dating event bans fat people

secretlobster

Especially since Jessica Ennis is apparently fat.



Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/olympics/london-2012/47108/athletics-chief-thinks-jessica-ennis-fat-claims-coach#ixzz1vtL5LyBV

Okay, but this is just Silly Internet Gossip based on what someone allegedly heard from people he won't even name. I'm not sure why anyone would take it seriously.

spade117

So you automatically look at people and BOOM..."you're fat/you smoke/etc etc so I have no respect for you and I won't even give you the time of day"...without even talking to them first?

Not in those exact words, but yes, I think that way about different characteristics.

Looks, as much as people deny it, are very important - at least with first impressions.

QFT

ZombieDiva76

I don't think it's offensive.

Being overweight is a choice.

I don't respect people aren't taking care of their bodies, this includes by doing drugs or staying overweight or anything that is destructive, and I certainly wouldn't want to date someone who is.

Being overweight is a choice? Give me a break. There are those that have medical reasons as to why they are overweight.

Can you tell me of a medical condition that would make anyone 100+ lbs. overweight even on a calorie deficit & exercising? Those medical conditions can only make a person burn fewer calories than those who don't have it BUT c'mon that alone won't make somebody suddenly 100+ lbs. overweight. Having those medical conditions isn't an excuse as to why you're overweight, it only means that the one who has it needs to exert a little more effort to burn off similar amount of calories & to create a similar deficit as to those who have normal conditions. Yes it may take a bit longer than usual to lose weight but it CAN still be done.

I was diagnosed with PCOS last 2009 & in fact it took me three long years just to lose those 50 lbs. If we do the typical 3,500 calories/week = 1 pound lost, that is supposed to take only one year given that we have 52 weeks in a year. Now given that condition, I would have just dreamed of being slim but NO, I still did all my best to get here where I am now.

I have PCOS, IR and Hypothyroidism topped off my a metabolic disorder - I was on a 1500 calorie diet, I exercised, drank tons of water, etc and I gaind 45lbs in one year. This was on top of the 30lbs that I had gained while just watching portion sizes and exercising a little bit. Was I on the wrong diet? Yes, absolutely. Did I do everything within my means to try to lose the weight? I thought I did. I am losing weight NOW on a different diet but I certainly didnt choose to gain that weight. I was careful about EVERYTHING that I ate and yet, every week, the scale went up.
Do some people "choose" to be overweight? Sure, of course they do but to say that all people are fat because they choose to be fat is ridiculous and stereotypical. Surely you cant speak for every fat person in the world with a medical condition.

I agree with the above.

I don't think I take near as much offense to the origional question as I do to the assumption that there is NO medical conditions that make it extremely difficult and almost impossible for certain people to loose weight. My eight year old daughter was diagnosed with an extremely severe case of Guttate psoriasis that, while we were waiting on a treatment, quickly morphed into erythrodermic psoriasis...which can become life threatening. She was put on strong medications usually given to prevent transplant rejection and hospitalized. As a side issue along with her psoriasis, she developed psoriatic arthritis that make the simplest of movement painful. She began to gain weight as a side effect of her medication, which also effected her metabolism. Believe me this child was not eating junk, as we were trying to keep her healthy. She was eventually placed on a permanent medication that also makes it difficult for her to loose weight, much of which is water retension. To the judgemental outside world, she appears overweight. But in reality...she is a red belt in taekwondo (she attends four days a week), plays all sports available to her, and now that her PA is controlled could most likely run circles around most kids I know. Doesn't stop people from judging her or us as her parents that she appears to carry extra weight. Please do not make assumptions about people who are overweight and assume all of them have a choice. I can assure you there are exceptions to every assumption.

zaithyr

I don't think it's offensive.

Being overweight is a choice.

I don't respect people aren't taking care of their bodies, this includes by doing drugs or staying overweight or anything that is destructive, and I certainly wouldn't want to date someone who is.

Being overweight is a choice? Give me a break. There are those that have medical reasons as to why they are overweight.

Can you tell me of a medical condition that would make anyone 100+ lbs. overweight even on a calorie deficit & exercising? Those medical conditions can only make a person burn fewer calories than those who don't have it BUT c'mon that alone won't make somebody suddenly 100+ lbs. overweight. Having those medical conditions isn't an excuse as to why you're overweight, it only means that the one who has it needs to exert a little more effort to burn off similar amount of calories & to create a similar deficit as to those who have normal conditions. Yes it may take a bit longer than usual to lose weight but it CAN still be done.

I was diagnosed with PCOS last 2009 & in fact it took me three long years just to lose those 50 lbs. If we do the typical 3,500 calories/week = 1 pound lost, that is supposed to take only one year given that we have 52 weeks in a year. Now given that condition, I would have just dreamed of being slim but NO, I still did all my best to get here where I am now.

I have PCOS, IR and Hypothyroidism topped off my a metabolic disorder - I was on a 1500 calorie diet, I exercised, drank tons of water, etc and I gaind 45lbs in one year. This was on top of the 30lbs that I had gained while just watching portion sizes and exercising a little bit. Was I on the wrong diet? Yes, absolutely. Did I do everything within my means to try to lose the weight? I thought I did. I am losing weight NOW on a different diet but I certainly didnt choose to gain that weight. I was careful about EVERYTHING that I ate and yet, every week, the scale went up.
Do some people "choose" to be overweight? Sure, of course they do but to say that all people are fat because they choose to be fat is ridiculous and stereotypical. Surely you cant speak for every fat person in the world with a medical condition.

I agree with this too. My mom was on a 1300 calorie diet and exercising regularly and was still almost 100 lbs overweight. Turns out she had a lot of issues that are described above that were undiagnosed. I can't stand it when people stereotype overweight people. And some people do have eating disorders that cause them to be overweight. You wouldn't bash an anorexic person for their eating disorder and say "Well I have no respect for them because they just don't eat and don't do enough to gain weight!" when it's clearly something much deeper than that. That's why you shouldn't judge people by their appearance and make the decision whether or not they are worthy of respect just by looking at them. You don't know their story or what they are battling.

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homeport51

I guess my main question would be.... where is the cut off line? Who determines who is too fat and who is an acceptable weight? Do they weigh you at the door and compare you to a chart or something? The concept is too general. One person's fat could be 10 lbs. over ideal weight... so who is to say who is too fat to attend?
Additionally... it is discriminatory in every sense of the word. I don't see how you can hold a public event and exclude certain people by virtue of weight, religion, ethnicity or gender. Just isn't done anymore. People may decide not to attend your event, because they have nothing in common with the intended target guests, but they should always have the option.

REET420

It's very offensive, how could it not be? It's rude and tacky.

When I used to use okcupid.com, I could set my options so that it wouldn't even show those outside of my personalized specifications. To me, this is kind of like that, just in "real life".

People who don't like it don't have to go.

..That's a way of looking at it suppose....

The question is, is this offensive? and the only answer is yes, absolutely it's offensive. I am not even a "fat" person and I'm offended at how ignorant people in this world can be.

It is rude. What if they said no black people or Asian people or gay people? Every one would be up in arms but it's ok to discriminate fat people or underweight people. Overweight people have enough of a hard time accepting their bodies and finding dates.


I understand we don't have to use something we don't like but what if everyone running a date website does the same thing and now your only allowed on them if you have D cups and an hourglass figure.

homeport51

What do they consider fat? What is the criteria? Are they going to get people to step on the scale at the door? Or are they going to just look at you at the door and say 'too fat'....?

This is just one example of the reasons why a lot of women have body issues...

Each of us has a different idea of what is considered overweight or too fat. But when it is pointed out people feel humiliated and disrespected.

They should just let anyone at the event decide who or what they are attracted to...it is a personal choice.

Really? So if you were 20 years old and looking to meet someone also in their early 20s, you wouldn't mind going to an event where they let people of ALL ages in. Once there you discovered you are wasting your time and money because 90% of the people are in their late 40s. Wouldn't you prefer to go to an event where the majority of the people there are going to be in the same age range in which you feel comfortable dating?

That's not saying people in their 40s or older are bad people, they're just not the people you think you would have anything in common with. Restricting ONE (yes one, this article isn't saying ALL dating events all over the world are excluding fat people) dating event to slimmer people just makes it easier for people who want to date a slimmer person to find someone.

Age restrictions are different and quantifiable. Either you are in your 20's or you are not. Size is subjective. Size 12 is considered fat by some and a goal by others. How would you determine who was too fat?

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spade117

I don't see how you can hold a public event and exclude certain people by virtue of weight, religion, ethnicity or gender. Just isn't done anymore.

It happens all the time with gender.

_hi_hat3r_

I'm fat and I would not be offended. To each its own. Besides they're probably not cool enough to be graced with all my awesomeness anyway.

coachblt

Offensive...yeah, I can see that. Tacky...absolutely.

EmCarroll1990

You know what I find offensive? I really want to go and live in an old age home, I mean they take care of you and do everything. But I can't because I'm not old. HOW RUDE. And who defines who's old or not? Gosh...

saxmaniac

Age restrictions are different and quantifiable. Either you are in your 20's or you are not. Size is subjective. Size 12 is considered fat by some and a goal by others. How would you determine who was too fat?

Are you kidding?

Height and weight are quantifiable. Height and weight gives you a BMI. A cutoff BMI of 30 as "too fat" is no different than a cut off of age 30 as being "too old".

Not that I subscribe to that idea myself... way too many attractive people over 30.

FlaxMilk

Can you tell me of a medical condition that would make anyone 100+ lbs. overweight even on a calorie deficit & exercising? Those medical conditions can only make a person burn fewer calories than those who don't have it BUT c'mon that alone won't make somebody suddenly 100+ lbs. overweight. Having those medical conditions isn't an excuse as to why you're overweight, it only means that the one who has it needs to exert a little more effort to burn off similar amount of calories & to create a similar deficit as to those who have normal conditions. Yes it may take a bit longer than usual to lose weight but it CAN still be done.

I was diagnosed with PCOS last 2009 & in fact it took me three long years just to lose those 50 lbs. If we do the typical 3,500 calories/week = 1 pound lost, that is supposed to take only one year given that we have 52 weeks in a year. Now given that condition, I would have just dreamed of being slim but NO, I still did all my best to get here where I am now.

I took a medication that not only made me gain weight, but no matter what exercise or calorie deficit I had, I couldn't lose weight. I think it took me 6 months to lose a pound eating the way I am now. I had to come off of that medicine, and I am lucky enough that I was able to do that. There are other people that can't stop taking the medication, and my doctor told me that due to another medical condition, none of the alternatives would be any better for me. Someone in my situation that could not stop taking the medicine would be in a very rough spot.

sgarrard01

Can i just point out that there are a number of what i would consider to be very attractive girls, supposidly sticking up for the 'a few extra pounds' type of guy.... and almost give the impression they wouldnt be fussed at all....

my quetion is... WHERE IN THE HELL ARE YOU IN REAL LIFE! ha ha :-(

Si x

Erisad

Meh, those people deserve each other I guess. I already have a boyfriend so what do I care? :P

EmCarroll1990

Can i just point out that there are a number of what i would consider to be very attractive girls, supposidly sticking up for the 'a few extra pounds' type of guy.... and almost give the impression they wouldnt be fussed at all....

my quetion is... WHERE IN THE HELL ARE YOU IN REAL LIFE! ha ha :-(

Si x

I found this adorable.

andrewsmommy13

I don't think it's offensive.

Being overweight is a choice.

I don't respect people aren't taking care of their bodies, this includes by doing drugs or staying overweight or anything that is destructive, and I certainly wouldn't want to date someone who is.

Being overweight is a choice? Give me a break. There are those that have medical reasons as to why they are overweight.

Being overweight is a choice to a point. Most people just have never really been taught how to avoid being overweight . In my circumstance, I was completely ignorant on how to control my weight. I took health in high school and college. I never learned anything that really taught me a healthy lifestyle. I graduated 2nd in my class and have a pretty high iq, so it wasn't due to my inability to grasp what they taught. I simply was not taught the basics for living healthy.

There is a lot of ignorance surrounding the obesity problem in this country. I see a lot of it on these forums. People seem to think that if you are obese it is because you are lazy, eat constantly, and don't care about yourself. Maybe some are, but I see far more people that are just lost and have no idea how to get back. I would suggest that people should not just make blanket judgements based on physical appearance. I tend to believe people are inherently deserving of respect until they prove otherwise.

Thank you for such an intelligent response! I agree with you completely. I was never taught how to live a healthy lifestyle. But I am learning now and trying to make it a healthy lifestyle change for my family and myself.

Awkward30

Age restrictions are different and quantifiable. Either you are in your 20's or you are not. Size is subjective. Size 12 is considered fat by some and a goal by others. How would you determine who was too fat?

Are you kidding?

Height and weight are quantifiable. Height and weight gives you a BMI. A cutoff BMI of 30 as "too fat" is no different than a cut off of age 30 as being "too old".

Not that I subscribe to that idea myself... way too many attractive people over 30.

Damn, if they use BMI as a cutoff, I'm not going. I like a built or builtfat guy and even at low BF their BMI would be high.

Someone said they actually used size 10 as a cutoff, which is even stupider, as I've seen plenty of small framed obese or overweight girls that don't hit that size. As I've seen people who are relatively in shape that are damn close to that.

Meh, I don't object to the idea of narrowing the subset of allowed people, but I think that with this criteria, there is no good way to do it. bodyfat% is the best measure of whether someone is fat or not, so I demand a caliper test on everyone entering the event. Also, everyone must wear bathing suits so that the caliper sites are unclothed.

Who's coming to my party?

EmCarroll1990

Random thought: Maybe it'll motivate those denied to lose weight.