violence against men?
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Double standard. It shouldn't be allowed either way.0
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Try real life - much worse. My boss got stabbed (yes stabbed) in an argument with his ex-wife and he got arrested.
The problem is, people like to see women as harmless but in todays world where they do everything equally, including drink, you get women acting like men.
Thats the problem I guess. These days, women act like men. Some need to learn to act like gentlemen. There is a big difference.0 -
Try real life - much worse. My boss got stabbed (yes stabbed) in argument with his ex-wife and he got arrested.
The problem is, people like to see women as harmless but in todays world where they do everything equally, including drink, you get women acting like men.
Thats the problem I guess. These days, women act like men. Some need to learn to act like gentlemen. There is a big difference.
i totally agree with this0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.0
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I don't think it's right either way around.
People see at as, if a woman hits a man, then he did something to deserve that. If it was the other way round though, there would be uproar and people would be saying "nobody deserves physical violence" You can't have it right for one but not the other.
Matt_Wild: Someone I used to work with had that before, although I think only his hand got cut, not a proper stabbing. He didn't get the police involved though, said there was no point since he's massive, and like 6 1/2 feet at least, whereas she was tiny so they probably wouldn't have taken it seriously. He just split up with her.0 -
Double-agree! Society now allows women to act like men (which some interpret as: acting as bad/rough as men can), which is fine, but it takes a lot more than that to be a real man (the good side of it, or gentleman).
i totally agree with thisTry real life - much worse. My boss got stabbed (yes stabbed) in argument with his ex-wife and he got arrested.
The problem is, people like to see women as harmless but in todays world where they do everything equally, including drink, you get women acting like men.
Thats the problem I guess. These days, women act like men. Some need to learn to act like gentlemen. There is a big difference.0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.
If someone did that to my daughter (if I had one) they would definitely come off worst in the long run.0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.
Nobody got in trouble for that fight?? What has to happen to get in trouble for fighting at schools? Death??0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.
Nobody got in trouble for that fight?? What has to happen to get in trouble for fighting at schools? Death??
If this were to happen in Ohio both parties would be charged and would go to court. This happened while my daughter was livnig with her father in Florida. I don't know how they do things there. To make it worse...her father didn't even get medical attention for her. He ignored the whole incident.0 -
I totally agree with everyone so far, but it goes farther than that! You have adult mom's going crazy for the twilight movie kids and justin beiber...and apparently, that's totally okay, but if you EVER saw a grown man at a Hannah Montana concert freaking out like the Twi-mom's do, he'd get arrested and labeled a pedofile. It's totally crazy!
Hang in there men - there ARE women out there who believe in TRUE equality... and pre-nups which are FAIR for both parties. Don't even get me started on Family Law...ooohhh can 'o worms!0 -
Double standards indeed.
Women can be just as violent as men and men should have the right to defend themselves.
It's not OK for a woman to abuse a man and physical violence in any form is abuse.0 -
ALL domestic violence is wrong, whether it's man on woman, woman on man, man on man, woman on woman, parent on child, child on parent...
Because of the way film and TV is, plus the whole "dinny be a lassie basher" thing, I think a lot of girls think they can get away with hitting guys. Like it's meant to be some kind of female empowermant thing, when really you're just being stupid and violent.
The excuse of hitting a man because they've ****ed you over or broken your heart or just generally been a douche bag is no excuse; if you cheated on a guy or screwed him over another way and he hit you you'd be screaming stalker/psycho/somestic assault.
I also think if a woman phsyically attacks a man he should have every right to defend himself - I mean it's easy for big buff guys to say they'd just restrain her, but for less powerful guys restraining can be too difficult, and to protect themselves they would need to get a bit rough.
OH - and when it comes to something like a slap, I mean a one off, fairly provoked slap, not something that happens multiple times, or over something irrational, I think the benefit of the doubt can be used once. But for both genders. I mean, seriously, if someone domestically assaults you, run, get the **** out, but a wee slap can maybe be forgiven depending on context. But it shouldn't be a double standard, either neither party should get away with it, or both should have the same level of understanding. The problem comes in is when it happens a second time.
I guess the only real difference is that, in general, men tend to be stronger than woman, and therefore can cause a lot more damage from a single hit than most women can.
Not that this makes any difference really, we just shouldn't hit each other, but I think this is why it's seen as more acceptable for women to hit men, or for women to hit women, or men to hit men, but never for men to hit women, the damage can be worse.
BIT OF A RAMBLE THERE.
Basically, stop htting each other, and stop making it look like it's ok for women and not men.
Plus I agree with the twiloght/hannah montanna poster - more double standards, middle aged woman dates a young hot man she's a cougar, middle aged man dates a young hot girl he's a letch.0 -
I totally agree with everyone so far, but it goes farther than that! You have adult mom's going crazy for the twilight movie kids and justin beiber...and apparently, that's totally okay, but if you EVER saw a grown man at a Hannah Montana concert freaking out like the Twi-mom's do, he'd get arrested and labeled a pedofile. It's totally crazy!
Hang in there men - there ARE women out there who believe in TRUE equality... and pre-nups which are FAIR for both parties. Don't even get me started on Family Law...ooohhh can 'o worms!
Agree!
I've only been a member on here since Jan but was a member of another calorie tracking site for years. It was full of sexist crap (in both directions) this was one of the posts that ended up in a big argument:
All three members were female. Now imagine a trio of men saying the same things. Please don;t get me wrong. I'm not trying to say that men do not currently or should be able to behave like this but that women who do (and I appreciate that not all DO) should try not to.
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Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:25PM
title: no more perving
The house across the road from me has a to let sign up. That means the 20 something lads Will be moving out. They are so fit and walk around half naked. Its lovely. One of them often waves as he knows what he's doing . I'm going to miss them.
Love <name removed> the perve xxx
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:25PM
Awh I'm so sorry for you! xx
<name removed>
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:26PM
Oh, that is a shame.
I love a good perv, me.
<name removed>
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:28PM
Condolences for your loss. That will be one sad day
<name removed>
no more perving
hahaha get some pics nefore they go then keep them on ya fridge just to rtemind ya lol wonder what ya get next some over weight suma wrestler haha
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I never understood the slapping thing myself. Seeing a woman slap a man on TV always made me uncomfortable because I would think "Why is it okay for her to do that, but it's not okay for him to do the same to her?"
I don't think it okay for a man to hit a woman unless he believes he is in some kind of danger. And I don't mean "Well, she hit me first." That's the logic of a 5-year-old. It's not just about keeping your hands to yourself; even if a man is not much bigger than the woman he's hitting, he is nearly always going to be significantly stronger than she is and can do more damage to her than he probably realizes. If it's possible to restrain her without actually hitting her, that is the more manly course of action.
But real women do not hit men, either, unless they are being attacked, their kids are being attacked, etc. Any woman who resorts to physical violence just because she's mad is mentally and emotionally unstable.0 -
I suspect it won`t be long before this thread devolves into an argument of some type but before that happens a couple of observations.
First is that no matter what anyone would like to tell themselves a typical male could cause a great deal more injury or harm to a lady by hitting her,does that make it okay for her to strike him...of course not but the typical consequences will be different.
Is there a double standard...sure,a slap has long been accepted in society as a way to put off a man being aggressive.
Regardless of whether that should be or not it is the case and not a reason any man should think it okay to strike a lady outside of very definite reasons to protect himself from true bodily harm.
One last thing about the equality issue and this probably won`t be popular with many.
It is human nature to want equality or even preference when it is to our benefit and not so much when it is not.
So it is with many ladies where equality means undoing real or perceived detriments based on sex but that seldom carries over to areas where complete gender equality would not be so pleasant a thing.0 -
The problem is most men don't strike out even tho they have in theory better strength and women tend to use implements (i've been ripped at with nails, beaten with my own neck chain, attacked with a smashed glass and had a wrought candle stick thrown at me). I bleed like anyone else, I'm not invincible!
You hear of all the men attacking women. I'd guess the number is similar both ways, its simply the fact female>male violence isn't reported (I didn't) so the numbers are unequal.0 -
I totally agree with everyone so far, but it goes farther than that! You have adult mom's going crazy for the twilight movie kids and justin beiber...and apparently, that's totally okay, but if you EVER saw a grown man at a Hannah Montana concert freaking out like the Twi-mom's do, he'd get arrested and labeled a pedofile. It's totally crazy!
Hang in there men - there ARE women out there who believe in TRUE equality... and pre-nups which are FAIR for both parties. Don't even get me started on Family Law...ooohhh can 'o worms!
Agree!
I've only been a member on here since Jan but was a member of another calorie tracking site for years. It was full of sexist crap (in both directions) this was one of the posts that ended up in a big argument:
All three members were female. Now imagine a trio of men saying the same things. Please don;t get me wrong. I'm not trying to say that men do not currently or should be able to behave like this but that women who do (and I appreciate that not all DO) should try not to.
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Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:25PM
title: no more perving
The house across the road from me has a to let sign up. That means the 20 something lads Will be moving out. They are so fit and walk around half naked. Its lovely. One of them often waves as he knows what he's doing . I'm going to miss them.
Love <name removed> the perve xxx
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:25PM
Awh I'm so sorry for you! xx
<name removed>
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:26PM
Oh, that is a shame.
I love a good perv, me.
<name removed>
Posted: Thu 1 Dec, 2:28PM
Condolences for your loss. That will be one sad day
<name removed>
no more perving
hahaha get some pics nefore they go then keep them on ya fridge just to rtemind ya lol wonder what ya get next some over weight suma wrestler haha) x
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That sort of behaviour in a women is such a turn off though. So desperate I wouldn't want to go near any of them.0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.
I agree with you. I always say that if Im willing to hit somebody is because I'm willing to get hit back. I dont like women who think they can hit, slap, or push men and men just have to stand there and take it. If you are willing to become violent then dont be shocked or expect pity when the other person becomes violent. Thats how I see it.0 -
Try real life - much worse. My boss got stabbed (yes stabbed) in an argument with his ex-wife and he got arrested.
The problem is, people like to see women as harmless but in todays world where they do everything equally, including drink, you get women acting like men.
Thats the problem I guess. These days, women act like men. Some need to learn to act like gentlemen. There is a big difference.
Well said!0 -
It shouldn't be okay for a woman to hit a man, but if a man hits a woman it's "wrong".
It's sexist when people say "men shouldn't hit women, it makes them less of a man" no it doesn't, if a woman hits you, you damn well hit her back. Same goes for the other way round.0 -
why is it "normal" for a woman to hit a man across the face in movies??
It's not normal. At least not in my world. I've never slapped a woman and a woman has never slapped me.
I have seen it. I think it's total cr*p that a woman should slap a guy in certain situations and think she should be allowed to get a way with it, because she's a woman. I'm not talking about self-defense situations; I'm referring to the drama queen. If you swing at a guy and get tagged, you had it coming.0 -
One more thing. I always remember my Uncle Jim telling me when I was very young -- "A young man should never stike a lady, but a woman that hits a man is no lady."0
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The problem is most men don't strike out even tho they have in theory better strength and women tend to use implements (i've been ripped at with nails, beaten with my own neck chain, attacked with a smashed glass and had a wrought candle stick thrown at me). I bleed like anyone else, I'm not invincible!
You hear of all the men attacking women. I'd guess the number is similar both ways, its simply the fact female>male violence isn't reported (I didn't) so the numbers are unequal.
This is true. Someone I know hit her husband with a frying pan - and someone else intervened because it got so bad. Her husband (now X husband) did nothing because she was like 90 pounds. Yes - if he defended himself he could have injured her BUT she was hitting him with a FRYING PAN - hard. Her X had every right to defend himself though he did not. Men may be stronger/more powerful than women - that doesn't mean they have to sit there and take it. Also - trying to restrain a crazy lady with a frying pan is a little difficult. If someone was attacking me with a weapon when I had none, I would use whatever means I had to make it stop or get away.0 -
Cause its lady like, as long as she gets her wrist action right, now spitting wouldnt be nice.0
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One more thing. I always remember my Uncle Jim telling me when I was very young -- "A young man should never stike a lady, but a woman that hits a man is no lady."
I like that quote!
Unless it's in self defense then just don't do it.0 -
I've seen and heard of more than one woman being arrested for domestic assault. And I've known girls to get suspended for bullying boys (physically). I think it depends on what state/area you live in and how "traditional" the culture is. Personally, I think any relationship in which people are fighting to that extent is abusive and dysfunctional.0
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In movies, we see women slap men when men hit on them or make inappropriate remarks. It's kind of a throwback to the "Gone with the Wind" days.why is it "normal" for a woman to hit a man across the face in movies??0 -
If a woman can hit then a man can also? I have seen cases of this. One of them involved my daughter. While in high school, a boy was calling her horrible names. So, she slapped him. He, then beat the crap out of her. Yes, she got the worse of the fight. Bloody nose, two black eyes, etc. Neither kid got in trouble for the fight. So, women need to learn that if they are going to get violent with anyone, they may be sorry.
Nobody got in trouble for that fight?? What has to happen to get in trouble for fighting at schools? Death??
From what I've seen this is VERY unusual. At the highschool I worked at, the students would get suspended for knocking books out of eachothers hands. Physical altercations ended up in the hands of the police with complaints filed. Most schools over react so as not to get sued. Haven't heard of one that allowed this to pass since the 80's. Some schools even react now if the altercation happens away from school grounds as long as both were students.0 -
Hit like a man, get hit like a man. I'm all about equality. A slap is fine but, if anyone hits you with a closed fist like a boxer then you have to defend yourself. Alot of women aren't "dainty little flowers" and can throw down with most men. I've met plenty of women I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. You ever seen those womens prison shows?0
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There's PLENTY of movies with men slapping woman across the face.
Goldfinger, Airplane! (personal favorite slap), The Godfather Pt II, Blazing Saddles...
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