Do NOT skip out on a meal!

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  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member
    Lol!!! In the form of a text... :P NOT a text book mind you. You can't tell someones emotions in a text. But, that's MY opinion. :)
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member

    Don't worry, I will take out all of the smart *kitten* comments :) Luckily for you I don't become offended easily. You have some great information, and I would love to know how you came about all this knowledge! Have you studied nutrition and body training?

    I have a passion for fitness and nutrition and I read a lot. I have no credentials or formal education in nutrition.

    If you would like a credible source or two, I would very highly recommend:

    www.alanaragon.com (<--- Alan Aragon)
    www.weightology.net (<-- James Krieger)
    www.bodyrecomposition.com (<---Lyle McDonald)

    The above people have articles, and research, that will likely draw much more attention to a professor vs some random guy on the internet (me). But, you can still share my posts with them at your leisure.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    In my opinion it is not the skipped meal that is the problem. It is what you do with the rest of them.



    Be honest, no one ended up here because they ate the appropriate calories every day, we are here because we didn't pay attention to what we were eating and/or how much we were eating.

    ^ Good stuff up here.
  • LovelyNFit
    LovelyNFit Posts: 92 Member
    bump
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member

    Don't worry, I will take out all of the smart *kitten* comments :) Luckily for you I don't become offended easily. You have some great information, and I would love to know how you came about all this knowledge! Have you studied nutrition and body training?

    I have a passion for fitness and nutrition and I read a lot. I have no credentials or formal education in nutrition.

    If you would like a credible source or two, I would very highly recommend:

    www.alanaragon.com (<--- Alan Aragon)
    www.weightology.net (<-- James Krieger)
    www.bodyrecomposition.com (<---Lyle McDonald)

    The above people have articles, and research, that will likely draw much more attention to a professor vs some random guy on the internet (me). But, you can still share my posts with them at your leisure.

    Thank you very much again for all of the information! I must go and start on the writing!
  • amoffatt
    amoffatt Posts: 674 Member
    Got it! Thanks for posting. I am reading it all right now. I was ALWAYS told to eat breakfast, but for real.. I don't ever feel like eating breakfast. I HATE eating in the morning. It's aggravating. If I have to consume something I just like water. I don't even understand why I hate it so much. I think I just don't like chewing anything in the morning. I thought I was just weird. And I also was told that was going to make it to where I couldn't lose weight. :(

    For you specifically, I would try skipping breakfast for a week or so. BE SURE to eat all your calories by end of day so that you're still eating the same total amount of food as you are now, just don't eat breakfast and eat those calories later. See how you enjoy it. You'll probably love it.

    This is good to know. I am learning through this journey as well and I have a friend doing Advocare. She stated that they told her if a person doesn't eat within 1 hour of waking up then the body starts to store calories and no one can lose. When I asked her how I was losing by missing breakfast most days, she just told me it was muscle then, not fat. People will believe what they want, but to inform others versus putting their ideas down gets me.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member

    Don't worry, I will take out all of the smart *kitten* comments :) Luckily for you I don't become offended easily. You have some great information, and I would love to know how you came about all this knowledge! Have you studied nutrition and body training?

    I have a passion for fitness and nutrition and I read a lot. I have no credentials or formal education in nutrition.

    If you would like a credible source or two, I would very highly recommend:

    www.alanaragon.com (<--- Alan Aragon)
    www.weightology.net (<-- James Krieger)
    www.bodyrecomposition.com (<---Lyle McDonald)

    The above people have articles, and research, that will likely draw much more attention to a professor vs some random guy on the internet (me). But, you can still share my posts with them at your leisure.

    Thank you very much again for all of the information! I must go and start on the writing!

    Don't forget www.leangains.com...as Sidesteal linked earlier.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Got it! Thanks for posting. I am reading it all right now. I was ALWAYS told to eat breakfast, but for real.. I don't ever feel like eating breakfast. I HATE eating in the morning. It's aggravating. If I have to consume something I just like water. I don't even understand why I hate it so much. I think I just don't like chewing anything in the morning. I thought I was just weird. And I also was told that was going to make it to where I couldn't lose weight. :(

    For you specifically, I would try skipping breakfast for a week or so. BE SURE to eat all your calories by end of day so that you're still eating the same total amount of food as you are now, just don't eat breakfast and eat those calories later. See how you enjoy it. You'll probably love it.
    She stated that they told her if a person doesn't eat within 1 hour of waking up then the body starts to store calories and no one can lose.

