What's the deal with rice hating?

theNurseNancy

Like really? Why do so many people default to hating on rice, saying how bad it is for you? Of course whole grain brown rice (not the processed poo) is much better for you than white rice, but that doesn't mean white rice is evil. I eat it almost every day; Sometimes I eat it twice a day. I think it all comes down to portion size and the food you are eating with said rice. I would never give it up.

What say you MFP? Are you a rice hater?

liftingheavy

I LOVE rice. I do not eat white rice anymore, but I eat brown rice a couple/few times a week. Boiled in chicken broth with chicken breasts and brocolli... YUMMO.

But I do have to watch my carbs unfortunately. I don't do as well on too many carbs as others may. I think it's metabolic or something.

Justacoffeenut

I love rice. But have to admit if not careful I tend to over eat it and gain. But I don't think I will ever give it up completely. Got any good recipes?

badapdos

Well I'm Asian so naturally I eat rice almost every day for dinner. I don't binge and only eat half a cup, which is only 121 calories or so.

nokittyno

Blecht, I hate Rice, and it's bad for you? GOOD! So I can keep away in good harmony.

But really - (yes I do hate it) as stated, I think anything when portion controlled is alright for you, for the most part anyway. Also.. just for the heck of it - I dislike potatoes - but counter that with a love for Sweet Potatoes.

coconutbuNZ

I love rice. White rice. Always have always fill. I find it more filling than bread or potato.

merimeaux

I think if various ethnic groups can have rice-based civilizations and not struggle with obesity as much as America does, then it can't be too bad for you. Moderation and portion control are key!

VeganPanda

I love it! I have learned to eat whatever I like in moderation, and have lost 20 pounds. RICE IS NOT EVIL! I just had a bunch last night with my Thai curry.

Obviously rice isn't a problem, Americans are the obese ones, not Asians!

Yes2HealthyAriel

I have never liked the taste of rice and can only tolerate it in soups or if there is something with a lot of flavor to go over the top. Risottos are good though, love those. Oh and I love sushi which uses rice also.

toadiejones

I hate rice...but mostly because my 4 young kids make a hideous mess every time they eat it and I despise cleaning it up!

CosmicBella

I eat rice every single day... And I've lost 50 pounds so far. I usually have brown or multigrain sprouted rice, but I will occasionally have a brown and wild or plain brown rice. I love it!

theNurseNancy

I hate rice...but mostly because my 4 young kids make a hideous mess every time they eat it and I despise cleaning it up!

I feel you there. Mine mashes it into the carpet. I eat sticky rice :[

theNurseNancy

Well I'm Asian so naturally I eat rice almost every day for dinner. I don't binge and only eat half a cup, which is only 121 calories or so.

I eat about 90g cooked (3/4c I think?). It's 155 cals according to the nutrition facts. Usually is paired with chicken and vegetables.


As for rice based cultures usually not being fat - it's because they eat a larger portion of vegetables than anything else.

pinkhu13

I LOVE (white) rice. Could NEVER give it up. I eat it almost everday too. Rice can help with weight loss (something with digestion or something lol).

KC4800

I love rice. My problem is I really love it. And I used to eat way too much of it. Now I eat it less often and smaller portions. Although when I go out for Indian or Thai Curry, I still each too much rice, but the curry is too good to waste.

janet0513

Nope. I love my rice. All in moderation.

Soupskin

I eat instant boil in bag brown rice every day for lunch with a low sodium can of whatever on top. 2 servings per bag and they take about 10 minutes to boil in the microwave.

Calyps0

I eat long grain brown rice nearly every day, mostly with stir fries and casseroles. I also eat rice noodles. It never amounts to more than a cup a day though.
I love rice and potatoes!
Last night actually I was thinking about how in the olden days rice pudding was popular but I haven't heard of it for a long time.

coconutbuNZ

Bruce Lee ate rice, or so my son tells me, and he was the fittest man ever.

BrianSharpe

I love rice, had some for lunch with my chicken curry today.

NikoM5

Fit it in your macros and move on.

I have been reading some stuff lately that suggests the "brown is better" mantra we've been eating up for the last couple decades may be substantially overblown.

The following is from Alan Aragon.

White rice actually has an equal or better nutritional yield & also has a better nitrogen-retentive effect than brown rice. This is because the fiber & phytate content of brown rice act as antinutrients, reducing the bioavailability of the micronutrients it contains. Since no one is reading the fricking link, I'll just lay things out here:

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Comparison of the nutritional value between brown rice and white rice

Callegaro Mda D, Tirapegui J. Arq Gastroenterol. 1996 Oct-Dec;33(4):225-31.

Cereals are considered an important source of nutrients both in human and animal nourishment. In this paper nutritional value of brown rice is compared to that of white rice in relation to nutrients. Results show that despite higher nutrients contents of brown rice compared to white rice, experimental data does not provide evidence that the brown rice diet is better than the diet based on white rice. Possible antinutritional factors present in brown rice have adverse effects on bioavailability of this cereal nutrients.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9302338

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Effects of brown rice on apparent digestibility and balance of nutrients in young men on low protein diets

J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo). 1987 Jun;33(3):207-18. .Miyoshi H, Okuda T, Okuda K, Koishi H.

The effect of brown rice with low protein intake was studied in five healthy young men. Feces were weighed, the digestibility of nutrients was determined, and blood tests were made. Each subject followed a diet consisting mainly of polished rice for 14 days and one consisting mainly of brown rice for 8 days. Both diets contained 0.5 g protein per kg of body weight. The brown rice diet had 3 times as much dietary fiber as the polished rice diet. On the brown rice diet, fecal weight increased, and apparent digestibility of energy, protein, and fat decreased, as did the absorption rates of Na, K, and P. The nitrogen balance was negative on both diets, but more negative on the brown rice diet. The phosphorus balance on the brown rice diet was significantly negative, but other minerals were not affected by the diet. The levels of cholesterol and minerals in the plasma were not significantly different on the polished rice diet and the brown rice diet. Comparing these results with data on standard protein intake (Miyoshi, H. et al (1986) J. Nutr. Sci. Vitaminol., 32, 581-589.), we concluded that brown rice reduced protein digestibility and nitrogen balance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2822877

silkysly

White rice is nutritionally void: most it's vitamins, minerals and fiber has been stripped. All that is left is the starch which digests fast and coverts quickly into glucose in your body which will cause a spike in blood sugar and leave you crashing soon after. The fiber in brown rice helps to slow the delivery of glucose into the blood stream so you don't get a dramatic high then low in blood sugar; instead you get a steady supply of energy and a feeling of fullness that will last much longer then white rice.

White rice will leave you hungry soon after eating it because it takes very little time for your body to break it down. The result is a sudden increase in energy followed by sluggishness, and cravings for more carb laden foods to get your blood sugar back up. The best way to beat cravings and help weight loss is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel constantly.

That sudden spike in blood glucose is really only good if you eat white rice right before or after strenuous exercise. If those carbs are not used quickly there is a greater chance that they will be stored as fat.

silkysly

Bruce Lee ate rice, or so my son tells me, and he was the fittest man ever.

The key work is fit…, Bruce Lee worked out. He didn’t just eat rice & was done with it.

LorinaLynn

Having Mexican rice right now, with chicken cooked in the crock pot all day with tomatoes, bell and jalapeno peppers, spinach, black beans and corn, shredded Mexi-blend cheese, and a side of corn bread. Yummmmmmm. I'm in food-heaven!

NikoM5

White rice is nutritionally void: most it's vitamins, minerals and fiber has been stripped. All that is left is the starch which digests fast and coverts quickly into glucose in your body which will cause a spike in blood sugar and leave you crashing soon after. The fiber in brown rice helps to slow the delivery of glucose into the blood stream so you don't get a dramatic high then low in blood sugar; instead you get a steady supply of energy and a feeling of fullness that will last much longer then white rice.

White rice will leave you hungry soon after eating it because it takes very little time for your body to break it down. The result is a sudden increase in energy followed by sluggishness, and cravings for more carb laden foods to get your blood sugar back up. The best way to beat cravings and help weight loss is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel constantly.

That sudden spike in blood glucose is really only good if you eat white rice right before or after strenuous exercise. If those carbs are not used quickly there is a greater chance that they will be stored as fat.

Actually not so. See my post above with studies linked.

L00py_T0ucan

Fit it in your macros and move on.

I have been reading some stuff lately that suggests the "brown is better" mantra we've been eating up for the last couple decades may be substantially overblown.

The following is from Alan Aragon.

White rice actually has an equal or better nutritional yield & also has a better nitrogen-retentive effect than brown rice. This is because the fiber & phytate content of brown rice act as antinutrients, reducing the bioavailability of the micronutrients it contains. Since no one is reading the fricking link, I'll just lay things out here:

---

Comparison of the nutritional value between brown rice and white rice

Callegaro Mda D, Tirapegui J. Arq Gastroenterol. 1996 Oct-Dec;33(4):225-31.

Cereals are considered an important source of nutrients both in human and animal nourishment. In this paper nutritional value of brown rice is compared to that of white rice in relation to nutrients. Results show that despite higher nutrients contents of brown rice compared to white rice, experimental data does not provide evidence that the brown rice diet is better than the diet based on white rice. Possible antinutritional factors present in brown rice have adverse effects on bioavailability of this cereal nutrients.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9302338

---

Effects of brown rice on apparent digestibility and balance of nutrients in young men on low protein diets

J Nutr Sci Vitaminol (Tokyo). 1987 Jun;33(3):207-18. .Miyoshi H, Okuda T, Okuda K, Koishi H.

The effect of brown rice with low protein intake was studied in five healthy young men. Feces were weighed, the digestibility of nutrients was determined, and blood tests were made. Each subject followed a diet consisting mainly of polished rice for 14 days and one consisting mainly of brown rice for 8 days. Both diets contained 0.5 g protein per kg of body weight. The brown rice diet had 3 times as much dietary fiber as the polished rice diet. On the brown rice diet, fecal weight increased, and apparent digestibility of energy, protein, and fat decreased, as did the absorption rates of Na, K, and P. The nitrogen balance was negative on both diets, but more negative on the brown rice diet. The phosphorus balance on the brown rice diet was significantly negative, but other minerals were not affected by the diet. The levels of cholesterol and minerals in the plasma were not significantly different on the polished rice diet and the brown rice diet. Comparing these results with data on standard protein intake (Miyoshi, H. et al (1986) J. Nutr. Sci. Vitaminol., 32, 581-589.), we concluded that brown rice reduced protein digestibility and nitrogen balance.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2822877

Thanks for posting these studies!

I'll leave the fecal weighing to the scientists, but what I am hearing here is that there might be more nutrients in the brown rice, but that we might not be able to absorb them.

Maybe now I can stop worrying about how I am going to get my parents to switch to brown rice after eating white rice for over 70+ years! :laugh:

omma_to_3

White rice is nutritionally void: most it's vitamins, minerals and fiber has been stripped. All that is left is the starch which digests fast and coverts quickly into glucose in your body which will cause a spike in blood sugar and leave you crashing soon after. The fiber in brown rice helps to slow the delivery of glucose into the blood stream so you don't get a dramatic high then low in blood sugar; instead you get a steady supply of energy and a feeling of fullness that will last much longer then white rice.

White rice will leave you hungry soon after eating it because it takes very little time for your body to break it down. The result is a sudden increase in energy followed by sluggishness, and cravings for more carb laden foods to get your blood sugar back up. The best way to beat cravings and help weight loss is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel constantly.

That sudden spike in blood glucose is really only good if you eat white rice right before or after strenuous exercise. If those carbs are not used quickly there is a greater chance that they will be stored as fat.

Actually not so. See my post above with studies linked.

Thank you for the justification! I love sticky rice! And I agree - rice in moderation is obviously not bad when you look around Asia. I didn't see any brown rice the entire time we were in Seoul last year. I did see lots of white rice with small amounts of black rice in it. And YUMM!!!

beckyinma

Jasmine rice is my fav. Mmmmmmmm

DBlythe50

I eat rice but for the most part it is long grain wild rice, brown rice and I like quinoa as well. I use the range free organic no salt added chicken broth when I cook it to add flavor and whatever spices I feel like. We have it twice a week and measure it out always plenty left over and with a protein and vegetables makes a good meal. I lost 40lbs in 14 weeks so eating rice, muftigrain or whole wheat pasta, potatoes in moderation is perfectly fine in my opinion.

momof8munchkins

Hate it.. but that's because I can't eat grain very often without getting really ill -I can handle a small portion once every few months..with so little grain bucks in my bank I'm not going to spend them on rice..popcorn would be my grain splurge

theNurseNancy

White rice is nutritionally void: most it's vitamins, minerals and fiber has been stripped. All that is left is the starch which digests fast and coverts quickly into glucose in your body which will cause a spike in blood sugar and leave you crashing soon after. The fiber in brown rice helps to slow the delivery of glucose into the blood stream so you don't get a dramatic high then low in blood sugar; instead you get a steady supply of energy and a feeling of fullness that will last much longer then white rice.

White rice will leave you hungry soon after eating it because it takes very little time for your body to break it down. The result is a sudden increase in energy followed by sluggishness, and cravings for more carb laden foods to get your blood sugar back up. The best way to beat cravings and help weight loss is to keep your blood sugar on an even keel constantly.

That sudden spike in blood glucose is really only good if you eat white rice right before or after strenuous exercise. If those carbs are not used quickly there is a greater chance that they will be stored as fat.

As for blood sugar spiking, sure it does, but not enough to matter in someone who isn't diabetic. Rice in general fills people up. What makes people so hungry so soon after eating chinese food is not the rice. It's the amount of fat consumed. Fat/calorie ratio takes up less space in the stomach but makes you -feel- fuller sooner. When that fat starts to leave, you feel hungry again because your stomach was never full to begin with.