Here is what a competitive Bikini model winner looks like
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Same. I can really understand someone wanting implants or a lift after weight loss or having kids to restore what went missing. But I don't understand why someone who is being judged for being the epitome of health has to be surgically altered.
Body building is far from that and never claims to be. But then again, how many people here drink, smoke etc?
We all do things that aren't healthy. Its just body building is more obvious because you can see it.
Body building isn't, but are body building competitions? I'm not being snarky... I'm honestly curious. I always assumed it was like dog shows, where they're looking for someone who best matches a physical ideal, with that ideal being someone in perfect health.
Except that dog shows are about choosing who's is closest to their breed standard, for breeding purposes. Find the best boy Pekingese so you can breed him with the best girl Pekingese. Pretty sure there's no stud fees involved with people.
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Matt, I have a question. Are implants required / necessary to do well in the upper levels of fitness competitions?
Not at all.
But then without and a smaller bust, as shown as people in this thread who type before they think, accuse people of looking like men.
That said, nothing wrong with implants. Loads and loads of people have them - why would body building women be any different?0 -
Oh, absolutely nothing wrong with implants. I just don't want them.0
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Oh, absolutely nothing wrong with implants. I just don't want them.
You're hot without them :smokin:0 -
Oh, absolutely nothing wrong with implants. I just don't want them.
You're hot without them :smokin:
Absolutely
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I am within the normal weight for my height and build, and I cannot imagine looking like that.
I don't think that being in bikini model shape is a realistic goal for most people -- especially those of us who are middle age and tend to hold onto belly fat, even when we are thin everywhere else. Instead of comparing how we look to photos of bikini models, I think it's much better to focus on being in the best shape we can be in for the gene set we inherited.
It is an attainable goal for anyone of any size or any age
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I think the problem with the fake boobs on some fitness competitors, is that they are just way too big for their frame. There is some sort of balance. Someone who is 10% body fat looks a little off with DD implants. There is a happy medium, but there seems to be some sentiment that bigger is better....0
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I think the problem with the fake boobs on some fitness competitors, is that they are just way too big for their frame. There is some sort of balance. Someone who is 10% body fat looks a little off with DD implants. There is a happy medium, but there seems to be some sentiment that bigger is better....
Again, same as the rest of the population then!0 -
I have no plans to get competitive, but I'm just wondering generally: Do all or most of the competitors have personal trainers? Or is there anyone who did it all on their own? I'm just wondering about the money factor -- like how much money one has to spend to look like that -- and how close can you get if you have a very low budget and very little time?
A friend of mine did competition a while back, and she had a trainer that she saw daily for 2 hours every day. Competing basically became a second job for her, except one where she had to fork over the cash instead of getting a salary ;-)0 -
Oh, and FWIW, she was tiny and totally flat chested and won a couple of competitions. I'm also flat-chested, and interested in being ripped, but I intentionally avoid most pec exercises because, well, I don't need them any flatter than they already are ;-)0
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Oh, and FWIW, she was tiny and totally flat chested and won a couple of competitions. I'm also flat-chested, and interested in being ripped, but I intentionally avoid most pec exercises because, well, I don't need them any flatter than they already are ;-)
Pec exercises increase pec cleavage. That's the only cleavage I've got! Sternum is sexy. 0 -
Oh, absolutely nothing wrong with implants. I just don't want them.
You're hot without them :smokin:
Absolutely
And thanks to both of you!0 -
I think the problem with the fake boobs on some fitness competitors, is that they are just way too big for their frame. There is some sort of balance. Someone who is 10% body fat looks a little off with DD implants. There is a happy medium, but there seems to be some sentiment that bigger is better....
Again, same as the rest of the population then!
Very true. This rule applies to everyone. I think it makes even less sense for fitness models/figure models/body builders to have them.0 -
I have no plans to get competitive, but I'm just wondering generally: Do all or most of the competitors have personal trainers? Or is there anyone who did it all on their own? I'm just wondering about the money factor -- like how much money one has to spend to look like that -- and how close can you get if you have a very low budget and very little time?
A friend of mine did competition a while back, and she had a trainer that she saw daily for 2 hours every day. Competing basically became a second job for her, except one where she had to fork over the cash instead of getting a salary ;-)
I worked with a Personal Trainer once a week for the 4 months I trained. I may or may not go back to having a trainer this time around. The other 5 days I worked out, I did it no more than an hour and a half each day and on my own.
How much to look like that? It depends, but the amount of food can add up, since you are eating more, but worth it to me. Timewise, not more than an hour and a half to 2 hours a day. I'm busy like everyone else, but I make it work, because I want it. There are plenty of nights I've either done or added to my workouts at night after my husband goes to bed, while I watch my dvr'd shows.0 -
You already know I find you stunning Bry. So wish I could train you for your next comp!my only beef with all of this is the damned implants. I'm really disappointed that the fitness community would be all praising what we can accomplish by the sweat of our own brow, except ladies have to get the boobs.
