Cardio makes you fat: "Women: Running into Trouble"

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  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    lol - wow. I have NO idea what to say. Ha.

    As far as someone's T3 turning back to normal for the Cardio Queens - yeah, explain that to someone with Hashimoto's which is an auto-immune disease which is the causation of hypothyroidism in those individuals.
    That's true, but you should be taking thyroid hormone replacements to get your levels back to normal. Perpetually low thyroid hormone levels is insanely bad for your health.

    I have a friend with Hashimoto's who started on an IF+resistance training regimen, and he's been getting great results with that, if that helps.

    It's sort of funny how many issues IF/Resistance training seems to help and or work well with.
  • TheNewo
    TheNewo Posts: 239 Member
    um...I agree that lifting weights should be an integral part of any one's fat loss program (man or woman)
    but the title "Cardio makes you fat"? Pure sensationalism. Shennanigans!!!!
  • thelovelyLIZ
    thelovelyLIZ Posts: 1,227 Member
    I think running is great for weight loss and healthy, but only to an extent. I was losing really easily when I started running, because I was typically not running more than 30 minutes a few times a week. I've since started training for a half marathon, which is exciting, but I've found my weight loss has slowed, and I may have put back on a couple pounds. Part of it may also be the my eating hasn't been top notch either, but it's REALLY HARD to eat back 600+ calories from my long runs. And sure running has given me great leg strength, but I've founding other things, specifically strength training, to be just as important.

    So basically, long distance running isn't really conducive to weight loss, and you need more than just cardio to get to toned and fit looking.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    lol - wow. I have NO idea what to say. Ha.

    As far as someone's T3 turning back to normal for the Cardio Queens - yeah, explain that to someone with Hashimoto's which is an auto-immune disease which is the causation of hypothyroidism in those individuals.
    That's true, but you should be taking thyroid hormone replacements to get your levels back to normal. Perpetually low thyroid hormone levels is insanely bad for your health.

    I have a friend with Hashimoto's who started on an IF+resistance training regimen, and he's been getting great results with that, if that helps.

    It's sort of funny how many issues IF/Resistance training seems to help and or work well with.
    IF is freaking magical. A lot of the current research on life extension suggests a HUGE boost to lifespan and reduction in senescence and age-related disorders as a result of fasting. Growth hormone levels after 20 hours fasted are >10x baseline, massive upregulation of FOXO occurs (which is probably responsible for the extended lifespan, reduction in cancer rates, etc.)... also, getting to eat huge 1600-2000 calorie meals and stay ripped is amazing.

    Also, I am insanely busy for most of the day, and not having to eat for 16-22 hours is insanely helpful.

    You can't spell LIFE without IF! :PPPP
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    lol - wow. I have NO idea what to say. Ha.

    As far as someone's T3 turning back to normal for the Cardio Queens - yeah, explain that to someone with Hashimoto's which is an auto-immune disease which is the causation of hypothyroidism in those individuals.
    That's true, but you should be taking thyroid hormone replacements to get your levels back to normal. Perpetually low thyroid hormone levels is insanely bad for your health.

    I have a friend with Hashimoto's who started on an IF+resistance training regimen, and he's been getting great results with that, if that helps.

    It's sort of funny how many issues IF/Resistance training seems to help and or work well with.
    IF is freaking magical. A lot of the current research on life extension suggests a HUGE boost to lifespan and reduction in senescence and age-related disorders as a result of fasting. Growth hormone levels after 20 hours fasted are >10x baseline, massive upregulation of FOXO occurs (which is probably responsible for the extended lifespan, reduction in cancer rates, etc.)... also, getting to eat huge 1600-2000 calorie meals and stay ripped is amazing.

    Also, I am insanely busy for most of the day, and not having to eat for 16-22 hours is insanely helpful.

    You can't spell LIFE without IF! :PPPP

    Haha...you sound sooooo much like me here, it's almost funny!
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    Haha...you sound sooooo much like me here, it's almost funny!
    Great minds and all that :P
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Haha...you sound sooooo much like me here, it's almost funny!
    Great minds and all that :P
    Do you two need a room? :love: :tongue:
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Haha...you sound sooooo much like me here, it's almost funny!
    Great minds and all that :P
    Do you two need a room? :love: :tongue:

    Wanna referee?

    Ok...wait...that was wrong on sooo many levels lol.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Haha...you sound sooooo much like me here, it's almost funny!
    Great minds and all that :P
    Do you two need a room? :love: :tongue:

    Wanna referee?

    Ok...wait...that was wrong on sooo many levels lol.
    LOL - in the true sense, started laughing out loud to myself. Thanks!
  • roodledoodle
    roodledoodle Posts: 183
    Have you ever seen a fat marathon runner? (Man or woman that has been doing this for years) I call BS.

    Exactly my thought!
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Have you ever seen a fat marathon runner? (Man or woman that has been doing this for years) I call BS.

    Exactly my thought!

    ::head desk:::
    repeat.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Have you ever seen a fat marathon runner? (Man or woman that has been doing this for years) I call BS.

    Exactly my thought!

    ::head desk:::
    repeat.

    My desk has a dent in it. It will need a new repair soon.

    I was breaking keyboards for awhile...but it got expensive...so I learned to move it first.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Have you ever seen a fat marathon runner? (Man or woman that has been doing this for years) I call BS.

    Exactly my thought!

    ::head desk:::
    repeat.

    My desk has a dent in it. It will need a new repair soon.

    I was breaking keyboards for awhile...but it got expensive...so I learned to move it first.

    Well, now that the conversation has gotten too long for people to read the discussion before they jump in to the conversation, that's my cue to leave. Peace out!
  • joselo2
    joselo2 Posts: 461
  • I also call BS. MAYBE this is true for some people, but for most running like any cardio burns the extra calories we eat on a daily basis. Once upon a time I was well over 200 pounds. Thanks to running and spinning, I dropped fat and inches. I have gained weight back since I went back to school and stopped running. In 20 days when the Bar is finally over, I am sure a good running program will help me quickly drop the inches all those late night pizza binges with my study group packed on to my hips!
  • Prahasaurus
    Prahasaurus Posts: 1,381 Member
    Interesting. Does she have an opinion on "starvation mode"?

    --P
  • Kara_xxx
    Kara_xxx Posts: 635 Member

    Well sweetykins, when you next watch the London marathon, have a look and see how many of them look like the female world record holder... erm... not that many???

    ooh why is that you say? maybe because they're not 5 minute miling?

    Paula trains 110 miles a week... well she used to in her peak.

    So what's your point???????
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    cris the man said (if you actually read his post) that he does a 20 minute jog, interspersed with other activity. this, combined with the risible comments about stride length does, i'm afraid, amount to 'no, i'm not actually a runner'. i don't see how his paragraph about all the lifting he does, or his acknowledgement of an occasional '20 minute jog' allows an alternate interpretation.

    further, could you point to a single post that suggests anyone who doesn't run is stupid? no, i didn't think so.

    as to the rest of your post.... well clearly riding that scooter in your profile pic has addled your brains if you imagine i give a continental for what some post-pubescent boy on the interweb does or doesn't find amusing about what i write. what kind of gargantuan ego must lurk behind that kind of comment....? what on earth makes you imagine you have anything at all that qualifies you to pass judgement or to censure other posters for their style? having read a fair few of your posts previously, i can assure you there's nothing in your own writing that makes me imagine anyone turning to your literary tips. but thank you anyway. i'll be sure to give your stylistic advice all the attention it deserves the next time i give a publication seminar .
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    cris the man said (if you actually read his post) that he does a 20 minute jog, interspersed with other activity. this, combined with the risible comments about stride length does, i'm afraid, amount to 'no, i'm not actually a runner'. i don't see how his paragraph about all the lifting he does, or his acknowledgement of an occasional '20 minute jog' allows an alternate interpretation.

    And I know a lot of runners who will say pretty much the majority of people on here who claim to be runners aren't runners either. If you're not going at a fast enough pace then you're really not a runner, you're just a jogger.
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    cris the man said (if you actually read his post) that he does a 20 minute jog, interspersed with other activity. this, combined with the risible comments about stride length does, i'm afraid, amount to 'no, i'm not actually a runner'. i don't see how his paragraph about all the lifting he does, or his acknowledgement of an occasional '20 minute jog' allows an alternate interpretation.

    And I know a lot of runners who will say pretty much the majority of people on here who claim to be runners aren't runners either. If you're not going at a fast enough pace then you're really not a runner, you're just a jogger.

    ROFL.
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    cris the man said (if you actually read his post) that he does a 20 minute jog, interspersed with other activity. this, combined with the risible comments about stride length does, i'm afraid, amount to 'no, i'm not actually a runner'. i don't see how his paragraph about all the lifting he does, or his acknowledgement of an occasional '20 minute jog' allows an alternate interpretation.

    And I know a lot of runners who will say pretty much the majority of people on here who claim to be runners aren't runners either. If you're not going at a fast enough pace then you're really not a runner, you're just a jogger.

    ROFL.

    You can disagree all you want but the majority of the C25K "runners" will never be competitive and can only ever do it for weight loss, not sport.

    Which is what the problem is. Competitive running isn't the same as cardio jogging.
  • jeffpettis
    jeffpettis Posts: 865 Member
    Sooooo... what this article is saying is the more you run the fatter you will get??? Yeah I see fat marathon runners EVERYWHERE!!!
  • Bobby_Clerici
    Bobby_Clerici Posts: 1,828 Member
    Cardio does NOT cause anything but good when we eat the proper amount to re-feed our bodies.
    Do as much as you enjoy, but eat back those calories.
    And as always, there are some cabbage-brained dolts who over-do cardio to the point of being obsessives.
    Not talking about them in their tin foil hats....:laugh:
    I do a 3 hour workout per day - 1.5 hours cardio - 30 minutes intense resistance.
    And eat?
    Just check out my diary :drinker:

    NO ISSUES!
  • jonnyedu
    jonnyedu Posts: 2
    Hello

    I read through quickly and may have missed something but I believe the only logical answer is that the woman running is not eating properly. I have worked as a personal trainer and am a HE/ PE Teacher. I use to do the caliper tests on all my clients and get a log of their eating habitsfor a week prior to training. EVERYTHING goes i the log. For an accurate response on this blog we would need her weight, height , body fat, age, resting HR, and exercise HR. The lack of these variables will cause random statements about your friend and inacurate quesses about why she is not toning up.

    Jonathan
  • victoria4321
    victoria4321 Posts: 1,719 Member
    Hello

    I read through quickly and may have missed something but I believe the only logical answer is that the woman running is not eating properly. I have worked as a personal trainer and am a HE/ PE Teacher. I use to do the caliper tests on all my clients and get a log of their eating habitsfor a week prior to training. EVERYTHING goes i the log. For an accurate response on this blog we would need her weight, height , body fat, age, resting HR, and exercise HR. The lack of these variables will cause random statements about your friend and inacurate quesses about why she is not toning up.

    Jonathan

    I don't think we need all that when you can go to the gym and visually see the results. I can only go by what happens at my gym and others that I've been to. It looks like 85% of the people glued to cardio machines are all overweight or flabby. If all the running and elliptical-ing was working so well, they should look just as fit as anyone else who's getting a real work out in.
  • marycmeadows
    marycmeadows Posts: 1,691 Member
    I run and do cardio - BUT I also do a lot of strength training. Balance is key. People that run all the time (and don't do strength) often look sickly/sallow to me - but I think that's because runnin causes your muscles to be more efficient and leaned out. Just my opinion.
  • riccoismydog
    riccoismydog Posts: 319 Member
    Spend one week doing survival in the woods, and you will start to understand your body. And you will be amazed at the capabilities left over from when you were a cave person. What is inconvenient to us now and makes us feel fat or yucky, saved our lives in the past. Just saying. Anyhow, cardio doesn't burn fat once your fit. I do HIIT, with the aim of keeping my heart rate HIGH! for short periods (25minutes). Seem so work in my case. I hate running. Always have, always will.
  • darrensurrey
    darrensurrey Posts: 3,942 Member
    Certainly an interesting topic. (I may already have posted that. :o) )

    One issue with the clueless in the gym: they do 30 minutes on a treadmill then think "Well done, me! I'll reward myself with two doughnuts and a large cappuccino!" Plus continue to eat over their daily calorie requirements.

    The other thing I've noticed is that at the other end of the scale, constant state exercises like running or cycling doesn't seem to be enough to get from trim to lean. HIIT seems to make the difference, though.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    Great post!

    In my opinion, cardio has its place however the problem with many especially us women is that we overdo it & not to mention our hormonal make-up which makes us prone to store fat. Even fitness professionals will tell you that cardio is as important as weight training however overdoing it will bear negative result.
  • elri1908
    elri1908 Posts: 160 Member
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