violence against men?

stcar

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

yes, it sure is....for example, if a man grabbed you in a club while making a disgusting comment....he's getting a smack across the face and if a hit came flying back, well that's just gross.

chrishgt4

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I don't think he would be right to hit you back, but you're definitely out of line for slapping him.

He's out of line for groping you too, but what if you'd turned round and he was really hot, what would you have done then?

chanstriste13

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I don't think he would be right to hit you back, but you're definitely out of line for slapping him.

He's out of line for groping you too, but what if you'd turned round and he was really hot, what would you have done then?

just keep your hands off and you won't have to worry about it, cutie pie.

stcar

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I don't think he would be right to hit you back, but you're definitely out of line for slapping him.

He's out of line for groping you too, but what if you'd turned round and he was really hot, what would you have done then?

I would have slapped him across the face because that would instantly take him out of the "hot" category and into the "creepy pig" category.

chanstriste13

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I don't think he would be right to hit you back, but you're definitely out of line for slapping him.

He's out of line for groping you too, but what if you'd turned round and he was really hot, what would you have done then?

just keep your hands off and you won't have to worry about it, cutie pie.

and the implication that women would enjoy being groped by random hot men is just disturbing, by the way.

KimmieBrie

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I consider what you describe a type of physical assault in which case you have the right to defend yourself.
Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

chanstriste13

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion

So it's OK to smack someone in the face because simply because you think they are out of line?
Whether you're a man or woman, that's a piss poor excuse.

it depends on what 'out of line' means. i have had a couple of occassions when i was groped by unwelcome men. i don't feel that i was out of line when i slapped them in their faces.

I consider what you describe a type of physical assault in which case you have the right to defend yourself.
Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i can go with this. i wouldn't smack anyone just for saying something that pi$sed me off.

chanstriste13

Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i would love to know some statistics for men groping women vs. women groping men. that would be interesting to see.

ArroganceInStep

Dude! I wouldn't kick you in the head.... I'd punch you in the throat! lol
i can't kick you if you're that close to me anyway - I'm 6'1 fpr good's sake! I'm bendy, but not that bendy!
PS - truth? I prefer to straightup box - I like striking! But this is a better full body conditioning for me... and a lot of fun to train in!

The nice thing about my build is that I have basically no neck, especially if I'm fighting, so good luck with that. I train with a lot of TKD folks and it's obscene how high they can kick even if you're in close. I can stand and throw with the best of them, but I'm not a kicker, I like elbows much better. Coincidentally I'm probably not a kicker because it's too tiring and I'm lazier

men are such babies now a days. if a woman slaps a man across the face, they're usually out of line and if they hit that woman back, they're a poor excuse for a man in my opinion
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yes, it sure is....for example, if a man grabbed you in a club while making a disgusting comment....he's getting a smack across the face and if a hit came flying back, well that's just gross.

This annoys me. You assume that because a woman slapped or hit the guy that he deserves it. And then you call other guys who didn't necessarily do anything babies because they don't think being hit by anyone is appropriate? If you look at what people are saying here, it isn't that it's ok to hit women, or that being a d-bag to women is appropriate; they're saying it's ok to defend yourself. I established that I wouldn't hit a woman because of my own beliefs, but I know how to defend myself without striking.

What I really want to say isn't very nice so I'll stop because I'm a huge baby and couldn't handle a slap in the face from you.

DannyMussels

I've been known to enjoy a good smack across the face now and then.

When the mood is right.

AmberJslimsAWAY

Try real life - much worse. My boss got stabbed (yes stabbed) in argument with his ex-wife and he got arrested.
The problem is, people like to see women as harmless but in todays world where they do everything equally, including drink, you get women acting like men.
Thats the problem I guess. These days, women act like men. Some need to learn to act like gentlemen. There is a big difference.

i totally agree with this

Double-agree! Society now allows women to act like men (which some interpret as: acting as bad/rough as men can), which is fine, but it takes a lot more than that to be a real man (the good side of it, or gentleman).

Triple! I fully believe that if a woman hits a man, he has every right to hit her back.

ArroganceInStep

Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i would love to know some statistics for men groping women vs. women groping men. that would be interesting to see.