I think it's a fitness fail.
Not the girl- obviously she worked hard.
But the scene.
Maybe i'm wrong to think that when we are talking about body builders and fitness, we are talking about people who did it naturally? Or are we looking at people who took steroids, got lypo, implants, and that's how they got there?
I am pro lifting for women, btw. I'm actually REALLY into it.
I'm just totally disappointed that even in this world of praising health and the great accomplishments of mankind, we are still apparently requiring/expecting/or just plain normalizing the idea that for a strong fit woman to be sexy, she has to have fake boobs.
I'm with you. I'm not against fake boobs and what not, but for me personally, I'm keeping mine. This is a pic from my 1st ever competition, so please don't judge so harshly, but it is all natural me.
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There have been winners who have small boobs. Overall package is what counts.So would the judges pic a competitor with implants over one without if everything else is evenly matched? Now that would be wrong if that were to happen and thats why they are all getting implants.
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That's what I believe. If following the right training and eating and being disciplined enough, I believe ANY female (if they can physically handle the workouts) can achieve the conditioned look.I am within the normal weight for my height and build, and I cannot imagine looking like that.
I don't think that being in bikini model shape is a realistic goal for most people -- especially those of us who are middle age and tend to hold onto belly fat, even when we are thin everywhere else. Instead of comparing how we look to photos of bikini models, I think it's much better to focus on being in the best shape we can be in for the gene set we inherited.
It is an attainable goal for anyone of any size or any age
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Most of the higher competitive ones will usually have a trainer or training partner who is well schooled in competition prep.I have no plans to get competitive, but I'm just wondering generally: Do all or most of the competitors have personal trainers? Or is there anyone who did it all on their own? I'm just wondering about the money factor -- like how much money one has to spend to look like that -- and how close can you get if you have a very low budget and very little time?
A friend of mine did competition a while back, and she had a trainer that she saw daily for 2 hours every day. Competing basically became a second job for her, except one where she had to fork over the cash instead of getting a salary ;-)
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all i know is the chick in the original thread is simply gross looking0
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Ironically enough, I jumped from the board about MFPers being bullied to this one; the tables now turned. I know not all, but most members on this site are here because we are/were unhappy in some way about our bodies--it may be aesthetic, it may be health-related, whatever. Coming from personal experience, I know how painful it is for people to make comments about MY body, and seeing the response to the topic of bullying, a lot of other members on this site do too. Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions, and yes, they will differ. :flowerforyou: That being said, why and where is this hate coming from? I hate to play the "golden rule" card, but what if YOUR pictures were posted on the boards and the same comments were made?0
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I see a lot of opinion and speculation here about what it really takes. I would like to hear from successful bikini competitors and hear what they have to say. I think it'd be interesting to hear from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
I have a few friends here who I think could knock it out of the park because they have great definition and spend more time talking about why they train the way they do, encouraging others with sound advice free of bro/hoscience. (I won't embarrass them by outing them)
I have a feeling that they are on the right track and are better prepared than they think they are - but it'd be great to hear from successful and experienced ladies!
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Good thing we don't all have to agree with you.all i know is the chick in the original thread is simply gross looking
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I personally don't want to look like that but I very much admire her determination and self discipline! I congratulate her on her win!
Also, what is wrong with people? If you don't want to look like someone then that's fine but you do not need to go and bash them when clearly they have worked their *kitten* off to get where they are. Whether it's going from being morbidly obese to being overweight or being healthy to being a competitive bikini model winner, each deserves a round of applause! They worked hard to get there and need no bashing.
Lastly, I want fake boobies, although mine seem to be growing as I lose weight. Or maybe I'm imagining? :laugh:0 -
I have no plans to get competitive, but I'm just wondering generally: Do all or most of the competitors have personal trainers? Or is there anyone who did it all on their own? I'm just wondering about the money factor -- like how much money one has to spend to look like that -- and how close can you get if you have a very low budget and very little time?
A friend of mine did competition a while back, and she had a trainer that she saw daily for 2 hours every day. Competing basically became a second job for her, except one where she had to fork over the cash instead of getting a salary ;-)
I've always trained hard and managed to get in with people with the know at the top level and got it done for free. And so this is why I pass my training knowledge on... since I prep people I know my knowledge works, including women. I've had my ladies compete in the NABBA UK and NABBA Worlds. I do ok.0 -
I have no plans to get competitive, but I'm just wondering generally: Do all or most of the competitors have personal trainers? Or is there anyone who did it all on their own? I'm just wondering about the money factor -- like how much money one has to spend to look like that -- and how close can you get if you have a very low budget and very little time?
A friend of mine did competition a while back, and she had a trainer that she saw daily for 2 hours every day. Competing basically became a second job for her, except one where she had to fork over the cash instead of getting a salary ;-)
Very low budget? - possibly. It depends on what you include in that budget. My coach alone wasn't what I would consider expensive. I paid her a one time fee. But if you factor in supplements, some of which I am sure could be done without, food (although our food bills are lower since I started this), the suit ($$$), shoes, entrance fees, travel (for some), it is expensive. There are always ways to cut like borrowing a suit if you can or rent (although here, the suits I can rent are as expensive as some new ones I have seen).
Most I know at least have a coach, like I do. I send her progress pics, she sends me workouts and diets. She works at my gym so whenever I get a new program, we go over it to make sure I am doing it right, but I do all the workouts myself. I could pay extra for training sessions with her. She also does posing classes with a group, offers advice on everything and tons of support. I will say she was worth every penny. I am sure there are some who do it on their own, I just don't know any personally.
Little time - not possible. LIke your friend, this competition prep for me and the other girls I know is a second job. It isn't just the gym time, which is a considerable committment in itself especially the closer you get to contest, its getting enough sleep and the food. I am constantly cooking and eating (and cleaning for the next time I have to cook). I am very fortunate that I have a super supportive other half and he does a lot of it but we still spend a lot of time prepping food and cleaning up after it.
i have even booked time off work in order to get to the gym (I work 12 hour shifts and on Saturday and Sunday the gym opens after I start and closes before I am done).0 -
It's interesting to see what a bikini model looks like- is it attractive to me? No. Do I want to look like that? No. But I understand that's not what the poster was asking. I can appreciate her hard work and detirmination in getting that body, and wish I had that much dedication. The off season picures are more attractive to me, maybe because they are more "normal" to me (whatever normal means). There's no need for anybody to be rude when expressing their opinion about any of thse pictures though. It does upset me though when people call someone like Kelly Brook fat- she's a UK size 12 which is a US size 8- that is not big! People are making comments about what her body fat % is and how she's got fat hanging out of her bikini. Unless you have personally measured her body fat or been there whilst she's been having it done, you do not know what it is! I'm two dress sizes bigger than her so what am I super, super fat? I know this site is called my fitness pal, not my weight pal, but not everyone wants to lift heavy weights or get their body fat percentage really low. I do some weights, because I want to be fitter and stronger, but not what would be classed as heavy on here, and yes, I am lowering my body fat % but I'll just be happy for it to be in the healthy range. Can't people just let other people choose their own goals without criticising them for it? I'm sorry, but I think there's too many judgey people on here.0
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You already know I find you stunning Bry. So wish I could train you for your next comp!my only beef with all of this is the damned implants. I'm really disappointed that the fitness community would be all praising what we can accomplish by the sweat of our own brow, except ladies have to get the boobs.
I think it's a fitness fail.
Not the girl- obviously she worked hard.
But the scene.
Maybe i'm wrong to think that when we are talking about body builders and fitness, we are talking about people who did it naturally? Or are we looking at people who took steroids, got lypo, implants, and that's how they got there?
I am pro lifting for women, btw. I'm actually REALLY into it.
I'm just totally disappointed that even in this world of praising health and the great accomplishments of mankind, we are still apparently requiring/expecting/or just plain normalizing the idea that for a strong fit woman to be sexy, she has to have fake boobs.
I'm with you. I'm not against fake boobs and what not, but for me personally, I'm keeping mine. This is a pic from my 1st ever competition, so please don't judge so harshly, but it is all natural me.
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*sigh* I wish you could be my trainer, too.... I am seriously considering going about it without this time, or at least not the same one... and, thank you for all of your kind words and support. You've been a great friend!0 -
all i know is the chick in the original thread is simply gross looking
What would you think if someone said that about you? Would you find that acceptable? Probably not.0 -
all i know is the chick in the original thread is simply gross looking
Well, here's a question... why would you click on the thread, then? I think the title was pretty clear. What if all the ladies said that about your picture? That hardworking lady is someone's mom, daughter, sister, cousin, friend... At least say "It's not my taste, but I respect what she did to get there."0 -
Curious about something, how much BF% is cut gearing up for a competition? I wonder this because I recall dropping between 10-15 kilos to get into the under 100 matches for Judo, and I'm wondering if the weight loss is similar (I know the methods of cutting are probably vastly different than what I did, which was just water weight).
Alsoall i know is the chick in the original thread is simply gross looking
Really gave a lot to the conversation. The world is now a better place for the knowledge you've imparted upon us.0
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