Apple Cider Vinegar and Virgin Coconut Oil

LilacDreamer

Ok i've had 19 grams of coconut oil today (almost a tablespoon and a 1/2) and now my saturated fat is up to 29 grams - 17 of which came from the coconut oil. i'm freaking out...my saturated fat never goes above 10 (usually its around 5). i'm in the red (negatives) here on MFP for the first time. this is awful sabotage!

LilacDreamer

Ok i've had 19 grams of coconut oil today (almost a tablespoon and a 1/2) and now my saturated fat is up to 29 grams - 17 of which came from the coconut oil. i'm freaking out...my saturated fat never goes above 10 (usually its around 5). i'm in the red (negatives) here on MFP for the first time. this is awful sabotage!

help?

rrametes

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LilacDreamer

Can anyone help me? I've had 19 grams of coconut oil today (almost a tablespoon and a 1/2) and now my saturated fat is up to 29 grams - 17 of which came from the coconut oil.

i'm freaking out...my saturated fat never goes above 10 (usually its around 5). i'm in the red (negatives) here on MFP for the first time. this is awful sabotage!

Amazon_Who

Don't laugh but I keep a small bowl of Coconut oil in my kitchen cupboard and every time i open the cupboard I rub some on my 47 year old forehead wrinkles :laugh:

It is great for your skin! It is one of the few things my rosacea prone skin never reacts to.

Curvy1taliana

I use organic, unfiltered apple cider vinegar (you want it with the "mother" in it) daily in salads and cook my eggs in organic raw coconut oil.
As you can see... I am doing pretty well!

penroseg

I have heard horror stories about what acv can do to your teeth. I'd rather slow my weight loss than destroy my teeth. I am going to go to the health food store and see if you can buy a good version of it in a pill. Anyone tried acv in pill form?

jrbanta

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Shannon2714

Can anyone help me? I've had 19 grams of coconut oil today (almost a tablespoon and a 1/2) and now my saturated fat is up to 29 grams - 17 of which came from the coconut oil.

i'm freaking out...my saturated fat never goes above 10 (usually its around 5). i'm in the red (negatives) here on MFP for the first time. this is awful sabotage!

First, take a deep breath and calm down. The fats from things like coconut oil and evoo are healthy fats and are not going o throw off your plan that much. The only numbers I care about if they go over are Calories and sodium.

barefoot76

Interesting thread. The theory behind apple cider vinegar helping with thyroid and allergies is that it helps to restore alkalinity to your blood stream. What that likely means is that the remainder of one's diet is not alkaline enough (most likely too many processed foods and carbs and not enough raw foods).

When I'm experiencing a lot of belly bloat, my first line of action is to look at common culprits like wheat, dairy, soy, etc. When I cut those things out of my diet last year, I stopped bloating, experienced greater energy, and dropped five lbs almost instantly (probably water weight since allergic inflammation causes us to hold excess water for healing). If I had taken ACV daily, I might have also experienced less bloating and water weight gain (since it is a diuretic), but in reality I would have been continuing to bombard my body with things it is allergic to, which would have still caused long-term problems for me.

I'm pretty critical of "clinical studies" and I rely heavily on anecdotal evidence when trying stuff like this, nonetheless, I do like to try to understand the science behind it, and I like to know side effects up front. Does anyone know of any studies which have more info? This was what I found:

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/applecidervinegardiet/a/applecidervineg.htm

ClubbT

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gldnlark

I just read some articles about the positives of Coconut oil and bought some to cook with a couple of weeks ago. So far, all I've noticed is my face breaking out. But I hear that's also a detox-thing when you add or subtract something significant from your diet. So I'm not planning on stopping, I'll just give it more time. I need to raise my good cholesterol levels.

Cider-vinegar? How bad could a teaspoon be in a glass-o-water? I'm going to go get me a glass right now! I didn't know it could help bad joints! I'm riddled with them!

Thank you for your report! I love this site!

pampowell5

Do either of these come in a pill form, if so do they work as well?

strongsteps

mmmmm... interesting.

dreamzvt

Very helpful thread!

Mummsy

LOVING the coconut oil. But HATING the ACV. That's some NASTY stuff. :noway:

dport7

Ok i've had 19 grams of coconut oil today (almost a tablespoon and a 1/2) and now my saturated fat is up to 29 grams - 17 of which came from the coconut oil. i'm freaking out...my saturated fat never goes above 10 (usually its around 5). i'm in the red (negatives) here on MFP for the first time. this is awful sabotage!

We cook with it sparingly, actually a little bit goes a long way, and like what was mentioned, the fats in coconut oil are considered good fat, like anything, in moderation and you'll be fine.for instance, one tbsp & 1/2 cup of popcorn, makes a tasty popcorn, just like movie theater pop corn. Don't stop using it!

NewLIFEstyle4ME

I purchased some the other day, because of all the great things I've been hearing about ACV. Being the type of person I am, I looked up the possible dangers of consuming ACV and wanted to post what i found here;

What Are the Dangers of Apple Cider Vinegar
Jul 31, 2011 | By Karyn Maier
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/506018-what-are-the-dangers-of-apple-cider-vinegar/#ixzz1nRbpUYb9

Apple cider vinegar has long been used as a folk remedy for dandruff and sunburn. This product of fermentation is also touted to help you lose weight and ease arthritis pain, health claims yet to be substantiated by science. However, there are known but less publicized dangers associated with the long-term use of apple cider vinegar, especially if you have a history of esophageal disease, gastric ulcers or diabetes.

Hypokalemia

According to a Natural Standard review published in the July 2005 issue of the "International Journal of Naturopathic Medicine," the acetic acid content in apple cider vinegar may cause potassium depletion with long-term use. In an article published by Medscape.com in 2006, author Carol S. Johnston, a registered dietitian, described a case report in which a 28-year-old woman developed hypokalemia, a potentially life-threatening metabolic disorder that occurs when there is a significant decrease in serum levels of potassium. The woman reportedly consumed about 250 ml, or 8.45 oz. of vinegar every day for six years.

Blood Pressure Effects

The patient in the case report referenced in the Medscape.com article also suffered from hyperreninemia, according to the original report published in 1998. This means she had excessive levels of an enzyme produced by the kidneys called rennin, which is released to facilitate the eventual conversion of angiotensinogen to angiotensin II and the subsequent release of aldosterone from the adrenal glands. Because these agents are potent vasodilators, they restrict blood flow to the kidneys, which triggers the release of more rennin. In short, this cascade of events sets up a repetitive cycle that leads to long-term arterial high blood pressure.

Blood Sugar Effects

Studies show that including vinegar with a meal decreases glucose levels in healthy people and improves insulin resistance in people with type 2 diabetes due to delayed gastric emptying. However, a study published in the December 2007 issue of "BMC Gastroenterology" reports that apple cider vinegar increases the delaying effect in people with type 1 diabetes even further, making glucose management more difficult.

Throat and Stomach

Swallowing apple cider vinegar from a spoon or glass may irritate tissue in the esophagus and intestinal tract, although any damage is usually repaired within a few days. If you have a gastric ulcer, however, your immediate reaction might be akin to receiving lemon juice in a paper cut. Also, Dr. Keith Wrenn related a frightening real-life experience in the "Annals of Emergency Medicine" in 2006, in which his brother-in-law aspirated on vinegar from the cucumber salad served at dinner. After a severe coughing fit, he surrendered to laryngospasm and then vasovagal syncope. In other words, the man lost his breath and passed out. Fortunately, he regained consciousness a moment later and the situation resolved itself. This doesn't mean you should avoid cucumber or other vinegar-based salads, but be aware that the accidental inhalation of vinegar could duplicate this rare event.
References

* "Dr. Earl Mindell's Amazing Apple Cider Vinegar"; Earl Mindell, R.Ph., Ph,D.; 2002
* Natural Standard Review: Apple Cider Vinegar
* "Medscape General Medicine"; Vinegar: Medicinal Uses and Antiglycemic Effect: Safety of Vinegar; Carol S. Johnston, Ph.D., R.D., Cindy A. Gaas, B.S.; 2006


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/506018-what-are-the-dangers-of-apple-cider-vinegar/#ixzz1nRc4hxmX


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Dangers of apple cider vinegar. Weight Loss, Health Tips & Morning Rituals
http://www.awakeandliving.com/awake-living/apple-cider-vinegar/

With all the benefits and different uses of apple cider vinegar you must be prepared for some dangers if used incorrectly.

For instance, if you do use apple cider vinegar on the daily basis be careful of the following:

* Undiluted apple cider vinegar may damage the esphagus and other parts of the digestive tract.
* May damage your teeth and enamel if sipped.
* Excessive consumption has been linked with low blood potassium levels and low bone mineral density.
* Here's a no brainer, if your allergic to apples stay away from apple cider vinegar.
* Vinegar applied to the skin may cause scaring and burns.
* Excessive doses can cause damage to the stomach, duodenum and liver in animals.
* Could increase the toxicity of drugs such as Lanoxin (dogoxin), insulin, laxatives and diuretices such as Lasix (furosemide).

"The quality of apple cider vinegar tablets will vary. A 2005 study compared eight brands of apple cider vinegar supplements and found that the ingredients didn’t correspond with the ingredients listed on the packaging, and that the chemical analysis of the samples led researchers to question whether any of the products were actually apple cider vinegar or whether they were just acetic acid." WEBSITE

What I recommend is brushing your teeth before you drink the apple cider vinegar and brush immediately after. That way you can try to be more protective of the enamel on your teeth and help prevent teeth damage.

Other than that, use everything in moderation. Too much of any one thing isn't good for your health. There's many options out there optimal health. Explore them all and find what works best for your body and needs.

http://www.awakeandliving.com/awake-living/apple-cider-vinegar/

Kendrawinn

Hi,

I started reading this at work 10mins before leaving for home, and apparently I have ACV at home (Heinz brand). Can I use this, or does it have to be this Unfiltered with Mother type?

