Does eating more to weight less work for everyone?

Helloitsdan

Some maths is wrong there Dan -

LBM is about 114lbs
And fat mass at 133lbs
total - 247

but she is only 162!

Sorry ive got 2pints of guinness running through me at the moment so edited for content!
=D
IIFYM right?!

Helloitsdan

LOL, Dan. I just told you I did 1800-some calories for 8 weeks. What more do you want? My stats? Here you go, buddy.

Age 47
Height 5'4"
Weight 162
Body fat% over 30%
How often you work out: I don't 'work out' so much as focus on NEAT. I do three 45-minute-ish kettlebell workouts a week, currently, and walk about 4 miles a day above my sedentary levels of activity.

Because I know I lose at the rate science predicts (3500 calories = 1 lb.) I don't foresee trying any higher deficit levels, especially since I have in the past. But I will let you have my stats so you can do your math magic and I can tell you how much less I lose at the level you suggest. Again. : )

So you have a BMR of appx 1359
A TDEE of appx 2107

Cardio has nothing to do with weight loss but can help with fat mobilization.

Perfect weight 128lbs.

Youll drop fat at 1800 cals a day!

You are losing 1lb a week!!!!!

I'm telling you this **** works!
It doesnt matter how old you are or what you do!
I've proiven it!
This **** works!





You can completely drop cardio and just lift 3x a week for a 200kcal burn and lose weight faster than how you are doing it!
Period!

Kettlebells and all...btw.

So why waste 500 extra cals a day when you can be feeding possible muscle retention and maybe even indulging a little?
I dont get it!

ebooth3452

Yes, Skipping Queen. I am really nervous but I started it today. I have been eating 1200 calories and only had an initial loss of 5 lbs. So today I upped my calories today to 1680. Plus I earned 196 calories from exercise. This just seems like a lot of food. But since so many people swear by it, I am going to give it a try.

Krystalmyth

Where are you getting these sexy graphs? Can I use this tool too? Sorry if I missed where I can find it. ;~; Ty~

sarahrobin

Yes, Skipping Queen. I am really nervous but I started it today. I have been eating 1200 calories and only had an initial loss of 5 lbs. So today I upped my calories today to 1680. Plus I earned 196 calories from exercise. This just seems like a lot of food. But since so many people swear by it, I am going to give it a try.

If you are upping to be 15-20% below TDEE then do not eat your exercise calories back. They are already figured into the equation. Go to this thread to get all the facts. Dan lays it out really nicely. I've been following it for a couple of weeks and have seen some nice progress! Plus, I'm not hungry at all!

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12?hl=road+map

Helloitsdan

Sorry but I didnt set your macros correctly!
Appx 1g per pound LBM.

heybales

Yes, Skipping Queen. I am really nervous but I started it today. I have been eating 1200 calories and only had an initial loss of 5 lbs. So today I upped my calories today to 1680. Plus I earned 196 calories from exercise. This just seems like a lot of food. But since so many people swear by it, I am going to give it a try.

Don't you dare eat that exercise!

if you followed this method and came up with a TDEE that includes exercise - you don't eat it back because it's already in your total figure prior to the deficit.

Krystalmyth

These whole calculations are confusing as hell for me. I've wasted so much time on this. I tried running his numbers running a tool and I got totally different numbers than you did Helloit. So I pretty much won't bother with mine if I'm obviously doing something horrendously wrong.

If there is a tool I can use to make this easier, or if I can PM someone for help, I'd like love it. In return once I understand, I'll make sure to help people who come into the thread as well, and return the favor~ but as of now this is extremely frustrating to get.

Sorry for being stupid. -.-

heybales

These whole calculations are confusing as hell for me. I've wasted so much time on this. I tried running his numbers running a tool and I got totally different numbers than you did Helloit. So I pretty much won't bother with mine if I'm obviously doing something horrendously wrong.

If there is a tool I can use to make this easier, or if I can PM someone for help, I'd like love it. In return once I understand, I'll make sure to help people who come into the thread as well, and return the favor~ but as of now this is extremely frustrating to get.

Sorry for being stupid. -.-

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/620206-spreadsheet-for-bmr-tdee-deficit-calcs-mfp-tweaks-hrm

Helloitsdan

These whole calculations are confusing as hell for me. I've wasted so much time on this. I tried running his numbers running a tool and I got totally different numbers than you did Helloit. So I pretty much won't bother with mine if I'm obviously doing something horrendously wrong.

If there is a tool I can use to make this easier, or if I can PM someone for help, I'd like love it. In return once I understand, I'll make sure to help people who come into the thread as well, and return the favor~ but as of now this is extremely frustrating to get.

