The Dumb@ss Things People Say...

gchutson

Everyone has an opinion that they're dying to share. The list of people with opinions is only topped by the list of people SEARCHING to be offended by something.

Share some of the opinions, cliches, and myths that make you roll your eyes.

(And I'm not pointing a finger at anyone, nor this site. I mean in general.)

gchutson

I'll start... anything that has anything to do with "BMI," whatsoever.

bm99

"It's not calories in vs calories out and here's why..." They then proceed with a personal anecdote and talk about something effecting their weightloss which is very obviously a CALORIE OUT issue (low metabolism, age, plateau, hormones). :grumble: Then they are convinced science is wrong and try to persuade others as well.

nikinyx6

"I know what's best for my body" ...usually coming from disordered eaters...

gchutson

"It's not calories in vs calories out and here's why..." They then proceed with a personal anecdote and talk about something effecting their weightloss which is very obviously a CALORIE OUT issue (low metabolism, age, plateau, hormones). :grumble: Then they are convinced science is wrong and try to persuade others as well.

Agreed. I'd include this under "anyone seeking medical advice from an Internet forum, ever." (And not just here... I mean any forum, anywhere.)

Go to a doctor. Then, go to another doctor for a second opinion.

melbaby925

A calorie is a calorie.

I'me sure there's a buttload more, but I've only got one eye open at the moment. I'll come back to this!

phinphanbill26

The negative posts about hating people that rant. Isn't that a rant in itself?

gchutson

"I know what's best for my body" ...usually coming from disordered eaters...

Agreed.

gchutson

The negative posts about hating people that rant. Isn't that a rant in itself?

God I hate when people rant about things in a forum. Like, this one time, this guy was ranting, I was like, "Hey guy, shut up and stop ranting." I then continued for 281 more posts about how annoying his ranting was...

mfpcopine

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me that I can eat whatever I want in moderation when I know that certain foods tend to make me pig out. The reason I've maintained my weight is by NOT exercising moderation.

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me it's all about willpower. "It's worked well for you," I want to respond.

-- In a conversation about exercise that I am sure I did not start, an obese woman telling me that grooming her pet was exercise after I'd discussed running.

-- The uneducated evocation of the term "starvation mode" ... I will say no more.


In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

Phrak

"I want to tone up"

nikinyx6

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me that I can eat whatever I want in moderation when I know that certain foods tend to make me pig out. The reason I've maintained my weight is by NOT exercising moderation.

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me it's all about willpower. "It's worked well for you," I want to respond.

-- In a conversation about exercise that I am sure I did not start, an obese woman telling me that grooming her pet was exercise after I'd discussed running.

-- The uneducated evocation of the term "starvation mode" ... I will say no more.


In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

You mean brushing my doggie is not burning mega calories? jeez people!

VoodooLuLu

:flowerforyou: :blushing:

nikinyx6

"I want to tone up"

I was someone who said this...now I understand. Thank you to all the people who explained it to me without making me feel like an idiot

gchutson

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me that I can eat whatever I want in moderation when I know that certain foods tend to make me pig out. The reason I've maintained my weight is by NOT exercising moderation.

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me it's all about willpower. "It's worked well for you," I want to respond.

-- In a conversation about exercise that I am sure I did not start, an obese woman telling me that grooming her pet was exercise after I'd discussed running.

-- The uneducated evocation of the term "starvation mode" ... I will say no more.


In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

You mean brushing my doggie is not burning mega calories? jeez people!

Power Brushing.

mfpcopine

"It's not calories in vs calories out and here's why..." They then proceed with a personal anecdote and talk about something effecting their weightloss which is very obviously a CALORIE OUT issue (low metabolism, age, plateau, hormones). :grumble: Then they are convinced science is wrong and try to persuade others as well.

Or even if you grant that it's not just calories in/out, they don't understand that it's a proxy that's used because it's easy and reliable. They don't understand that to track the chemistry of food intake and hormonal patterns, etc. a truly sophisticated level, is beyond the means of an ordinary person. If you're an elite athlete or an astronaut, you probably have access to lots of cool tests that provide amazing feedback.

They also don't get that knowledgeable, fit people don't set much store by the BMI, either. They have better information. And if they are really healthy outliers (high muscle mass, exceptional bone density), those people would be able to explain that. The BMI is a cheap proxy that's used by insurance companies to estimate obesity in populations.

gchutson

:flowerforyou: :blushing:

People from WV don't count. (haha)

mfpcopine

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me that I can eat whatever I want in moderation when I know that certain foods tend to make me pig out. The reason I've maintained my weight is by NOT exercising moderation.

-- Obese and severely overweight people telling me it's all about willpower. "It's worked well for you," I want to respond.

-- In a conversation about exercise that I am sure I did not start, an obese woman telling me that grooming her pet was exercise after I'd discussed running.

-- The uneducated evocation of the term "starvation mode" ... I will say no more.


In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

You mean brushing my doggie is not burning mega calories? jeez people!

Power Brushing.

She was INDIGNANT when I looked surprised that she was using doggy brushing as an example of intense exercise.

Dave198lbs

The negative posts about hating people that rant. Isn't that a rant in itself?

God I hate when people rant about things in a forum. Like, this one time, this guy was ranting, I was like, "Hey guy, shut up and stop ranting." I then continued for 281 more posts about how annoying his ranting was...

irony in top form here

JoolieW68

Rants like "I hate people who......"

- Continue to eat crap and cry when they don't lose weight
- Log house cleaning as exercise
- Can't count to 20, even when using their toes
- Can't figure out when to use 'lose' or 'loose'
- Don't understand ME and MY needs (it's all about me, after all)
- Think trolls aren't people, too

Em_runs_away

"I want to tone up"

I was someone who said this...now I understand. Thank you to all the people who explained it to me without making me feel like an idiot

Nikinyx6 please could you enlighten me?

bm99

In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

I agree, and that is an excellent comparison. In both cases people are bombarded with lies and sound bytes. It takes a LOT of initiative to sort through all the muck and find the truth (and I bet a lot of the time that isn't entirely accurate, sigh).

JustJennie1

"Hi. I'm a female and I want to start to lift weights but I don't want to 'bulk up' and look like a body builder. What do you suggest I do?"

Or:

"I have fat around my stomach that I really want to get rid of. What exercises can I do to target that specific spot?"

Or:

"I can't do the elliptical/squats/run because my legs gain muscle really fast and they get SOOO bulky!"

leomom72

bump

reankanesmom

I think the only thing that really tends to bother me is when people decided to tell me I've lost enough I should stop when I am clearly still bigger then I need to be for my body frame and height. Or those who tell me oh you can eat that when I know for a fact that if I eat to many helpings of pasta or there is to many trips to some fast food restaurant I am going to see a gain. I want to look at them and ask them if they are fitness trainer..nope..well how about a nutritionist...well nope damn...medical doctor...nope...well keep the pie hole shut.

bm99

- Think trolls aren't people, too

People are SO insensitive and MEAN on these forums! That's why I try to stay away. Don't look at my post count.

mfpcopine

In some ways, weight loss discussions remind me of political discussions in the U.S.: They're very dumb. The participants often lack basic information and they are insensitive to nuance and they oversimplify and generalize everything to the point where it's nonsense.

I agree, and that is an excellent comparison. In both cases people are bombarded with lies and sound bytes. It takes a LOT of initiative to sort through all the muck and find the truth (and I bet a lot of the time that isn't entirely accurate, sigh).

Admittedly, it is time-consuming, confusing, and frustrating at times. I'm not a weight loss or policy wonk, but I try to keep up by reading articles in reputable publications. I just hope that the reporter didn't misinterpret the latest study. The comments to such articles often point out flaws in the analysis.

still_crafty

these things don't offend me when I hear them but totally makes me roll my eyes because the threads on these topics are so beat to death:

Muscles on girls - I think it's hot, some don't, and then everyone argues
Tattoos on girls/guys - again, I think it's hot, some don't, and then everyone argues
too much skin in the profile pic - if you've got it, you worked your *kitten* off to get it so, yeah, go ahead and flaunt it - but then someone WILL get offended so just be ready for that

there's probably more but that'll do for now.

gchutson

"It's not calories in vs calories out and here's why..." They then proceed with a personal anecdote and talk about something effecting their weightloss which is very obviously a CALORIE OUT issue (low metabolism, age, plateau, hormones). :grumble: Then they are convinced science is wrong and try to persuade others as well.

Or even if you grant that it's not just calories in/out, they don't understand that it's a proxy that's used because it's easy and reliable. They don't understand that to track food intake and hormonal patterns, etc., is beyond the means of an ordinary person.

They also don't get that knowledgeable, fit people don't set much store by the BMI, either. They have better information. And if they are really healthy outliers (high muscle mass, exceptional bone density), those people would be able to explain that. The BMI is a cheap proxy that's used by insurance companies to estimate obesity in populations.

"BMI" is the single worst health apologue, ever. Any medical professional that ever based any diagnosis of any nature solely on "BMI" should be prosecuted for malpractice.

JoolieW68

- Think trolls aren't people, too

People are SO insensitive and MEAN on these forums! That's why I try to stay away. Don't look at my post count.

I don't blame you, I never come here either. This is my first day.

nikinyx6

"I want to tone up"

I was someone who said this...now I understand. Thank you to all the people who explained it to me without making me feel like an idiot

Nikinyx6 please could you enlighten me?

Tone up=not a real thing

losing fat and building muscle are the only two things that will show muscle definition...ie: what you and I thought of as toning up...some people can be a little touchy if you use that term...