Bacon is better then peanutbutter! (protein)

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  • Treece68
    Treece68 Posts: 780 Member
    I always thought it was odd my neighbor was doing Atkins and she could eat a pound a bacon but no peanut butter, A whole bag of pork rinds but no apples. Dumb!
  • _Dan_
    _Dan_ Posts: 55 Member
    I always thought it was odd my neighbor was doing Atkins and she could eat a pound a bacon but no peanut butter, A whole bag of pork rinds but no apples. Dumb!

    DING! DING! DING! DING!
  • amehime
    amehime Posts: 49 Member
    There is this great product called PB2 that you can get on amazon - it's peanut butter with the oils squeezed out. It comes in a powder, so you just add water or throw it in dressings, sauces, or smoothies. Something like 40 calories/2TBS. I think both peanut butter and bacon can be enjoyed, however, if you're mindful about it.
  • shar140
    shar140 Posts: 1,158 Member
    I wouldn't necessarily say peanut butter has "healthy" fats - even for the "reduced fat" version, the omega-6 to omega-3 fat ratio is 175:1. (reference: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/7407/2) (the regular version was 180:1.)

    Bacon? omega-6 to omega-3 ratio of 22. (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/7356/2)

    "Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408140)

    "Dietary changes over the past few decades in the intake of n-6 and n-3 PUFA show striking increases in the (n-6) to (n-3) ratio (~15 : 1), which are associated with greater metabolism of the n-6 PUFA compared with n-3 PUFA. Coinciding with this increase in the ratio of (n-6) : (n-3) PUFA are increases in chronic inflammatory diseases such as nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), cardiovascular disease, obesity, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), rheumatoid arthritis, and Alzheimer's disease (AD)." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22570770)

    Sure, you could take omega-3 supplements to offset the peanut butter's omega-6 fat, but that's a LOT of fishy breath.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    I wouldn't necessarily say peanut butter has "healthy" fats - even for the "reduced fat" version, the omega-6 to omega-3 fat ratio is 175:1. (reference: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/7407/2) (the regular version was 180:1.)

    Bacon? omega-6 to omega-3 ratio of 22. (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/7356/2)

    "Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today's Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases, whereas increased levels of omega-3 PUFA (a low omega-6/omega-3 ratio) exert suppressive effects." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408140)

    "Dietary changes over the past few decades in the intake of n-6 and n-3 PUFA show striking increases in the (n-6) to (n-3) ratio (~15 : 1), which are associated with greater metabolism of the n-6 PUFA compared with n-3 PUFA. Coinciding with this increase in the ratio of (n-6) : (n-3) PUFA are increases in chronic inflammatory diseases such as nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), cardiovascular disease, obesity, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), rheumatoid arthritis, and Alzheimer's disease (AD)." (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22570770)

    Sure, you could take omega-3 supplements to offset the peanut butter's omega-6 fat, but that's a LOT of fishy breath.
    Ok, so I need to try some fish with a layer of bacon glued to it with peanut butter. Got it.
  • tinabell153
    tinabell153 Posts: 292 Member
    I heard somewhere that you are only supposed to have 2 pieces of bacon a year because of how unhealthy it is for you.

    Don't put down PB so quickly. It is not as unhealthy as you are making it out to be. It's got minerals and healthy fats and it still considered a good source of protein.
  • focus4fitness
    focus4fitness Posts: 551 Member
    Peanut butter has healthy fat. It's a good source of protein, but it's a better source of fat.

    This and Bacon, while I like bacon, most kinds are full of nitrates that cause cancer.
  • cheesy_blasters
    cheesy_blasters Posts: 283 Member
    I love bacon so much if there was a Bacon scented Fabreze, my house would smell like bacon all the time. You know those I married bacon commercials? DId I say I love bacon yet?

    Here you go
    http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/ea0c/?srp=4
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    Bacon and Peanut Butter both have their places in my life.. But I will take Bacon over Peanut Butter any day.

    Nothing better then Bacon and Eggs or Bacon, Egg and Cheese Bagel.. Yum yum!
  • MtnKat
    MtnKat Posts: 714
    Bacon is the most perfect food in the world....at least IMHO

    Not because of nutrition lol...but it TASTE SO GOOD!

    I could eat it everyday!

    Fortunately I don't or I would have a lot more weight to lose lol

    Meh. Peanut butter is good too...it's best with apples :-)
  • rextcat
    rextcat Posts: 1,408 Member
    man why dose everyone got to hate on peanutbutter....:::dips her bacon in jiffy jar:::::::: its drishosh:bigsmile:
  • marieautumn
    marieautumn Posts: 928 Member
    i love bacon...and i agree...peanut butter is not as good for you as people try to claim. i use PB2 instead if i need to make something with peanut butter in it.
  • morgansmom02
    morgansmom02 Posts: 1,131 Member
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  • morgansmom02
    morgansmom02 Posts: 1,131 Member
    Peanut butter has healthy fat. It's a good source of protein, but it's a better source of fat.

    This and Bacon, while I like bacon, most kinds are full of nitrates that cause cancer.

    Several decades ago, some researchers raised the possibility that nitrites could be linked to cancer in laboratory rats. This suggestion received a lot of media attention. What received less media attention, however, was when it turned out that they were wrong. Indeed, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Cancer Society and the National Research Council all agree that there's no cancer risk from consuming sodium nitrite.
  • Jay_Jay_
    Jay_Jay_ Posts: 194 Member
    Don't get me wrong, I love bacon, but you're not showing the whole picture. Bacon has more sodium and cholesterol, less fiber and potassium, and higher saturated fat... the generics may look better, but when you do a FULL comparison, I would rather have pb instead of bacon for health reasons ;-)

    There is no valid scientific proof that sodium affects a healthy normal human being, the same goes for cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol is NOT as bad as its been made out to be. When you lower dietary cholesterol, your liver simply makes more. Thats how the body works. When you eat PB you are shoving sugar into your body which is far worse than cholesterol, peanuts are a BEAN, not a nut. Almond butter would be a far better choice than PB if you really have a dislike of bacon that goes beyond the misinformation.
  • cdngrl81
    cdngrl81 Posts: 434 Member
    Don't get me wrong, I love bacon, but you're not showing the whole picture. Bacon has more sodium and cholesterol, less fiber and potassium, and higher saturated fat... the generics may look better, but when you do a FULL comparison, I would rather have pb instead of bacon for health reasons ;-)

    There is no valid scientific proof that sodium affects a healthy normal human being, the same goes for cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol is NOT as bad as its been made out to be. When you lower dietary cholesterol, your liver simply makes more. Thats how the body works. When you eat PB you are shoving sugar into your body which is far worse than cholesterol, peanuts are a BEAN, not a nut. Almond butter would be a far better choice than PB if you really have a dislike of bacon that goes beyond the misinformation.

    ^^^So true. And I LOVE almond butter!
  • L00py_T0ucan
    L00py_T0ucan Posts: 1,378 Member
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    I also vote BOTH/AND. Why do we have to choose? Why can't we like BOTH? :laugh: :wink:
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
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    :love: :love: :love:

    Though if protein was your primary goal you could skip the bread and just dip the bacon straight in the peanut butter, or crumble the bacon into the peanut butter.

    Not that I'm carb-adverse. But I'd certainly choose a multigrain bread at least. LOL.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    yeah if you like killing pigs :wink:
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
    I also vote BOTH/AND. Why do we have to choose? Why can't we like BOTH? :laugh: :wink:

    "Hey, you got bacon in my peanut butter!"
    "Hey, you got peanut butter on my bacon!"

    The start of a beautiful lifetime together. LOL
  • smareeh
    smareeh Posts: 117 Member
    There is this great product called PB2 that you can get on amazon - it's peanut butter with the oils squeezed out. It comes in a powder, so you just add water or throw it in dressings, sauces, or smoothies. Something like 40 calories/2TBS. I think both peanut butter and bacon can be enjoyed, however, if you're mindful about it.


    I LOVE PB2
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
    I always thought it was odd my neighbor was doing Atkins and she could eat a pound a bacon but no peanut butter, A whole bag of pork rinds but no apples. Dumb!

    Why must diets that differ from one's own always be called "dumb"? Atkins is not my preferred eating plan (I loves me my carbs, and the "American balanced" diet is working well for me), but there are other ways to survive and thrive.
  • EmmaM2211
    EmmaM2211 Posts: 536 Member
    So now I'm going home to have a PB and bacon sandwich - I dont even care if its vile - it has to be tried - I'm craving both now!!!
  • Kityngirl
    Kityngirl Posts: 14,304 Member
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    I also vote BOTH/AND. Why do we have to choose? Why can't we like BOTH? :laugh: :wink:

    Seriously. I know what is for breakfast tomorrow. *drool*
  • Katutsa
    Katutsa Posts: 8
    We love bacon....AND peanut butter.
  • shamr0ck
    shamr0ck Posts: 296 Member
    How many calories are from fat?

    10 calorie difference and the same fat is NOT a convincing argument since PB has good fat and bacon has bad fat.

    Um... calories from fat are based on the number of grams of fat. 10grams of fat is 90 calories, whether it is meat or vegetable based.
  • GR1966
    GR1966 Posts: 3 Member
    Who doesn't LOVE bacon....but if its protein you want, then go for fat free yogurt and tuna...not together of course. Yogurt and Tuna are both amazing sources of proten and very low in fat.
  • focus4fitness
    focus4fitness Posts: 551 Member
    Peanut butter has healthy fat. It's a good source of protein, but it's a better source of fat.

    This and Bacon, while I like bacon, most kinds are full of nitrates that cause cancer.

    Several decades ago, some researchers raised the possibility that nitrites could be linked to cancer in laboratory rats. This suggestion received a lot of media attention. What received less media attention, however, was when it turned out that they were wrong. Indeed, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Cancer Society and the National Research Council all agree that there's no cancer risk from consuming sodium nitrite.

    You really shouldn't copy and paste someone elses words on the internet without quoting and linking where those words came from.

    They cant find a hard link, but it is suspected. That is not the same as, "they all agree there is no risk"

    http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2012/lousylabels/processedmeat.html

    http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/News/ExpertVoices/post/2011/03/31/Hot-dog!-Headlines-Can-Be-Deceiving.aspx

    They are bad for you in other ways as well.

    "Just how much of a concern are these processed meats in terms of cancer risk? A number of studies have suggested that people who eat even a relatively small amount of them over many years can increase the risk of colorectal cancer. In a study our American Cancer Society researchers published in the Journal of the American Medical Association a few years ago, high consumption of processed meat over 10 years was associated with a 50 percent increased risk in cancer of the lower colon and rectum. High consumption was defined as 1 oz. per day, 5-6 times per week for men, and 1 oz. per day, 2-3 days per week for women. (To give you a frame of reference, the typical bun length hot dog is about 2 oz.; 2 slices of cooked bacon are about an ounce)."
    From above cancer society link
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    Peanut butter has healthy fat. It's a good source of protein, but it's a better source of fat.

    This and Bacon, while I like bacon, most kinds are full of nitrates that cause cancer.

    Several decades ago, some researchers raised the possibility that nitrites could be linked to cancer in laboratory rats. This suggestion received a lot of media attention. What received less media attention, however, was when it turned out that they were wrong. Indeed, the National Academy of Sciences, the American Cancer Society and the National Research Council all agree that there's no cancer risk from consuming sodium nitrite.

    You really shouldn't copy and paste someone elses words on the internet without quoting and linking where those words came from.

    They cant find a hard link, but it is suspected. That is not the same as, "they all agree there is no risk"

    http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/2012/lousylabels/processedmeat.html

    http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/News/ExpertVoices/post/2011/03/31/Hot-dog!-Headlines-Can-Be-Deceiving.aspx

    They are bad for you in other ways as well.

    "Just how much of a concern are these processed meats in terms of cancer risk? A number of studies have suggested that people who eat even a relatively small amount of them over many years can increase the risk of colorectal cancer. In a study our American Cancer Society researchers published in the Journal of the American Medical Association a few years ago, high consumption of processed meat over 10 years was associated with a 50 percent increased risk in cancer of the lower colon and rectum. High consumption was defined as 1 oz. per day, 5-6 times per week for men, and 1 oz. per day, 2-3 days per week for women. (To give you a frame of reference, the typical bun length hot dog is about 2 oz.; 2 slices of cooked bacon are about an ounce)."
    From above cancer society link
    Most people don't eat the same thing every single day, especially bacon, except maybe the guys from epic mealtime, even if there was a grain of truth to that. The real truth is, nobody knows what cures or causes cancer yet or it wouldn't be a problem. What causes cancer today, cures it tomorrow. I'd just stop worshipping pundits as word of god and eat what I normally eat.
  • Sean_The_IT_Guy
    Sean_The_IT_Guy Posts: 168
    yeah if you like killing pigs :wink:
    Well who the heck DOESN'T?

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