how honest should a MFP friend be?
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If people don't ask me, I assume they aren't looking for advice. The majority of us know when we aren't making good choices.
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I would definitely like to have an honest opinion about my dairy. I think we al have those days, but if it keeps continuing I would be honest and give some advice and suggestions0
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Caution: Might sound harsh, but honest is how I roll.
I would want someone to be honest with me, and by making my food diary public, I open myself to criticism and/or praise. That being said, I also delete people who I see constantly making bad choices, excuses for why they are off the wagon again, etc....I don't have time for excuses (I've made plenty myself in the past, but this time around I've had a mind-shift). I want to be supportive, but also don't want to constantly listen to I can't, I didn't, I won't, its too hard, its too early, etc., so I choose not to surround myself with those "friends". For me this place is a tool, not a social networking site, and if I don't agree with your methods or negative habits, I don't need you on my list.0 -
Sometimes my women friends on here get mad because I get on them for eating under 1100 calories and under 100g of carbs... they believe the less you eat the more weight you will lose and the less carbs the weight you will lose..... you will lose weight at first, but that weight is muscle and is not permanent... makes me sad to see people do that to their bodies.... I want to help them so I don't really care if they get mad at me
But this is the other end of the spectrum. The OP is asking about those who eat junk foods, not undereating.
I would strongly voice against anyone who starves themselves to lose weight, but I wouldn't feel the same if someone overate once or twice and/or ate junk food regularly. They're just two separate scenarios.0 -
Sometimes my women friends on here get mad because I get on them for eating under 1100 calories and under 100g of carbs... they believe the less you eat the more weight you will lose and the less carbs the weight you will lose..... you will lose weight at first, but that weight is muscle and is not permanent... makes me sad to see people do that to their bodies.... I want to help them so I don't really care if they get mad at me
I dont get mad at you!!
But I try my best to eat enough calories!0 -
I have logged crap food "McDonalds grilled chicken sandwich " but i was still under calories. Maybe they are doing portion size like me I can eat what I want as long as its in my calorie goal for the day.0
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People know they eat bad... From personal experience! Lol I wouldn't be mad if someone said something but I know just as well as them that I need to get my act together. It's just hard sometimes. Let it be.0
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i like mine brutal!0
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If they ask for advice I give it freely, if they don't I don't usual even look at their diary, because I can't keep my big mouth shut...
In light of my new favorite saying...
"You don't have to be perfect, you just have to be better"
one thing to consider is that even though over all it seems like bad food choices, it may be an improvement over what they were eating before even if it is just portions size.
If someone complains about being hungry I'll sometimes check their journal to see what they are eating, often it's too much sugar or artificial sweetened foods which both increase appetite. I have a definite sweet tooth, if I can cut back on sugar for 2 weeks a lot of the cravings go away and I feel more satisfied with what I do eat.0 -
I guess I should have added that they are young and I'm just not sure they have been getting the right information!! I don't want to judge anyone, I too have made poor choices, I just care so much for this person and I really am scared for them and the choices they are making, (donuts, pop, McDonalds, etc....) I appreciate all your comments and I will really think about it before I say anything!!!0
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If people don't ask me, I assume they aren't looking for advice. The majority of us know when we aren't making good choices.
Agreed.
But if the diary is public aren't you wanting people to look and give feedback, isn't that kinda the point of having it unlocked?0 -
okay I have not had this problem until now, I have lots of friends who make their food journal public, and I usually take a look just to see how their day went so I can support them or get good ideas, but what do you do when a person is making such bad choices???? I mean just junk.....do you say something, or keep it to yourself, I really know these people need friends too.....but I just don't know if I can sit by and say nothing!!! Advice?? Anyone??
context is key, depends on how much so called junk it is. what if they are hitting all their macros through whole foods and fit in some "junk" everyday?0 -
If they ask for advice I give it freely, if they don't I don't usual even look at their diary, because I can't keep my big mouth shut...
In light of my new favorite saying...
"You don't have to be perfect, you just have to be better"
one thing to consider is that even though over all it seems like bad food choices, it may be an improvement over what they were eating before even if it is just portions size.
If someone complains about being hungry I'll sometimes check their journal to see what they are eating, often it's too much sugar or artificial sweetened foods which both increase appetite. I have a definite sweet tooth, if I can cut back on sugar for 2 weeks a lot of the cravings go away and I feel more satisfied with what I do eat.0 -
A friend pointed out to me when I first began that I needed to eat more protein and not just look at calories. I was grateful and do much better in that aspect now.
Recently I pointed out to her that she has been low on calcium lately. She didn't notice and was grateful.
Just be kind, and mention a specific concern, rather than critiquing their whole diary. If they are receptive, be encouraging of gradual improvement. If they aren't, shrug and say no more...0 -
Sometimes my women friends on here get mad because I get on them for eating under 1100 calories and under 100g of carbs... they believe the less you eat the more weight you will lose and the less carbs the weight you will lose..... you will lose weight at first, but that weight is muscle and is not permanent... makes me sad to see people do that to their bodies.... I want to help them so I don't really care if they get mad at me
But this is the other end of the spectrum. The OP is asking about those who eat junk foods, not undereating.
I would strongly voice against anyone who starves themselves to lose weight, but I wouldn't feel the same if someone overate once or twice and/or ate junk food regularly. They're just two separate scenarios.0 -
I've had people ask me why or how i eat what I do to stay this size. Since I did not ask for advice, it irked me, because they didn't bother to see how small portions were. In my opinion, unless asked, its not our business. And, before anyone asks, my diary is open to friends, because people can get ideas from others diaries, and I find that helpful.0
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Is this every day or just once in a while?
This ^ because it depends on lots of things...
Do they know better?
Is it an off day?
Or is this a pattern they don't see?
This whole lifestyle change thing is a process, in other words, I have good days and bad days. I'm at the point now where I know it is a "bad" day, even though it's about 1,000 calories less than I used to eat without any exercise whatsoever.
So... get to know your mfp friends, and then you will know who needs encouragement and who needs a swift kick in the pants :laugh:0 -
well, what can you say? They logged it and ate it, so I'm sure they know that they're eating junk. But, I think it depends on the person. Some might be encouraged by some feedback, others might not want it. I would probably just not say anything.
Ohh, so if I wrote "nice food chioces *kitten*" that might be acceptable? Ok Thanks! LOL0 -
Sometimes my women friends on here get mad because I get on them for eating under 1100 calories and under 100g of carbs... they believe the less you eat the more weight you will lose and the less carbs the weight you will lose..... you will lose weight at first, but that weight is muscle and is not permanent... makes me sad to see people do that to their bodies.... I want to help them so I don't really care if they get mad at me
But this is the other end of the spectrum. The OP is asking about those who eat junk foods, not undereating.
I would strongly voice against anyone who starves themselves to lose weight, but I wouldn't feel the same if someone overate once or twice and/or ate junk food regularly. They're just two separate scenarios.
This. I think it's bizarre that people have no problem at all telling those they think are undereating or are too thin to eat more, but wouldn't dream of saying anything to someone eating too much or all the wrong things. I am happy to give advice if it's asked for, and I'd happily accept it from someone I invited into my life, but I keep my journal locked with a key so that I can moderate who sees it and whose advice I get. I figure anyone who leaves their diary totally open is totally willing to accept feedback from anyone who looks at it, and those who don't, would rather not have the advice.0 -
I struggle with this. I want to be a supportive friend. But it's hard to see day after day of high fat, high cal, high sugar and keep biting my tongue. I just want to say something simple like "it's not just the calorie number. it's what the calories are." But even that feels like a bridge too far. I don't have a clue what to say a year after joining.0
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