What's Really Making Us Fat? Its a interesting theory
Replies
-
People overeat for more reasons than just hunger. They overeat out of boredom, habit, stress, etc.
Hunger causes people to overeat, but it's still the overeating that causes weight gain. You don't have to take that as offensive or blaming, it's just a fact. There are many causes for hunger besides your body needing food.So why are some people hungry all the time no matter how much they eat and other people eat just enough to stay slim and are not hungry all the time? Is hunger a psychological condition and does it or should it have no effect on actual eating behavior?
So even though hunger causes overeating which then causes weight gain, is hunger not important in treating or preventing obesity? Just doesn't make any sense to try to treat the effect (overeating) and not the cause (hunger).
It is essentially the lack of self-control over quantity and quality that causes people to gain weight.0 -
I fail to see where anyone said we shouldn't consider the cause. Did I miss something?So even though hunger causes overeating which then causes weight gain, is hunger not important in treating or preventing obesity? Just doesn't make any sense to try to treat the effect (overeating) and not the cause (hunger).0 -
The calories in vs calories out will determine if you gain or lose.
But it is interesting why some people are always hungry, give in to over-eating. You may need to have some self-control but not to such a huge extent every single time. Why do some people just never feel satisfied?0 -
This is an interesting article! And there has to be a reason for the rash of new diabetics, and especially the late onset of Type 1 diabetes in people. The chemicals, or the genetic manipulation, or the chemical changes we are making to our foods really does play a deeper role than most assume.
I'm not sure how I feel about chemicals being the sole reason people are fat but your comment makes me call to mind the absolutely huge numbers of people ( women mostly) being diagnosed for autoimmune diseases.Lots of theories as to why this is happening and one is that it's from the long term effects of the chemicals in makeup, hair dyes, nail polish, etc..
It will be interesting to know what science will prove out in the future.0 -
Everything is chemical. The body breaks down what we eat via chemicals and then uses what's left in a chemical reaction to fuel us or store it. Makes sense that bad, outside chemicals could very well interfere with the chain of events. Though I wouldn't JUST blame chemicals form plastics they could certainly be factored in.0
-
I am scared of the chemicals
Okay. I'm lying.
I
them.
Probably some things interact/interfere with various cellular processes and cause who knows what kind of metabolic changes, but mostly, obesity is about chronic over-consumption of food.0 -
Obesogens? REALLY? That was the best term they could come up with!?0
-
Metabolism is so simple... I can't imagine anything other than calories affecting it.
/sarcasm
You can see a larger version of this awesome Roche poster on the ExPasy server if interested: http://web.expasy.org/cgi-bin/pathways/show_thumbnails.pl0 -
Raspberry ketones counteract all other chemicals, problem solved.0
-
Here's my 2 cents:
I believe that, yes, it IS about cals in/out. No, you do not have to eat "clean" to lose weight. The first time I lost weight (150+ pounds) I used I Can't Believe It's Not Butter spray, Equal, fat free foods, etc. I lost the weight and it wasn't until I started not counting calories and eating ( a lot) that I began to gain it back. This time I am counting calories and exercising (in/out), but I have gone completely "clean". Deciding to give up the chemicals that are in our food was not about losing weight, but about being and feeling healthier. Has it sped up my weight loss? No. I am losing at a nice rate, but it didn't necessarily speed it up. But do I feel better? Yes, I do feel better. Do I think chemicals in food has made people fat? I don't know that the chemicals themselves do that, but I think that food is so processed that it doesn't fill up some people, therefore resulting in them eating more and more. At least that is how I think it affected me.0 -
Metabolism is so simple... I can't imagine anything other than calories affecting it.
/sarcasm
You can see a larger version of this awesome Roche poster on the ExPasy server if interested: http://web.expasy.org/cgi-bin/pathways/show_thumbnails.pl
I this too. What a beautiful image. I will now stare at it for days. 0 -
I this too. What a beautiful image. I will now stare at it for days.
I'm glad I'm not the only one...0 -
Oh my.0 -
several factors including poor food choices, portions, genetics, and more importantly not excercising...........thank MAN for the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.......a good thing gone bad.........0
-
reading some of the comments...pretty funny. bottom line, what makes us fat is a combination of what EVERYONE is saying. There is no one reason
0 -
But physics are physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed, just changed.
Einstein would like to have a word with you.
</joke>
As to what makes us fat: well, I"m not going to say that some of the artificial chemicals in our food have NOTHING to do with it, but in large part the effects are marginal for those who eat normally (by normally I mean a balanced diet). A pop tart probably isn't going to kill you, and a trip to McDonald's once or twice isn't going to do any real harm.
It's only when you consume large amounts of these foods that issues arise. The ratio of processed to natural foods has to be pretty high before real problems start coming in, and they have to be pretty heavily processed as well (I mean like Taco Bell processed, not dehydrated milk processed). Do they CAUSE your body chemistry to change and retain more weight? The jury is out. At this moment it looks unlikely, but it's clear that they do cause some other problems.0 -
I don't think this should be shocking. Anyone with a thyroid disorder knows it can be a challenge to loose weight until the thyroid disorder has been corrected. Many of the chemicals in our environment are known endocrine disruptors, perhaps contributing to the increasing number of Americans being diagnosed with thyroid disorders.0
-
Corn.
That is all.0 -
Corn.
That is all.
0 -
I fail to see where anyone said we shouldn't consider the cause. Did I miss something?So even though hunger causes overeating which then causes weight gain, is hunger not important in treating or preventing obesity? Just doesn't make any sense to try to treat the effect (overeating) and not the cause (hunger).
The consensus is that overeating is the cause. But nobody can explain why people overeat other than to say they have mental problems. Its as if the human body is completely incapable of regulating its own appetite. This mindset really bothers me.0 -
People overeat for more reasons than just hunger. They overeat out of boredom, habit, stress, etc.
Hunger causes people to overeat, but it's still the overeating that causes weight gain. You don't have to take that as offensive or blaming, it's just a fact. There are many causes for hunger besides your body needing food.So why are some people hungry all the time no matter how much they eat and other people eat just enough to stay slim and are not hungry all the time? Is hunger a psychological condition and does it or should it have no effect on actual eating behavior?
So even though hunger causes overeating which then causes weight gain, is hunger not important in treating or preventing obesity? Just doesn't make any sense to try to treat the effect (overeating) and not the cause (hunger).
It is essentially the lack of self-control over quantity and quality that causes people to gain weight.
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress. This is an exaggeration obviously but it seems silly given that certain cultures have obesity problems and others don't. The person/culture controls the quality, and the body controls the quantity.0 -
This site was meant for support, not insults. :flowerforyou:
oops
I thought this site/forums were made to spurt non scientific theories as fact, quick fix weight loss remedies, high sugar recipes and HRM questions...
my bad
/troll
Don't forget the ever present should i eat my exercise calories!!!0 -
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress.
O'Rly???
0 -
That MUST be it!!! It isnt that I was downing MCdonalds, twinkies, fried chicken and cookies and soda every day and I have a metabolic disorder that was going unattended! It was the CHEMICALS!!!!!
Guess what? the food we eat, changes our body chemistry....
(including our brain chemistry)0 -
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress.
O'Rly???
That's why I said it was an exaggeration. The point is I find it hard to believe that US citizens have the most stress, boredom, and whatever other mental reasons we can conceive as to why people overeat over every other country.0 -
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress.
O'Rly???
That's why I said it was an exaggeration. The point is I find it hard to believe that US citizens have the most stress, boredom, and whatever other mental reasons we can conceive as to why people overeat over every other country.
We have the most food, and we're the most sedentary. How hard is that to understand?
Occam's Razor, ever heard of it?0 -
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress.
O'Rly???
That's why I said it was an exaggeration. The point is I find it hard to believe that US citizens have the most stress, boredom, and whatever other mental reasons we can conceive as to why people overeat over every other country.
not srs0 -
People overeat for more reasons than just hunger. They overeat out of boredom, habit, stress, etc.
It is essentially the lack of self-control over quantity and quality that causes people to gain weight.
Except only humans suffer from this. . . . .
I've known some dogs and cats who suffer from this.0 -
Except only humans suffer from this. Or better yet only humans in the USA suffer from this. People in other countries for some reason don't get bored or have stress.
O'Rly???
That's why I said it was an exaggeration. The point is I find it hard to believe that US citizens have the most stress, boredom, and whatever other mental reasons we can conceive as to why people overeat over every other country.
We have the most food, and we're the most sedentary. How hard is that to understand?
Occam's Razor, ever heard of it?
Pretty hard for me to buy that.
Yeah what's your point about Occam's Razor? That I should support the energy balance model as causing obesity because physics equations are the most accurate way to represent biochemistry processes?0 -
People overeat for more reasons than just hunger. They overeat out of boredom, habit, stress, etc.
It is essentially the lack of self-control over quantity and quality that causes people to gain weight.
Except only humans suffer from this. . . . .
I've known some dogs and cats who suffer from this.
That's true when you feed them crap food. My cats eat all dry food and get fat. Maybe if they ate a more natural diet that wouldn't be the case.0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 176K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.6K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions