Diatomaceous Earth
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LOL whatever next...... the asteroid diet? Eating ground up asteroid that's landed on earth....? How about the Uranium diet? Keeps you regular...
it probably contains some minerals that the body needs, but you can get minerals from food. And if you're suffering from intestinal parasites (which is rare in this day and age due to advances in hygiene) you need to see a doctor.0 -
Two things about this (from earlier in thread)-
1. I always hear that bacteria are 'positively charged'. They are not. They are slightly negatively charged.
2. The bacteria that live in your digestive tract are meant to be there, if you disrupt them you do more harm than good.
3. The only thing that CAN disrupt them is antibiotics. Food intake (including probiotics) doesn't do a damn thing in a healthy adult.
Just had to get those off my chest...
Actually probiotics are food for the bacteria, meaning probiotics are good things to eat, regardless if it's in a "healthy" adult or not. Might be overkill, but I'd rather have happy gut flora than dying gut flora.0 -
Wow. I would expect of people to support someone when they ask a question, not be condescending. Some of you seriously me off due to your lack of respect towards someone who is simply trying to gain some more insight into something she is obviously not sure of. If she had made up her mind already, she would not be asking others for their (INFORMED) opinions.
How is it a waste of time to ask others if they have had any experience with using FOODGRADE DE? If you are unable to formulate an intelligent reply, by all means: don't bother to reply in the first place. The only waste here is the time taken to read your stupid reply.
I have read up on Foodgrade DE and have placed my order. I have gone through the trouble of finding people with actual experience with this product and this is what I based my decision on.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.0 -
And supposedly the "clay" that moves through your digestive tract after you ingest DE is negatively charged and most bacteria is positively charged so it helps to remove impurities. Also, the particles are just jagged enough to impale the exoskeleton of parasites, which removes them in the case that you have any. But are not harmful to internal organs. I haven't read any negative reactions or side effects. I'm just nervous to try something that isn't "main stream"....
As someone who works in science, this sounds like as much psuedoscience as crystal healing.
Bacteria is negatively charged due to teichoic acid (gram positive) and phospholipids (gram negatives). Bacteria adhere to cells through relatively strong interactions with receptors, these are strong and can't be broken by something so simple. Bacterial shedding is usually from dead cells or bacterial overgrowth. If you have parasites, you need to see a doctor.0 -
Wow. I would expect of people to support someone when they ask a question, not be condescending. Some of you seriously p*ss me off due to your lack of respect towards someone who is simply trying to gain some more insight into something she is obviously not sure of. If she had made up her mind already, she would not be asking others for their (INFORMED) opinions.
How is it a waste of time to ask others if they have had any experience with using FOODGRADE DE? If you are unable to formulate an intelligent reply, by all means: don't bother to reply in the first place. The only waste here is the time taken to read your stupid reply.
I have read up on Foodgrade DE and have placed my order. I have gone through the trouble of finding people with actual experience with this product and this is what I based my decision on.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.
You don't have to experience something to know it's dumb. For instance, I have never ingested glass shards, yet I know that doing so would be dumb.0 -
There is a food grade variety. That said, I'd skip it.Honestly, something used to filter swimming pools, where you are supposed to wear a mask to filter it, is NOT something that I would be ingesting.0 -
Wow. I would expect of people to support someone when they ask a question, not be condescending. Some of you seriously p*ss me off due to your lack of respect towards someone who is simply trying to gain some more insight into something she is obviously not sure of. If she had made up her mind already, she would not be asking others for their (INFORMED) opinions.
How is it a waste of time to ask others if they have had any experience with using FOODGRADE DE? If you are unable to formulate an intelligent reply, by all means: don't bother to reply in the first place. The only waste here is the time taken to read your stupid reply.
I have read up on Foodgrade DE and have placed my order. I have gone through the trouble of finding people with actual experience with this product and this is what I based my decision on.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.
First post ... used to necro an old thread and yell at people who are being reasonable (You don't have to drink hemlock tea to know it's not a good idea)0 -
I don't know about any intestinal benefits but I do know a number of people who take DE because the silica is supposedly beneficial to growing hair and nails, and also helps with the formation of collagen in the skin. Silica is also available by taking horsetail or bamboo extracts which are common ingredients in hair, skin, and nail supplements.0
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Wow. I would expect of people to support someone when they ask a question, not be condescending. Some of you seriously p*ss me off due to your lack of respect towards someone who is simply trying to gain some more insight into something she is obviously not sure of. If she had made up her mind already, she would not be asking others for their (INFORMED) opinions.
How is it a waste of time to ask others if they have had any experience with using FOODGRADE DE? If you are unable to formulate an intelligent reply, by all means: don't bother to reply in the first place. The only waste here is the time taken to read your stupid reply.
I have read up on Foodgrade DE and have placed my order. I have gone through the trouble of finding people with actual experience with this product and this is what I based my decision on.
Different strokes for different folks and all that.
You used your first post to resurrect a thread that's 2 1/2 years old? And then yell at people ? LOL...stay classy.0 -
I don't know about any intestinal benefits but I do know a number of people who take DE because the silica is supposedly beneficial to growing hair and nails, and also helps with the formation of collagen in the skin. Silica is also available by taking horsetail or bamboo extracts which are common ingredients in hair, skin, and nail supplements.
Or you can eat sand, because it's basically the same thing.
I'm not knocking eating sand either. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 5 years. There was sand in the water and I'm pretty sure most of the food too. I probably ingested lots of sand in my time there. But there is an LD50 limit on silica (silicone dioxide), so it's probably not a good idea to consume lots of it.
There is silicon dioxide in living organisms - it's present in a lot of plants and animals; although there's no known nutritional benefit, there could be unknown nutritional benefits - but seeing as humans and human ancestors have lived just fine for millions of years without consuming large quantities of silica on purpose, and that it's present in plants and animals, it's probably safe to say if it is needed by the body, we get enough of it from eating regular food.0 -
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Too lazy to read zombie thread, but did anyone ever explain what Diatomaceous Earth is actually made of, because I'd be happy to geek out for a little while. :laugh:0
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Hate to feed a zombie thread but cannot help myself. I am pretty sure that the original meaning of "food grade diatomaceous earth" is that it is safe to filter food (beer in particular), not that it is safe eat. It is the fossilized remains of diatoms (beautiful little algae). Google the images - they are almost like snowflakes under the microscope. As I recall, they have a cool way of dividing too - they have to form a new glass shell so they basically spit in half like a petri dish and build a new wall.0
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Too lazy to read zombie thread, but did anyone ever explain what Diatomaceous Earth is actually made of, because I'd be happy to geek out for a little while. :laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_Earth
sand, basically.... sedementary rock formed from the fossilised remains of hard shelled algae. It does contain some minerals, although I'm not sure whether the body can actually absorb the minerals in this form. Look at the wikipedia page to see all the things it's used for. Food grade diatomaceous earth is used as an anti caking agent, mostly in animal feed. It's bizarre, because normally people rant on about how food additives are "toxinz" and they'd look at the wikipedia page for all the other uses of it and go OMG they're putting ingredients from cat litter, insecticides and explosives in our food!!0 -
Great stuff. Don't inhale it, though. It can be hazardous airborne, so if you use it to dust for bugs, wear a respirator until it falls out of the air. You have to use a duster to make it airborne. Scooping a spoonful of it out of a container is perfectly safe.
For internal use, make sure you're using a food grade product. Food grade has been tested for content and is sterile. Diatomaceous earth is add to flour, cake mixes, and lots of products as an anti caking agent. It's routinely given to horses and dogs in their food to battle parasites, but mainly for the smooth shiny coat it gives them. One side effect of taking it regularly is your hair and nails will grow like crazy.
I add it to shakes, smoothies, and even stir it into yogurt. It has no noticeable flavor and is so small you can't even detect any texture. You'll only notice a slight chalkiness, but only if you use a lot of it. I take about a TBSP of it, which is a lot for an 8 oz. drink, but by using some orange or cranberry juice in the mix, that overpowers any of the chalky flavor.
Some people swear it prevents colds, is good for your skin, and helps with lots of ailments. All I know is that it will help clean out any intestinal parasites you might have picked up and your nails and hair do well with it. The bottom line is that other than inhaling it, it's totally harmless and might do you some good. Try it for a couple weeks and chances are good you'll notice some positive results.0 -
Too lazy to read zombie thread, but did anyone ever explain what Diatomaceous Earth is actually made of, because I'd be happy to geek out for a little while. :laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_Earth
sand, basically.... sedementary rock formed from the fossilised remains of hard shelled algae. It does contain some minerals, although I'm not sure whether the body can actually absorb the minerals in this form. Look at the wikipedia page to see all the things it's used for. Food grade diatomaceous earth is used as an anti caking agent, mostly in animal feed. It's bizarre, because normally people rant on about how food additives are "toxinz" and they'd look at the wikipedia page for all the other uses of it and go OMG they're putting ingredients from cat litter, insecticides and explosives in our food!!
LOL, I know what they are, I was about to go in to lecture mode! :happy: Technically the term diatom is a common name, they are actually plant like protists of the phylum Heterokontophyta (I use that term A LOT to scare the crap out of my students at the start of the year). And yes, DE is the left over remains of their tests or shells which are composed primarily of silica, giving them a colorful prismatic appearance under the microscope. Diatoms occur naturally in almost all bodies of water and you are already consuming diatoms when you drink a glass of water, so I'm not 100% clear why you would want to drink more.... Also, it's these little buggers that are responsible for covering the walls of my aquarium in nasty brown sludge whenever I get too lazy and don't scrub it for a while, the fish don't care, but the students start to complain....
There, now I feel better! :laugh:0 -
Its ingestible. You wear a mask because it is fine particles and can do damage to.your lungs when inhaled. Unless you are breathing in your smoothie....do I really have to finish that sentence lol.
Its wildly beneficial especially if you suspect parasites. Drink up!0 -
Its ingestible. You wear a mask because it is fine particles and can do damage to.your lungs when inhaled. Unless you are breathing in your smoothie....do I really have to finish that sentence lol.
Its wildly beneficial especially if you suspect parasites. Drink up!
if someone has parasites, shouldn't they just go see a doctor? I mean intestinal parasites are due to poor hygiene issues that don't really apply in modern society. So what parasites do people have that this might help with?
also, if it's indigestible, what's the point of eating it?
and how did people survive without it all this time?0 -
Some people swear it prevents colds, is good for your skin, and helps with lots of ailments. All I know is that it will help clean out any intestinal parasites you might have picked up and your nails and hair do well with it. The bottom line is that other than inhaling it, it's totally harmless and might do you some good. Try it for a couple weeks and chances are good you'll notice some positive results.
What intestinal parasites are people in western societies getting that it helps with?
Also, what peer reviewed studies exist that show that the "positive results" are really from this and not a placebo affect?0 -
Its ingestible. You wear a mask because it is fine particles and can do damage to.your lungs when inhaled. Unless you are breathing in your smoothie....do I really have to finish that sentence lol.
Its wildly beneficial especially if you suspect parasites. Drink up!
if someone has parasites, shouldn't they just go see a doctor? I mean intestinal parasites are due to poor hygiene issues that don't really apply in modern society. So what parasites do people have that this might help with?
also, if it's indigestible, what's the point of eating it?
and how did people survive without it all this time?
Haven't you ever watched 'The Monsters Inside Me' lol? People get parasites...even in our great developed land. Hikers, campers, farmers...anyone working closely with wild dirt and water is susceptible to parasites. Sure, go see a doctor...but hey, maybe you can avoid the doctor. If I can, I will.
I don't know if you misread my 'INgestible' or if you are referring to it being idigestible? Either way, clays absorb toxins - they go in, absorb some toxins, and come out. Yay.
Surviving and thriving are different schools of thought. Some people are always on the hunt to thrive - others are fine to survive. Neither is wrong to try or not try. Bentonite clay is another popular clay being chugged down these days. Our modern society with our modernized food sources are possibly not allowing us to thrive so why not try....searching for the 'fountain of youth' or top notch health is no new thing.0 -
LOL.
some genius has figured out how to convince gullible people that eating dirt will cure all of their ailments, while this same genius simultaneously sells them that dirt for a huge profit.
PT Barnum was right...0 -
LOL.
some genius has figured out how to convince gullible people that eating dirt will cure all of their ailments, while this same genius simultaneously sells them that dirt for a huge profit.
PT Barnum was right...
Not even dirt really, particulate glass, more like eating your attic insulation. *I am basing that on my dad telling me it was the particulate glass in the insulation that caused itching if you got it on your skin, I know less then nothing about insulation materials but since we're all talking out our butts anyways...*0 -
I know that this is an old thread but
Holy carp, it's scary to see the stuff people believe for weight loss!0 -
I know that this is an old thread but
Holy carp, it's scary to see the stuff people believe for weight loss!
Yea, I just got sucked in because I love diatoms, they're puuurty.0 -
I know that this is an old thread but
Holy carp, it's scary to see the stuff people believe for weight loss!
Yea, I just got sucked in because I love diatoms, they're puuurty.
Yes! Isn't that why it's recommended to kill pests like bugs? It gets in between their exoskeletons or something. *shudder*0 -
Its ingestible. You wear a mask because it is fine particles and can do damage to.your lungs when inhaled. Unless you are breathing in your smoothie....do I really have to finish that sentence lol.
Its wildly beneficial especially if you suspect parasites. Drink up!
if someone has parasites, shouldn't they just go see a doctor? I mean intestinal parasites are due to poor hygiene issues that don't really apply in modern society. So what parasites do people have that this might help with?
also, if it's indigestible, what's the point of eating it?
and how did people survive without it all this time?
Haven't you ever watched 'The Monsters Inside Me' lol? People get parasites...even in our great developed land. Hikers, campers, farmers...anyone working closely with wild dirt and water is susceptible to parasites. Sure, go see a doctor...but hey, maybe you can avoid the doctor. If I can, I will.
I don't know if you misread my 'INgestible' or if you are referring to it being idigestible? Either way, clays absorb toxins - they go in, absorb some toxins, and come out. Yay.
Surviving and thriving are different schools of thought. Some people are always on the hunt to thrive - others are fine to survive. Neither is wrong to try or not try. Bentonite clay is another popular clay being chugged down these days. Our modern society with our modernized food sources are possibly not allowing us to thrive so why not try....searching for the 'fountain of youth' or top notch health is no new thing.
I totally get you about the difference between surviving and thriving, but I am thriving just fine without eating any kind of dirt. This isn't an essential vitamin or mineral, it's something that's being sold by people who are scaremongering about intestinal parasites to people who are at a very low risk of intestinal parasites.
I don't have intestinal parasites and I'm not at risk of them either so there's absolutely no point taking preventative measures against them other than good kitchen hygiene.
Also, when you back up your arguments by telling people to watch documentaries, that's usually a sign that your argument is weak. If you can show me peer reviewed scientific journal articles about the benefits of this stuff, then I'll listen.0 -
LOL.
some genius has figured out how to convince gullible people that eating dirt will cure all of their ailments, while this same genius simultaneously sells them that dirt for a huge profit.
PT Barnum was right...
^^^^ this!!0 -
I'm actually curious how this clay "absorbs toxins." Do these random and (as always) nameless toxins just happen to hang out in the digestive tract? Otherwise, how does the clay get to them to absorb them? I mean, the body generally processes and eliminates toxins through urine, sweat, and exhalation, right? If clay found its way into any of those processes, I'd think you have more pressing health concerns than "nameless toxins."Its ingestible. You wear a mask because it is fine particles and can do damage to.your lungs when inhaled. Unless you are breathing in your smoothie....do I really have to finish that sentence lol.
Its wildly beneficial especially if you suspect parasites. Drink up!
if someone has parasites, shouldn't they just go see a doctor? I mean intestinal parasites are due to poor hygiene issues that don't really apply in modern society. So what parasites do people have that this might help with?
also, if it's indigestible, what's the point of eating it?
and how did people survive without it all this time?
Haven't you ever watched 'The Monsters Inside Me' lol? People get parasites...even in our great developed land. Hikers, campers, farmers...anyone working closely with wild dirt and water is susceptible to parasites. Sure, go see a doctor...but hey, maybe you can avoid the doctor. If I can, I will.
I don't know if you misread my 'INgestible' or if you are referring to it being idigestible? Either way, clays absorb toxins - they go in, absorb some toxins, and come out. Yay.
Surviving and thriving are different schools of thought. Some people are always on the hunt to thrive - others are fine to survive. Neither is wrong to try or not try. Bentonite clay is another popular clay being chugged down these days. Our modern society with our modernized food sources are possibly not allowing us to thrive so why not try....searching for the 'fountain of youth' or top notch health is no new thing.
I totally get you about the difference between surviving and thriving, but I am thriving just fine without eating any kind of dirt. This isn't an essential vitamin or mineral, it's something that's being sold by people who are scaremongering about intestinal parasites to people who are at a very low risk of intestinal parasites.
I don't have intestinal parasites and I'm not at risk of them either so there's absolutely no point taking preventative measures against them other than good kitchen hygiene.
Also, when you back up your arguments by telling people to watch documentaries, that's usually a sign that your argument is weak. If you can show me peer reviewed scientific journal articles about the benefits of this stuff, then I'll listen.0 -
I don't know anything about it but I DO recall gathering either 4 of 8 of these in Zul'Drak.
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