Attachment parenting and that Time cover...

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  • theladyy
    theladyy Posts: 176
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    I've already stated my thoughts on this, but I will answer your questions.

    I wasn't breastfed, but my siblings were until what is considered a normal age in the US. The reason I wasn't (well, it was VERY little) is because apparently I just didn't like the milk. I was a picky eater since the day I was born...:laugh:
  • Rhea30
    Rhea30 Posts: 625 Member
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    I always find it amusing when a person states how they were breastfed this long or their kids were and how healthy their children are, as if its some type of proof to their way. What's amusing about this is for every person claiming this is why their child is so well balanced you have a child who was formula fed, or breastfed shortly or what not who are just as well balanced and healthy.
  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
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    I'm still nursing my 28 month old. We are in the process of getting rid of the nighttime feeding, and weaning in general. He is much more reluctant than my daughter was, who self weaned around the same age. I would continue to nurse, but he has teeth problems, as did my daughter. Daughter's teeth got better after I weaned.

    As far as nursing kids who talk... my son started talking very young. Said his first word at 9 months. Was speaking in sentences by the time he was 18 months. He is very well spoken for his age, and remembers all kinds of stuff that surprises me. I am sure he will have memories of nursing. And that doesn't bother me. I don't understand why people think this is going to be traumatic. It's not an abusive situation. It's a natural situation. Saying that you shouldn't nurse a child because they can talk and they will remember insinuates that there is some shame involved in the act of nursing. There is no shame in nursing and no shame in having been nursed. Regardless of whether you can talk and remember or not.

    Some have said that the cover insinuates that women who don't nurse, or don't long term nurse aren't "Mom enough." My interpretation of the cover was different. It seemed to me that they were insinuating that there is an army of Dr. Sears followers of who militantly attachment parent, and that they are extreme. Which is a bit insulting to me. Once again, cultural and social bullying at it's finest in our society. I don't tell my friends that don't nurse that they are extreme or that they are doing it wrong. I keep my opinions of their choices to put their babies in a crib to myself. But, I still find myself defending MY choices. Which is annoying. I know that a lot of people wouldn't put up with that crap and they would tell their friends they are doing it wrong and they wouldn't stand being bullied, maybe by reverse bullying. But I prefer to let each do their own thing. We all have opinions about what others are doing with their lives, and it's really just a big waste of time sitting on the sidelines criticizing everyone and everything one can find to criticize. Keeps you from living your own damn life.

    This.
  • budhandy
    budhandy Posts: 305 Member
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    even though I got some good size moobs I honestly cant have an opion what its like to breast feed, that being said i can have opion about observing. I really think its a personal choice and there really nothing wrong it. like other have said the cover is for shock and awe but it happens and the kids not getting hurt by it, something tells me he is used to doing it lol. Now my wife stopped producing milk 2 weeks after my youngest was born. Does that make her any less of a mom, hell no. Bottle feed or breast feed, do what you do!
  • roachhaley
    roachhaley Posts: 978 Member
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    I dont care what people do with their own kids, but "are you mom enough" is REALLY insulting to people who cannot/choose not to breastfeed. honestly. are they not real moms because they stopped producing milk?

    my aunt breastfed my cousin until she was about 3. the only issue with it i had was that she was being constantly interrupted to feed her child who could eat solid food on her own, and the child was also VERY VERY dependent on it. like, she would throw a FIT if she didn't get her some boobie. my aunt is taiwanese, but i dont know if breastfeeding past infancy is common.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
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    What do I think of the cover?
    -A) Its creepy
    -B) that woman is very very pretty.

    As far as discussing breast feeding? We are mammals, that defines us, that's like discussing "lungs versus gills".
    As far as 3 year olds breast feeding, its obviously wrong because of one thing "teeth".

    END OF DISCUSSION.
  • jmehere
    jmehere Posts: 108 Member
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    What do I think of the cover?
    -A) Its creepy
    -B) that woman is very very pretty.

    As far as discussing breast feeding? We are mammals, that defines us, that's like discussing "lungs versus gills".
    As far as 3 year olds breast feeding, its obviously wrong because of one thing "teeth".

    END OF DISCUSSION.

    Kids usually have at least 1 tooth by the time they are 1. You can teach them not to bite if they are biters.
  • NewLIFEstyle4ME
    NewLIFEstyle4ME Posts: 4,440 Member
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    The more I'm reading about this woman Jamie Lynne...I dunno:huh: , I would say it's none of my blasted business BUT she is on THE COVER OF TIME MAGAZINE :indifferent:

    I found this blog she wrote/posted report called "Nurse-In at Target"... turns out she has an adopted son, who she also nurses sometime...he's 5 years old! Here's the article...it's alarming/disturbing to me (for some ODD reason). Here's an excerpt and a pic from the blog article she wrote Dec. 2011...

    Nurse-In at Target in Los Angeles – Operation: Normalize Breastfeeding
    http://momsla.com/author/jamie-lynne/


    "We adopted our second son from Ethiopia. He was a month shy of his fourth birthday when he came home. We found out soon after he arrived home his mother had breastfed him right up until he entered the orphanage (at 3.5 years old.) From my own experience breastfeeding, my heart broke even more for him. Not only did he lose his mother (the most important and present person to him at that time), he lost his language, his country, and the only thing that would provide true comfort to him- breastfeeding. My son did not have a pacifier or a blankie that could soothe him.

    My son came home only speaking Sidamic and a little Amharic. He saw me breastfeeding his brother one day and was interested. I asked him if he wanted to nurse and he nodded his head. I cannot tell you how much this action provided the comfort that my child needed. It aided in both of our attachment to each other. It also solidified his place in the family. My biological son saw that he was his equal, and my adopted son understood that he was just as important as his brother.

    It is easy to judge things we don’t understand. I want to encourage everyone to keep an open mind about breastfeeding. Whether it be breastfeeding in public (cover or no cover), adoptive breastfeeding, or even extended breastfeeding. It may not be right for your family, but it might be the saving grace in another family. As mothers, we need to encourage each other to make the right decisions for our children.

    Jamie is a Los Angeles Mom Blogger. Her personal blog is I Am Not The Babysitter! – and she coauthors Mommy Hates Chemicals

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    Also check out this article called: Who is Jamie Lynne Grumet
    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/340083/20120511/jamie-lynne-grumet-time-magazine-breastfeeding-cover.htm?page=2


    :huh: I nursed all of my children, the last one for 20 months, so I'm no "prude" when it comes to nursing your children...but something is scary about this chick to me. I also saw a Good Morning America or the Today's Show program with her and the little man on there, and it was extremely disturbing to me too. Not just the mom, but how the mom was reacting to the boy, and the little boys behavior... Here's the clip in case you didn't see it:



    http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/today-show-interviews-jamie-lynne-grumet-time-magazine-cover-mother-with-3-year-old-breastfeeding

    What's "scary" to you? That she chose to breast feed her adoptive son? To foster a beautiful attachment that is very difficult to make in an adoption situation like that? I'm confused.
    I adoptive breast fed my son, but maybe it's less scary to you since my son was 2 days old when he was placed with us.

    Please clarify what part is so "scary to you."

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    Jamie Lynne said;

    ""We adopted our second son from Ethiopia. He was a month shy of his fourth birthday when he came home. We found out soon after he arrived home his mother had breastfed him right up until he entered the orphanage (at 3.5 years old.) From my own experience breastfeeding, my heart broke even more for him. Not only did he lose his mother (the most important and present person to him at that time), he lost his language, his country, and the only thing that would provide true comfort to him- breastfeeding. My son did not have a pacifier or a blankie that could soothe him.

    My son came home only speaking Sidamic and a little Amharic. He saw me breastfeeding his brother one day and was interested. I asked him if he wanted to nurse and he nodded his head. I cannot tell you how much this action provided the comfort that my child needed. It aided in both of our attachment to each other. It also solidified his place in the family. My biological son saw that he was his equal, and my adopted son understood that he was just as important as his brother."

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    THIS is scary to me. nursing a wee darling 2 day old adoptive son is adorable to me...totally NOT scary. Nursing an adoptive 4 year old...:sick: is...ummmm, scary to me--meaning:

    scar·y/ˈske(ə)rē/
    Adjective:

    1. Frightening; causing fear: "a scary movie".
    2. Uncannily striking or surprising.

    # 2 definition of scary...Uncannily striking or surprising.


    . Hope that answers your question.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
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    I always find it amusing when a person states how they were breastfed this long or their kids were and how healthy their children are, as if its some type of proof to their way. What's amusing about this is for every person claiming this is why their child is so well balanced you have a child who was formula fed, or breastfed shortly or what not who are just as well balanced and healthy.

    Yes, this is true, and it is comical.

    BTW, I was formula-fed, and I breastfed my children. I am awesome. :laugh:
  • robot_potato
    robot_potato Posts: 1,535 Member
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    The cover itself was off-putting, and the caption was insulting.

    That being said, my oldest was not breastfed. I pumped for her until she was 3. Didn't get much, but I tried. Most of her food was formula until 18 months. She lived the first 4 months of her life in NICU, and has shocked us all by living past her first birthday. she is a happy, healthy, brilliant 7 year old. So yes, I am mom enough.

    My son was breastfed until he chose to wean shortly after he turned 3. He is almost 4 now, there is no awkwardness, he is not scarred. It was his choice and mine. His right and mine. Had he needed to nurse longer, I would have allowed it. why deny him, a small person, who is still growing at an anomalytic rate the best source of nutrition and comfort available to him? and FYI, a child, when latched propery, is unable to bite while nursing, regardless of how many teeth they may have. They lose the ability to suckle when they are 7 or 8, because nearly every child would nurse until evolution happened and people became prudes. You want Paleo diet? This is where it starts. .
  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
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    I always find it amusing when a person states how they were breastfed this long or their kids were and how healthy their children are, as if its some type of proof to their way. What's amusing about this is for every person claiming this is why their child is so well balanced you have a child who was formula fed, or breastfed shortly or what not who are just as well balanced and healthy.

    In the same way, I find it amusing how, whenever breastfeeding is mentioned, someone who formula fed comes up with how healthy and smart their children are when the breastfed kid down the road has mutiple problems. Or how their FF Johnny was the top in his class and super healthy while their breastfed first born was sickly and didn't do too well in school.

    Or like how, whenever breastfeeding is mentioned, people bring up sexual abuse, the phrase 'to each their own' and how guilty they feel, oh, and also, how much they hate people NIP.
  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
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    Just wanted to add to those people who claim the woman should pump past a certain age, the best thing to do is not to mess with the supply and demand cycle the baby establishes by pumping. Not only that, but because suckling from a rubber teat is much less work for a baby/child than a real nipple, it happens that they come to prefer the bottle, which may not be the best outcome for mother or child.

    Not only these important points, but breastmilk is a biologically active fluid. It adapts to the child and their current needs. To quote an article;

    "They also get sick less often since the mother’s body acts as a pharmacy for the baby. If the child picks up a virus their body will desire to nurse more often. The virus will pass through the baby’s saliva, onto the mother’s nipple, and into her body where her immune system will begin to develop antibodies for it. The next time the baby nurses, he will receive more than just milk–the milk will also contain the mother’s antibodies, giving the baby a head start in fighting off the illness before he even gets a chance to show symptoms. This often results in a healthy baby who rarely becomes seriously ill. Breastfed babies have much lower instances of colds, flus, and diarrhea than the average formula fed baby.".

    So, yes, breastmilk is great in a cup, but it doesn't serve its proper function, nor is it as much use.

    So before you conform to social prejudices and your own closed minded ideas, research about the wonders of our species appropiate milk.
  • LilynEdensmom
    LilynEdensmom Posts: 612 Member
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    I always find it amusing when a person states how they were breastfed this long or their kids were and how healthy their children are, as if its some type of proof to their way. What's amusing about this is for every person claiming this is why their child is so well balanced you have a child who was formula fed, or breastfed shortly or what not who are just as well balanced and healthy.

    I formula fed both my girls from birth to 1 year...They are now 13 and 4..Healthy happy and smart :) Neither one was ever really sick usually colds and flu nothing major...

    The mommy wars are getting old and really kinda stupid. As long as the baby is eating, being loved and cared for isn't that what really matters. You can be a good mom and not breast feed and you can be a good mom and BF till they are 3.