Scale number will move only when good & ready

Kim55555

Heavy weights session this morning followed by sprints tonight. Most likely will eat anywhere between 2000 - 2300. I'll see what my decides it needs.

Kim55555

My goal has been to eat 2050 calories but I've been eating 2100-2300 the last week. I'm listening to my body and I've found it seems to need this amount now. I've still been in a slight deficit around 5 - 10 %.

Even though I'm keen to lose some more tummy fat I think I'm ready to take a break so I've been looking to reverse dieting my way up to maintenance calories. I'm thinking to keep eating 2200 calories and each week add an extra 20 calories until I hit my maintenance. I need to do it slowly to prevent my appetite from going nuts and putting weight on.

Then come spring here in Australia (September) I'll do another 5 month cut and lose some more off my tummy. I'm hoping that whilst eating at maintenance I might still be able to lose a little but my goal will be to rev up my metabolism and be able to eat as much as possible without gaining. I'd love to finally find out just how much I can eat with my activity level and not put on weight. Also when I do my next cut in September I'd like to be able to cut at 2000 rather than starting off at 1800's. I think I'll create a new thread

Kim55555

I had my measurements taken today

In the space of 4 & 1/2 weeks

I lost 1 cm off my waist (I now have a 79 cm waist ! Yessss!).
and I lost 2cm off my chest
Put on 4 cm on my hips (muscle from heavy lifting and running ?! ) or maybe she made a mistake

1.4 kg lost too

LivingtheLeanDream

nice loss in your measurements I reckon she made a mistake with your hips, they can't get bigger! not at slight deficit.
I'm loving your progress updates, finding it so beneficial and doing the same. Not seeing that much of a loss, a bit up and down the scale for me these days but I'm sticking with it. My body also feels like it needs more than 2000 a day. I'm trying to eat around that, although on Saturday its more like 2500 which I hope isn't detrimental!
Keep us posted and if you do start a new thread I hope I see it, or copy me in some way? thanks, Ruth

skinny4me2be

@Kim55555-Those are awesome -- I too agree--thing it was a mis measurement. Way to go -hard work is paying off!!

RunRutheeRun--how did you feel eating at 2500? Satisfied? Hungry? Have you tried eating at 2100 or 2200 to see how that goes?

LivingtheLeanDream

skinny4me2be wrote: »

@Kim55555-Those are awesome -- I too agree--thing it was a mis measurement. Way to go -hard work is paying off!!

RunRutheeRun--how did you feel eating at 2500? Satisfied? Hungry? Have you tried eating at 2100 or 2200 to see how that goes?

eating at 2500 I feel overfull/stuffed! it feels too much I guess! Eating at 2100 I'm full but I feel I'm still possibly eating too much else why would the scales not go down a bit. This week I am up 1/2lb but trying to ignore it and stick with you gals plan I want to give it time instead of wimping out lol

skinny4me2be

I agree...don't cut yet. My weight can swing up 3-5lbs on some days. Your doing great. Stick with it and keep us posted on how it goes.

LivingtheLeanDream

skinny4me2be wrote: »

I agree...don't cut yet. My weight can swing up 3-5lbs on some days. Your doing great. Stick with it and keep us posted on how it goes.

oh don't worry, I'll keep you posted. I'm really glad we're friends I'll stick with this another month before I make any changes. I still feel guilty though when I log my food and have 2000 cals, mentally I feel its too much! but I want to prove the system works and be happy that I can actually eat that amount

Kim55555

Kim55555 wrote: »

So there is a pattern I've been noticing. Every 4 - 5 weeks the scale ends up moving to a new lower weight. I've been fluctuating between 60.3 - 61.7 since December 4 & lately I'm in the lower range a lot more (being low to high 60's) So in a few weeks time I'm predicting a new low weight of 59. something. & then I will fluctuate between 59. something & low 61's and the cycle/pattern continues.

haha well i'm way ahead of schedule, my new low weight is 58.4 and new high weight is low 60's. Although this morning it got to 59.3 so I'm kinda hoping my new high weight is now low 59's. But what happens is is that when I reach my new low weight which is 58.4 I will only stay at that weight for a little while before my scale settles at a higher amount. So actually I'm thinking based on past experience that my new range is low 59 - to low 60.

In 4 - 6 weeks time if i keep eating the same amount my new low amount will be high 57 kg and new high weight will be mid 59's before my body settles in midway at high 58's.

haha sounds complicated doesnt it but not really.

Oh hey this might explain things for you @RunRutheeRun

Keep eating that amount youve been eating for the next 4-6 weeks and take note of the trend on the scale. You lost weight last week eating that amount didnt you! Was that a new scale low for you?

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Kim55555

I'll try to explain it simply

From December 4, 2014 - December 14, 2014
My low weight - low 60's
My high weight - high 60's

I started noticing that my weight was in the low 60's a lot more.

I predicted that in a few weeks time (middle of January) a trend would occur

Prediction low weight - 59 something
Prediction high weight - 60 something


This is what actually happened over the past 4 weeks - middle Dec - middle january
My low weight - 58.4 kg
My high weight - 60.4 kg

My weight has now settled at the mid way point of 58.4 - 60.4 kg. Now what will happen is I only saw that 58.4 on the scale for a short time before my scale weight went up. This is a totally normal pattern and is what happens with the scale.

You get to a new low weight and then stay there a little while before settling higher. What this means is you have a new low weight, a new middle weight and a new high weight. Your new highest weight settles at a an all time lower amount. My new high weight currently i think is low 60's. So if you look at my stats when I posted on December 14 my high weight was high 60's and it is now low 60's. From this I deduct I lost around a half to 1 kg in scale weight.

and the pattern will continue

Prediction for March 1

New low weight - high 57 kg
New mid weight - middle 58 kg
New high weight - low 59 kg

Kim55555

Check this out. Someone posted int in the maintenance forum

http://greatist.com/health/understanding-scale-bloat-and-weight-loss?fb_action_ids=10205503421003106&fb_action_types=og.shares

LivingtheLeanDream

Kim55555 wrote: »

Kim55555 wrote: »

So there is a pattern I've been noticing. Every 4 - 5 weeks the scale ends up moving to a new lower weight. I've been fluctuating between 60.3 - 61.7 since December 4 & lately I'm in the lower range a lot more (being low to high 60's) So in a few weeks time I'm predicting a new low weight of 59. something. & then I will fluctuate between 59. something & low 61's and the cycle/pattern continues.

haha well i'm way ahead of schedule, my new low weight is 58.4 and new high weight is low 60's. Although this morning it got to 59.3 so I'm kinda hoping my new high weight is now low 59's. But what happens is is that when I reach my new low weight which is 58.4 I will only stay at that weight for a little while before my scale settles at a higher amount. So actually I'm thinking based on past experience that my new range is low 59 - to low 60.

In 4 - 6 weeks time if i keep eating the same amount my new low amount will be high 57 kg and new high weight will be mid 59's before my body settles in midway at high 58's.

haha sounds complicated doesnt it but not really.

Oh hey this might explain things for you @RunRutheeRun

Keep eating that amount youve been eating for the next 4-6 weeks and take note of the trend on the scale. You lost weight last week eating that amount didnt you! Was that a new scale low for you?

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Hi Kim, it was my lowest in a month but not THE lowest.
I use a weight tracking app so i'll keep an eye on it over the next month.

Well done on your new low☺

LivisMommy10

Thank you for posting this...when you really work at it but don't see results immediately or plateau, it can be discouraging! Just gotta keep moving along and not give up!!

Kim55555

Kim55555

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Kim55555

I had an amazing day today! Out of the 30 girls at day 1 pre season training I was top 3 for fitness.  I'm so proud of myself & proud of all the hard work ive put in during the offseason. My goal was top 10 & I smashed it!!!  Not bad for a 42 year old hey!   Back in 2010 I weighed 92 kg (203 lb) and would come in last. Now around 32 kg I'm right up there with the fitter girls.

I'm in two minds over whether or not I'll switch to maintenance now as I really want to push hard and have the right amount of fuel to perform at my best & challenge myself plus compete against the girls. The other day I had my mind set on eating closer to the 2000-2100 mark but now I think I've made up my mind to eat at maintenance. Once the season is over in August I can do another cut, and the next cut should see me at goal in around 2-3 months eating at 10% defecit.

Kim55555

I am going to reverse diet up to maintenance!

I have set my goal to 2100 gross average calories. I'll eat between 2000 - 2200 gross calories. Each week I'll slightly increase my gross calorie intake until eventually I'll stabilise at maintenance.

I'm hoping in a few months time to be able to maintain on a gross calorie average of 2350 and then a few months after that maybe even 2500 gross calories I'll see what happens.

All I know is so as to prevent weight gain I need to slowly up the calories so my body gets used to this amount of fuel. It will also help control my appetite and hormones adjust to it all too.

I'm excited to be reverse dieting & heading towards maintenance & doing it slowly and carefully. I will continue to log in to mfp for support and interaction. I will keep doing the things that have made me so successful in losing the weight like tracking food, weighing food, measuring myself monthly, taking photos, weighing daily to keep track of my scale trend. Scale needs to stay between 58.4 and 60.3 as that is my range.

In the offseason which is August I'll resume my cut to get to goal. I think it will only require another 2-3 months.

LivingtheLeanDream

Thanks for the update, looking forward to seeing more updates as you keep upping cals☺

Kim55555

Hi, I've changed my mind again lol   Im not going to reverse diet just yet!  I'll stick with 2100 gross calories.  My running performance & energy level is not in any way being impacted by my defecit and im loving the way my body is changing shape right before my eyes too much to stop just yet!!!  It's sooooo exciting. Haha can't wait to hit the gym later and check myself out in the mirrors.   I think I'm averaging a weekly 7 % defecit but I'm not sure!

All the girls at preseason are telling me how great I look.  Looking at all the preseason go pro photos I can really see the transformation. I've leaned out so much in the last couple of months. Nice and streamlined look.  There was a shot taken in the beach and can see clear muscle definition in the arms and upper body. I'm looking nearly as lean as I did back in 2012.  I'm losing more fat off my tummy, some tops are swimming on me now. A few of my trousers I wear to work have become so loose now, I'll have to get some new ones. 

I have some amazing news I want to share!  At training we were put into two groups of 12 and we ran a 4 hundred & 30 metre time trial. We had to run 3 laps with a 1 minute rest in between.  I came 3 rd !!!!!   in the first lap (out of 12 girls) and ran it in 1 minute, 37 seconds I have never run so fast in my whole life!!!! Last year I did it in 2 min 15.  In 2010 when I weighed 92 kg it would take me 4 minutes!!  I even had to confirm on Facebook that it truly was 430 metres! I still can't believe I achieved that time!!!!

I am really keen to stay close to a 10 % defecit and lose the rest of my tummy. I would have burnt anywhere between 500 - 800 calories at footy training I'm not sure. I always go for the lower end of the range and underestimate my burn just in case i get it wrong.  One girl was wearing a watch and it said she burnt 880 calories!   I was satisfied eating 1900 that day. So I easily got a 10-15 % defecit that day. Yesterday I jogged for 45 mins and felt a bit hungrier and ate 2170. I think my defecit was close to 5 % that day.  

So some days I'm eating at a 5 % defecit, some days a 10 % defecit and perhaps 1 day I might be eating at maintenance such as when i have a rest day.  Today if I eat 2040 calories my 6 day average will be 2100.

It's lovely weather outside I think I'll save my knees and legs for tommorows (running) beach session and go for a swim. I'll also do some weights. 

I found this cool article, check it out. Same weight 2 years apart but look at the transformation!

http://eatmore2weighless.com/could-this-crazy-woman-be-right/


How is everyone else going?

LivingtheLeanDream

What progress Kim! You're doing so great ☺ I reckon I'm at 10% deficit even eating at 2100 so I am gonna stick at that level for a number of weeks. I also aim to reduce my tummy. I'm pleased with the rest of me lol.

I am noticing that I'm leaner and my tummy is reducing so I'm also making progress.

As you already know I'm down a pound which is really exciting for me as formerly I would have cut to 1700 to lose that, the reversing process is working so I'm sticking with it.

skinny4me2be

Way to go you two!!!! So proud of all of you!!! Keep up the great work!!!

Kim55555

RunRutheeRun wrote: »

What progress Kim! You're doing so great ☺ I reckon I'm at 10% deficit even eating at 2100 so I am gonna stick at that level for a number of weeks. I also aim to reduce my tummy. I'm pleased with the rest of me lol.

I am noticing that I'm leaner and my tummy is reducing so I'm also making progress.

As you already know I'm down a pound which is really exciting for me as formerly I would have cut to 1700 to lose that, the reversing process is working so I'm sticking with it.

@RunRutheeRun
Great to see 2100 working for you and your not going hungry anymore!! Your tummy is leaning out!!! Thats awesome!!!!!!!! Good work!

thanks! @skinny4me2be



Last week I ate 2200 gross average calories (not intentionally) i'll try to stay closer to 2100 from now on as I want to lose some more off my tummy. When I'm lying down on my back the shape of my lower tummy is looking different! so fat is definately melting away!! and the skin just below the bottom lower part of my belly button is feeling tight and taut now whereas before I'd put my finger there and it would feel skushy and fatty. My side obliques are leaning out too. The top roll of fat is slowly but surely getting smaller haha. It feels like it is taking an eternity, but I remind myself of that old saying "Rome wasn't built in a day!" Keep chip chip chipping away and it will go in time" I just keep telling myself to keep being consistent with my defecit and it will go away.

Scale is fluctuating between 59 and 60.3 these last couple of weeks and I'm not surprised either as I'm doing a new activity (footy training) and when your body starts a new activity you have small tears in the muscles and retain water for repair work. Thats what i'm attirbuting it too. I expect to see the scale number go back into the 58's in a few weeks time. Thats how the trend is going! I wouldn't be surprised though if it takes months to get down to 58 kg. I'm looking forward to my Feb 11 measurement and I'll also take a Feb 1st progress photo and that will till the story.

I'm really very excited because last time when i got to my lowest weight of 57.3 kg back in 2012 I stopped and did a metablic reset/bulk. I wish I'd have kept going so I could have seen just how much more of my tummy i could lose. I still had a little fat on my tummy that I could've gotten rid of if I had just kept on going. Never mind, i learnt a lot from it and this time around I wont stop haha. I dunno if i'll be able to achieve 6 pack abs as it all depends on genetics but my goal will be to get as flat a tummy as possible. I'll have to post some new photos up soon hey.

Yey im on holidays now for 2 weeks. I'm moving house. Cant wait to get my own space again. I'm sick of living with my parents. Dad is driving me nuts.

LivingtheLeanDream

any new activity will make the scale fluctuate up unfortunately but we know the reason so keep plodding on.
I love your chip, chipping away comment
We can do this!! we're always learning aren't we and its a good thing.
Enjoy your holiday

Kim55555

Thanks! Can't wait to have a sleep in tomorrow Cya

Kim55555

@skinny4me2be‌ @RunRutheeRun‌

I'm having my resting metabolic rate and also body comp tested using dexa on Friday! I'm soooo excited!!! I'm curious as to what my body fat % is. Back in 2012 and weighing 59 kg I was 22.5 bf % using a different method called bio impedance

It will be handy to know what my resting metabolic rate currently is!! so I know how many calories to eat to sustain my RMR!

I will then follow up with another appointment in 3 - 6 months time to see where I'm at!

Have you guys had these tests done??

LivingtheLeanDream

Morning Kim, It will be great to see what your bf is now

I've heard of these tests of course but have no clue where I'd go here in Northern Ireland to get them done. For me its not necessary, as long as I can SEE my progress in the mirror etc I'm happy as a pig in muck LOL

Keep us posted and enjoy your day

skinny4me2be

@Kim55555 How exciting!! I've heard of these two but I think I would have to go to the University Medical school to have that done, I'm told. I'm not sure. I have my annual check up in April, I'll check then. So super excited for you. Keep us posted on what you find out.

I've been struggling a bit. I've modified my intake up, (since my scale change issue), and my body is taking its time adjusting. I'm trying very hard not to cut calories and sticking with it. But getting frustrated. I continue my work outs which I love, so that keeps me going. (really? Who says they love to work out?? Me!!) Anyhow, I know in the end it will all even out-it just takes time.

Can't wait to hear what you've learned!! Have a great week!!!

LivingtheLeanDream

@skinny_4me‌2be you're doing great with your workouts, consistency is where success lies. The scale will move down for you, just be patient. I know you'll get to where you want to be xo

Kim55555

RunRutheeRun wrote: »

Morning Kim, It will be great to see what your bf is now

I've heard of these tests of course but have no clue where I'd go here in Northern Ireland to get them done. For me its not necessary, as long as I can SEE my progress in the mirror etc I'm happy as a pig in muck LOL

Keep us posted and enjoy your day

hmmm yeah it'll be interesting.


haha, its fun looking at ourselves in the mirror isnt it! I'm seeing subtle changes in definitions which before you know it turns into major changes. The other day for instance my right bicep/shoulder area looked more defined than the other arm, I could see a clear line/indentation whilst doing the weights and this is what gives me even more incentive to keep going!!! I love how my body is toning up!!! Ir is so exciting for me. Today I went with my nieces to the movies and whilst a choc top might've been nice I wasn't tempted, I'd much rather see some more progress in how I look plus use those 330 calories for real food. There is a left over lamb chop that i will enjoy tonight after my weights session. Its all about priorities for me and what was/is important for me at the time! I'm very much into delayed gratification. I did though have a small scoop last week when the girls were staying over (worth a hundred calories) so I could join in, and I'll do that on the odd occasion but not very often, maybe once a month. Gotta live sometimes hey.

After I went for a swim as I walked into to the changerooms and got closer to the mirror in my croptop/bather top I caught a glimpse of myself, and thought omg wow this is me, this is how I look now (its like all of a sudden you see the real you lol... its funny because i started seeing definition around 6 weeks ago but just recently in the last couple of weeks i'm seeing even more definition and i'm becoming a little sticter on myelf these last few days. Like for instance yesterday I had a rest/recovery exercise day, very light day no neat either so as to give my knees and body a rest, so i allowed myself just 2000 calories as I didnt think I would've burned that much that day. I did feel a little hungry at the end of the night but didnt think it was a good idea to eat. Sometimes I just need to be tough on myself to balance out my intake.

haha, i write a lot dont I.

Kim55555

hang in there @skinny4m2be you'll be fine. Your making wonderful progress. Scale will catch up to the hard work you are doing.

How many calories are you on now? and for how long have you been on them? Maybe you have added water/glycogen weight!? I think thats what may have happened with me when I increased my calories, my scale weight shot up to the low 60's for a while and now for the past 3 days its been in the mid 59's. That along with new exercise activity.

skinny4me2be wrote: »

@Kim55555 How exciting!! I've heard of these two but I think I would have to go to the University Medical school to have that done, I'm told. I'm not sure. I have my annual check up in April, I'll check then. So super excited for you. Keep us posted on what you find out.

I've been struggling a bit. I've modified my intake up, (since my scale change issue), and my body is taking its time adjusting. I'm trying very hard not to cut calories and sticking with it. But getting frustrated. I continue my work outs which I love, so that keeps me going. (really? Who says they love to work out?? Me!!) Anyhow, I know in the end it will all even out-it just takes time.

Can't wait to hear what you've learned!! Have a great week!!!