Let the bloodbath begin....
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I say let everyone decide for themselves. Who am I to say you can or can't log something as exercise. If I don't agree with it I move on. End of story. People need not worry so much about what others are doing.
You're totally missing the point.
If someone went on the forum and said "I have just 500 calories a day, and it works for me" the debate wouldn't be whether or not they are 'allowed' to do that, or whether or not it was anybody elses business! The debate would be whether or not it would be beneficial to do that, and whether or not others should also do that
I see no problem with anybody discussing the rights and wrongs of logging every single movement, none at all
This is what is wrong with this site and have me second guessing using it. There are way too many people who think it is their job and responsibility to correct others behavior. This is the internet. People are going to do what they are going to do. Voicing your opinion is not going to stop someone who is hell bent on doing something you wouldn't. I have used fitday and sparkpeople and I must say MFP is the most judgmental bunch. Of course this doesn't apply to all, but there are more than a few members who think they know everything and must correct everyone else. There are countless articles and studies that encourage people to do household chores as exercise to stay fit and lose weight. This is not a debatable issue in the fitness community. Think link even points out which muscle groups you work when you do specific chores, http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/tips/expert-advice/how-many-calories-do-you-burn-with-household-chores/
If you don't want to log chores, don't log chores, but don't knock someone for doing something that works for them. Telling them they are wrong is not in the spirit of support which is suppose to be the focus of this site.0 -
I say let everyone decide for themselves. Who am I to say you can or can't log something as exercise. If I don't agree with it I move on. End of story. People need not worry so much about what others are doing.
You're totally missing the point.
If someone went on the forum and said "I have just 500 calories a day, and it works for me" the debate wouldn't be whether or not they are 'allowed' to do that, or whether or not it was anybody elses business! The debate would be whether or not it would be beneficial to do that, and whether or not others should also do that
I see no problem with anybody discussing the rights and wrongs of logging every single movement, none at all
This is what is wrong with this site and have me second guessing using it. There are way too many people who think it is their job and responsibility to correct others behavior. This is the internet. People are going to do what they are going to do. Voicing your opinion is not going to stop someone who is hell bent on doing something you wouldn't. I have used fitday and sparkpeople and I must say MFP is the most judgmental bunch. Of course this doesn't apply to all, but there are more than a few members who think they know everything and must correct everyone else. There are countless articles and studies that encourage people to do household chores as exercise to stay fit and lose weight. This is not a debatable issue in the fitness community. Think link even points out which muscle groups you work when you do specific chores, http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/tips/expert-advice/how-many-calories-do-you-burn-with-household-chores/
If you don't want to log chores, don't log chores, but don't knock someone for doing something that works for them. Telling them they are wrong is not in the spirit of support which is suppose to be the focus of this site.
^^Exactly
I'm not missing the point at all. The point is we all see things differently and if "mary" logs her house chores as exercise that is her business. She can state it has helped her lose weight and you can state that you don't think that's right but that doesn't mean it isn't right for her. What is beneficial to her and her weight loss might not be so for you. You have to do what works for you.
Personally I wouldn't log chores as exercise unless it's mowing the lawn because that isn't something I always do. But just because I wouldn't log it doesn't mean I'm going to come on here and tell someone else not to log it. And just because I don't think walking to the bathroom or loading the dishwasher is beneficial to me and my weight loss doesn't mean it isn't so someone else. People reading a post like that have to take into consideration an persons age, height, weight, gender, etc.
If you don't agree with it you have the right to say it but then move on. I don't see why people get bent out of shape over it. If you have your own mind/thoughts/and you've educated yourself then you need not worry about what "mary" is doing.0 -
I say let everyone decide for themselves. Who am I to say you can or can't log something as exercise. If I don't agree with it I move on. End of story. People need not worry so much about what others are doing.
You're totally missing the point.
If someone went on the forum and said "I have just 500 calories a day, and it works for me" the debate wouldn't be whether or not they are 'allowed' to do that, or whether or not it was anybody elses business! The debate would be whether or not it would be beneficial to do that, and whether or not others should also do that
I see no problem with anybody discussing the rights and wrongs of logging every single movement, none at all
This is what is wrong with this site and have me second guessing using it. There are way too many people who think it is their job and responsibility to correct others behavior. This is the internet. People are going to do what they are going to do. Voicing your opinion is not going to stop someone who is hell bent on doing something you wouldn't. I have used fitday and sparkpeople and I must say MFP is the most judgmental bunch. Of course this doesn't apply to all, but there are more than a few members who think they know everything and must correct everyone else. There are countless articles and studies that encourage people to do household chores as exercise to stay fit and lose weight. This is not a debatable issue in the fitness community. Think link even points out which muscle groups you work when you do specific chores, http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/tips/expert-advice/how-many-calories-do-you-burn-with-household-chores/
If you don't want to log chores, don't log chores, but don't knock someone for doing something that works for them. Telling them they are wrong is not in the spirit of support which is suppose to be the focus of this site.
Again you're missing the point
People can log what they want. It could be good for some, not so good for others. I've never said it is wrong, Ive never said you shouldnt do it
All I'm saying is that we, on a public forum should be able to debate the merits or otherwise
In fact, you're doing just that, you're giving a firm opinion that chores as an exercise are good for you, based on what you have seen in articles. You could say that you're 'correcting' those that don't agree with this!
You put that side of the argument forward - excellent. Exactly what you should do
And others put their side of the argument forward - you seem to be classifying this lot as 'know-it-alls who want to correct everybody else'!0 -
I say let everyone decide for themselves. Who am I to say you can or can't log something as exercise. If I don't agree with it I move on. End of story. People need not worry so much about what others are doing.
You're totally missing the point.
If someone went on the forum and said "I have just 500 calories a day, and it works for me" the debate wouldn't be whether or not they are 'allowed' to do that, or whether or not it was anybody elses business! The debate would be whether or not it would be beneficial to do that, and whether or not others should also do that
I see no problem with anybody discussing the rights and wrongs of logging every single movement, none at all
This is what is wrong with this site and have me second guessing using it. There are way too many people who think it is their job and responsibility to correct others behavior. This is the internet. People are going to do what they are going to do. Voicing your opinion is not going to stop someone who is hell bent on doing something you wouldn't. I have used fitday and sparkpeople and I must say MFP is the most judgmental bunch. Of course this doesn't apply to all, but there are more than a few members who think they know everything and must correct everyone else. There are countless articles and studies that encourage people to do household chores as exercise to stay fit and lose weight. This is not a debatable issue in the fitness community. Think link even points out which muscle groups you work when you do specific chores, http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/workout/tips/expert-advice/how-many-calories-do-you-burn-with-household-chores/
If you don't want to log chores, don't log chores, but don't knock someone for doing something that works for them. Telling them they are wrong is not in the spirit of support which is suppose to be the focus of this site.
Again you're missing the point
People can log what they want. It could be good for some, not so good for others. I've never said it is wrong, Ive never said you shouldnt do it
All I'm saying is that we, on a public forum should be able to debate the merits or otherwise
In fact, you're doing just that, you're giving a firm opinion that chores as an exercise are good for you, based on what you have seen in articles. You could say that you're 'correcting' those that don't agree with this!
You put that side of the argument forward - excellent. Exactly what you should do
And others put their side of the argument forward - you seem to be classifying this lot as 'know-it-alls who want to correct everybody else'!
Personally, as I've said repeatedly, I couldn't care less if someone has a differing opinion on the issue. If you don't think it's beneficial, fine, don't do it, but don't treat me as though I'm an idiot because I do log chores (one day a week) which require a SIGNIFICANT amount of activity as exercise. It's the condescending attitudes that most of us are having a problem with. Not everyone who logs chores is logging EVERY little chore they do. In fact, from what I'm reading, most of us are only logging it one day a week when we do deep cleaning. If I do the dishes (by hand) for fifteen minutes on Monday evening, I'm not gonna log that because it's not worth my time to do so. However, on Saturday morning when I get up at 7:30-8am and spend the better part of the morning doing chores that require continuous, vigorous effort, sure I'm gonna log that. I understand why someone would question logging EVERY SINGLE "activity" that requires even minimal movement. I just don't get why it's "sooooo foolish" in the minds of some people to log housework or yard chores that require significant effort for long periods of time.0 -
Personally, as I've said repeatedly, I couldn't care less if someone has a differing opinion on the issue. If you don't think it's beneficial, fine, don't do it, but don't treat me as though I'm an idiot because I do log chores (one day a week) which require a SIGNIFICANT amount of activity as exercise. It's the condescending attitudes that most of us are having a problem with. Not everyone who logs chores is logging EVERY little chore they do. In fact, from what I'm reading, most of us are only logging it one day a week when we do deep cleaning. If I do the dishes (by hand) for fifteen minutes on Monday evening, I'm not gonna log that because it's not worth my time to do so. However, on Saturday morning when I get up at 7:30-8am and spend the better part of the morning doing chores that require continuous, vigorous effort, sure I'm gonna log that. I understand why someone would question logging EVERY SINGLE "activity" that requires even minimal movement. I just don't get why it's "sooooo foolish" in the minds of some people to log housework or yard chores that require significant effort for long periods of time.
But I honestly haven't seen anyone saying it's foolish to log the chores, or anyone calling someone else an idiot
Ive seen people say they don't understand why people do it, but that's different
I like the debates about whether you should or not - I don't like people getting irate about it all though; and insults are always wrong0 -
People should be allowed to log what they want as exercise. The purpose of this site is to help us keep track of our meals and exercise to aid in our fitness management. Why does anyone care how other people manage their own fitness?
The problem isn't logging, it's asking others whether they should log an activity that most people would consider routine activity, not exercise. The fact that people ask makes me think that they on some level know they're kidding themselves.0 -
I have myself set to sedentary. I log cycling and workouts. I let my fitbit calculate anything else I do, even if it doesn't pick up on me vacuuming and doing the laundry. I, personally, would not even think to log cleaning and housework extra, as to me, those are just part of basic daily activity. I have even seen people logging a calorie burn for sitting typing at their keyboard and it struck me as a bit silly really.0
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I have myself set to sedentary. I log cycling and workouts. I let my fitbit calculate anything else I do, even if it doesn't pick up on me vacuuming and doing the laundry. I, personally, would not even think to log cleaning and housework extra, as to me, those are just part of basic daily activity. I have even seen people logging a calorie burn for sitting typing at their keyboard and it struck me as a bit silly really.
I like this
I wear my FitBit and let it do its thing, I very rarely override it with an activity.If I do a hard intense walk - I might take my HRM and use that. My strength workouts - I don't think significant enough.
I'm mostly sedentary at a computer, today I spent 2 hours walking around shopping, 1 hour doing a non-stop walk,1 hour walking around cooking,1.5 hours gardening and digging new plants, maybe another 1.5 just wandering around the house. I got 939 calories so far.
I think its better to spend the time running up and down the stairs rather than logging every little thing.0 -
I say ...........
PMSL. Is this STILL going on??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
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