(some of the) American guys...

MustBeTheRows

Maybe American guys are cheap because they're all saving up to buy their foreskins back? O_o

Still got mine, maybe that's why I don't mind paying?

skullshank

american guys suck.

right?!?!?

rml_16

there is a certain stereotype about american guys (again, this is not meant to offend anyone, i am a serbian and most of you will immediately think, terrorist)

Actually, we think nothing. It's pretty sad that you have such judgmental opinions of people. I may associate civil war with Serbia, but not terrorists. I guess I will now though, thanks.

I have never had that thought in my entire life. But ... thanks for thinking so little of me.

YokoJ

You're just picking the wrong men...bc if anything American men are little too frivolous with money. At least the ones I'm with.

MustBeTheRows

there is a certain stereotype about american guys (again, this is not meant to offend anyone, i am a serbian and most of you will immediately think, terrorist)

Actually, we think nothing. It's pretty sad that you have such judgmental opinions of people. I may associate civil war with Serbia, but not terrorists. I guess I will now though, thanks.

pretty sure she was joking...

MoreThanMommie

I think I'm more offended by the fact that you think most Americans are well off. :laugh:

secretlobster

A guy who spends most of a date complaining about anything is probably not going to get any more dates with me...

Natashaa1991

there is a certain stereotype about american guys (again, this is not meant to offend anyone, i am a serbian and most of you will immediately think, terrorist)

Actually, we think nothing. It's pretty sad that you have such judgmental opinions of people. I may associate civil war with Serbia, but not terrorists. I guess I will now though, thanks.

yes, this was a joke, thanks.

dreamingchild

american guys suck.

right?!?!?

thanks goodness that they suck

Natashaa1991

I think I'm more offended by the fact that you think most Americans are well off. :laugh:

haha no but those that i met are.

pittskaa

i have the same issue!!! like i don't mind paying for myself at all, but if you invite me out and youre just gonna complain about having to pay your own way? it's frustrating. dont go on dates with guys like that. or dont go anywhere with them.

Linbo93

DUMP HIM!!!
:noway:
What a miser - OUCH!
Here's the rule of a true gentleman. If I invite you, I pay. FOR EVERYTHING!
And we have a fabulous evening. And if I am not a man of great means, I plan things I can afford.
Seriously, dump this guy NOW!
Good Luck :flowerforyou:

100 times ^THIS

And the same goes for females. You do the inviting, you do the paying. Plan within your means. DTMFA.

Vaibhav_ace

DUMP HIM!!!
:noway:
What a miser - OUCH!
Here's the rule of a true gentleman. If I invite you, I pay. FOR EVERYTHING!
And we have a fabulous evening. And if I am not a man of great means, I plan things I can afford.
Seriously, dump this guy NOW!
Good Luck :flowerforyou:

^ This.

nolachick

all I know is you are hot. If I were on a date with you I'd just hand you my credit card and tell you to buy anything you want.

hahaha good one! lol.

Hellbent_Heidi

so the guy texted me and said that he doesn't wanna see me tonight because he doesn't wanna spend money (i'm sure it's that, he showed me that he liked me).

Don't take this the wrong way, but if he REALLY liked you, he'd be willing to spend the money or would find a way to see you anyway.

quixoteQ

You should try dating a Brit. I won't even pull your chair out for you without charging for it.

Nice, +1.

nolachick

I don't think this is a purely American phenomenon at all, people all over the world can be excessively frugal (don't get me started on some British men lol)

And trust me do NOT get involved. If a guy is cheap/frugal and you are not, it's setting up the stage for arguments about everything from food, leisure time, to how you live your entire life. Not worth it.

It's one thing if you both feel the need to tighten your belts, so to speak, in order to save towards a common goal, but it's entirely another to be with a guy who moans about every single penny spent. It's a difference in attitudes that'll never reach a common ground or compromise.

agreed. don't waste ur time. if he really was short on cash he wud find cheap/free activities to do and put in the effort to still do things that he can afford. he sounds like an idiot. DUMP HIM. FAST.

felice03

he keeps saying i'm beautiful, smart and funny so it's not me.
i respect him for not wasting his money (that means he is smart and respectful of his parents) but i got the impression that this guy only thinks about that, i mean why are you inviting me to a date if you are gonna behave like that?

wait??!! his parents?? does this mean he is living off mommy and daddy? THAT would be my concern vs him not wanting to spend money.

MustBeTheRows

all I know is you are hot. If I were on a date with you I'd just hand you my credit card and tell you to buy anything you want.

hahaha good one! lol.

zela

Let me help you OP.

Being a Serbian guy in America I can attest to people here being alot bigger cheapstakes than in Serbia where money is much more scarce. But I don't think you can call this a problem or slap an American label on it. People in Serbia are more different in their ways or culture than most people and always looking to please guests/friends. Going out with Serbian friends can be more of a drag as we always argue over who has the privilege of paying the bill. I'm not going to say either way is right or wrong, nor pass judgement on people.

nolachick

he keeps saying i'm beautiful, smart and funny so it's not me.
i respect him for not wasting his money (that means he is smart and respectful of his parents) but i got the impression that this guy only thinks about that, i mean why are you inviting me to a date if you are gonna behave like that?

respectful of his parents? does this mean he still lives at home? errr.... how old is this guy?

rml_16

he keeps saying i'm beautiful, smart and funny so it's not me.
i respect him for not wasting his money (that means he is smart and respectful of his parents) but i got the impression that this guy only thinks about that, i mean why are you inviting me to a date if you are gonna behave like that?

What I mean by "it's you" is that if every American man you have dated behaves this way, this is what you are attracting by the vibe you're putting out. I don't mean he necessarily doesn't like you.

But if this is the ONLY American man you've dated who behaves this way (even if he's the only American man you've dated), then how can you say this is some kind of trend or common trait among American men?

crobl

okay...here's my rant on the subject... who cares if the guy pays or not? I make good money so I have no problem paying for myself or my guy. I didn't realize women in America spent years pushing for equality just so we can piss and moan about not being treated like a princess!

I had a first date the other day - he told me point blank that he just bought a car the week before (which is true, it still has the temp. plates) and couldn't really afford anything fancy. So, he took me to an old-school drive in and then out to a part to watch fireworks.
Did he pay? Yes.
Did I also pull out my wallet? YES!
Did he tell me to put it away? Also yes.
Did I think he was a gentleman? Yes.
Was it because he paid? HELL NO.
It was because he opened the door for me, because he looked in my eyes when we talked, because he held my hand when I slipped on a grassy hill, and because unlike men in my past, when he said he'd call me the next day - HE DID.

If as women we keep getting caught up in who pays the check - then maybe you should just stop dating!

Cliffslosinit

american guys suck.

right?!?!?

thanks goodness that they suck

:flowerforyou: :drinker: :flowerforyou:

nolachick

so for you "non-cheap american guys out there." ..do u always pay? do u let girls pay when they offer? how far along into the relationship do u keep paying for dates? i've heard some ppl say just on the first date but i'm interested in what u boys will say about this one since u are not cheap skates and all...

Natashaa1991

Let me help you OP.

Being a Serbian guy in America I can attest to people here being alot bigger cheapstakes than in Serbia where money is much more scarce. But I don't think you can call this a problem or slap an American label on it. People in Serbia are more different in their ways or culture than most people and always looking to please guests/friends. Going out with Serbian friends can be more of a drag as we always argue over who has the privilege of paying the bill. I'm not going to say either way is right or wrong, nor pass judgement on people.

THIS! i don't like serbian guys in particular but i am used to guy paying a bill. but i don't expect that!

NevrOvr

i don't mind being spoiled i am not a feminist or stand for woman's rights or whatever, i do let the guy pay on a date but i don't do it for too long, i am always more comfortable when i pay for myself.
and this is not just one guy, there is a certain stereotype about american guys (again, this is not meant to offend anyone, i am a serbian and most of you will immediately think, terrorist)
i don't know what to say because a guy made me feel like i demanded from him to spend too much.

I love the part about not standing for women's rights. Ha! A woman not standing for women's rights. That is so refreshing.

Is this even a real post? Come on...gender inequality and nationalism? Trouble maker! :laugh:

nolachick

okay...here's my rant on the subject... who cares if the guy pays or not? I make good money so I have no problem paying for myself or my guy. I didn't realize women in America spent years pushing for equality just so we can piss and moan about not being treated like a princess!

I had a first date the other day - he told me point blank that he just bought a car the week before (which is true, it still has the temp. plates) and couldn't really afford anything fancy. So, he took me to an old-school drive in and then out to a part to watch fireworks.
Did he pay? Yes.
Did I also pull out my wallet? YES!
Did he tell me to put it away? Also yes.
Did I think he was a gentleman? Yes.
Was it because he paid? HELL NO.
It was because he opened the door for me, because he looked in my eyes when we talked, because he held my hand when I slipped on a grassy hill, and because unlike men in my past, when he said he'd call me the next day - HE DID.

If as women we keep getting caught up in who pays the check - then maybe you should just stop dating!

i agree that paying doesnt define a gentleman, most guys with a lot of money who pay for everything because they have money to wipe their butts with are complete A-holes....but i dont think its fair for u to bash on her becuz she met a cheap guy and is frustrated. i wudnt even go to date #2 with someone who was whining and complaining about money.
if he doesnt have money to go out and do stuff, HE shudnt be dating!

doorki

so for you "non-cheap american guys out there." ..do u always pay? do u let girls pay when they offer? how far along into the relationship do u keep paying for dates? i've heard some ppl say just on the first date but i'm interested in what u boys will say about this one since u are not cheap skates and all...

I usually put down the credit card in a non obvious way and will only allow her to pay until after we have slept together. (women always get one free.)

BenderFitness

It was very rude of him to complain like that throughout the date, especially as you were paying your own way most of the time. To me the way he was acting is the bigger issue than who is paying. I wouldn't worry about it to much. If you're just a couple of dates in and there is that much negativity it's not a good sign.

I don't think (most) American men are stingy. There are just certain individuals (regardless of nationality) that are cheaper than others. Unfortunately, I know more females that take advantage of men (and their wallets) then the other way around. Most women that I know can go out for a night on the town without paying for much (maybe the first cover charge, and 1 drink). Most of the men I know don't like to let a woman pay for anything on a date (even when they offer).