Opinions On Adult Work to Pay Bills

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  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
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    If the person is comfortable with it, I don't care. I mean, sometimes you have to pay the bills. I actually know someone who currently dances at a gentleman's club. I actually went to a pole class (at a gym, lol) with her last week. Killer work out! But she taught pole classes for a while, and she needed a job to pay the bills that fit in her schedule. This did. I don't judge.
  • DataBased
    DataBased Posts: 513 Member
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    I apologize in advance for falling into "Mommy-mode" but my one piece of advice is that people who spend too much time in those kinds of environments tend to end up hurt or worse. I don't mean that to suggest I think they deserve it - but it's just how it happens. I know and love several people who resorted to it but all of them said that lifestyle has a tremendous sphincter-factor - and they were glad to get out of it. I was glad when they did, too.

    Be safe, please! :flowerforyou:
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
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    A best (male) friend of mine is a stripper at a gay club.

    He started doing it to make money for school. He dropped out of school when he realized how much money he could make without an education. It sucks you in. (Same thing happened to a girl friend of mine. We are no longer friends. She got into prostitution and drugs.)

    The plus side to his story is that he used some of the money he saved up to invest in a property management company. Though he still strips about 3 nights out of the week to supplement his income (and make the payment on his Nissan 350Z), he is one of the rare ones that got out of the business alive.

    He still never went back to school, and I don't think he will. Thank God he's slowly joining the real world again, though.

    Point is: it seems like a good idea. And the money is awesome. But it can quickly take over your priorities.
  • LemonSnap
    LemonSnap Posts: 186 Member
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    Prostittion is legal in Switzerland for women aged 16 years and over and has been since 1942.

    LOL I suppose they thought they were being progressive. But women in Switzerland weren't given the vote until the 1970s. That cracks me up.

    I apologize in advance for falling into "Mommy-mode" but my one piece of advice is that people who spend too much time in those kinds of environments tend to end up hurt or worse. I don't mean that to suggest I think they deserve it - but it's just how it happens.

    My thoughts also. I've had many discussions with my kids about how bad things happen to good people when they find themselves in the wrong company.

    In Melbourne, Australia we recently had a situation where an adult entertainer was found dead and dumped. 65 years old, highly successful, millions of dollars well invested, lived at an upmarket address, even her family didn't know what she did for a living - but she was hanging with the wrong crowd.
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
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    Not sure why one would go to the mods for a question such as this but I suppose there are some. I feel your question is as modestly asked as possible and personally have no problem with the question. As for the question, I personally feel you are bright enough and attractive enough to not have to resort to the "adult industry" to put meat on the table and pay the bills. As one poster mentioned... there will come a time when this is not a viable option for you.... as would be the case for any of us... What then? Where to go then? Also, think of your future... Where are you going after the adult industry.. Remember though, you will be somewhat limited by the simple fact that you WERE in the adult industry. I remember the story of the teacher in Florida who was terminated because the district felt that his presence (after he was found to have been in the adult industry) was a moral danger to the students at the school... Perhaps, you are not into teaching but there are many who have objections to the industry and you may find that you will be unduly restricting your future for the sake of a lucrative present.
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
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    Not to mention possibly compromizing future relationships.
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    It's a business that, for most women, will eat you up and spit you out.... doesn't matter if you're talking about hooking, escorting or dancing (or especially performing on camera) - it's all about providing for men who aren't getting any or aren't getting the kind of kink they want. When they pay for it, they think they're entitled to your body and they prefer that you have no self-esteem. Works best for them that way.... Sure, it's one way to pay for school, but it also might wear you out before you're done.
  • 4thehardman
    4thehardman Posts: 731 Member
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    It's a business that, for most women, will eat you up and spit you out.... doesn't matter if you're talking about hooking, escorting or dancing (or especially performing on camera) - it's all about providing for men who aren't getting any or aren't getting the kind of kink they want. When they pay for it, they think they're entitled to your body and they prefer that you have no self-esteem. Works best for them that way.... Sure, it's one way to pay for school, but it also might wear you out before you're done.

    I agree with you in some part and I also think you are making a gross generalisation. Firstly, not all prostitutes are Women. Not all prostitutes are there to satisfy Men. Not all people who hire prostitutes, watch porn or go to strip clubs are trying to satisfy their kink. I am glad that I have never been so heartbreakingly lonely that I have paid someone for a little comfort. I'm glad that I don't have to watch porn to be sexually satisfied but I can imagine to some that this is their lifeline to real human contact that they might depend on. I really don't think that we should club these people together with the 'stag/hen' parties and media spun versions of this trade. Also, whats wrong with a little kink? What gets one persons rocks off might seem strange to another person but as long as it is discreet and handly safely and with consideration for all parties I don't think it needs to be considered in a seedy way.
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    By the way this isn't about me. I have a friend who is far behind on everything (I'm talking hundreds to thousands worth of bills). Her power was shut off, she no longer have food or anyway to cook, water is about to get shut off and so is gas. House payment is due and soon she'll end up on the street.

    She was offered a job to be a waitress/stripper/massage. All depended on what the manager wanted her doing at the time. No sexual contact unless she approved of it first. And it had to be a written approval before the guy was allowed to go private.

    She use to do cam work but wasn't making much of anything.
    written approval?? I would question that since it leaves a trail that can get everyone arrested. Sounds like a story to me....
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    How many times would you be willing to be raped? It happens every day in the various degrees of "adult entertainment" (not just hooking/ escorting either), and often goes unreported due to the sensitive nature of said business. :cry:
    It could happen if the girl was a nurse, cashier, or even a garbage woman...

    but nurses, cashiers and garbage women are not in a business that sees women as a commodity. They are far less likely to be raped in their work environments. Not a comparison at all.
  • jaydubbayu
    jaydubbayu Posts: 456
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    People gotta do what they gotta do... Lay off the drugs, though.. Not to stereotype these types of businesses but laying off that stuff is vital to living a prosperous life.
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    Sorry - how is this related to the goals of MFP. The same question arises - if you have to worry about whether you ask the question or whether you are not following MFP rules and guidelines then surely you should choose not to ask this question here. There must be an alternate forum to ask ADULT questions of this nature. I am not offended by it - just don't think it is appropriate for this forum
    Ladies and Gentlemen, we've found the one person that will report this thread to the mods.

    Yah, what did we expect? There are always self-righteous people who get personal affirmation from making sure everyone else tows the line....

    What the heck did you expect?
  • jaydubbayu
    jaydubbayu Posts: 456
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    To quote the dude:
    "Let me just find a cash machine!"
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    Sorry - how is this related to the goals of MFP. The same question arises - if you have to worry about whether you ask the question or whether you are not following MFP rules and guidelines then surely you should choose not to ask this question here. There must be an alternate forum to ask ADULT questions of this nature. I am not offended by it - just don't think it is appropriate for this forum

    @debs6 - Since we are all adults here & this forum is called Chit-chat, fun and games....I believe this is reserved for non-weightloss talk if someone so pleases...No one on here has said anything derogatory or hateful on here....

    I am not trying to be mean but I don't understand why you would click on this topic if it offends you...That is all. :)
    I don't take your comment as being mean at all - but would like to repeat that this topic does not offend me at all but when I saw it come up on the list of most recent topics I clicked on it because I wondered how it was related to this site in general. When I read it, I then checked and found that this person has never posted at all on this site before, has only recently joined and has perhaps used this post as a not so subtle advertising of her Adult Services. If this is the case - and the post is indeed a fishing expedition for potential customers then I don't think it is appropriate. Please think about it. Why would someone join this site and the very first ever topic they present is about adult services??
    I checked - she's been on several topics and at least 2 before this one. I also believe her story that she's talking about a friend. Works for me, whether it's true or not. And like someone else has said - this is "chit-chat fun and games" as long as we behave, it's pretty much just "chit-chat". I sense a genuine level of concern here for her "friend". A lot of people are finding themselves in desperate circumstances and I really think that's all this is about. Genuine concern for a person in desperate circumstances.
  • Lab2809
    Lab2809 Posts: 58
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    If the person can live with the consequences of their career choices for the rest of their life it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

    I agree with this. If you can handle and/or don't mind photos and videos being out there and possibly being an issue later on in life and if you can handle having to deal with having to be up close and personal with some potentially nasty people, do what you feel is necessary to do. My advise is to think about it for a while (more so with the having to be in contact with "clients"). Do you really want to be that close with some people and is that kind of environment one you would really want to work in?

    Maybe trying to start your own side business with something else you are good at (ie: secretarial services, tutor, idk just throwing random ish out there lol) might be more lucrative and legitimate.

    And by "you" I mean your friend.
  • lickmybaconcakes
    lickmybaconcakes Posts: 1,063 Member
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    Bump.
  • caroleslaststand
    caroleslaststand Posts: 178 Member
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    It's a business that, for most women, will eat you up and spit you out.... doesn't matter if you're talking about hooking, escorting or dancing (or especially performing on camera) - it's all about providing for men who aren't getting any or aren't getting the kind of kink they want. When they pay for it, they think they're entitled to your body and they prefer that you have no self-esteem. Works best for them that way.... Sure, it's one way to pay for school, but it also might wear you out before you're done.

    I agree with you in some part and I also think you are making a gross generalisation. Firstly, not all prostitutes are Women. Not all prostitutes are there to satisfy Men. Not all people who hire prostitutes, watch porn or go to strip clubs are trying to satisfy their kink. I am glad that I have never been so heartbreakingly lonely that I have paid someone for a little comfort. I'm glad that I don't have to watch porn to be sexually satisfied but I can imagine to some that this is their lifeline to real human contact that they might depend on. I really don't think that we should club these people together with the 'stag/hen' parties and media spun versions of this trade. Also, whats wrong with a little kink? What gets one persons rocks off might seem strange to another person but as long as it is discreet and handly safely and with consideration for all parties I don't think it needs to be considered in a seedy way.
    Not only did you get me allll wrong - I don't have a personal problem with viewing porn - I just can see that it takes a really tough broad to make porn and the male actors play entirely different roles - even when they're being dominated, they don't get put through as much abuse. I also recognize that these women may enjoy what they do and that they serve a purpose in a twisted society (if we didn't have such twisted attitudes about sex, there would be far less need for porn and prostitution). I speak from experience - just because I have this theory about women in porn does not mean I don't watch it or that I can't name at least 5 porn stars. It has some appeal for me and I tend to observe it with a detached attitude ("OMG, isn't it amazing what you can do with the human body?") So if you want to lecture a prude - look elsewhere. And I am genuinely sorry to come of as defensive, but your reply was at least as generalized as mine. We only have about so much room here and long posts become boring ....quickly.
  • tania2287
    tania2287 Posts: 236 Member
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    :(
  • NicolettetheGreek
    NicolettetheGreek Posts: 246 Member
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    Hon, Have you thought about getting STUDENT LOANS and PELL GRANTS (Free money from govenment) to help pay for school n bills?

    Yes, student loan's are a ***** to pay off, but you still have urr self respect in the end.

    Just a thought.
    I'm gonna really pray for you tonight.

    In Christ, Nicolette
  • Peta22
    Peta22 Posts: 377 Member
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    Purely as an observation, a girl i went to school with got into stripping, topless waitressing and general mens entertainment. I believe shes either still doing it or only recently stopped... She still has 'for hire' ads on the net. At the age of 38, she is still single. She has one child which was from a brief liaison with a guy who subsequntly appears to have abused her. She's never really had a long term relationship from what I can tell. She also maintains close frindships with her stripper mates who are also into their early 40's and still single.

    My opinions aside, I can't help but wonder whether this type of lifestyle limits your chances of meeting someone and settling down? Could it be something that is hard to 'give up' as long as you still have the body because the money is so easy? Could it lead to you finding that your only associations are with people who may be less than desirable? I feel that it may be something that could haunt you forever and take your life down a road that you never wanted to be on...
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