8 Myths about Self-Defense Training
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"people who couldn't defend themselves if they got attacked by a quadriplegic midget. "
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Hey, that guy was way tougher than he looked!
great post0 -
Yay! More Krav people!! I've been training for over a year now and am a level 2! I love it! And the best thing my teacher ever said- If something really happens, don't make it pretty, make it effective!! I love how instinctive KM is and how it works with many of the body's natural reactions!0
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“Tae Bo,” “Cardio-Kickboxing” and “Aerobics” are NOT forms of Self-Defense training, and believing that they are is an excellent way to get killed.
Aerobics classes and videos are great ways to get into shape and look good in a bathing suit. However, they are fundamentally worthless when it comes to fending off a sexual assault or abating a life-threatening confrontation. The only way to learn to Self-Defense, is to study combative techniques from a qualified instructor, and repeat those techniques until they become second nature (more specifically “muscle memory”).
Billy Blanks has shown example of how his moves can help a person protect themselves from an attacker.
I own self defense videos. I have never taken a class, but I would not say that I can't learn a thing or two from the videos or even from Billy Blanks.
Using that same logic, you should be able to win the Ironman Triathlon by watching a video about swimming and jogging in your living room.
I respectfully, yet utterly, disagree with your position.
I'm not looking for you to agree with me.0 -
Very good! My brother in law teaches self defense and I took a class from him last month. He lives 900 miles away, otherwise he would be my personal trainer. I learned how to push and kick, and part of that means I learned that if you connect with the top of your foot instead of your shin you get a big bruise!
Do you teach self defense?
I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
Cool post. What are your recommendations? I've always wanted to take marital arts anyways and was thinking Muay Thai or Kickboxing but then Judo has also always been very interesting to me too. Not sure if this matters or not but I'm 6'0" typically between 200 and 205lbs.
I've read that Krav Maga is very good but the "real" form of Krav Maga isn't taught to civilians and that the civilian methods aren't very good. I don't know personally nor have an opinion, just curious.0 -
I agree that confidence can prevent a lot of drama from occurring.
I have been in a few sticky situations in the past. I wasn't in danger of losing my life, but I've been around a drunk dude that didn't want to take no for an answer.
I've also had a coworker climb into my car without being invited in, and that same coworker snapped wet towels on my bare skin while I was wearing shorts. If I had known then, what I know now, I would have notified OSHA about that, but live and learn. I actually tried hitting the guy once as hard as I could, and he literally laughed in my face. That day, I learned the violence is not the answer, because I will never ever be stronger or meaner than most guys I know.
In both situations, my best defense was looking around for escape routes and witnesses, and simply asserting to the guy that it's not ok to treat me like that.
At some point, I'd like to take a martial arts class, and learn a bit of the non-violent aspects of it, but I'm not sure which one I want to take, because I actually have several goals in mind.0 -
Very good! My brother in law teaches self defense and I took a class from him last month. He lives 900 miles away, otherwise he would be my personal trainer. I learned how to push and kick, and part of that means I learned that if you connect with the top of your foot instead of your shin you get a big bruise!
Do you teach self defense?
I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
If I lived closer, and if you offered a self defense class, I'd take it. You have a lot of valid points with all of your years of experience.0 -
I want to learn from you0
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Self-Defense is NOT about toe-to-toe “Chuck-Norris-Walker-Texas-Ranger” karate fighting.
Self-Defense is the utilization of fundamental, easily learned verbal and physical techniques, employed to effectively dissuade an attacker and leverage a 5-second window of escape.
“Tae Bo,” “Cardio-Kickboxing” and “Aerobics” are NOT forms of Self-Defense training, and believing that they are is an excellent way to get killed.
Aerobics classes and videos are great ways to get into shape and look good in a bathing suit. However, they are fundamentally worthless when it comes to fending off a sexual assault or abating a life-threatening confrontation. The only way to learn to Self-Defense, is to study combative techniques from a qualified instructor, and repeat those techniques until they become second nature (more specifically “muscle memory”).
Self-Defense is NOT about “karate chops and groin kicks.”
True Self-Defense encompasses the development of a personalized system of self-protection that incorporates proactive planning, situational awareness, verbal skills and reflex-based muscle memory development that deter attackers and discourage criminal assaults.
Self-Defense is NOT about which martial art style is the “bad-assiest.”
Self-Defense is specific and paramount training designed to develop skills and muscle memory around approximately 10 to 20 core, easily-to-learn techniques that can be employed to establish a 5 second “window” of lead-time on an attacker, so you may escape danger and avoid being victimized.
Self-Defense is NOT about being an 'action hero' on a mission to save your hometown from renegade evildoers and zombies.
The purpose of Self-Defense training to protect yourself from unlawful attacks, assaults, rape and physical confrontation.
“Magic Touches,” “Secret Moves,” “Killer Chi” & “Vulcan Never Pinches” are myths, and completely f*cking asinine.
Despite what is portrayed in the media, real-life fighting is raw, chaotic and in most cases, absolutely terrifying (even for those with years of training and experience). The core fundamentals of practical Self-Defense are verbal deterrents and physical techniques used to thwart attacks by targeting vulnerable areas of your attacker's anatomy. Not "whoopin' *kitten*."
“If I'm ever attacked, I'll just shoot them.”
This sentiment absolutely infuriates me, as it is dramatically naive and potentially catastrophic.
Utilizing any type of weapon during a confrontation is extremely difficult and dangerous. “Shooting” someone is much easier to say, than it is to do. Once the shot is fired, your actions, methods and decisions will be judged not by you; rather they will be judged by homicide detectives, district attorneys and juries who will likely not see the circumstances in the same “light” that you do.
If you doubt me on this point, ask George Zimmerman how he personally feels about the inane idea that one should “just shoot your attacker. It's your word against a dead man's.”
The biggest issue with this dumbass myth is that weapons do not have a conscious nor any sense of reason. “Fight or flight” will force you to be nervous and flood your body with adrenaline, causing you to make mistakes. Those mistakes can you ruin your life, and/or the innocent lives of others.
Thinking you don't need Self-Defense training because you own a gun, is like saying that you don't need butter knives, because you own a chainsaw.
“What are the odds I'll ever really need Self-Defense training?”
1 out of 3, according to the US Justice Department's reports on criminal assaults on US citizens. Another shocking statistic that of the women attacked, 80% of them will know their attacker, personally.
For once, I agree with you. As far as carrying a concealed weapon, I'm not going to say that you shouldn't do it. However, if you do, you should make sure you are well-trained on its proper use, make target practice a part of your regular routine (at least once per week), and make sure you know the law in your state regarding when it is considered justifiable to shoot someone. You CAN'T just pull it out and point it at people willy nilly simply because you feel a little uncomfortable. Educate and train yourself regarding weapons use. Every time you take a gun into your hand, you're potentially putting your life and the lives of others at risk. It's a big responsibility and not something to be taken lightly.0 -
Very good! My brother in law teaches self defense and I took a class from him last month. He lives 900 miles away, otherwise he would be my personal trainer. I learned how to push and kick, and part of that means I learned that if you connect with the top of your foot instead of your shin you get a big bruise!
Do you teach self defense?
I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
Cool post. What are your recommendations? I've always wanted to take marital arts anyways and was thinking Muay Thai or Kickboxing but then Judo has also always been very interesting to me too. Not sure if this matters or not but I'm 6'0" typically between 200 and 205lbs.
I've read that Krav Maga is very good but the "real" form of Krav Maga isn't taught to civilians and that the civilian methods aren't very good. I don't know personally nor have an opinion, just curious.
Me too! Me too! I'm thinking I'd like to take some Tae Kwon Do classes.0 -
I keep meaning to start doing a martial art.... but have been putting it off for years... I am lucky since I am physically intimidating (solid build, 6'2") so my main self defence throughout my life has consisted of
1. Be alert
2. Avoid situations where confrontations may occur
3. Run first, ask questions later
Now that I have a small tribe of kids, I am reconsidering my stance as I feel I may one day be put in a position where I am forced to not only defend myself but my family too. I am considering Tae Kwon Do.
My main fear is a home invasion, so the self defence method I choose would have to be something suited to close quarters defence... Any suggestion other than Tae Kwon Do would be considered.0 -
i have played A LOT of Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat in my day. i think i have almost every scenario covered.0
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Self-Defense is NOT about toe-to-toe “Chuck-Norris-Walker-Texas-Ranger” karate fighting.
Self-Defense is the utilization of fundamental, easily learned verbal and physical techniques, employed to effectively dissuade an attacker and leverage a 5-second window of escape.
“Tae Bo,” “Cardio-Kickboxing” and “Aerobics” are NOT forms of Self-Defense training, and believing that they are is an excellent way to get killed.
Aerobics classes and videos are great ways to get into shape and look good in a bathing suit. However, they are fundamentally worthless when it comes to fending off a sexual assault or abating a life-threatening confrontation. The only way to learn to Self-Defense, is to study combative techniques from a qualified instructor, and repeat those techniques until they become second nature (more specifically “muscle memory”).
Self-Defense is NOT about “karate chops and groin kicks.”
True Self-Defense encompasses the development of a personalized system of self-protection that incorporates proactive planning, situational awareness, verbal skills and reflex-based muscle memory development that deter attackers and discourage criminal assaults.
Self-Defense is NOT about which martial art style is the “bad-assiest.”
Self-Defense is specific and paramount training designed to develop skills and muscle memory around approximately 10 to 20 core, easily-to-learn techniques that can be employed to establish a 5 second “window” of lead-time on an attacker, so you may escape danger and avoid being victimized.
Self-Defense is NOT about being an 'action hero' on a mission to save your hometown from renegade evildoers and zombies.
The purpose of Self-Defense training to protect yourself from unlawful attacks, assaults, rape and physical confrontation.
“Magic Touches,” “Secret Moves,” “Killer Chi” & “Vulcan Never Pinches” are myths, and completely f*cking asinine.
Despite what is portrayed in the media, real-life fighting is raw, chaotic and in most cases, absolutely terrifying (even for those with years of training and experience). The core fundamentals of practical Self-Defense are verbal deterrents and physical techniques used to thwart attacks by targeting vulnerable areas of your attacker's anatomy. Not "whoopin' *kitten*."
“If I'm ever attacked, I'll just shoot them.”
This sentiment absolutely infuriates me, as it is dramatically naive and potentially catastrophic.
Utilizing any type of weapon during a confrontation is extremely difficult and dangerous. “Shooting” someone is much easier to say, than it is to do. Once the shot is fired, your actions, methods and decisions will be judged not by you; rather they will be judged by homicide detectives, district attorneys and juries who will likely not see the circumstances in the same “light” that you do.
If you doubt me on this point, ask George Zimmerman how he personally feels about the inane idea that one should “just shoot your attacker. It's your word against a dead man's.”
The biggest issue with this dumbass myth is that weapons do not have a conscious nor any sense of reason. “Fight or flight” will force you to be nervous and flood your body with adrenaline, causing you to make mistakes. Those mistakes can you ruin your life, and/or the innocent lives of others.
Thinking you don't need Self-Defense training because you own a gun, is like saying that you don't need butter knives, because you own a chainsaw.
“What are the odds I'll ever really need Self-Defense training?”
1 out of 3, according to the US Justice Department's reports on criminal assaults on US citizens. Another shocking statistic that of the women attacked, 80% of them will know their attacker, personally.
For once, I agree with you. As far as carrying a concealed weapon, I'm not going to say that you shouldn't do it. However, if you do, you should make sure you are well-trained on its proper use, make target practice a part of your regular routine (at least once per week), and make sure you know the law in your state regarding when it is considered justifiable to shoot someone. You CAN'T just pull it out and point it at people willy nilly simply because you feel a little uncomfortable. Educate and train yourself regarding weapons use. Every time you take a gun into your hand, you're potentially putting your life and the lives of others at risk. It's a big responsibility and not something to be taken lightly.
Once? All the crap that I've posted on here, THIS is the only thing with which you agree?? I feel so unloved.
Okay, let me rephrase. Out of the three or four of your posts that I've seen, for once, I agree. Actually, now that I think about it, it's not so much that I disagreed with your opinions before, but usually (and PLEASE don't take offense to this) you tend to come across as a little antagonistic and confrontational (maybe it's the attorney in you, IDK). Certainly no reason for you to feel unloved here. :flowerforyou: I tend to treat everyone in a loving manner, even those with whom I do not always see eye to eye.0 -
Very good! My brother in law teaches self defense and I took a class from him last month. He lives 900 miles away, otherwise he would be my personal trainer. I learned how to push and kick, and part of that means I learned that if you connect with the top of your foot instead of your shin you get a big bruise!
Do you teach self defense?
I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
I know a guy with a tapout shirt who wants to fight you0 -
My daughter's been in Taekwon Do since she was 8-years-old and she's strong as a ox. :smokin:
That said, she knows she's supposed to run first, defend secondly if needed.0 -
Very good! My brother in law teaches self defense and I took a class from him last month. He lives 900 miles away, otherwise he would be my personal trainer. I learned how to push and kick, and part of that means I learned that if you connect with the top of your foot instead of your shin you get a big bruise!
Do you teach self defense?
I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
I know a guy with a tapout shirt who wants to fight you
They're not really a threat until they buy the shorts too. Then that *kitten* is oooon!
Hahaha! You're making me laugh today. You usually get me fired up and ready to fight. What's up with that?! LOL0 -
What's with the Tapout hate? >.> They're one of the few companies that cut their shirts in a way that fits my shoulders.I know a guy with a tapout shirt who wants to fight you
Anyway, agree with everthing in the original post. Although I'm not much of a runner, so my time spent around ex-russian military personnel and sparring with them is probably quite helpful.0 -
great post. i knew my attacker. i wish i would have known then what i know now. no matter how strong you think you are ladies- men are going to be stronger.0
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I have sooo been wanting to get this done (learn some form of self defense, possibly more than one type).
It would be much better than the gun that I own that I pretty much can't legally use. Ha.0 -
great post. i knew my attacker. i wish i would have known then what i know now. no matter how strong you think you are ladies- men are going to be stronger.
There is a scientific methodology and algorithm that can be utilized to reduce a male's physical strength, in proportion to his muscle mass and body stature.
Step 1: Punch him in the face really, really f*cking hard. A lot.
Step 2: See Step 1.
Hahaha! Love this! I have taken one self defense class, and the instructor said the heel of your palm to his nose is VERY effective. Years later that's the one thing I clearly remember from the class, but I have not yet encountered the need to put it in practice....thank God.0 -
That and a swift kick to the groin if there's an opportunity.great post. i knew my attacker. i wish i would have known then what i know now. no matter how strong you think you are ladies- men are going to be stronger.
There is a scientific methodology and algorithm that can be utilized to reduce a male's physical strength, in proportion to his muscle mass and body stature.
Step 1: Punch him in the face really, really f*cking hard. A lot.
Step 2: See Step 1.
Hahaha! Love this! I have taken one self defense class, and the instructor said the heel of your palm to his nose is VERY effective. Years later that's the one thing I clearly remember from the class, but I have not yet encountered the need to put it in practice....thank God.
The pain of taking a blow to your nads is incomprehensible. It sort of travels through your entire nervous system. I am traumatized by cricket balls.0 -
That and a swift kick to the groin if there's an opportunity.great post. i knew my attacker. i wish i would have known then what i know now. no matter how strong you think you are ladies- men are going to be stronger.
There is a scientific methodology and algorithm that can be utilized to reduce a male's physical strength, in proportion to his muscle mass and body stature.
Step 1: Punch him in the face really, really f*cking hard. A lot.
Step 2: See Step 1.
Hahaha! Love this! I have taken one self defense class, and the instructor said the heel of your palm to his nose is VERY effective. Years later that's the one thing I clearly remember from the class, but I have not yet encountered the need to put it in practice....thank God.
The pain of taking a blow to your nads is incomprehensible. It sort of travels through your entire nervous system. I am traumatized by cricket balls.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yes, he also said to try that, but, in many cases, and attacker will not be deterred by this because, chances are, he is not a first time offender and he's been hit there so many times that he is "desensitized". Don't know if I believe that, though. Personally, I'm of the opinion that he only told us that because he didn't want us taking shots at his boys when we were practicing what he taught us. LOL0 -
I love this post. Taking krav maga classes has been amazing for my self esteem and being more aware of my surroundings.0
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I am:
- A 24-year practicing martial artist' with Blackbelts or BBE's in Tae Kwon, Judo, Jiu Jitsu & Krav Maga
- A certified combatives and firearms instructor for the Department of Defense, Law Enforcement and Private Security Firms
- A certified Rape Aggression Defense instructor
- An attorney
Your awesomeness just blew my mind0 -
great post. i knew my attacker. i wish i would have known then what i know now. no matter how strong you think you are ladies- men are going to be stronger.
There is a scientific methodology and algorithm that can be utilized to reduce a male's physical strength, in proportion to his muscle mass and body stature.
Step 1: Punch him in the face really, really f*cking hard. A lot.
Step 2: See Step 1.
hahaha! love it! thank you!0 -
Wait - so that SING method from Miss Congeniality isn't the only thing I need to know about self defense? I feel so stupid. LOL
Great post - thanks for sharing it. I do have to take a class at some point. And I completely agree that the #1 defense is doing everything possible to not end up in situations where you need to defend yourself. Doesn't mean it's the victim's fault if they get attacked, but prevention goes a long way.0 -
I know a guy with a tapout shirt who wants to fight you
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Anyone planning to "take a self defense class" should understand that it is not a "set it and forget it" thing. It's a perishable skill. In order to be effective you must continue to practice the techniques and mindset until it becomes lodged in your lizard brain so you will be able to access it when under stress. The techniques should also be very simple and use mostly gross motor functions - again, so they are useful when your lizard brain takes over.
Unless you have a Tapout shirt apparently.0 -
I did Ju Jitsu for 9 years, I achieved a Black Belt 2nd Dan and loved every minute of it! It keeps you fit, you meet brill people and learn how to defend yourself.0
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“If I'm ever attacked, I'll just shoot them.”
This sentiment absolutely infuriates me, as it is dramatically naive and potentially catastrophic.
Utilizing any type of weapon during a confrontation is extremely difficult and dangerous. “Shooting” someone is much easier to say, than it is to do. Once the shot is fired, your actions, methods and decisions will be judged not by you; rather they will be judged by homicide detectives, district attorneys and juries who will likely not see the circumstances in the same “light” that you do.
If you doubt me on this point, ask George Zimmerman how he personally feels about the inane idea that one should “just shoot your attacker. It's your word against a dead man's.”
The biggest issue with this dumbass myth is that weapons do not have a conscious nor any sense of reason. “Fight or flight” will force you to be nervous and flood your body with adrenaline, causing you to make mistakes. Those mistakes can you ruin your life, and/or the innocent lives of others.
There are major problems with this thought process. Just like self-defense, if you don't practice, you won't be able to do it when it matters. In most cases, it will have to happen in less than five seconds, without enough space between you and your attacker, there's a good chance your gun will be used to kill you.0 -
What's with the Tapout hate? >.> They're one of the few companies that cut their shirts in a way that fits my shoulders.I know a guy with a tapout shirt who wants to fight you
Anyway, agree with everthing in the original post. Although I'm not much of a runner, so my time spent around ex-russian military personnel and sparring with them is probably quite helpful.
Their clothes are fine. For some reason, there are a select group of @ssmonkeys that feel as though paying $19.95 for a Tapout shirt equates to 20+ years of martial arts expertise.
Mathematically, their logic is slightly flawed.
Great, that was going to be my self defense training. I thought all I'd need was the shirt and it would make me a master of all forms of ninjahood. guess I'll just get more tattoos because they make you tougher :laugh:0
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