Ever been to a bar where a bachelorette party is going down (or any female exclusive get together where lots of booze is involved)? Obviously they aren't all like that just like not all men are pervs, and I'm not particularly hunky or anything; but it's happened to me a few times.

Tropical_Turtle

My theory is - if a woman hits a man, she better expect to be knocked out. It should not make a difference if you are a man or a woman hitting another. Either way it is unacceptable!

worej

I think in movies, etc. most of the women hitting men are slapping them in the face, not beating them. A slap in the face stings, but it doesn't result in serious injury or black eyes or broken bones or anything like that.

When you hear of a man hitting a woman, usually it is a beating, or a heavy punch, or something like that. Usually a man hitting a woman is much more serious than a woman hitting a man.

Yes, it's possible for a woman to throw a good punch, and it's possible for a man to slap someone else in a way that doesn't injure them, but that's not usually how it goes. Yes, it's wrong to hit people in general. But the way it's usually portrayed in movies, it's two completely different situations.

I don't really see this as a double standard.

chanstriste13

I think in movies, etc. most of the women hitting men are slapping them in the face, not beating them. A slap in the face stings, but it doesn't result in serious injury or black eyes or broken bones or anything like that.

When you hear of a man hitting a woman, usually it is a beating, or a heavy punch, or something like that. Usually a man hitting a woman is much more serious than a woman hitting a man.

Yes, it's possible for a woman to throw a good punch, and it's possible for a man to slap someone else in a way that doesn't injure them, but that's not usually how it goes. Yes, it's wrong to hit people in general. But the way it's usually portrayed in movies, it's two completely different situations.

I don't really see this as a double standard.

well said.

ArroganceInStep

I think in movies, etc. most of the women hitting men are slapping them in the face, not beating them. A slap in the face stings, but it doesn't result in serious injury or black eyes or broken bones or anything like that.

When you hear of a man hitting a woman, usually it is a beating, or a heavy punch, or something like that. Usually a man hitting a woman is much more serious than a woman hitting a man.

Yes, it's possible for a woman to throw a good punch, and it's possible for a man to slap someone else in a way that doesn't injure them, but that's not usually how it goes. Yes, it's wrong to hit people in general. But the way it's usually portrayed in movies, it's two completely different situations.

I don't really see this as a double standard.

Curiosity really, do you have a problem with a man slapping a woman then assuming it wouldn't cause serious injury? You said it's possible for a man to slap but not usually the case, so is the exception ok in your eyes?

worej

I think in movies, etc. most of the women hitting men are slapping them in the face, not beating them. A slap in the face stings, but it doesn't result in serious injury or black eyes or broken bones or anything like that.

When you hear of a man hitting a woman, usually it is a beating, or a heavy punch, or something like that. Usually a man hitting a woman is much more serious than a woman hitting a man.

Yes, it's possible for a woman to throw a good punch, and it's possible for a man to slap someone else in a way that doesn't injure them, but that's not usually how it goes. Yes, it's wrong to hit people in general. But the way it's usually portrayed in movies, it's two completely different situations.

I don't really see this as a double standard.

Curiosity really, do you have a problem with a man slapping a woman then assuming it wouldn't cause serious injury? You said it's possible for a man to slap but not usually the case, so is the exception ok in your eyes?

What are you asking me, if I advocate violence?

They're both violent behaviors, and I wouldn't advocate for either. However, in the grand scheme of things, the *typical* woman hitting a man is not as severe as the *typical* man hitting a woman. And if I slap a man, and he gives me a black eye in response, that's not appropriate, either. Maybe I shouldn't have slapped him, but I don't think that it gives the original victim a free license to beat the crap out of someone else, either, which seems to be what a lot of people here are implying.

This thread is so wildly offensive.

worej

why is it "normal" for a woman to hit a man across the face in movies??

In movies, we see women slap men when men hit on them or make inappropriate remarks. It's kind of a throwback to the "Gone with the Wind" days.

This is true too. It's a movie convention. It's like how people in movies never say a proper goodbye on the telephone, they just hang up when they're done talking. It's not really indicative of how much something happens, or how it's received, in real life. If someone just hung up on me the moment they were done talking in real life, I'd be a little offended, but it's totally normal in the movies.

ArroganceInStep

What are you asking me, if I advocate violence?

They're both violent behaviors, and I wouldn't advocate for either. However, in the grand scheme of things, the *typical* woman hitting a man is not as severe as the *typical* man hitting a woman. And if I slap a man, and he gives me a black eye in response, that's not appropriate, either. Maybe I shouldn't have slapped him, but I don't think that it gives the original victim a free license to beat the crap out of someone else, either, which seems to be what a lot of people here are implying.

This thread is so wildly offensive.

That wasn't what I was trying to imply at all, and I apologize if I offended you. My question was more along the lines of 'if a woman slaps a man unprovoked, do you see it as a reasonable response if he slaps her back with comparable force to what she used?' If this is upsetting you I will gladly drop it.

chanstriste13

Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i would love to know some statistics for men groping women vs. women groping men. that would be interesting to see.

Ever been to a bar where a bachelorette party is going down (or any female exclusive get together where lots of booze is involved)? Obviously they aren't all like that just like not all men are pervs, and I'm not particularly hunky or anything; but it's happened to me a few times.

oh, yeah, i've seen my share of wedding parties at a club. but i've seen way more men in various situations (clubs, offices, stores, etc) that have let their hands wander. if you look out for this kind of thing, it's amazing what you will see.

worej

What are you asking me, if I advocate violence?

They're both violent behaviors, and I wouldn't advocate for either. However, in the grand scheme of things, the *typical* woman hitting a man is not as severe as the *typical* man hitting a woman. And if I slap a man, and he gives me a black eye in response, that's not appropriate, either. Maybe I shouldn't have slapped him, but I don't think that it gives the original victim a free license to beat the crap out of someone else, either, which seems to be what a lot of people here are implying.

This thread is so wildly offensive.

That wasn't what I was trying to imply at all, and I apologize if I offended you. My question was more along the lines of 'if a woman slaps a man unprovoked, do you see it as a reasonable response if he slaps her back with comparable force to what she used?' If this is upsetting you I will gladly drop it.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but questions like that are usually asked with the intention of uncovering some kind of double standard.

I don't, however, see any reason to hit back unless it's self defense, and based on what I usually see when a woman slaps a man in the movies, he doesn't really need to defend himself. So it'd be pretty silly to do so. Whether or not she was right to hit him in the first place has nothing to do with whether or not it's right for him to hit her.

ArroganceInStep

oh, yeah, i've seen my share of wedding parties at a club. but i've seen way more men in various situations (clubs, offices, stores, etc) that have let their hands wander. if you look out for this kind of thing, it's amazing what you will see.

Totally agree with you, but it does happen the other way too

chanstriste13

oh, yeah, i've seen my share of wedding parties at a club. but i've seen way more men in various situations (clubs, offices, stores, etc) that have let their hands wander. if you look out for this kind of thing, it's amazing what you will see.

Totally agree with you, but it does happen the other way too

i suppose i would grope bradley cooper's bum. but then i'd run away really fast so he wouldn't slap my face!

ArroganceInStep

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but questions like that are usually asked with the intention of uncovering some kind of double standard.

I don't, however, see any reason to hit back unless it's self defense, and based on what I usually see when a woman slaps a man in the movies, he doesn't really need to defend himself. So it'd be pretty silly to do so. Whether or not she was right to hit him in the first place has nothing to do with whether or not it's right for him to hit her.

There are enough double standards and inequalities in both directions out there that I don't need to trick someone into giving one up .

I actually agree with your point of view personally (I don't think it's 'fair' but I also think a lot of things are unfair so I'm ok with that). From my interpretation of the other posts however, I read them as a 'response with comparable force' type of thing. I was curious as to your perspective if the cause and the response were equal is all. Again very sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention in any way.

worej

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but questions like that are usually asked with the intention of uncovering some kind of double standard.

I don't, however, see any reason to hit back unless it's self defense, and based on what I usually see when a woman slaps a man in the movies, he doesn't really need to defend himself. So it'd be pretty silly to do so. Whether or not she was right to hit him in the first place has nothing to do with whether or not it's right for him to hit her.

There are enough double standards and inequalities in both directions out there that I don't need to trick someone into giving one up .

I actually agree with your point of view personally (I don't think it's 'fair' but I also think a lot of things are unfair so I'm ok with that). From my interpretation of the other posts however, I read them as a 'response with comparable force' type of thing. I was curious as to your perspective if the cause and the response were equal is all. Again very sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention in any way.

