What counts as water?
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wa·ter [waw-ter, wot-er] Show IPA
noun
1. a transparent, odorless, tasteless liquid, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, H 2 O, freezing at 32°F or 0°C and boiling at 212°F or 100°C, that in a more or less impure state constitutes rain, oceans, lakes, rivers, etc.: it contains 11.188 percent hydrogen and 88.812 percent oxygen, by weight.
2. a special form or variety of this liquid, as rain.
3. Often, waters. this liquid in an impure state as obtained from a mineral spring: Last year we went to Marienbad for the waters.
4. the liquid content of a river, inlet, etc., with reference to its relative height, especially as dependent on tide: a difference of 20 feet between high and low water.
5. the surface of a stream, river, lake, ocean, etc.: above, below, or on the water.
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Sorry, you missed my 1st condition: liquid.
Before going into the blender wasn't liquid so it doesn't count.
I'd like to know how can you accurately measure the water from all the solids you eat daily. Just for the purpose of reaching the water daily goal.
The procedure must be really tedious but funny.......and this is where we end up every time this subject is brought up so I will go back to my former sarcastic reply , if it's not dehydrated then count it as water . Most fruits and vegetables are mostly water ( tomatoes are 94percent ) , many of which are more than 80percent . Meat , for the most part is greater than 50percent water .all this water in these foods count toward your daily needs for hydration so just save yourself time and energy , throw out all your cups and get your hydration from your food on a fork , it's all good !
All tell those Chiropractors to get a real job !
Or if you need to put it in a cup and pull it through a straw to feel like you are getting a liquid , a blender does wonders and you can still put it in a cup !0 -
I'm personally going for no. 5.:laugh:wa·ter [waw-ter, wot-er] Show IPA
noun
1. a transparent, odorless, tasteless liquid, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, H 2 O, freezing at 32°F or 0°C and boiling at 212°F or 100°C, that in a more or less impure state constitutes rain, oceans, lakes, rivers, etc.: it contains 11.188 percent hydrogen and 88.812 percent oxygen, by weight.
2. a special form or variety of this liquid, as rain.
3. Often, waters. this liquid in an impure state as obtained from a mineral spring: Last year we went to Marienbad for the waters.
4. the liquid content of a river, inlet, etc., with reference to its relative height, especially as dependent on tide: a difference of 20 feet between high and low water.
5. the surface of a stream, river, lake, ocean, etc.: above, below, or on the water.
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everything
YES EVERYTHING
except alcohol
cafeine does not dehydrates it's a myth
Caffeine is a diuretic. It will cause you to urinate more often as it does pull water from your body and form urine. This is a known fact about biochemistry. Alcohol is also a diuretic. Same effect. I wouldn't suggest counting tea towards since teas usually contain caffeine. Also, carbonated drinks should not be considered water since it contains carbonated water not plain water.
As for me, I only count water towards my daily totals.0 -
I'd like to know why you think it's that important to drink 8 cups of water a day? I get that if you're feeling thirsty and dehydrated you drink...but really, give me the benefits of doing this and try to use a reputable source...I'll be here waiting.Sorry, you missed my 1st condition: liquid.
Before going into the blender wasn't liquid so it doesn't count.
I'd like to know how can you accurately measure the water from all the solids you eat daily. Just for the purpose of reaching the water daily goal.
The procedure must be really tedious but funny.......and this is where we end up every time this subject is brought up so I will go back to my former sarcastic reply , if it's not dehydrated then count it as water . Most fruits and vegetables are mostly water ( tomatoes are 94percent ) , many of which are more than 80percent . Meat , for the most part is greater than 50percent water .all this water in these foods count toward your daily needs for hydration so just save yourself time and energy , throw out all your cups and get your hydration from your food on a fork , it's all good !
All tell those Chiropractors to get a real job !
Or if you need to put it in a cup and pull it through a straw to feel like you are getting a liquid , a blender does wonders and you can still put it in a cup !0 -
Apparently you've ignored the information in this thread, I don't know why it surprises me...clearly many of the posters haven't read the factual information and like to use anecdotes or 'what they think'.everything
YES EVERYTHING
except alcohol
cafeine does not dehydrates it's a myth
Caffeine is a diuretic. It will cause you to urinate more often as it does pull water from your body and form urine. This is a known fact about biochemistry. Alcohol is also a diuretic. Same effect. I wouldn't suggest counting tea towards since teas usually contain caffeine. Also, carbonated drinks should not be considered water since it contains carbonated water not plain water.
As for me, I only count water towards my daily totals.0 -
Sorry, you missed my 1st condition: liquid.
Before going to the blender wasn't liquid so it doesn't count.
I'd like to know how can you accurately measure the water from all the solids you eat daily. Just for the purpose of reaching the water daily goal.
The procedure must be really tedious but funny.......and this is where we end up every time this subject is brought up so I will go back to my former sarcastic reply , if it's not dehydrated then count it as water . Most fruits and vegetables are mostly water ( tomatoes are 94percent ) , many of which are more than 80percent . Meat , for the most part is greater than 50percent water .all this water in these foods count toward your daily
needs for hydration so just save yourself time and energy , throw out all your cups and get your hydration from your food on a fork , it's all good !
All tell those Chiropractors to get a real job !
Or if you need to put it in a cup and pull it through a straw to feel like you are getting a liquid , a blender does wonders and you can
still put it in a cup !
The blender just releases the water from whatever it is disguised as ( clever water can disguise itself as almost anything ) and don't let that solid thing fool you , it even goes incognito as ice sometimes .0 -
Google water and weight loss .0
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I only count water as water.
me too!0 -
Apparently you've ignored the information in this thread, I don't know why it surprises me...clearly many of the posters haven't read the factual information and like to use anecdotes or 'what they think'.everything
YES EVERYTHING
except alcohol
cafeine does not dehydrates it's a myth
Caffeine is a diuretic. It will cause you to urinate more often as it does pull water from your body and form urine. This is a known fact about biochemistry. Alcohol is also a diuretic. Same effect. I wouldn't suggest counting tea towards since teas usually contain caffeine. Also, carbonated drinks should not be considered water since it contains carbonated water not plain water.
As for me, I only count water towards my daily totals.
I wasn't using anecdotal evidence. I do have a degree in biology. This particular signal cascade was covered in biochemistry. Caffeine and alcohol are diuretics. However, will you become dehydrated because you counted two cups of coffee as part of your water intake? No. Are you going to suffer long-term health issues because you count the diet coke as part of your water intake? No. However, the caffeine and alcohol will cause an increase in urine production which does take more water out of your system than if you didn't have the caffeine or alcohol.
To answer the original poster's questions, honestly, in the big picture... it doesn't matter if you count the tea or Crystal Light in you daily water. It's not going to make that big of a difference. Personally, I only count water.0 -
Apparently you've ignored the information in this thread, I don't know why it surprises me...clearly many of the posters haven't read the factual information and like to use anecdotes or 'what they think'.everything
YES EVERYTHING
except alcohol
cafeine does not dehydrates it's a myth
Caffeine is a diuretic. It will cause you to urinate more often as it does pull water from your body and form urine. This is a known fact about biochemistry. Alcohol is also a diuretic. Same effect. I wouldn't suggest counting tea towards since teas usually contain caffeine. Also, carbonated drinks should not be considered water since it contains carbonated water not plain water.
As for me, I only count water towards my daily totals.
I wasn't using anecdotal evidence. I do have a degree in biology. This particular signal cascade was covered in biochemistry. Caffeine and alcohol are diuretics. However, will you become dehydrated because you counted two cups of coffee as part of your water intake? No. Are you going to suffer long-term health issues because you count the diet coke as part of your water intake? No. However, the caffeine and alcohol will cause an increase in urine production which does take more water out of your system than if you didn't have the caffeine or alcohol.
To answer the original poster's questions, honestly, in the big picture... it doesn't matter if you count the tea or Crystal Light in you daily water. It's not going to make that big of a difference. Personally, I only count water.
But the water it takes out is far, far outweighed by the water in the tea/coffee, thats the point.0 -
Actually yes, chiropractors are real doctors.
You don't need a PhD to be a chiropractor. Some may have them, those would be Doctors, even if it's not medical. But for the most part, chiropractors are not doctors.
you dont need a PhD to be a medical doctor either
But you DO need a doctorate degree. An MD is a doctoral level degree in medicine, just as a PharmD is a doctoral degree in pharmacy. You don't need a doctoral degree in anything to be a chiropractor. Chiropractic is pseudoscience. BTW, I live in the birthplace of chiropractic--it was invented here. We have more chiropractors per capita than anywhere else in the world. Chiropractors get virtually no hands-on training in school, and DO get "marketing" training. No medical school in the US teaches "marketing."
Oh, MY! I kinda hate to side-track this discussion but I have met three other people with virtually the same back injury I had several years back. And, in fact, mine was worse because more discs were effected. They all went to doctors and orthopedic surgeons for treatment. They all had surgery. They are all in constant pain, live on painkillers, and one has had to have another surgery and another is having another surgery soon. All of them have restricted movement and are prohibited from doing many activities either by prescription or because of the pain those activities cause.
I chose to have my injury treated with chiropractic care, massage, a few cranial-sacral treatments, and by doing exercises prescribed by my chiropractor. I have zero pain, zero loss of movement, and zero restrictions on what I can do.
I realize this is only anecdotal but I can assure you chiropractors aren't quacks and it's not pseudoscience.0 -
Basically all liquids (besides alcohol) count. So, water, tea, juice, milk, etc, etc, etc
Seriously? I don't know where you got that from, but pretty sure juice and milk definitely don't count as water...
Tea and coffee, maybe. Adding Crystal Light is fine, if you want all that unnatural stuff in your body, and it would still count as water, but for the most part, I think water is the only thing that counts as water.
Tea is water with leaves soaked in it. How is that "unnatural?"
Milk, juice, coffee and tea are all just water with a TINY amount of "something else" in them. The water itself is unadulterated as these are not even solutions, just colloidal suspensions--particles floating in the water. It is unscientific nonsense to suggest that mixing the "stuff" in the water BEFORE you drink it is any different than mixing it up in your belly AFTER you drink it. If mixing something in meant it wasn't still water, the only water that would count would be water you drank when you stomach was COMPLETELY empty. If yo've eaten, the food will mix with the water and it won't count anymore.
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First of all there is no scientific proof of 8 glasses of water a day is a magic number to significantly effect health or weight loss. That is not to say that you shouldn't stay hydrated! If you feel thirsty, you should drink some water or an other beverage. Our bodies are amazing machine well equipped to maintain themselves if we learn to listen and trust in them. Secondly, ANY beverage (except maybe alcohol) counts towards your water intake, while some may be healthier choices than others. The information below was directly copied and pasted from mayoclinic.com
Question
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.
Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.0 -
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Basically all liquids (besides alcohol) count. So, water, tea, juice, milk, etc, etc, etc
This is correct.0 -
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Bump.
Why? There's tons of threads on this, and new ones every week...0 -
Because I'm new, I haven't seen any recently, and this is the one that popped up when I searched for the topic. But at least I searched and found one instead of creating another.Bump.
Why? There's tons of threads on this, and new ones every week...0 -
Pure hydrogen dioxide....h2o.... Refrigerator pee.0
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I count tea and water in my own measurements, even though there is some water in coffee, juice, etc. I just get worried that the actual water is a little hard to measure in other liquids, especially pulpy orange juice. I'm not sure if it makes a huge difference, but it's just how I measure. I also like drinking tea, because it is great for the metabolism without having to add milk to it to taste great. I try to drink as much plain water as possible.
Oh, and also if I used a specific amount of water for the soup I make, I count that, too.0 -
http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp
8 glasses a day myth is from 6 decades ago. Foods count toward the 8-glass intake. Take a cup of dry white rice, to cook it takes 2 cups of water. So you eat the resultant 2 cups of rice, of course that water enters your body. You don't eat rice dry.0 -
Thanks for that article. It is very interesting.0
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Water counts as water, nothing else.
If you want to flavor your water a bit, cut a lemon and squeeze half of it into a glass of water, but still have many, many glasses of pure water daily.0 -
Hey guys! Quick question, couldn't find anything related easily when I searched. My coworker and I were discussing how much water we drink the other day and I was telling her it was hard for me to just drink regular water, so I use Crystal light and tea. She responded that these things don't count as going toward your 8 glasses daily and only strictly water does! What do you guys think??
water is water - anything else added to it is no longer water.0 -
Hey guys! Quick question, couldn't find anything related easily when I searched. My coworker and I were discussing how much water we drink the other day and I was telling her it was hard for me to just drink regular water, so I use Crystal light and tea. She responded that these things don't count as going toward your 8 glasses daily and only strictly water does! What do you guys think??
water is water - anything else added to it is no longer water.
So what's that liquid stuff in my glass when i add a touch of flavour to it? Is it bacon now?
Here we go again!
You need the equivalent of 8 cups of water a day on average, from any source. These sources can be pure water/tea/coffee/juice/soda/milk/fruit/veg etc. It does NOT have to be pure neat water!
http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/13/myth-eight-glasses-water-day
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/07/wellness-water-8x8-myth.html
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2010/12/08/the-myth-behind-drinking-8-glasses-of-water-a-day/
As for tea/coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.
di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
adj.
Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
n.
A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.
Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.
http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what
http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/
http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm
http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html
http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not
http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php
http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo0 -
Nutr Rev. 2010 Aug;68(8):439-58.
Water, hydration, and health.
Popkin BM, D'Anci KE, Rosenberg IH.
Source
Department of Nutrition, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 27516, USA. popkin@unc.edu
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-4887.2010.00304.x/full
"There is really no existing information to support an assumption that consumption of water alone or beverages containing water affects hydration differentially.3,105 Some epidemiological data suggest water might have different metabolic effects when consumed alone rather than as a component of caffeinated or flavored or sweetened beverages; however, these data are at best suggestive of an issue deserving further exploration.106,107 As shown below, the research of Ershow et al. indicates that beverages not consisting solely of water do contain less than 100% water."
Even food counts as water:
Data from the USDA national nutrient database for standard reference, release 21, as provided in Altman.126
Percentage Food item
100% Water
90–99% Fat-free milk, cantaloupe, strawberries, watermelon, lettuce, cabbage, celery, spinach, pickles, squash (cooked)
80–89% Fruit juice, yogurt, apples, grapes, oranges, carrots, broccoli (cooked), pears, pineapple
70–79% Bananas, avocados, cottage cheese, ricotta cheese, potato (baked), corn (cooked), shrimp
60–69% Pasta, legumes, salmon, ice cream, chicken breast
50–59% Ground beef, hot dogs, feta cheese, tenderloin steak (cooked)
40–49% Pizza
30–39% Cheddar cheese, bagels, bread
20–29% Pepperoni sausage, cake, biscuits
10–19% Butter, margarine, raisins
1–9% Walnuts, peanuts (dry roasted), chocolate chip cookies, crackers, cereals, pretzels, taco shells, peanut butter
0% Oils, sugars
I think my favorite forum post ever was (I apologize for not remembering the witty writer) "Did you ever hear about that guy that died from dehydration because he drank only coffee and diet coke? No... because it didn't happen"0 -
"I think my favorite forum post ever was (I apologize for not remembering the witty writer) "Did you ever hear about that guy that died from dehydration because he drank only coffee and diet coke? No... because it didn't happen" "
I love that!
I fall out on the 'all liquids count as water' side. They all have water as a primary ingredient. If you are having water with lemon/tea grounds/coffee/crystal light/etc...just count it as Water+X.0
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