Sorry for being stupid. -.-

You arent stupid!
lol
Just figuring out your TDEE takes time.
Even for me!

learntolive

Doesn't work for me. I have to count calories ( I'm @ 1,200) and exercise. Joni:flowerforyou:

ironanimal

Doesn't work for me. I have to count calories ( I'm @ 1,200) and exercise. Joni:flowerforyou:

The point is here.



Your head is down here.

DarthH8

Doesn't work for me. I have to count calories ( I'm @ 1,200) and exercise. Joni:flowerforyou:

The point is here.



Your head is down here.

hahahhaha nice...

Krystalmyth

Sigh~ alright, I still don't quite get the TDEE thing but... I put in everything in yellow in the spreadsheet.

Age: 29
Sex: F (MTF, hormones have shifted~ so, calculating as F unless you know something I don't)
Current Weight: 161lbs
Goal Weight: 130 (We'll see~ ><)
Height: 65" (5'5")
Body Fat: 34.9% (Hush... )
Blood Type: O+
Sign: Pisces
Favorite Dish: Sushi

Kay so with all of that typed in, at Sedentary (which my buns are right now until I get myself moved in...)
BMR: 1397
TDEE: 1676

So Sedentary, I can only eat 1425 Calories a day to lose weight... is this correct? Mind you I will be doing exercise soon. I will, and I'll recalculate, but right now I want a Sedentary baseline. Am I looking at my numbers correctly? Because this is kind of what MFP has for me already.

Edit: Bah, I killed the thread.

nannabannana

bumpity bump....yes...tks for sharing this ....I will have to read later.

JessLLoser

Yes it does, it just doesn`t mean eat all you want. It means trust the on line calculators and fiddle around with your numbers till you find the right activity level. I`ve had a little trouble with that. Hence the 0.

But once you do eating 1200 cal is a thing of the past. I thought I could eat more. Now I know for weight loss you have to suffer a little. But not a lot.

I gained weight for a while trying to figure it out. But now it`s coming off and the same that is promised by MFP one to 2 lbs a week. At way more than 1200. Well 600 calories more anyway.

It`s not a party, but it`s doable. You know what I mean?

FlaxMilk

One reason that some people get frustrated is because *some* of the EM posts are pretty superior or moralizing to people who eat 1200 calories. However, using the fitness frog website, and the EM method, my calories on a day I don't exercise are ... 1220. On the days I do exercise, it only goes up to 1400. That's not laughable to me. That just stinks! But it is reality for me.

Helloitsdan

Sigh~ alright, I still don't quite get the TDEE thing but... I put in everything in yellow in the spreadsheet.

Age: 29
Sex: F (MTF, hormones have shifted~ so, calculating as F unless you know something I don't)
Current Weight: 161lbs
Goal Weight: 130 (We'll see~ ><)
Height: 65" (5'5")
Body Fat: 34.9% (Hush... )
Blood Type: O+
Sign: Pisces
Favorite Dish: Sushi

Kay so with all of that typed in, at Sedentary (which my buns are right now until I get myself moved in...)
BMR: 1397
TDEE: 1676

So Sedentary, I can only eat 1425 Calories a day to lose weight... is this correct? Mind you I will be doing exercise soon. I will, and I'll recalculate, but right now I want a Sedentary baseline. Am I looking at my numbers correctly? Because this is kind of what MFP has for me already.

Edit: Bah, I killed the thread.

Heres the problem.
TDEE of 1600 is if you are sedentary.
I highly doubt you sit around all day long and barely walk.

How often do you work out?
What kind of job do you have?
Do you commute?
Do you go out on the weekends?
Do you do chin ups every time you go into the basement?

Ladywindchaser

Please do yourself a favor and ask your Doctor!!!! When I asked mine, all (3) of them the answer was "NO!" They had reasons like I am a diabetic. Other type of diseases, age, weight, height, etc. Therefore I eat what my Int. Med. Dr. told me to eat. Which is the opposite of what MFP and others on here tell people to do.

People are giving you answers based on their own physical self. YOU R NOT THEM!!! Do what is right for you.

reneecgc

I have upped my calories and have lost weight. I was at 1200 and my trainer told me it was too low
so on my rest days I ate 1400 calories and I stayed around 1500 on days I worked out. My
friend tried upping her calories and it didn't work for her. I upped my calories for maintenance with
losing 5-10lbs more slowly in mind. My calories are at 1600-1700 and I have lost another 5lbs, I am 45 years
old, so I am no spring chicken. What I think made the biggest difference for me was weight training.
The more muscle you have the more your body burns calories. I take a body pump class at my
local YMCA that has you work with weights.