Random stuff that stops me getting fat... and makes you fat
m60kaf
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I'm bored because it's raining again so I thought I'd put down random points I believe keep me thin and make the larger person plateau and fustrate the hell out of me on MFP...
If you record calories you have to record everything including drinks... everything!
You can't cheat calories - just the way you can't cheat your bank balance, consume to much you will end up broke
Portion control - You are probably eating too much... way too much - get some scales and weigh things. You know when you finish your cereal and theres a bit left over at the end .. that's a full portion.
Diets are designed not to be sustainable - this keeps the company in business. You have to make lifetime changes
All fad diets are calorie control and don't fix your eating issues
If you are losing weight on a fad diet - it is working for you because it is controling your calories- there isn't some macro magic bullet
You can eat too little - It's a hard one to take in - but a biggie ... but dont use it as an excuse to eat too much.
Piging out once a week as a treat - you will fail (calories)
Fast food makes you want more food (sugar)
You don't need to cut down on fast food (Burgers, Pizzas, fried food) you should NEVER eat them - people did just fine for millions of years without burgers
Thats right - look at fast food ads on the TV like they are asking you to lick the urinal at your local bar
Since the 70s people are fatter - back in those days you couldn't buy much fast food or food outside working hours - think about it!
When you see bad food, don't crave think to how sick and fatty you will feel after you have eaten it - I love battered fish and chips - never eat it because I think how greased up I will feel after
It is NOTexpensive to eat healthy
Make food yourself from base ingriedients. Ready meals .. I refer you back to how to think about fast food
Muscle is more imortant than cardio - muscle eats fat for breakfast
You are not happy fat
Your metabolism is no slower than the next guys or gals
You never need to eat chocolate or crisps, etc.
There isn't a ripped muscly person underneath all your fat - muscle takes years to build, toned people aint lucky - they work their *kitten*' off
Likewise if you are female do not be afraid of weight training - you are not going to turn into a hulk overnight
If you are still a bit saggy you aint lost enough
BMI is rubbish for many justifiable technical reasons - but in your case it's probably spot on
Sex is awesome when you aint fat.
Healthy people don't eat much (compared to you)
3 or 4 hours exercise a week makes a massive difference - Anyone can spare 3 or 4 hours a week
Fat people encourage people to be fat. Correct weight people are good to be around
Food does not make you happy or cure all your problems. Stop whining, we all have problems, sort out your problems directly - not with food
If you have a positive relationship with food and work on it a lot you aren't obsessed - trust me to be fat, that is obsession
Feel free to add......
If you record calories you have to record everything including drinks... everything!
You can't cheat calories - just the way you can't cheat your bank balance, consume to much you will end up broke
Portion control - You are probably eating too much... way too much - get some scales and weigh things. You know when you finish your cereal and theres a bit left over at the end .. that's a full portion.
Diets are designed not to be sustainable - this keeps the company in business. You have to make lifetime changes
All fad diets are calorie control and don't fix your eating issues
If you are losing weight on a fad diet - it is working for you because it is controling your calories- there isn't some macro magic bullet
You can eat too little - It's a hard one to take in - but a biggie ... but dont use it as an excuse to eat too much.
Piging out once a week as a treat - you will fail (calories)
Fast food makes you want more food (sugar)
You don't need to cut down on fast food (Burgers, Pizzas, fried food) you should NEVER eat them - people did just fine for millions of years without burgers
Thats right - look at fast food ads on the TV like they are asking you to lick the urinal at your local bar
Since the 70s people are fatter - back in those days you couldn't buy much fast food or food outside working hours - think about it!
When you see bad food, don't crave think to how sick and fatty you will feel after you have eaten it - I love battered fish and chips - never eat it because I think how greased up I will feel after
It is NOTexpensive to eat healthy
Make food yourself from base ingriedients. Ready meals .. I refer you back to how to think about fast food
Muscle is more imortant than cardio - muscle eats fat for breakfast
You are not happy fat
Your metabolism is no slower than the next guys or gals
You never need to eat chocolate or crisps, etc.
There isn't a ripped muscly person underneath all your fat - muscle takes years to build, toned people aint lucky - they work their *kitten*' off
Likewise if you are female do not be afraid of weight training - you are not going to turn into a hulk overnight
If you are still a bit saggy you aint lost enough
BMI is rubbish for many justifiable technical reasons - but in your case it's probably spot on
Sex is awesome when you aint fat.
Healthy people don't eat much (compared to you)
3 or 4 hours exercise a week makes a massive difference - Anyone can spare 3 or 4 hours a week
Fat people encourage people to be fat. Correct weight people are good to be around
Food does not make you happy or cure all your problems. Stop whining, we all have problems, sort out your problems directly - not with food
If you have a positive relationship with food and work on it a lot you aren't obsessed - trust me to be fat, that is obsession
Feel free to add......
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I agree. Except I think cardio is quite important (think about how much we are designed to move around vs how much the average couch potato actually does). And there is plenty of evidence that dark chocolate is positively good for you. It's the sweet cr*p cadburys and hershey etc try to sell us as chocolate that's not.0
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Very true about how much people eat. People always tell me I eat almost nothing. I eat exactly the amount humans are meant to eat.0
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Great post! Everything well said and true!
(well... Except for me I'm pretty sure I DO have really slow metabolism from my anorexia. I gain so easily and train ever days -.-)
Also!
Just because you eat a diet coke with that burger and fries, doesn't make those calories matter any less.0 -
I agree with most of these.
However, muscle doesn't burn that many calories at rest, and cardio burns far more calories than strength training or a muscled person resting.
Also, metabolisms have a significant and thus far unaccounted for variance. Organs account for most of RMR, and non-organ lean mass and fat mass account for another small chunk, but there is a good bit of variance remaining that isn't explained yet.0 -
I get what you're trying to prove, but mostly you come off as a stereotypical jerk.0
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I agree with 99% of this. What a great post about keeping people accountable for their actions. Kudos to you!
The only thing I have a concern about:
Piging out once a week as a treat - you will fail (calories)
I believe a healthy lifestyle is about balance. I go out to eat with my husband and allow myself 1 meal a week to eat w/e I want without thinking too much about the calories. Saying that, most of the time my meal is not over 1000 calories and it is not an all day event. So I really agree with this statement but I think it could be misinterpreted. I think an occasional high cal meal is fine but pigging out...hell no. So yeah, your right...haha
I also think there is room for sweets but again...in moderation. I cant imagine going the rest of my life without eating ice cream or cake but it shouldn't be an every day occurrence. IMO once a week is fine but it shouldn't be a whole gallon of ice cream or a 2000 calorie dessert. A little serving or even a low cal alternatives is reasonable.
I am struggling with my husbands "all or nothing" attitude about food lately. Its not about giving things up, its about replacing them with better options and eating other certain things moderation. It shouldn't be a "you cant have..." attitude. I focus on "this is type of food is great for you and we are going to limit these...."
Just my 2 cents
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I get what you're trying to prove, but mostly you come off as a stereotypical jerk.
denial0 -
Piging out once a week as a treat - you will fail (calories)
I believe a healthy lifestyle is about balance. I go out to eat with my husband and allow myself 1 meal a week to eat w/e I want without thinking too much about the calories. Saying that, most of the time my meal is not over 1000 calories and it is not an all day event. So I really agree with this statement but I think it could be misinterpreted. I think an occasional high cal meal is fine but pigging out...hell no. So yeah, your right...haha
I also think there is room for sweets but again...in moderation. I cant imagine going the rest of my life without eating ice cream or cake but it shouldn't be an every day occurrence. IMO once a week is fine but it shouldn't be a whole gallon of ice cream or a 2000 calorie dessert. A little serving or even a low cal alternatives is reasonable.
I am struggling with my husbands "all or nothing" attitude about food lately. Its not about giving things up, its about replacing them with better options and eating other certain things moderation. It shouldn't be a "you cant have..." attitude. I focus on "this is type of food is great for you and we are going to limit these...."
Just my 2 cents
Yeah I agree - I think I'm coming from the I've undereaten 500 cals a day all week. I've been so good I can have a 3000 cal takeaway with a desert to - then don't understand why I can't lose weight
Definitely about a little of what you like within your calorie goals0 -
I agree. Except I think cardio is quite important (think about how much we are designed to move around vs how much the average couch potato actually does). And there is plenty of evidence that dark chocolate is positively good for you. It's the sweet cr*p cadburys and hershey etc try to sell us as chocolate that's not.
Yeah I mean if you are going to weight train or cardio for weight loss - weights are probably more effective. But, no doubting cardio is good.
Yeah I've heard plain chocolate is good - it's a bit bitter though isn't it0 -
"If you are still a bit saggy you aint lost enough"
How is that plausible? My skin is saggy because I was large before.
I was nice and tight when I was heavy. LOL.0 -
You said it Mister Great post! 0
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"If you are still a bit saggy you aint lost enough"
How is that plausible? My skin is saggy because I was large before.
I was nice and tight when I was heavy. LOL.
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Great post, completely agree with all of these. I've read positive things about having a "cheat day" once a week, what makes you disagree with that? Not picking an argument, just want to know which track to follow! Maybe I should stop using something I read in a book as an excuse to eat badly once a week...
I'm particularly bad for not recording my drinks (especially tea / coffee, unless I buy them) and not weighing things, but I've been trying to remember to do both the latter half of this week. Its amazing how greedy my eyes are - my portions are huge!0 -
I agree with most, especially the one about people who use food as an escape for problems. As much as I love food, I know that binging when I'm down is just being stupid. I force myself to work out when I have problems/depressed.0
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I am losing weight by just hitting my calories and macros and I sometimes eat things like Chipotle, Hardee's and Ritter's Frozen Custard.... How is indulging on a "cheat" bad? Eat something you love and savor and fit it into your macros....
Too many assumptions in your post0 -
Everything is debatable. I did not follow all of your "rules" and I met my goal and then some. I eat pizza, sometimes I indulge in "cheat" meals, I eat chocolate, and I do way more cardio than weights (cardio is good for your heart, mister!). My point is that everyone can find their own ways to be successful. There is no one way about it.
I do appreciate the purpose of your post but you might try being a little less condescending towards people if you want them to take you seriously.0 -
I agree with most of these.
However, muscle doesn't burn that many calories at rest, and cardio burns far more calories than strength training or a muscled person resting.
Also, metabolisms have a significant and thus far unaccounted for variance. Organs account for most of RMR, and non-organ lean mass and fat mass account for another small chunk, but there is a good bit of variance remaining that isn't explained yet.
^^ I was just going to post this.
Cardio is GREAT for burning fat, and everybody has a different metabolism. That's just a duh.
I am anti-cheat day as well, though. ONE cheat BITE, maybe. But one cheat day a meal can really screw things up for me mentally and in the long-run.
Personal preference, though! 0 -
I love the "lick the urinal" line. I'm absolutely going to use that. ;D0
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I love the honesty. Great post!0
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I agree with most of these.
However, muscle doesn't burn that many calories at rest, and cardio burns far more calories than strength training or a muscled person resting.
Also, metabolisms have a significant and thus far unaccounted for variance. Organs account for most of RMR, and non-organ lean mass and fat mass account for another small chunk, but there is a good bit of variance remaining that isn't explained yet.
^^ I was just going to post this.
Cardio is GREAT for burning fat, and everybody has a different metabolism. That's just a duh.
I am anti-cheat day as well, though. ONE cheat BITE, maybe. But one cheat day a meal can really screw things up for me mentally and in the long-run. Personal preference, though!
ummmm -- yes strength training burns a lot of calories. Its the after burn when you are done lifting where it burns the most where as for cardio you are burning during0 -
Great post!!! :drinker:0
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Great post!0
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I agree with all except that I don't need chocolate. I am woman, chocolate is necessity! lol0
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Amen, brother. Amen. (Added)
I agree with almost all of that. My emphasis has been on the *type* of food moreso than the *quantity* of food. High quality, clean, whole, paleo-friendly food is just more satiating than the other stuff, and even though I actually work hard to eat *more* calories as I am trying to slowly gain weight, it can be a struggle because of that.
Oh, and I may not *need* chocolate, but I'm still going to eat my 85% Green & Black's.0 -
I really want to disagree with all your posts but I can't. I want to tell you are wrong but you are not. It's pretty f**king irritating that I have taken on board what you have said and will probably use your words to stop myself from turning to old habits when I'm feeling the old me creeping back out. It's pretty awesome that you took the time to type out the truth in your thinking and when I complete my transition from previously fit to previously fat I will be sure to stop back and Thank you 0
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The thing is, who is perfect, who controls every last drop that goes in there mouth 365 days a year, yes we all want to be fit and healthy but wheres the fun in eating veg and meat every day of your lives/0
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Completely agree with everything you said about diet/food habits and exercise, it's working for me so far, but you went off the rails about 2/3 in, what a judge-y mess. Some of it makes you seem not that good to be around, so would that be, like, carryover from when you used to be fat and therefore unpleasant and gross?0
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Totally dig the post, but I NEED a burger every now and then!!!
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No thanks.Feel free to add......0 -
The thing is, who is perfect, who controls every last drop that goes in there mouth 365 days a year, yes we all want to be fit and healthy but wheres the fun in eating veg and meat every day of your lives/
I'm not perfect...(not even close)...but I've been the one in control of "every last drop" I've consumed...and so have you. You may have made some choices that you later regretted, but don't be mislead; you were the one who was in control.
And if you don't like the food you're eating, eat something different. Seriously, it's that simple. Since I dropped the fast food/boxed/bagged/packaged/processed "food" (and dropped the incredibly addictive grains), I've eaten a far more varied diet. There are so many different kinds of meats, veggies, fruits out there, and so many different ways to fix them Sure, I have some standbys I go to when I haven't adequately planned ahead, but those are my "favorites" (which is why I don't mind eating them more often). Today was a fairly typical day: breakfast was five eggs cooked in coconut oil w/ a large mug of bulletproof coffee (coffe, kg butter, and MCT oil). Lunch was baked sockeye salmon with a salad of broccoli, cauliflower, and avocado...delicious. And tonight will be a tasty hunk of meat with baked sweet potatoes, roasted garlicky cauliflower, and whatever other veggies I have around the house. Nothing "unfun" about any of that.0
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