Honestly, the thing I find offensive about this (the whole thread, not necessarily your response) is that it's a man vs. woman thing, and not an attacker vs. defender thing.

If a woman is attacking you, relentlessly, and won't stop, then yes, I hope you hit her hard enough to get her to stop. (But how often do you actually see that happening? It happens, but not nearly as often as the other way around.) Are you justified to hit her just as hard or just as many times as she hit you? Are you entitled? I don't think so. But I do hope you do enough to reasonably defend yourself, even if you are a man and she is a woman.

Same thing as if another man punches you in the bar. Whether your attacker is a man or a woman, I would expect the situation to be handled in the same way. I think it's stupid when two men have it out in a bar just because one started it and the other's ego won't allow him to stop before he throws just as many punches. I advocate self defense, but not retaliation.

I don't see how this is a man vs. woman thing at all. That's what offends me.

Matt_Wild

Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i would love to know some statistics for men groping women vs. women groping men. that would be interesting to see.

I've been groped WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more times than i've groped someone I don't know. Arms, chest, legs and nuts.

I'm normally too shocked to workout what just happened to react! :noway:

Cold_Steel

I dont know.... most movie slaps to a dudes face immediately results in sex.... see James Bond...

But in all seriousness Domestic Violence is not good unless both parties are willing and then it is just called "foreplay:"

I have gone to plenty of domestic violence calls in this state that the tide is turning. It use to be a sort of cliche that if its a domestic violence issue the guy is always getting cuffed, it is not always the case. Most departments arrest both parties in domestic violence cases and both get charged. If there is no evidence of violence against the woman the charges will be dropped on the guy and vice versa.

The best advice you can give any guy in a relationship is if you have one of those passionate woman types, just walk away. Dont grab, dont try to "stop them" form hitting them because your hands generally leave restrain bruises on their wrists and that is evidence. Just walk away... Dont slam doors... just walk away.

ArroganceInStep

Honestly, the thing I find offensive about this (the whole thread, not necessarily your response) is that it's a man vs. woman thing, and not an attacker vs. defender thing.

If a woman is attacking you, relentlessly, and won't stop, then yes, I hope you hit her hard enough to get her to stop. (But how often do you actually see that happening? It happens, but not nearly as often as the other way around.) Are you justified to hit her just as hard or just as many times as she hit you? Are you entitled? I don't think so. But I do hope you do enough to reasonably defend yourself, even if you are a man and she is a woman.

Same thing as if another man punches you in the bar. Whether your attacker is a man or a woman, I would expect the situation to be handled in the same way. I think it's stupid when two men have it out in a bar just because one started it and the other's ego won't allow him to stop before he throws just as many punches. I advocate self defense, but not retaliation.

I don't see how this is a man vs. woman thing at all. That's what offends me.

Well put, and a fair point.

chanstriste13

Same thing if a woman grabbed a mans kahuna. That's all physical... out of line non-physical doesn't justify a physical response.

i would love to know some statistics for men groping women vs. women groping men. that would be interesting to see.

I've been groped WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more times than i've groped someone I don't know. Arms, chest, legs and nuts.

I'm normally too shocked to workout what just happened to react! :noway:

i would still like to seem some stats. and shame on you for admitting to your groping habit! consider yourself slapped. :noway:

Matt_Wild

Are you justified to hit her just as hard or just as many times as she hit you? Are you entitled? I don't think so. But I do hope you do enough to reasonably defend yourself, even if you are a man and she is a woman.

You are a woman thug if you think a woman should be able to hit a man as often as she likes because she doesn't think she can hurt him. This is the outmoded view I find absolutely abhorrent. Being hit, slapped or punched hurts regardless of sex - and in my experience with the fairer sex it often involves using implements.

Furthermore, you don't actually realise that this isn't just physical, it is mental too. On top of this, you see, many women realise they have the law on their side and will tell this to you as they hit you and they'll tell you this and they tell you how they'll report you for attacking them. This is especially bad when you have a child involved and the father doesn't want to leave the child and stays for the child. How do I know this? My ex did this several times.

Even without the above, there should not be ANY reason a man nor woman strikes another and if they do, they should expect the full extent of the law to be carried down upon them. Either way.