    This is just basically nonsense, as you know.
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member

    Don't worry, I will take out all of the smart *kitten* comments :) Luckily for you I don't become offended easily. You have some great information, and I would love to know how you came about all this knowledge! Have you studied nutrition and body training?

    I have a passion for fitness and nutrition and I read a lot. I have no credentials or formal education in nutrition.

    If you would like a credible source or two, I would very highly recommend:

    www.alanaragon.com (<--- Alan Aragon)
    www.weightology.net (<-- James Krieger)
    www.bodyrecomposition.com (<---Lyle McDonald)

    The above people have articles, and research, that will likely draw much more attention to a professor vs some random guy on the internet (me). But, you can still share my posts with them at your leisure.

    Thank you very much again for all of the information! I must go and start on the writing!

    Don't forget www.leangains.com...as Sidesteal linked earlier.

    I've got it written down. Thanks!
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
  • LynC33
    LynC33 Posts: 196
    People, please don't listen to this nonsense.
    A caloric deficit is how people lose weight, if you gained weight you were inaccurately counting calories. Plain and simple.
    There sure were tons of people in the holocaust who were still fat from starvation mode, or what about those starving kids on the world vision commercials...total fatties!

    Gimme a break with the eat 2-3 hours every day small meal crap, the reason people lose weight doing that is because AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU ARE IN A CALORIC DEFICIT!

    People choose their 'diets' around their lifestyle, I have lost 80 pounds and I have been able to eat popcorn, ice cream and hamburgers, etc and fit them into my daily caloric totals all while not eating breakfast! OH NO! **SARCASM ALERT**

    You should probably do a little more research before preaching BS weight loss gospel on MFP.


    OMG you can say what you need to say to her without being nasty you know.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    My trainer said not to waste time on before and after eating plans. Eat what you want or eat nothing, unless you are in excellent shape and are fine tuning in competition.However drink enough water to keep hydrated
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    My trainer said not to waste time on before and after eating plans. Eat what you want or eat nothing, unless you are in excellent shape and are fine tuning in competition.However drink enough water to keep hydrated
    Your trainer is an idiot. If you eat what you want or eat nothing, you will never be in great shape.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    My trainer said not to waste time on before and after eating plans. Eat what you want or eat nothing, unless you are in excellent shape and are fine tuning in competition.However drink enough water to keep hydrated
    Your trainer is an idiot. If you eat what you want or eat nothing, you will never be in great shape.

    He meant before or after a workout.

    I wonder who the idiot is?
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
    I like to have to to have an equal balance of protein/carb around 40/50 grams each in liquid form prior to working out. My post workout meal has the largest amount of carbs per day. You have to find what works for you.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    My trainer said not to waste time on before and after eating plans. Eat what you want or eat nothing, unless you are in excellent shape and are fine tuning in competition.However drink enough water to keep hydrated
    Your trainer is an idiot. If you eat what you want or eat nothing, you will never be in great shape.

    He meant before or after a workout.

    I wonder who the idiot is?
    Re-read what he said.

    Please try again.
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
    I like to have to to have an equal balance of protein/carb around 40/50 grams each in liquid form prior to working out. My post workout meal has the largest amount of carbs per day. You have to find what works for you.

    That's also what I have done and it works great! I also drink an amino boost before during and after my work out.
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
    I like to have to to have an equal balance of protein/carb around 40/50 grams each in liquid form prior to working out. My post workout meal has the largest amount of carbs per day. You have to find what works for you.

    That's also what I have done and it works great! I also drink an amino boost before during and after my work out.
    I am assuming that amino boost are BCAA's. If you're consuming protein prior to working out, you don't need the amino boost. I would even argue that you don't need it after you workout either.
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
    I like to have to to have an equal balance of protein/carb around 40/50 grams each in liquid form prior to working out. My post workout meal has the largest amount of carbs per day. You have to find what works for you.

    That's also what I have done and it works great! I also drink an amino boost before during and after my work out.
    I am assuming that amino boost are BCAA's. If you're consuming protein prior to working out, you don't need the amino boost. I would even argue that you don't need it after you workout either.

    I don't have protein prior to working out mainly because, if I do I feel sick. Don't know why, but I do. So I eat some carrots or something light before going and drink my amino boost then the protein.
  • stupidloser
    stupidloser Posts: 300 Member
    Eat ice cream!
  • akiramezu
    akiramezu Posts: 278
    Not sure if serious or joking..
  • Jotell
    Jotell Posts: 139 Member
    Eat ice cream!

    So totally would!
  • AntWrig
    AntWrig Posts: 2,273 Member
    The only time I find it to be very important to eat anything is before and after my workouts. After that, I eat whenever I want to. As long as I hit my macros (Fat, Carbs, Protein) targets for the day I am good.

    I've been told high protein more specifically before and after a workout. What is your intake on that? Or is it the same?
    I like to have to to have an equal balance of protein/carb around 40/50 grams each in liquid form prior to working out. My post workout meal has the largest amount of carbs per day. You have to find what works for you.

    That's also what I have done and it works great! I also drink an amino boost before during and after my work out.
    I am assuming that amino boost are BCAA's. If you're consuming protein prior to working out, you don't need the amino boost. I would even argue that you don't need it after you workout either.

    I don't have protein prior to working out mainly because, if I do I feel sick. Don't know why, but I do. So I eat some carrots or something light before going and drink my amino boost then the protein.
    Ah makes sense!
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
    I agree with your premiss. People shouldn't starve themselves, but you didn't gain three pounds from eating less. Your body can go into conservation mode and save what calories it can for a while, but it won't completely stop losing weight, and it certainly won't gain weight on less food.

    ^^^^^THis ^^^^^

    Starvation mode has some validity in some extreme cases--I even used it in a post earlier tonight concerning somebody who was highly active and maintaining only a 1200 calorie intake. I agree with balancing meals throughout the day for purposes of energy maintenance throughout the day but not because omitting a meal is going to set us on a course of destruction into starvation mode.

    We did not get to be obese by eating less food.. We ate too much more than we were using and got fat from it. Now we are eating at a deficit to lose weight... If we eat one meal or seven, it is the same... Calories in - calories out = ? The key is doing everything in balance.

    In the mid 1980s, I was on a similar journey... I ate probably between 900 and 1200 calories per day and exercised like crazy... The result? I lost from 260 to 170 in a matter of months. On the negative side, due to lack of protein, my strength training worked against me and I did not gain the muscle mass I wanted... When I got off the restrictive diet, I quickly regained as I resumed my previous lifestyle... I ate candy and still lost.. because I did not eat the good stuff I needed to.. Did I lose weight? ABSOLUTELY... Did I go into starvation mode? Probably but the extreme deficit over rode that and I did lose weight consistently... Was it a healthy loss... NO!.. IT WAS STUPID... But I did still lose weight... Just was not a healthy loss.

    I am taking a different approach this time around.. It is more sustainable though slower.. I am not event trying to lose down to 170 because I am trying to build muscle and become a healthy 225 (it is over my BMI recommendation but if it is a lean 225, it will still be healthy)...

    I agree with OP that we need to be healthy in what we are doing and lose weight the right way. Skipping meals makes little sense IF we are exercising because we lack the energy we need to do what we are trying to do. On the other hand, I broke through a mini-plateau the day I had oral surgery because I could not eat at all... It shocked my system into dropping weight... and there was a little up tick after I started back on my routine... BUT it did not go all the way back up... I say that to say, if we skip a meal... It won't be the end of the world.. .but I would not do it that way purposefully on a regular basis...
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    Not true here. Lots of recent studies show that as long as the same calories consumed in the average person, there will statistically very little difference.

    On a trained body (someone like me or seriously into athletics etc) you may experience performance changes in power and endurance that could effect their results.

    The every day person that pops to the gym a few days a week and does some cardio? Nah.
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    Oh, starvation mode is bull. Unless someone would like to tell me which feedback systems within the body are being worked to bring on this mode.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    I think it is also - I'm not that hungry today and only at around 800 calories

    so MFP decides to tell me

    Based on your total calories consumed for today, you are eating too few calories. Not only is it difficult to receive adequate nutrition at these calorie levels, but you could also be putting your body into starvation mode. Starvation mode lowers your metabolism and makes weight loss more difficult. We suggest increasing your calorie consumption to 1,200 calories per day minimum.

    Sigh - What is this 1200 one size fits all

    bedtime and I'm not eating any more
  • TadaGanIarracht
    TadaGanIarracht Posts: 2,615 Member
    Sighs.. please do some research before you decide to post something like this.
  • militarydreams
    militarydreams Posts: 198 Member
    Fastest way to bring the MFP elitists together on one forum topic? Post a bunch of bulls**t as bait and wait for the nibbles :laugh: