Slow Runners Unite - How to Increase Speed?!?!?!

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  • RaeN81
    RaeN81 Posts: 534 Member
    Speed work is often done through interval training. I have been working on this. 6.0 mph is my comfortable fast pace but I can push into 7.0 for short .25 mile bursts. Hoping to lengthen the bursts and keep the base pace higher. Even at my fastest I am just barely able to do a 9 min mile. I have found that you can actually have the same as your base pace if you run for 4 min and brisk walk for 1 min. I really have tested this theory and it holds true for me, might be something to try.
  • Angelie28
    Angelie28 Posts: 197 Member
    bump
  • Pebble321
    Pebble321 Posts: 6,423 Member
    I think you need to get faster - slowly!
    I know that sounds dumb, but what I mean is that you would be wise to increase mileage and build in speedwork (intervals, fartleks) at a slow and steady pace.
    I pushed myself through a half marathon training program with a time goal last year and ended up with an injury that prevented me running 21.1 (I swapped to 10k). With hindsight, I think it was too much too soon.
  • lacewitch
    lacewitch Posts: 766 Member
    interval training is meant to be good for this.
  • RAF_Guy
    RAF_Guy Posts: 230 Member
    Obviously, everybody is different, but for me the secret was to get a uniform cadence going.

    By that I mean, make sure you run with your feet hitting the ground at regular intervals, about 180 paces per minute. Once you get used to running at this pace, you can then start to increase your stride, but not your cadence, when you feel good. If you start to feel too out of breath, reduce your stride length. Using this techinque I was able to take 2 minutes off my 5km run in a matter of a couple of weeks.
  • NakAttack
    NakAttack Posts: 64 Member
    Once again, thank you for all of the words of advice and encouragement. I am going to try a few things today and see how it goes!
  • jgic2009
    jgic2009 Posts: 531 Member
    As mentioned, fartleks are a great training tool.

    You could also add in some hill workouts and more structured intervals.

    And, as with all things related to health and fitness: be patient.
  • LanderRose81
    LanderRose81 Posts: 237 Member
    This is all great advice!

    I have run a few 5ks with times between 39 - 42 minutes. I was off for a while with some knee injuries and so I thought I would use the C25K program to get back into running. I am loving it! But - I will want to work on my speed once I finish the program! As I am also a very slow runner. :ohwell:

    But hey - at least we are all OUT THERE moving! :drinker:
  • montana_girl
    montana_girl Posts: 1,403 Member
    I was a slower runner (okay, still am compared to a lot of runners), but I'm improving. I have only been running about 3 years and the first 2 years I was pretty much at a 11:30-12:00 minute mile. But this last year, my speed has been improving greatly. And honestly, I couldn't tell you why! :huh:

    I have always run three days a week (two short runs and a long training run for half marathons), but in the last 6 to 8 months I have been more consistant with my strength training (as in, I haven't been blowing it off to lay on the couch LOL). And without realizing it, I was incorporating Fartleks into my short runs. I would run for about a mile, then do short sprint, back to my normal pace to get my breathing under control, then another short sprint.

    Must be working, because most of my runs since April have been under an 11 minute mile... with my best pace last weekend. I did a 10K race and finished with 10:06 pace per mile! :noway:

    So my best advice, just keep running. Pick a day to be your "long run" day and start increasing your miles. Pick one of your short runs to do intervals/sprints or Fartleks. And do some strenght training -- especially for your core muscles.

    You will get faster... and it may happen when you least expect it! :flowerforyou:
  • InTheInbetween
    InTheInbetween Posts: 192 Member
    Fartleks and Intervals, fartleks and intervals, fartleks and intervals!!

    (I know it's already been said, I'm just reaffirming it! :wink: )
  • pkfrankel
    pkfrankel Posts: 171 Member
    I started running in Sept 2010 with the C25K program. Since then I've completed my first half marathon and run numerous races. I currently work with a running coach and this is what we do to increase speed.

    1. In order to run faster... you have to run faster. I wanted to slap her the first time she said that to me. What she means is speed intervals. For example. After a warm up of a half to one mile run 30 seconds as fast as possible (you should feel like you can't run another step by the end of the 30 seconds), then trot (or even walk) a recovery interval of 60 seconds. Repeat this 6-12 times. Then cool down with a casual paced mile. As you get better at it, increase the speed intervals (45 seconds, 60 seconds, until about 90 secons). Your recovery interval should be twice as long as your speed interval. Do this work out once a week faithfully and you WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE!

    Hope this helps.

    I wondered how many posts I would read until I read the right answer! "in order to run faster…you have to run faster." In order to cycle faster… you have to cycle faster. In order to swim faster… you get the idea.

    Running speed intervals are vital for increasing speed. But you will not increase your 5K times by running two minute intervals alone. Your running should be a mix of speed and distance. Endurance is a key to having the lung capacity to run faster. Mix longer distances at "current" pace with shorter distances at "goal" pace and intervals at "all out" pace.

    For example, if you can run 5 miles in 60:00, run that distance two or three times a week. Run 2 miles at a faster pace maybe 11:00 per mile one or two times a week, run intervals one or two times a week. Break up speed work with long runs or rest days.

    Be careful not to set your goals to high. It will take some time to get from 12 minute pace to 10 minute pace to 8 minute pace. Keep mixing in speed work in your running and you will get there.
  • KF1216
    KF1216 Posts: 175 Member
    Love this thread! When I started getting serious about running in January my goal was to run a 5k in under 36. In April I ran one in 34! (Not in a race, just in my own) Now I can run 4 miles maintaining about 11min miles but am trouble getting any faster than that. My first 5k race was 33:33 which I was tremendously proud of, but my new goal is to run 5k in under 30 and at this rate I won't be racing until the fall. I've done a little interval work but need to make sure I'm doing it more regularly.
  • Junie1979
    Junie1979 Posts: 11
    hilarious...me too...I can totally relate.
  • wheezybreezy
    wheezybreezy Posts: 313 Member
    bump!
  • CaroseH
    CaroseH Posts: 72
    Bump!
  • cdabev
    cdabev Posts: 1
    Thank you all for the valuable info. I have just read!!!! I JUST started running....April 1 of this year.....walking first for a while and gradually started "slow" running.......trust me, when I say slow. I LOVE it and can't wait to get better. I go out 5 days a week and take 2 off ( want to go thoses 2 days but I was told to break). I'm only up to 2.7 miles and break 10" half way at a friends ( for water)....but this is WAY more than I used to do.....nothing. Since Jan. 3 of this year I have lost 39 lbs. ....and hope to never find it again!!! Hahaha!!!.....I would like to get alittle faster with my running and all your input has truely helped........thank you soooo much!!!
  • gracieabem
    gracieabem Posts: 211
    Saving this for later. This is really valuable for me as a slow runner!
  • AliciaBeth78
    AliciaBeth78 Posts: 437 Member
    Me too!! I was so excited yesterday to run an avg of 12 minutes per mile for 3.6 miles yesterday! Totally embarassing! :(
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    Intervals!

    I started using this app called couch to 5k for it. hmm. since you just did week 9 you know how it works.
    This is what I did.

    5 minute warm up. . at my regular jogging/running speed, none of this walking stuff.
    60 seconds run .. FAST!! go fast hard. Ouch!
    90 seconds rest. . back down to my running speed, or walk if its too much
    repeat.
    warm down.. I finish with another run at my normal pace, or slower by this point.

    Someone told me its about building up your lactic acid tolerance, so the slow bits don't matter so much.
    You can do this up for the first few weeks. I ended up using Runkeeper now to make my own.

    5 min warmup (runjog)
    3 min Fast run
    5 min slow run
    repeat.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    I am such a penguin
  • L00py_T0ucan
    L00py_T0ucan Posts: 1,378 Member
    You might want to check this out over at Runner's World:

    http://askcoachjenny.runnersworld.com/2010/11/newie-runner-learning-to-run-a-faster-5k.html/comment-page-1#comment-1752

    I am still at Step One, which is building up base mileage, so I don't have a lot of experience with which to advise you, but I found this article to be helpful.
    Best of luck! :flowerforyou: :glasses:
  • sbrBirdy
    sbrBirdy Posts: 224 Member
    Agreeing with the others... Intervals are great for increasing speed. Focus on quick leg turn over. I also saw a huge improvement in my time when I added strength training and HIIT (which is pretty close to really short but fast intervals). Also, running at an incline - or up hills - is speed work in disguise.
  • katemateg
    katemateg Posts: 334 Member
    I plodded for about 8 years, then I joined a club and suddenly had to go much faster to keep up! But I could, I'd just never known how to push myself before. So fast running friends are ideal. The lighter I am, the faster I run too. Plus I run on average 4-5 times a week and do various distances, intervals, hills, fartlek etc and cross train with swimming and cycling and free weights etc.

    I started off doing a 4.23 hr marathon, down to 3.50 now
    2.01 hr half marathon down to 1.44 now
    60 minute 10k down to 46 minutes now

    Good luck!!

    It will give you such a buzz getting quicker :laugh:
  • enewsome2
    enewsome2 Posts: 355 Member
    I am such a penguin

    Lol! I love the wording here. I am, too, a penguin.

    I started running about 3 months ago, and the fastest I have ever gone is an 11:30 mile. I was so excited!!

    I have friends that run a lot and the advice given to me was to tone my legs/butt. If you have bigger muscles in your lower body, you are able to propel yourself forward at a faster pace.

    And, of course, intervals are supposed to be the best.

    Good luck to all of you. We will gain speed!
  • natalie412
    natalie412 Posts: 1,039 Member
    I have not done interval training yet (but I see it in my future - LOL), but I have been able to increase my pace by doing longer runs once a week. I finished C25K in February, and by working on my endurance (longest run is 6.5 miles, so far), I am increasing my pace for my shorter runs. I run 3 times a week. I was around 12 min per mile, but last week I did 5 miles in around 10:15 per mile. That was perfect conditions, though - drizzly and cool. I did the same run today at 11:30 per mile, but it was hot and I was dehydrated, so had problems with side stitches and had to walk some.

    I just consciously work on increasing my cadence a little - not so much my stride length since I think I tend to have a long enough stride and I've heard its best to keep your stride a little shorter, and also let downhills work for me and lengthening my stride then - I always run hilly routes, since I live on a hill.

    I also do kettlebells 3 times a week, and that has really strengthen my core and legs, which I think really helps - especially with running uphill.
  • seeled
    seeled Posts: 93
    I was taught in the military to do sprints to help speed. We could run 3 miles paced then 30 seconds sprint, 30 second walk for 6 minutes. That might help make your time better.....?
  • gracieabem
    gracieabem Posts: 211
    For those that incorporate fartlek or intervals, is this done typically in a separate run. For example, I usually run 3 days per week with two runs at a base distance (which will increase over time as well, but much more slowly) and 1 longer run that increases weekly. Do you think I should start adding in another session for intervals? I've been running since November last year.
  • RunEloiseRun
    RunEloiseRun Posts: 97
    The firs time I ever ran 3.15 miles it took me 45 minutes.
    What helped me gain speed was by running more. I increased my mileage and ran 4-6 days a week.
    I also strength train 2-3 days a week.

    Good luck.
    And keep in mind, no matter what your pace is you are faster than everyone on the couch!
  • ampeterson69
    ampeterson69 Posts: 20
    Thank-you so much for this post! Very helpful. Good luck to all of the other soon to be faster runners! :smile: :smile:
  • litatura
    litatura Posts: 569 Member
    I just switched from walking to running on the treadmill a little less than a month ago and I've gone from 5.0mph when I started and now I'm up to 6.2mph as of today. I did it by increasing my speed by 0.1mph each run. Going from 5.0mph to 6.0mph was a breeze, but getting over 6.0mph has been a bit of challenge. The first time I ran at 6.0mph, I completely died at the 4.5km mark, but I was able to complete the whole 5kms on my next run. I stayed at this speed for a week (4 runs) and today I rwas able to run an at 6.2mph. Mind you, I was dying at the end of it, but I did it. I plan to stay at 6.2mph for a while and then work at increasing the incline.

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