Not attracted to overweight women = "shallow"?
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It's not really shallow. I probably wouldn't date an overweight guy, strictly because I want to continue with my goals and I think maybe the influence would not be all too great on myself. I would try getting to know them first before I start anything serious, just to learn their habits and personality. I, myself am overweight . If something did spark between us, I may encourage dieting and exercise to have a healthy lifestyle. But I won't ever tell a guy, "Ummm.... you are not my "type" so I don't want to get to know you" (I hope people wouldn't be so harsh as to say that, but you get what I'm saying).0
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It may not be shallow to some, but if you lose weight the same guy will try to date you that turned you down when you was overweight! I personally think it shallow. because you can't relate weight to health in all cases, I you are only going to date people who are smaller you are going to miss out on the good things in life. And i do have preferences but not in people only good or bad one's is all that matter other things like teeth, weight can be fixed.
Yeah that'd be the shallow person. That would also be the person that, first sign of grey hair or a wrinkle, they'd be trolling for booty again. It's all fine and dandy if they think you're now attractive at a thinner weight but they need to remember they rejected you in the past and it looks rather stupid to shut the door in someone's face figuratively yet 6 or 12 months later be on your knees begging for a chance.0 -
What I find interesting is not the fact that most fit people are not attracted to others who are overweight, that seems consistent... You want to look good and have a nice body to play with and look at. However, the fact that many overweight people only like others who are thin or fit baffles my mind!!!
I have a dear friend who is, at least, 150 lbs overweight. She only dates very fit and muscular, 6 pack-touting men. She seems to be able to pick them up but none want a relationship with her. I think they're curious about having sex with a heavy-set woman and might find it fun for a bit, but don't want to make it a permanent part of their world. I hinted at the fact that more relationship prospects might open if she lost weight but she gets deeply offended. I just don't get it!0 -
Saying someone is not attractive because they are over weight is shallow, saying that you are not attracted to them is not. As someone else said, we are attracted to what we are attracted too.0
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If you are gay, and that's why you aren't attracted to a woman, that woman knows there is nothing they can do to attract you. So they walk away, thinking, "He rejected me because of something I can't help". There is no reason for them to beat themselves up. They can't change their gender, right?
However, if you reject them because they are fat, well... They CAN help that, in most cases. Your rejection of them because of their weight is a reminder to them that they are failing in some aspect of being attractive. They can take that much more personally and beat themselves up about it.
Hmm. Now I'm starting to get a clearer picture of where this whole shallow argument comes from. Though I don't agree with it, I'm starting to see why some women might feel that way.0 -
I suppose nobody can help the way they feel - but I don't see that it would be necessary to admit that it's someone's weight that puts you off; that could be hurtful. I would prefer the guy to use a more tactful excuse (even if it was a white lie!).
My husband openly admits that he finds me less attractive than when I was slimmer :frown: - we have quite a few arguments about it, and yes - I have accused him of being shallow sometimes! But I think it's slightly different when you're actually married, as opposed to meeting for the first time. I know some people may take my husband's side in this, but it does make me feel very resentful towards him on occasions. (I am always reading about other women whose partner's seem to tell them they are beautiful regardless of their size! Trust me not to have picked a man like that! :huh: )
Personally, I am quite attracted to guys who are a bit on the chunky side!
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I just think everyone is different.. It's not about being shallow. We like what we like.. For example, I tend to like skinny guys, although not too skinny. I still like some meat on their bones... but I'm also not into overly buff/muscular guys. Not sure why.. And I'm not trying to be picky by any means, but thats my preference. Though i've dated guys of all sizes.0
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I am not attracted to men or women who are overweight either and I don't think it's shallow.
I associate fatness with laziness and an unhealthy lifestyle. I'd rather my partner was fit and active.
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What I find interesting is not the fact that most fit people are not attracted to others who are overweight, that seems consistent... You want to look good and have a nice body to play with and look at. However, the fact that many overweight people only like others who are thin or fit baffles my mind!!!
I have a dear friend who is, at least, 150 lbs overweight. She only dates very fit and muscular, 6 pack-touting men. She seems to be able to pick them up but none want a relationship with her. I think they're curious about having sex with a heavy-set woman and might find it fun for a bit, but don't want to make it a permanent part of their world. I hinted at the fact that more relationship prospects might open if she lost weight but she gets deeply offended. I just don't get it!
You just reminded me of a woman I used to know. She herself wasn't that in shape, in fact I'd say she was overweight to some degree but she did work out. Her boyfriend, however, was massive. He was morbidly obese, going for 400lbs and she wanted him that way, she instigated his bad eating habits. The weird thing was she hated all other "fat" people and didn't find any of them attractive. Her celebrity crushes were guys with six packs yet she was in love with a man who was easily three of said crushes squished in one. I got into a debate over it once with her and all she could do was scream about fat people being ugly, disgusting, etc and that's why she was trying to be as thin as possible. When I brought up her boyfriend and his apparent weight she acted like it was normal and then admitted it was some fetish. Her logic boggled me but I suspected she wasn't altogether there in the head.0 -
I am personally attracted to women who have a little cushion if you will, rather than really skinny, model looking women. Nothing against women of all shapes and sizes, that's just what does it for me, so do not think that how you feel is shallow.
On a side note, being a geeky guy, I find it humorous when I hear women ranting about a man being shallow and all. It's kind of two faced when a woman gets all upset over a man being shallow but will not give a geeky guys the time of day before even attempting to get to know us. :P
Let's see, average, handsome jock who has always had it easy with the ladies versus a geeky guy who has to really work for anything in the social area including girlfriends. Which one do you think is gonna be more loyal to the woman who gives him a chance? :P0 -
As a biology student, I would argue it's purely in the interest of the continuation of genetic lines. Fitness is a huge biological determinant in choosing a mate, and that's not muscular fitness, but fitness as it relates to an individual's ability to both survive to reproductive age and produce the most offspring. Though we can override more basic instincts in choosing a mate (ie opting for someone who is heavier based on more cognizant attraction) this is still ingrained into our behavior, and manifests itself as sexual attraction. Obesity is not congruent with biological fitness, which may explain why you don't typically find huge amounts of people who are sexually attracted to obese people.0
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Maybe it's because of my personal experience but for me, the overweight thing puts me off because it's unhealthy and I don't want to get serious with someone who lives an unhealthy lifestyle; I'm worried I'll end up fearing for their life in ten years.0
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Well, homosexual is a biological trait, not a trait of mere 'preference'. You haven't learned to be attracted to men from glossy magazines, Photoshopped images and society's ideals of beauty. So I don't know that the comparison of rejection is really valid.
If you are gay, and that's why you aren't attracted to a woman, that woman knows there is nothing they can do to attract you. So they walk away, thinking, "He rejected me because of something I can't help". There is no reason for them to beat themselves up. They can't change their gender, right?
However, if you reject them because they are fat, well... They CAN help that, in most cases. Your rejection of them because of their weight is a reminder to them that they are failing in some aspect of being attractive. They can take that much more personally and beat themselves up about it.
In general, though.... I wouldn't say it's necessarily shallow to not be attracted to overweight people. To me, overweight signals that the person is not taking care of themselves and they do not lead the sort of life style that I want to lead, and we'd likely not be a good match. I'd be much more wary of them as a potential partner than someone fit.
Best point Anna! Than you. I would like to add that I am wary of super fit people as well... let's face it some Sunday mornings I would rather read posts and sip coffee then going on an adventure.0 -
I have to totally agree. A lot of people underestimate my weight by a lot -- often more than 20 pounds because of the way I carry it. I've had this my whole adult life, even when I was quite thin and fit. That's really dumb.I never thought he was shallow for not being attracted to bigger girls, but I did think he was a dumb a** for having a random number in his head like that.
Exactly -- I made him guess my weight (I was right around 150 -- where I was when we dated and where I still am now) he guessed 125-130 pounds and didn't believe me until I got on his scale. And then he was like "Oh *kitten*!" and apologized profusely.0 -
Its all about how the person reacts to it.
If some girl asks a guy out and he says no, sorry not interested but thank you.
That is one thing
If the girl asks the guy out and the guy says "No fat chicks"
Then you know... you are just a shallow douche.
VERY good point!!!0 -
I am not attracted to men or women who are overweight either and I don't think it's shallow.
I associate fatness with laziness and an unhealthy lifestyle. I'd rather my partner was fit and active.
I approve of Cas approving.
Also, let's consider this - if a man or woman who was clearly anorexic hit on you, how would you react? I don't mean skinny, I mean properly anorexic. I don't think it's about weight so much as it's about being healthy.0 -
You know what you like.
I think as long as you arent rejecting someone and actually saying to them no Im not attracted to you because...
Some like fit, thin, fat, muscular, glasses, blonde, brunette - we are all different0 -
Seems like the general consensus. I've never found overweight women attractive because of the health implications that go along with that and have taken criticism for it as I am overweight.
While I don't necessarily disagree, this is not always the case. I am overweight, yet medically I am in perfect health. Granted, that could change in the future, but you can say that about anyone of any size.0 -
Yeah, I fully support someone having their preferences, but the "if you're overweight, you're lazy, don't care or aren't healthy" is a bullsh*t excuse. I've known plenty of thin people who were lazy, didn't care and weren't healthy... because I've been one. And on the flip side, I've known plenty of bigger folks who were active, strong and healthy.0
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Likewise, I am in perfect health AT THE MOMENT, and that's the key. If I'm looking for a partner, I want them around for a long time and there's no denying that being overweight puts you at greater risk of chronic disease in later life. My BP is low, my BPM is also low. I am strong, can sprint without issue even carrying over 260lbs and have powerful lungs. But there's only so long your body can tolerate the stress of carrying unhealthy weight around.Seems like the general consensus. I've never found overweight women attractive because of the health implications that go along with that and have taken criticism for it as I am overweight.
While I don't necessarily disagree, this is not always the case. I am overweight, yet medically I am in perfect health. Granted, that could change in the future, but you can say that about anyone of any size.0 -
I don't think it is shallow. I understand not being attracted to heavier women. I'm not sure if I would be if I were a man either. All the women I think are hot have fit, tight bodies, so I can't imagine it would be different if I were a guy. Apart from the pure looks aspect, weight is a proxy, for good or bad, as to the lifestyle one lives. Being overweight or obese has certain stereotypes associated with them, and a healthy lifestyle certainly isn't one of them. For some men it may speak to a perceived difference in values related to health and self-worth. It may or may not be the case for a given individual, but that is what stereotypes are all about. It also speaks to perceived interests--if you are looking for someone to be with if you are an active individual, you may believe that someone who is overweight won't be able to keep up with you, or won't share your interests. Not being attracted to someone because their overweight is considered shallow, I think, because of the perception that the lack of attraction relies solely on stereotypes about overweight and obese people and making judgements about seemingly superficial characteristics without taking the whole person into account. My two cents.0
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Some guys are total *kitten* to girls that are heavy...those guys are shallow. You know the type, the guys that are very vocal about that preference etc. I agree though, a preference is just that..a preference...just don't be a prick about it...then you come across as a shallow *kitten*. There are plenty of guys that like heavy or 'thick' girls out there...and there are guys that will go with personality..the same goes for women. I personally prefer guys with a little meat on their bones...and I do not like the buff types..they seem to self obsessed IMO. To each is own LOL. Oh and FTR...women love gay men...I had a gay roommate in college and hung out with him and his friends a lot...best time of my life
. You can totally be yourself and it's all good. 0 -
Yeah, I fully support someone having their preferences, but the "if you're overweight, you're lazy, don't care or aren't healthy" is a bullsh*t excuse. I've known plenty of thin people who were lazy, didn't care and weren't healthy... because I've been one. And on the flip side, I've known plenty of bigger folks who were active, strong and healthy.
This. I hate when people think "Fat people are all lazy", because that's generally exactly what is placed upon overweight/obese people. What if that 180ib 'overweight' woman had come down from 290 'obese' woman? How do we have any way to know that this person is in bad health or is actually perfectly healthy? Short version - most people don't. Blaming it on health isn't relevant, we just say that so we can convince ourselves that we're not as judgmental as we really are.0 -
I think it's about ruling people out based on a principal. It's better to say I'm not attracted to THAT PERSON, not overweight people. Because who knows they could be attracted to an overweight woman they just haven't met yet. It's like me saying I'm not attracted to blond guys... I think it sounds shallow to rule someone out based on a feature. I never know who I'm going to be attracted to. They have all been very different looking.0
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I think it's all a preference thing. Some men like obese women, some like anorexic looking women, and then there is everything in between. I prefer something more in the middle honestly, probably on the thick side. This preference also changes with age (or maturity) as you quickly find out just because someone is attractive on the outside, doesn't mean they are a good person. I know the older I got the more personality came into the equation, but attractiveness still plays a part,0
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Not being attracted to overweight people is no more shallow than only being attracted to overweight people.0
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I think the difference is when you refuse to date someone that you might otherwise date BECAUSE they are overweight is shallow.
Totally.
I've experienced that situation first hand and knowing that you're lovable (or at least, that someone would love to date you) but won't, purely because of your weight and how that will reflect on their image can be crushing, especially if they handle it like a dingbat That said, it's still their right to think that way.
It's still very socially unacceptable to date 'fat'. It's baffling to me, also, that it seems more socially unacceptable for a thin/average guy to date a large lady than it is for a hefty guy to date a thin girl, but I guess it's still a man's world...
In any case, as long as people are respectful, and not dismissive of the entire person based solely on their weight (how much does that overweight-therefore-invisible thing drive you nuts?!), then everyone is entitled to their preferences. It takes all types, as they say 0 -
Too lazy to read other responses before I respond.
Just because you don't find someone attractive because they're overweight doesn't mean you're shallow. I don't find someone attractive if they have poor dental hygiene.. Does that make me shallow?
Short answer: No, not shallow.0 -
What's the problem? I don't like short men or fat men. I'm definitely not interested in someone with low professional expectations.
To me shallow is expecting to punch far above your weight or being ready to abandon a partner who's going through a temporary setback.0 -
I don't think this is shallow ! , we are all formed in different many ways and if it wasn't overweight it can be too thin , not an attractive face ( to you but somebody finds that face attractive) the list goes on ! I think the only time somebody is shallow is when they are rude to the person and do not reject them in a polite way.0
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