Thanks for the input.

It should be organic unfiltered with mother and unpasturized.

BProudOfU

what ever you do dont burp soon after drinking that glass of acv water. Some one might think you are a douche bag.

LOL!! :laugh:

Now THAT's funny!! LOL :laugh:

lac5454

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wendinbill

I'm a big fan of coconut oil. I have Lupus, and I've been told it helps fight inflammation. I like it in smoothies!

blondejillie

I have a fresh, unopened bottle of ACV unfiltered organic etc. Unfortunately, my aging grip isn't strong enough to open it. Too bad, cause if I drink it my arthritis could get better. Guess I'll have to call for a young, hot guy to help me out....
:smokin:

CoderGal

I have a fresh, unopened bottle of ACV unfiltered organic etc. Unfortunately, my aging grip isn't strong enough to open it. Too bad, cause if I drink it my arthritis could get better. Guess I'll have to call for a young, hot guy to help me out....
:smokin:

Lol worse then one of them plastic cutters thay require plastic cutters to open

delilah47

Vitacost has Bragg's Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar -- 32 fl oz for $4.45 and
Nutiva Certified Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil -- 54 fl oz - $24.41
Nutiva Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil -- 15 fl oz - $9.00

If you are a new customer you can take $10 of any $10 purchase.


http://www.vitacost.com/Referee?wlsrc=rsReferral&ReferralCode=90219113

I KNEW I was getting ripped off. I got my quart of Bragg's at my small local nutrition store and paid $6.99 for it.
Those *kitten*!!! (remembering Kenny)

delilah47

I am doing the ASV, Saigon Cinnamon, and bee pollen granules right now. Two times a day. Been doing this for almost 3 weeks and have noticed a HUGE change in my eating habits, my stomach, and NO MORE ACID REFLUX! Also, energy levels near superhuman levels!

12oz filtered water
1 heaping teaspoon bee pollen granules
1 Tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar with The Mother
1/2 teaspoon Saigon Cinnamon

Stir it for 30-45 seconds and let sit for 5 minutes to give it time to dissolve some. Stir for another 30-45 seconds then drink.

Does it taste great? No. Does it taste terrible? No. All I know is next week I get my cholesterol tested. It was at 191, we will see what it is next week!

A few years ago, I told my doctor I was going to try ACV to lower my cholesterol and triglycerides. He said, go ahead, but it won't work. And it didn't. I took it for nearly 6 months that time around. I am going to start again, hoping on hope it will help me drop some pounds and help with some other maladies I have developed. If you go to some of the homeopathic web sites there are all kinds of testimonials on ACV. If you can believe what they say, ACV cures literally everything! Oh, it did get rid of my heartburn and acid reflux almost immediately. This little voice in the back of my head.. if it sounds too good to be true.... :huh:

CailleachBeara

I take the coconut oil a couple of times a week and I use when I cook stir fries, it's adds a lovely flavour to Asian cooking.
I've never tried ACV but if it revs up your metabolism I'm interested, lol!

Sueboo31

Very interesting about the coconut oil helping your underactive thyroid. I was just diagnosed with this last month. I'll have to research this a little more.

I've only used ACV to treat sinus infections and it works like magic. Mix 8oz water with 2tbsp ACV and 1tbsp honey. I have also heard it's bad for you teeth but brushing your teeth with baking soda after drinking it helps.

noogie98

saving this to read for later ~ I drink Bragg's organic apple cider vinegar for leg cramps. Just started about a week ago & it seems to help! :drinker:

This is because of the potassium in the vinegar. If you track potassium in your diary and ensure that you get close to the daily recommended allowance, you should not have a problem with leg cramps anymore.

I wish it were that easy. I take potassium supplements daily in addition to a high potassium diet; I exceed the amount recommended daily. When I was hospitalized last year for diverticulitis, it was discovered that I have a potassium deficiency. While I was in the hospital they were giving me IV potassium & it kept blowing my veins to where I developed blood clots. I've had to track my daily intake and with all of the extra stuff I take, it still runs on the low side when I have blood work done. I have seen 4 different Dr's and not one of them can figure out why my levels are so low. I drink 2 tbsp of the Braggs 3 times a day, and it helps make the cramps less severe. I still have them, but they are not as bad as they were before drinking the vinegar.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm curious to know, has your condition led to hypertension?

No, although high blood pressure runs in my family, I have been very fortunate on that front. My BP usually runs about 120/70, even at my heaviest 60 lbs ago!

noogie98

I'm definitely curious to see if the ACV works! I just ordered a couple bottles from Puritan's Pride (raw, organic ACV). They're running a special right now where you buy 1 botttle, get 1 free for $5.99 and free shipping.

Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out...

http://www.puritan.com/apple-cider-vinegar-567/organic-apple-cider-vinegar-033771

DAMN! I wish I had seen this before! I ordered Braggs and it was about $12 just for shipping!

Not sure where you live, but I buy my Braggs at The Vitamin Shoppe and it's about $5 a bottle. :flowerforyou: