Paleo diet

000WhiteRose000

I've started the Paleo (Primal) diet a couple of days ago.
Has anyone here tried it? What were your experiences?

If you are eating Paleo, please add me :-)

straightjacketjacob

Thats how I try to eat when I'm not cutting weight for a fight. It made me much leaner and more anobolic. Its hard for me to stay on it do to having small children that are picky eaters I always give in and eat that pizza

Dave198lbs

I have cut out grains and have felt a big improvement. I still eat dairy so I'm not actually paleo and the initial reason I cut out grains wasnt for a paleo path. The overall approach to cutting out crap and getting more veggies and protein seems like a win win.

There are a few haters here so dont let them derail you.

Restaurants are easier than you might think. Steak or chicken or fish with steamed veggies.

I feel really good without grains in my diet and the calories I used to take up with grains are now taken up with more meat, veggies and nuts.


good luck

victoria4321

I have cut out grains and have felt a big improvement. I still eat dairy so I'm not actually paleo and the initial reason I cut out grains wasnt for a paleo path. The overall approach to cutting out crap and getting more veggies and protein seems like a win win.

There are a few haters here so dont let them derail you.

Restaurants are easier than you might think. Steak or chicken or fish with steamed veggies.

I feel really good without grains in my diet and the calories I used to take up with grains are now taken up with more meat, veggies and nuts.


good luck

This pretty much. I cut out grains a while ago. I don't follow it 100% though. Sometimes I have sugar in my coffee and I occasionally have ice cream. So its probably more primal since I use dairy. Paleo stresses only lean cuts of meat too but I still use some fatty cuts of its grass fed and finished.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Thats how I try to eat when I'm not cutting weight for a fight. It made me much leaner and more anobolic. Its hard for me to stay on it do to having small children that are picky eaters I always give in and eat that pizza

Just eat the toppings off the pizza and a big salad with it!!! That white flour crust is bland and the just a carrier for the toppings anyway!

PaleoPath4Lyfe

I have cut out grains and have felt a big improvement. I still eat dairy so I'm not actually paleo and the initial reason I cut out grains wasnt for a paleo path. The overall approach to cutting out crap and getting more veggies and protein seems like a win win.

There are a few haters here so dont let them derail you.

Restaurants are easier than you might think. Steak or chicken or fish with steamed veggies.

I feel really good without grains in my diet and the calories I used to take up with grains are now taken up with more meat, veggies and nuts.


good luck

This pretty much. I cut out grains a while ago. I don't follow it 100% though. Sometimes I have sugar in my coffee and I occasionally have ice cream. So its probably more primal since I use dairy. Paleo stresses only lean cuts of meat too but I still use some fatty cuts of its grass fed and finished.

We have ice cream in our household too. I do make it home made (used to be the only ice cream I would eat) and occasionally we go to a local ice cream shop called White Cottage who has sugar-free ice cream which they make all of their ice cream fresh made everyday also.

Dairy is paleo in your lifestyle if YOUR body is tolerant to it. Raw dairy is preferred because the good bacteria is in it which gets destroyed by the homogenization and pasteurization process.

We had strawberries with fresh made whipped cream last night after supper. We get raw dairy from local Amish and other local farmers.

victoria4321

I have cut out grains and have felt a big improvement. I still eat dairy so I'm not actually paleo and the initial reason I cut out grains wasnt for a paleo path. The overall approach to cutting out crap and getting more veggies and protein seems like a win win.

There are a few haters here so dont let them derail you.

Restaurants are easier than you might think. Steak or chicken or fish with steamed veggies.

I feel really good without grains in my diet and the calories I used to take up with grains are now taken up with more meat, veggies and nuts.


good luck

This pretty much. I cut out grains a while ago. I don't follow it 100% though. Sometimes I have sugar in my coffee and I occasionally have ice cream. So its probably more primal since I use dairy. Paleo stresses only lean cuts of meat too but I still use some fatty cuts of its grass fed and finished.

We have ice cream in our household too. I do make it home made (used to be the only ice cream I would eat) and occasionally we go to a local ice cream shop called White Cottage who has sugar-free ice cream which they make all of their ice cream fresh made everyday also.

Dairy is paleo in your lifestyle if YOUR body is tolerant to it. Raw dairy is preferred because the good bacteria is in it which gets destroyed by the homogenization and pasteurization process.

We had strawberries with fresh made whipped cream last night after supper. We get raw dairy from local Amish and other local farmers.

I was thinking about making my own ice cream. I get raw dairy from a coop that delivers here. What kind of sweetener do you use? I was thinking to use honey or sugar in the raw. Do you have any good recipes for coconut milk ice cream too? That's another one I always buy.

3lilkids

The husband and I have been talking about it for 6 months, just started last week while kids were out of town. Doing it for weight control, but even moreso for health benefits. Makes a lot of sense. Would love to see posts on this subject. What we've read goes against lean meats. 50% fat, 30% protein, 20% carbs. MFP is an excellent way to keep track. We have found that although we are not concerned about calories, we are both under or at calorie counts, and stay very satisfied. No dairy for us, except cheese, haven't been able to give it up. Looking for a birthday cake recipe for the husband now.

000WhiteRose000

What is the deal with dairy? If it's full fat and organic, and your body can tolerate it - is it a problem?

michaelfurey

Here's the basic problem with the Paleo diet: it is not based on any sort of historical facts. The cavemen Mark Sisson and others who espouse this diet only had a life expectancy of about 45 years. And we have learned that certain things are better for you than others. It's called EVOLUTION, and we are living it every day. This is essentially a low carb diet, with most of your carbs coming from fruits, veggies, and nuts. You don't, however, see a lot of athletes using this diet because they would gas out. Just a thought.

waldo56

It made me much leaner and more anobolic.

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This is about like saying made me much faster when laying down.

aggiesrar05

Dairy is paleo in your lifestyle if YOUR body is tolerant to it. Raw dairy is preferred because the good bacteria is in it which gets destroyed by the homogenization and pasteurization process.

This "fact" about pasteurization is blatantly not true. In the past year there has been a severe increase in disease outbreak and deaths because of the increased consumption of raw milk.

Types of bacteria that are in raw milk can include Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis, Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing E. coli, Shigella, Streptococcus pyogenes, and Yersinia enterocolitica. NONE of these are good bacteria!

Reference - http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-questions-and-answers.html
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/safety/story/2012-02-21/Raw-milk-causes-most-illnesses-from-dairy/53196680/1 (there is peer reviewed journal reference from EID in that story)

michaelfurey

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

Jipples

I'm only a week in, but so far, I feel great and dropped a little over 5lbs.

ElleBee66

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

Dave198lbs

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

exactly....I just dont get how people want to label this as a fad. For me, getting away from most fast food and most over processed convenience foods is not a fad, It just seems like the right thing to do.

Jipples

Here's the basic problem with the Paleo diet: it is not based on any sort of historical facts. The cavemen Mark Sisson and others who espouse this diet only had a life expectancy of about 45 years. And we have learned that certain things are better for you than others. It's called EVOLUTION, and we are living it every day. This is essentially a low carb diet, with most of your carbs coming from fruits, veggies, and nuts. You don't, however, see a lot of athletes using this diet because they would gas out. Just a thought.

It's not just a low carb diet. Argue the point that we SHOULD eat processed foods with additives for me. I dont need historical facts to reason that avoiding processed foods isn't that bad of an idea. Is it the ONLY way, no. But it's not a bad way.

RonSwanson66

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

victoria4321

Dairy is paleo in your lifestyle if YOUR body is tolerant to it. Raw dairy is preferred because the good bacteria is in it which gets destroyed by the homogenization and pasteurization process.

This "fact" about pasteurization is blatantly not true. In the past year there has been a severe increase in disease outbreak and deaths because of the increased consumption of raw milk.

Types of bacteria that are in raw milk can include Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis, Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing E. coli, Shigella, Streptococcus pyogenes, and Yersinia enterocolitica. NONE of these are good bacteria!

Reference - http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-questions-and-answers.html
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/safety/story/2012-02-21/Raw-milk-causes-most-illnesses-from-dairy/53196680/1 (there is peer reviewed journal reference from EID in that story)

That depends on your source and health of the cows. I've been using raw dairy for a while now. I have issues tolerating whole milk usually but i'm fine with it raw.

Jipples

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Dude, you are like a gnat.

RonSwanson66

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Dude, you are like a gnat.

As long as people continue to spout nonsense. I'll continue to debunk it.

victoria4321

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Dude, you are like a gnat.

No need for all that.

What do you think about the quality of our grains compared to what people ate way back? Isnt that enough to make it worth limiting or eliminating?

RonSwanson66

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Dude, you are like a gnat.

No need for all that.

What do you think about the quality of our grains compared to what people ate way back? Isnt that enough to make it worth limiting or eliminating?

By that rationale we should eliminate all the fruits and veggies we eat too.

weathergirl320

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Wtf is wrong with you? I have said this countless times and so have many others. The paleo diet isn't about being historically accurate to anT, its about eating as close to nature as possible. Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp? Can yoy say that eating chemical laden processed food like products is better than eating local whole foods? Why can't you comprehend this simple concept of eating as close to nature as possible in a modern world? Because thats what this diet is about. Not following to a T what some obscure tribe or culture ate thousands of years ago. Get over it your making a fool of yourself. And your argument is weak. Show me a study that shows eating crap is HEALTHIER for you than whole natural foods. abd by healthy I don't mean low calorie. I mean nutritious.

RonSwanson66

Remember people, most fad diets are just that...fads. Eat less. Do more. Go hard.

There is nothing faddy about eating lots of vegetables, meat, fish, eggs fruit. Its what humans are meant to eat - not processed grass seeds.

What make you think we weren't "meant to eat" grain.

Paleotarded propaganda?

Mercader J. Mozambican grass seed consumption during the middle stone age. Science. (2009) 326(5960):1680-3.

The role of starchy plants in early hominin diets and when the culinary processing of starches began have been difficult to track archaeologically. Seed collecting is conventionally perceived to have been an irrelevant activity among the Pleistocene foragers of southern Africa, on the grounds of both technological difficulty in the processing of grains and the belief that roots, fruits, and nuts, not cereals, were the basis for subsistence for the past 100,000 years and further back in time. A large assemblage of starch granules has been retrieved from the surfaces of Middle Stone Age stone tools from Mozambique, showing that early Homo sapiens relied on grass seeds starting at least 105,000 years ago, including those of sorghum grasses.

Wtf is wrong with you? I have said this countless times and so have many others. The paleo diet isn't about being historically accurate to anT, its about eating as close to nature as possible. Why is that such a hard concept for you to grasp? Can yoy say that eating chemical laden processed food like products is better than eating local whole foods? Why can't you comprehend this simple concept of eating as close to nature as possible in a modern world? Because thats what this diet is about. Not following to a T what some obscure tribe or culture ate thousands of years ago. Get over it your making a fool of yourself. And your argument is weak. Show me a study that shows eating crap is HEALTHIER for you than whole natural foods. abd by healthy I don't mean low calorie. I mean nutritious.

Try reading my actual posts.

Nobody's arguing against making whole minimally processed foods the basis of your diet. The idiocy is in the arbitrary exclusion of perfectly healthy whole foods such as grains, legumes and dairy.

aggiesrar05

Dairy is paleo in your lifestyle if YOUR body is tolerant to it. Raw dairy is preferred because the good bacteria is in it which gets destroyed by the homogenization and pasteurization process.

This "fact" about pasteurization is blatantly not true. In the past year there has been a severe increase in disease outbreak and deaths because of the increased consumption of raw milk.

Types of bacteria that are in raw milk can include Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis, Salmonella, Shiga toxin-producing E. coli, Shigella, Streptococcus pyogenes, and Yersinia enterocolitica. NONE of these are good bacteria!

Reference - http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-questions-and-answers.html
http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/safety/story/2012-02-21/Raw-milk-causes-most-illnesses-from-dairy/53196680/1 (there is peer reviewed journal reference from EID in that story)

That depends on your source and health of the cows. I've been using raw dairy for a while now. I have issues tolerating whole milk usually but i'm fine with it raw.

That is very much true. I was just pointing out that pasteurization kills all bacteria... the majority of the time if there is bacteria present in milk then is is NOT good bacteria. Milk should be sterile coming out of the cow, unless it is contaminated at the nipple or if the cow has some sort of infection.

If it works for you then go for it!

--Edited because when I went back and read it, what I said could be seriously twisted around...

JoshuaL86

I'm reading this while eating a big bowl of corn. Lol, sorry I couldn't resist. Carry on.

coloradocami

It is always a good choice to eat REAL FOOD and to use our bodies the way we were designed to. I'm not a strict follower but I think there is a lot of valid points in the diet.
Good luck!
Cami

victoria4321

What do you think about the quality of our grains compared to what people ate way back? Isnt that enough to make it worth limiting or eliminating?

By that rationale we should eliminate all the fruits and veggies we eat too.
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How so? You can buy heirloom varities of many fruits and veg plus theres more variety across the board. I know the quality is definitely down but it isnt has bad as grains. People get most of their grains in the most processed forms regular basis. I'm not deamonizing grains but you can do without them and probably be better off.

Rdahl2

I have tried the Paleo diet a while back and actually liked it. I felt so much better, more energy and so on. I now just try to follow a lean meat, more veggie diet and limit eating starches to once a week. I love my pasta and garlic bread..lol. :laugh:

michaelfurey

The people making fools of themselves are those that believe that healthy grains, like brown rice, or whole wheat bread (especially bread made yourself) is any further from "natural" than eating veggies and lean meats. Rice is a staple in the diets of the most healthy people on the planet. And dwarf wheat saved an entire population from starvation. Eating naturally is a great thing, but grains are natural, if you eat them correctly. And if you people want performance, name me an endurance athlete that eats strictly paleo. You need carbs from grains to round out a balanced diet, especially if you are an endurance athlete. Whole wheat pasta, long grain brown rice, and natural multi-grain bread are vital contributors to a well-balanced diet. I've tried paleo. I've tried atkins, south beach, Mediterranean, you name it. If you want a total eating plan, try the Biggest Loser diet. No fads, no gimmicks, just sound nutritional advice based in real science, not "common sense" ethereal garbage.