What role does faith play?
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What more could be said than that which we see around us every day and every night? Maybe we should all consider taking more time to look at the wonders which our Lord has created.
I thought Steve Jobs created my Ipod:noway:0 -
Our whole universe was in a hot dense state,
Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started. Wait...
The Earth began to cool,
The autotrophs began to drool,
Neanderthals developed tools,
We built a wall (we built the pyramids),
Math, science, history, unravelling the mysteries,
That all started with the big bang!
Since the dawn of man is really not that long,
As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song.
A fraction of a second and the elements were made.
The bipeds stood up straight,
The dinosaurs all met their fate,
They tried to leap but they were late
And they all died (they froze their *kitten* off)
The oceans and pangea
See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya
Set in motion by the same big bang!
It all started with the big BANG!
It's expanding ever outward but one day
It will cause the stars to go the other way,
Collapsing ever inward, we won't be here, it wont be hurt
Our best and brightest figure that it'll make an even bigger bang!
Australopithecus would really have been sick of us
Debating out while here they're catching deer (we're catching viruses)
Religion or astronomy, Encarta, Deuteronomy
It all started with the big bang!
I LOVE that song...especially the second stanza about Wolowitz and Koothropoli...0 -
More like......there is not enough evidence for a higher power. Therefore, the default position is to accept the Null Hypothesis until such time that there is enough evidence to change our minds on the subject. It's not that many atheists are not willing to accept that a higher power exists......it's just that we haven't seen any good reason to....yet.
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Have you ever seen a baby born? Watched a thunderstorn? Been healed of disease? Smelled wild flowers? Planted a garden? Felt truly loved?
Those are just a few reasons most folks find it impossible not to believe.
As yes......The Argument from the Ineffable.
Here's one for ya:
The Argument from Torquemada......See that burning stake over there? Therefore god exists.0 -
none. i motivate myself.0
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Oh wait! The role of Faith was played by Eliza Dushku!
She was Echo in the dolls house too wasn't she ?0 -
Just wanted to drop some truth in the thread to my Athiest buddy's out there:
Athiesm is still having FAITH that nothing higher exists. Just FYI.
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As for me... I
..."walk by faith, not by sight..." 2 Corinthians 5:7
FYI you're wrong. It requires no faith to not believe. Does it require faith for you NOT to believe in Bigfoot?
SOME (not Patti) Believers are so condescending and never even recognize it.
I disagree my friend. You believe there is no higher power, I believe there is... we both believe something. Whether it's Bigfoot, Aliens, or God... we are both believing in something, thus that is where our faith lies.0 -
:flowerforyou:Yes Patti, sorry...
knew she'd come and ruin my fun *kicks rocks*0 -
We all worship something, whether we acknowledge the Creator or not.
That being said, has anyone ever made love to an atheist before? How do they reword things when they climax? Or do they?0 -
An athiest has to have faith that there is no greater power. Therefore, atheists have faith. Honestly, I believe it takes more faith to not believe in God than to believe in God.
I believe you are misunderstanding what an atheist is :flowerforyou:
Your answer makes me wonder, and perhaps you can help us to understand you better.
From an atheist's point of view, what is "faith"?
As a believer in Jesus Christ I take faith from ......Heb 11:1 - 39 NIV translation of the bible.
Or for those who are atheist's. "Faith is the substance , ("the guaranty") of things hoped for, the evidence (or "convincing proof") of things not seen."
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Everything! If you don't believe that you can do it, it will not get done!0
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Having faith is believing without seeing. If the truth was right before your eyes, it wouldn't be "faith." Not trying to sound corny, but I hope each of you who are looking for a reason to believe, will find it.
No wonder there's so many issues with depression in this world :-( Thinking there is nothing at the end of the road is a pretty sad existence.0 -
I have enough faith to know I'm already going to hell so why worry about it?0
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I didn't think this thread could get any more ridiculous............That being said, has anyone ever made love to an atheist before? How do they reword things when they climax? Or do they?0 -
Just wanted to drop some truth in the thread to my Athiest buddy's out there:
Athiesm is still having FAITH that nothing higher exists. Just FYI.
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As for me... I
..."walk by faith, not by sight..." 2 Corinthians 5:7
FYI you're wrong. It requires no faith to not believe. Does it require faith for you NOT to believe in Bigfoot?
SOME (not Patti) Believers are so condescending and never even recognize it.
I disagree my friend. You believe there is no higher power, I believe there is... we both believe something. Whether it's Bigfoot, Aliens, or God... we are both believing in something, thus that is where our faith lies.
More like.....there's not enough solid evidence to accept that there is a higher power......just like there is not enough solid evidence to accept that there is a bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, etc. Lot's of really smart folks have been working on these questions.......not enough evidence.....therefore we can only accept the Null Hypothesis at the moment.0 -
I am very surprised in the post you received. More negative than positive.
I have faith in everything I do and I pray daily.
I'm not surprised. But ditto.0 -
Just wanted to drop some truth in the thread to my Athiest buddy's out there:
Athiesm is still having FAITH that nothing higher exists. Just FYI.
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As for me... I
..."walk by faith, not by sight..." 2 Corinthians 5:7
FYI you're wrong. It requires no faith to not believe. Does it require faith for you NOT to believe in Bigfoot?
SOME (not Patti) Believers are so condescending and never even recognize it.
I disagree my friend. You believe there is no higher power, I believe there is... we both believe something. Whether it's Bigfoot, Aliens, or God... we are both believing in something, thus that is where our faith lies.
"Believing something" is not faith. I believe my name is Brett. Because my parents named me that and mentioned it to me once. No faith required.
Because faith is believing without evidence. That's you, not me. Which is fine, but quit insisting that we're the same. We're not.0 -
What role did your faith play making you fat?0
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My faith is a strong encouragement to me. I choose to believe in Jesus Christ. Many people do not.
Simple as that.0 -
That being said, has anyone ever made love to an atheist before? How do they reword things when they climax? Or do they?
Dumb post of the day. :noway:0 -
Having faith is believing without seeing. If the truth was right before your eyes, it wouldn't be "faith." Not trying to sound corny, but I hope each of you who are looking for a reason to believe, will find it.
No wonder there's so many issues with depression in this world :-( Thinking there is nothing at the end of the road is a pretty sad existence.
As my father always said, "It's not the destination, its the journey."0 -
More like......there is not enough evidence for a higher power. Therefore, the default position is to accept the Null Hypothesis until such time that there is enough evidence to change our minds on the subject. It's not that many atheists are not willing to accept that a higher power exists......it's just that we haven't seen any good reason to....yet.
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Have you ever seen a baby born? Watched a thunderstorn? Been healed of disease? Smelled wild flowers? Planted a garden? Felt truly loved?
Those are just a few reasons most folks find it impossible not to believe.
As yes......The Argument from the Ineffable.
Here's one for ya:
The Argument from Torquemada......See that burning stake over there? Therefore god exists.
How would Athiests explain the creation of the universe, planets, etc? I've always wondered. Ok.. there was space dust hanging out there somewhere billions of years ago... then somehow something happened and the conditions were just right and BOOM, it all came together in a perfect storm. But wait... who put the space dust there? And what was there before the space dust? What about the dust of the space dust?
Someone, at some point put it there... things cannot come of nothing... for the Athiests who rely on science so heavily, I would think that simple fact would make the most sense to them.0 -
Good one. I will wait for the atheist to respond.We all worship something, whether we acknowledge the Creator or not.
That being said, has anyone ever made love to an atheist before? How do they reword things when they climax? Or do they?0 -
I asked this earlier, but I believe it got lost in the shuffle:
From an atheist's point of view, what is faith?
Faith is blind belief in something without any proof.
Then, we ALL have faith in something. No?
For some things, we (meaning all of us) have to accept anecdotal evidence or the results of the process of elimination, because there is currently no solid "proof" to back up what we believe to be true.
But are you willing to change your beliefs in the face of further research that God does not exist? Are you referring to science when you are talking about anecdotal evidence or process of elimination?
So, the point is not that you have faith, but that you're willing to give up your faith if a better alternative arises or if the object of faith fails?
And, yes, I was referring to science, although I think we're digressing from the original post! LOL
For instance, anyone interested in science knows that the foundational laws of science require us to believe that something cannot come from nothing, because matter cannot be created or destroyed. They also know that biogenesis dictates that life can only come from life. Thermodynamics teaches us that energy goes from a state of greater usefulness to lesser usefulness.
And yet, the same people that would ridicule a person for believing in a deity will argue until they're blue in the face that none of the above apply to the "theory" of evolution (quotations because it does not even qualify to be termed a theory) because it DID happen "somehow".
Those same people would turn their noses up at the many documented instances of miracles directly linked to prayer that baffles the science world because it's impossible. Since they haven't seen the kind of miracle they want that deity to perform, they have to conclude that the body "somehow" healed itself, and we just need to do some more research to figure out how to make it happen again.
Do you see where I'm coming from? I'm not bashing you or anyone else, but you need to realize that "believers" are not the only ones that have faith.
And, to answer your question... No, I wouldn't give up my own faith because of "proof" that the science world would offer, simply because it has proven itself to be unreliable and changing, while my own anecdotal evidence shows that the object of my faith is genuine.0 -
Trying to honor God with a healthy body & lifestyle. It's hard to not get too focussed on SELF when pursuing physical change/goals. I am thankful every day that God has given me an able body, a sound mind, resources to have at my disposal, and an abundance of freedom to choose how to honor Him.
To those who don't know Christ, these things sound foolish. But, I'll be a fool for the Gospel every day of my life!! :-)0 -
No wonder there's so many issues with depression in this world :-( Thinking there is nothing at the end of the road is a pretty sad existence.
actually I take comfort in it. That there is an END.
Can those arguing that atheists are something they are not stop and dirrect that to a new thread. The OP asked a good question, and FAITH is more than faith in a god so everyone has a right to answer.. this isnt just about religeon.
Please.. before the thread gets locked or deleted because you're being annoying with your "YOU MUST BELIEVE IN GOD" - not to mention giving other believers a bad rep :P0 -
I have a few blog posts that goes into how I put my faith into this...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Mama2SethandOlivia/view/my-body-is-his-temple-191566
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Mama2SethandOlivia/view/my-chains-are-gone-i-m-set-free-2306530 -
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I asked this earlier, but I believe it got lost in the shuffle:
From an atheist's point of view, what is faith?
Faith is blind belief in something without any proof.
Faith is also very dangerous because it leaves a person open for others to take advantage of them. We see this in the news all the time.....sometimes related to religious things......just as often there are con artists in the secular world. It all goes back to choosing to believe in stuff without any good proof to validate your choice.
Rational thinking, logic, and such are quite difficult things.....many folks don't even want to try. They would rather an authority figure tell them what the "guy-in-the-sky" wants....and call it faith....and try to make a virtue out of giving up their powers of reason.
Your "rationalization" here of why faith is dangerous couldn't be more off-point. Believers aren't all just a bunch of blind sheep without brains. *sigh* You are making a broad, sweeping statement that is accurate about only a very small percentage of believers - and chances are really good that those things would be true about them with or without God (or faith) in their life.0 -
I believe you have my stapler.0
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Having faith is believing without seeing. If the truth was right before your eyes, it wouldn't be "faith." Not trying to sound corny, but I hope each of you who are looking for a reason to believe, will find it.
No wonder there's so many issues with depression in this world :-( Thinking there is nothing at the end of the road is a pretty sad existence.
Glad to know you assume I live a sad existence!!
Actually I really don't care what is at the END of the road because it is just that THE END. How you travel the road is what matters, what one does while living and breathing is important. Just because I don't "believe" or go to church on Sunday doesn't make my existence a sad one!0
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