm not really a judger on the "Mommy Wars." I'm just not.
Of course it's bad to smoke while pregnant. I never did (wasn't a smoker anyway). But I took other risks. Maybe worse risks. I got in my car, and QUITE LITERALLY risked my unborn children's lives most every day of each pregnancy. Sometimes I only did it for fun-- I wanted to go to the mall! Well, it could have killed them. Happens everyday. I would need a true scientific assessment to say that smoking is more or less dangerous to one's life than car travel...
I even still do it now. My kids are in carseats, & I drive safely, but tonight when I take them to Karate just for a "WANT" (not a "need"), we will be risking their lives in the car.
I also got the epidural (except the last time, when she came too fast, and weighed almost 10 lbs, but I digress), etc, etc, etc. Unless it's REALLY greivious, we're just all on the honor system to do the best WE can do. The best "you" can do isn't always the best everyone else can do. Maybe you ate lunch meat while you were pregnant. You have to try to be safe, but still live.
According to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids (www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0072.pdf), "Smoking kills more people than alcohol, AIDS, car accidents, illegal drugs, murders, and suicides combined."
So, there's your answer. I'm sure there's other studies that can support something like that, but that one was within the first handful of my Google search results for "cigarette smoking-related deaths versus deaths from car accidents."0 -
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?
There are some major cities with so much pollution it's actually worse on your health than smoking one butt a day.
3rd hand smoke will come off any smoker - not just the Moms - we can't live in bubbles - you wouldn't even know who they are. Quitting smoking isn't as easy for some as it is for others. If quitting strictly for the health of the baby but still wanting to, it's easy to fall back into it, especially if you are in the company of other smokers. I quit cold turkey... had a miscarriage... took up smoking again - a few a day, never was a heavy smoker but I'd been a light smoker for 25 years, the urge stays. If I get pregnant again will totally quit again. I never smoke indoors and would never smoke around children - but I still smoke a couple a day - and sometimes none a day, depends on the day. Nobody's perfect. I commend anyone who is able to quit. Bringing up 3rd hand smoke seems overly nitpicky to me.
and I doubt that your kids are hugging strangers and smelling their hair and clothes. If they are, that's your business and I don't really want to know about it.0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.
Ok, this is in all honesty JUST A FUNNY, but this from the person who serves processed foods to her kids? Badabing! Come on, you KNOW that was funny. :laugh:
ha, ha
What kids would these be? I don't serve processed foods to my kid. I never have. My son isn't even old enough to eat processed foods.
no Beefaroni for the little cutie?0 -
yeah, I don't even buy beefaroni. But I do work with low-income families who will go to the 10 for $10 sale and buy as much as they can.0
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yeah, I don't even buy beefaroni. But I do work with low-income families who will go to the 10 for $10 sale and buy as much as they can.
I wasn't knocking it, because I've been down on hard times for a long time myself. I was just pointing it out.
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My best friend continued smoking while she was pregnant. I once got up the gumption to ask her about it and she said her doctor actually recommended she NOT quit because quitting would put stress on her and the baby. O.o I'm not going to judge anyone else's decisions, even though I don't agree with it, but she keeps saying both of her kids "are healthy as a horse" when they were born, which to some degree is true. My goddaughter (that she smoked with) though, has had ear infections, lung/sinus/colds, coughs, etc., the entire 9 months she's been out of the womb and has been to the ER and doctor's office every single month. Of course if I brought up that it was maybe because she smoked while pregnant with her, I'd probably get *****ed at.
Is she still smoking? I think it has more to do with that. Kids that live in homes with smokers have more upper respiratory and ear issues.
Smoking during pregnancy is associated with low birth weight and an increased risk of SIDS.
Yep, she still smokes and I know it definitely is because of that too. My fiancee's daughter is 8 and also has horrible upper respiratory and sinus issues because when she lived with her mom, her mom chain smoked like nobody's business. When she comes home from being out with her mom, she reeks of smoke too. Sad thing is, she asks her mom to stop smoking all the time, but her mom won't.0 -
well, just because you didn't smoke in front or around your kids doesn't mean that they weren't exposed to the smoke. There is such a thing as third-hand smoke which is when the toxins/smoke smell is on your clothing, hair, skin, etc. I'm not saying that you are a bad parent. However, if smoking was so easy to stop while you were pregnant why did you start again?
There are some major cities with so much pollution it's actually worse on your health than smoking one butt a day.
3rd hand smoke will come off any smoker - not just the Moms - we can't live in bubbles - you wouldn't even know who they are. Quitting smoking isn't as easy for some as it is for others. If quitting strictly for the health of the baby but still wanting to, it's easy to fall back into it, especially if you are in the company of other smokers. I quit cold turkey... had a miscarriage... took up smoking again - a few a day, never was a heavy smoker but I'd been a light smoker for 25 years, the urge stays. If I get pregnant again will totally quit again. I never smoke indoors and would never smoke around children - but I still smoke a couple a day - and sometimes none a day, depends on the day. Nobody's perfect. I commend anyone who is able to quit. Bringing up 3rd hand smoke seems overly nitpicky to me.
and I doubt that your kids are hugging strangers and smelling their hair and clothes. If they are, that's your business and I don't really want to know about it.
3rd hand smoke= if your babysitter who lives at home parents smoke, but they don't.
If family members or your kids friends parents smoke outside the home
If a teacher/tutor/coach smokes
If a daycare worker smokes
If a Dr or school nurse smokes
The list goes on and on of people who could have contact with children exposing them to 3rd hand smoke.
They don't have to be strangers - and you probably don't even know they are smokers. Most people don't think I smoke when they meet me.0 -
Bringing up 3rd hand smoke seems overly nitpicky to me.
I've never been pregnant or smoked, but I grew up with every adult in my life smoking around me without abandon. I would have been thrilled to not have to bat away smoke everywhere but my own bedroom and not have asthma, or get stuck in cars with people smoking, etc, etc. I'm not saying my parents were bad in general because of this, but it would have saved us from having a lot of arguments when my brother and sister and I would ask them to at least go outside and they refused.
I tend to agree that 3rd hand smoke can't be much worse than pollution in some areas, and can't be worse than second hand smoke. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's still a better option in my opinion.0 -
yeah, I don't even buy beefaroni. But I do work with low-income families who will go to the 10 for $10 sale and buy as much as they can.
I wasn't knocking it, because I've been down on hard times for a long time myself. I was just pointing it out.
Bry, there is a big difference between Beefaroni and Chef's mini raviolis...mkay?:flowerforyou:
dammit.. I am not supposed to be in here! I opted out.. sigh... I blame you Bry.:smooched:0 -
yeah, I don't even buy beefaroni. But I do work with low-income families who will go to the 10 for $10 sale and buy as much as they can.
I wasn't knocking it, because I've been down on hard times for a long time myself. I was just pointing it out.
I know. I just wanted to remind you that it was an example, not something that I actually have to do at this point in my life and I'm thankful for that everyday.
That being said, I personally believe that smokers are some of the rudest people in the world. Most of them wouldn't even hesitate to light up with their kids in the car, blow smoke in your face, or my personal favorite stand in front of the door to the mall or an office building and blow smoke into the baby carriage as I attempt to enter.. Working with children who come from smokers homes is so difficult. They smell like smoke and they're sick all the time.0 -
Yeah, I read the response before. I was just wondering how you can judge others for being stressed when you did the same thing (granted you weren't pregnant, but how can you judge someone's situation when you don't know it).
Did you take a shower and change your clothes every time you came in from smoking? I ask because the toxins would have been in those things too.
Ok, this is in all honesty JUST A FUNNY, but this from the person who serves processed foods to her kids? Badabing! Come on, you KNOW that was funny. :laugh:
I can only speak from my own experience, but I’ve been hearing about the dangers of third hand smoke for a few years now. Of all the children in my family, mine is the only one who (as an infant) is not regularly around people who smoke. No one in my family smokes in their homes or cars (well, my grandparents did, but they’ve been dead for 7 years now), but most of them either currently smoke or have quite within the last 7 years (except my cousin whose mom is a heavy smoker and one of his primary babysitters). My child hasn’t been around the other family members regularly because they all live within a 10 mile radius in PA and I’m in NC, so that limits contact. Mine is the only one (out of 9) in his generation of my family who hasn’t had chronic ear infections, chronic sinus and other chronic respiratory infections, and/or had to have an in home nebulizer for any period of time (knock on wood). Maybe together my and DH’s genes are just that much more robust than the rest of the family, but I really think it really has a lot to do with exposure too.
I say this recognizing I would never tell my family that I think this, and fully acknowledging that it’s a controversial stand point that I have as a matter of opinion not as a matter of judgment. As an ex-heavy smoker I don’t judge people who choose to stand out in the weather and smoke, I fully understand the addiction and the draw.0 -
Bringing up 3rd hand smoke seems overly nitpicky to me.
I've never been pregnant or smoked, but I grew up with every adult in my life smoking around me without abandon. I would have been thrilled to not have to bat away smoke everywhere but my own bedroom and not have asthma, or get stuck in cars with people smoking, etc, etc. I'm not saying my parents were bad in general because of this, but it would have saved us from having a lot of arguments when my brother and sister and I would ask them to at least go outside and they refused.
I tend to agree that 3rd hand smoke can't be much worse than pollution in some areas, and can't be worse than second hand smoke. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's still a better option in my opinion.
I still think it's different when it's the people that you live with every day. But there's no point in arguing that point anymore.0 -
Actually, both times that I was pregnant, my doctor told me that it was better to cut back than to quit cold turkey. It is a shock to the system, and causes spikes in blood pressure to go cold turkey. Maybe try not being so judgmental since both my kids were born perfectly healthy and had no ill effects from it.0
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Sorry-- I didn't phrase that as I meant. That's an answer comparing smoking in the general population, and the long-term affects to smokers (& I assume second-hand smokers). I meant smoking as pertains to a pregnant woman, and the effects on her unborn child.You know what? I'm not really a judger on the "Mommy Wars." I'm just not.
Of course it's bad to smoke while pregnant. I never did (wasn't a smoker anyway). But I took other risks. Maybe worse risks. I got in my car, and QUITE LITERALLY risked my unborn children's lives most every day of each pregnancy. Sometimes I only did it for fun-- I wanted to go to the mall! Well, it could have killed them. Happens everyday. I would need a true scientific assessment to say that smoking is more or less dangerous to one's life than car travel...
I even still do it now. My kids are in carseats, & I drive safely, but tonight when I take them to Karate just for a "WANT" (not a "need"), we will be risking their lives in the car.
I also got the epidural (except the last time, when she came too fast, and weighed almost 10 lbs, but I digress), etc, etc, etc. Unless it's REALLY greivious, we're just all on the honor system to do the best WE can do. The best "you" can do isn't always the best everyone else can do. Maybe you ate lunch meat while you were pregnant. You have to try to be safe, but still live.
According to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids (www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0072.pdf), "Smoking kills more people than alcohol, AIDS, car accidents, illegal drugs, murders, and suicides combined."
So, there's your answer. I'm sure there's other studies that can support something like that, but that one was within the first handful of my Google search results for "cigarette smoking-related deaths versus deaths from car accidents."0
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