Paleo Diet!
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If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
Not a good idea with the name calling. Sensitive much that you have to call me names and I have NOT once called you or anyone a name. My name is not idiot and I don't accept treatment as such.
I am belittling no one. I am blunt and speaking the truth.
And I do enjoy the food I eat..............I just don't live to eat food. I have a GREAT BIG LIFE outside of eating and I enjoy those things.
Life is too short to sit around worrying about calorie counting and stuffing your face.
And for the record, my Dr has told me numerous times that he admires the fact that I was able to switch my eating and lifestyle and he no longer has to write prescriptions for me.
He said that the majority of his patients are so far in denial about their ADDICTIONS because they cry and whine about being on a so-called resticitive eating plan.
I find nothing restrictive about the way I eat and I enjoy every bite. Like I said before I don't live to eat.0 -
Has anyone here tried eating the way our caveman ancestors did? How did it go for you? Did you lose weight? Did you drink milk?
Here's an article for it:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/10/04/the-beginners-guide-to-the-paleo-diet/
Let me know what you guys think!:flowerforyou:
No...store was all out of mammoth and all they have are the new carrots and corn that people have been breeding for thousands of years. It was really hard to make a spear and I couldn't find many berry bushes. Plus I don't really know what's poisonous.
But if you're asking whether I eat low-glycemic foods and avoid legumes and grains, yea. I eat dairy too. Lost about 4% body fat in a couple months.0 -
It would be nice if you non Paleo/Primal peeps would take your personal little cat fight to private messages and leave this thread for giving helpful information to those interested in Paleo/Primal
I think it started when a paleo advocate suggested that others are addicted to grains.....
And you really don't have to read posts you don't like, even block people if you wish.
Yep, that's how it started. No one likes to be called names.
I just re-read all 5 pages and no one has called you any name, but you were the one that started the name calling by calling me an Idiot.0 -
Yep, that's how it started. No one likes to be called names.
I just re-read all 5 pages and no one has called you any name, but you were the one that started the name calling by calling me an Idiot.
You didn't dig very deep. The whole world got called "addict." I never would have commented in the first place if not for that fact. And yes, you are clearly an idiot if you believe that everyone but you is an addict. It's assanine and arrogant.
This forum is not for you to belittle people, call them names, and tell lies. Stop calling people names, and you won't get called a name. It's called the Golden Rule. Treat others how you wish to be treated. If you weren't so arrogant, you could stop and think for a moment.0 -
Yep, that's how it started. No one likes to be called names.
I just re-read all 5 pages and no one has called you any name, but you were the one that started the name calling by calling me an Idiot.
You didn't dig very deep. The whole world got called "addict." I never would have commented in the first place if not for that fact. And yes, you are clearly an idiot if you believe that everyone but you is an addict. It's assanine and arrogant.
This forum is not for you to belittle people, call them names, and tell lies. Stop calling people names, and you won't get called a name. It's called the Golden Rule. Treat others how you wish to be treated. If you weren't so arrogant, you could stop and think for a moment.
That is not calling someone a name............... Saying someone is an addict is NOT the same as calling someone an idiot.
No one called YOU an addict specifically. It was said in general terms and everyone that spoke on that said the same thing.
And, I am far from an idiot.
Not once have I or anyone else belitted you or anyone else..................but you sure belittled me by calling me an idiot.
GOOD GRIEF
Being truthful and blunt does not make me arrogant.
I do plenty of thinking and that is why I am in the position I am to eat the way I do and re-gain my health. I don't sit around counting calories and such. I just eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. With the foods I eat there is no need to count calories.
Not sitting around wondering when I can eat again because the last food I put in my mouth was not very nutritional at all and the body is just starving for nutrition in which people keep feeding it junk and that is addiction.0 -
If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
Not a good idea with the name calling. Sensitive much that you have to call me names and I have NOT once called you or anyone a name. My name is not idiot and I don't accept treatment as such.
I am belittling no one. I am blunt and speaking the truth.
And I do enjoy the food I eat..............I just don't live to eat food. I have a GREAT BIG LIFE outside of eating and I enjoy those things.
Life is too short to sit around worrying about calorie counting and stuffing your face.
And for the record, my Dr has told me numerous times that he admires the fact that I was able to switch my eating and lifestyle and he no longer has to write prescriptions for me.
He said that the majority of his patients are so far in denial about their ADDICTIONS because they cry and whine about being on a so-called resticitive eating plan.
I find nothing restrictive about the way I eat and I enjoy every bite. Like I said before I don't live to eat.
You are not speaking the truth. You are telling outright lies that are simply your opinion. If I have any addiction issues, other than nicotine, it's the inability to let people get away with lying. I have to call them out. Sorry if you the truth hurts.
I don't consider paleo "restrictive," so much as I consider it retarded. (my opinion) You are no different than a KKK member, pretending that somehow you are better than others because you make different choices in life. Or a Westboro Baptist member claiming that everyone who thinks differently is going to burn in hell. Please get off your high horse and realize that everyone has free will to make choices in life, including what we put in our own bodies. Your little word games with the definition of words serves no purpose other than to make you feel superior to others. If that's your head-trip, your "addiction," to feel smug and superior, then more power to ya, but don't sit around wondering why people don't like you.
Your statements serve to prove my point. There is no point in debating someone so blind, so I am through with you and this thread.0 -
If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
From what I am reading you are the only one upset and not having respect for others.0 -
If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
Oh yeah eating grass fed and pastured meats and eggs, getting plenty of fruits and vegetables and fat from natural sources where you are not eating any convenience, boxed, packaged, frozen stuff is retarded..........
There are a lot of people that would beg to differ.
And don't compare me to a KKK member as I have a husband that is a different race than me and I am far from that. You have more than offended me with you very degrading and belittling comments.
You are the only one ATTACKING in this thread.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
Not a good idea with the name calling. Sensitive much that you have to call me names and I have NOT once called you or anyone a name. My name is not idiot and I don't accept treatment as such.
I am belittling no one. I am blunt and speaking the truth.
And I do enjoy the food I eat..............I just don't live to eat food. I have a GREAT BIG LIFE outside of eating and I enjoy those things.
Life is too short to sit around worrying about calorie counting and stuffing your face.
And for the record, my Dr has told me numerous times that he admires the fact that I was able to switch my eating and lifestyle and he no longer has to write prescriptions for me.
He said that the majority of his patients are so far in denial about their ADDICTIONS because they cry and whine about being on a so-called resticitive eating plan.
I find nothing restrictive about the way I eat and I enjoy every bite. Like I said before I don't live to eat.
You are not speaking the truth. You are telling outright lies that are simply your opinion. If I have any addiction issues, other than nicotine, it's the inability to let people get away with lying. I have to call them out. Sorry if you the truth hurts.
I don't consider paleo "restrictive," so much as I consider it retarded. (my opinion) You are no different than a KKK member, pretending that somehow you are better than others because you make different choices in life. Or a Westboro Baptist member claiming that everyone who thinks differently is going to burn in hell. Please get off your high horse and realize that everyone has free will to make choices in life, including what we put in our own bodies. Your little word games with the definition of words serves no purpose other than to make you feel superior to others. If that's your head-trip, your "addiction," to feel smug and superior, then more power to ya, but don't sit around wondering why people don't like you.
Your statements serve to prove my point. There is no point in debating someone so blind, so I am through with you and this thread.
If you have no addiction issues..........
Then give up bread for 30 days.
Eat only FATS, Proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
30 DAYS...............If you are not willing or able to give it a go for 30 days, then yes in deed there are addiction issues.
I have plenty of friends on here, in real life and all over the place. I have no issues with people not liking me.
MOST people appreciate the TRUTH being told to them and not sugar coat things so they feel good about themselves.
Sometimes the truth must hurt for people to take a look at themselves to make changes from within.,0 -
I'm just going to leave this right here.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-food-addiction0 -
From what I am reading you are the only one upset and not having respect for others.
Second that.
While I am here (even though I decided I wasn't going to post in this thread anymore...) I would just like to say that PaleoPath4Lyf, you have explained yourself very well. I wouldn't give this woman the time of day as she has obviously made it well aware she is only here to be hostile, judgmental, and critical of others. She obviously knows everything, so there is no point in you sharing your wisdom with her... I have enjoyed reading your responses, PP4L, keep up and keep on!
(I will no longer be posting in this thread as it is obviously a trolled waste of time.)0 -
If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
Not a good idea with the name calling. Sensitive much that you have to call me names and I have NOT once called you or anyone a name. My name is not idiot and I don't accept treatment as such.
I am belittling no one. I am blunt and speaking the truth.
And I do enjoy the food I eat..............I just don't live to eat food. I have a GREAT BIG LIFE outside of eating and I enjoy those things.
Life is too short to sit around worrying about calorie counting and stuffing your face.
And for the record, my Dr has told me numerous times that he admires the fact that I was able to switch my eating and lifestyle and he no longer has to write prescriptions for me.
He said that the majority of his patients are so far in denial about their ADDICTIONS because they cry and whine about being on a so-called resticitive eating plan.
I find nothing restrictive about the way I eat and I enjoy every bite. Like I said before I don't live to eat.
You are not speaking the truth. You are telling outright lies that are simply your opinion. If I have any addiction issues, other than nicotine, it's the inability to let people get away with lying. I have to call them out. Sorry if you the truth hurts.
I don't consider paleo "restrictive," so much as I consider it retarded. (my opinion) You are no different than a KKK member, pretending that somehow you are better than others because you make different choices in life. Or a Westboro Baptist member claiming that everyone who thinks differently is going to burn in hell. Please get off your high horse and realize that everyone has free will to make choices in life, including what we put in our own bodies. Your little word games with the definition of words serves no purpose other than to make you feel superior to others. If that's your head-trip, your "addiction," to feel smug and superior, then more power to ya, but don't sit around wondering why people don't like you.
Your statements serve to prove my point. There is no point in debating someone so blind, so I am through with you and this thread.
WOW, so the Metabolic endocrinologist is lying when he says the people that whine and cry about having to limit or give up certain foods to be HEALTHY.
I also guess my Naturopathic M.D and Chiropractor are also lying when they said that anyone that eats the Standard American Diet (SAD) has food addiction issues.
I guess they are all lying???????????? And 2 of these people are very well versed in nutrition.0 -
If for a fact (which you said) that eating natural whole foods is too restrictive for you, then there are DEFINITELY some addiction issues there.
And you are DEFINITELY an idiot! You have no clue what it means to be addicted. If I enjoy peanuts as an occasional snack, that doesn't mean I have psychological problems. You are belittling true addicts when you make assanine statements like that.
It's unfortunate that you don't enjoy your Capt Caveman diet. I am enjoying my diet. It's too bad that some people confuse enjoyment with destruction. :smokin:
It's just too bad that a few people can't have respect for others around here. :yawn:
Not a good idea with the name calling. Sensitive much that you have to call me names and I have NOT once called you or anyone a name. My name is not idiot and I don't accept treatment as such.
I am belittling no one. I am blunt and speaking the truth.
And I do enjoy the food I eat..............I just don't live to eat food. I have a GREAT BIG LIFE outside of eating and I enjoy those things.
Life is too short to sit around worrying about calorie counting and stuffing your face.
And for the record, my Dr has told me numerous times that he admires the fact that I was able to switch my eating and lifestyle and he no longer has to write prescriptions for me.
He said that the majority of his patients are so far in denial about their ADDICTIONS because they cry and whine about being on a so-called resticitive eating plan.
I find nothing restrictive about the way I eat and I enjoy every bite. Like I said before I don't live to eat.
You are not speaking the truth. You are telling outright lies that are simply your opinion. If I have any addiction issues, other than nicotine, it's the inability to let people get away with lying. I have to call them out. Sorry if you the truth hurts.
I don't consider paleo "restrictive," so much as I consider it retarded. (my opinion) You are no different than a KKK member, pretending that somehow you are better than others because you make different choices in life. Or a Westboro Baptist member claiming that everyone who thinks differently is going to burn in hell. Please get off your high horse and realize that everyone has free will to make choices in life, including what we put in our own bodies. Your little word games with the definition of words serves no purpose other than to make you feel superior to others. If that's your head-trip, your "addiction," to feel smug and superior, then more power to ya, but don't sit around wondering why people don't like you.
Your statements serve to prove my point. There is no point in debating someone so blind, so I am through with you and this thread.
I also guess my Naturopathic M.D and Chiropractor are also lying when they said that anyone that eats the Standard American Diet (SAD) has food addiction issues.
Nonsensical statements coming from a naturopath? I'm shocked0 -
http://www.disorders.org/orthorexia-nervosa/I'm just going to leave this right here.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-food-addiction0 -
I also guess my Naturopathic M.D and Chiropractor are also lying when they said that anyone that eats the Standard American Diet (SAD) has food addiction issues.
I guess they are all lying???????????? And 2 of these people are very well versed in nutrition.
I'm sorry, but how exactly how is a chiropractor well versed in nutrition? His specialty is in the bones and muscles in the back.0 -
If you have no addiction issues..........
Then give up bread for 30 days.
Eat only FATS, Proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
30 DAYS...............If you are not willing or able to give it a go for 30 days, then yes in deed there are addiction issues.
Good grief! This is silly. Just because someone chooses not to participate in another's experiment is not proof of an addiction.
I would refuse to go barefoot for 30 days. That doesn't make me addicted to shoes.0 -
I've been following Paleo since April of last year and it has worked out well for me. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.0
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From what I am reading you are the only one upset and not having respect for others.
Second that.
While I am here (even though I decided I wasn't going to post in this thread anymore...) I would just like to say that PaleoPath4Lyf, you have explained yourself very well. I wouldn't give this woman the time of day as she has obviously made it well aware she is only here to be hostile, judgmental, and critical of others. She obviously knows everything, so there is no point in you sharing your wisdom with her... I have enjoyed reading your responses, PP4L, keep up and keep on!
(I will no longer be posting in this thread as it is obviously a trolled waste of time.)
Fortunately, I believe that anyone who has actually read this thread from the beginning understands the real issue here. And unfortunately, I finally resorted to putting her on ignore yesterday. While we can all have our differences in opinions and interpretation of facts, there is a certain level of discourse that is necessary to have a real honest discussion. I finally reached the point where it was obvious to me that it was not there.
And for those who re-read through this entire ordeal, note that I did not distinguish between physiological and psychological addiction. Certain people in this discussion have treated one type of addiction as not a "real" addiction. I believe the literature clearly acknowledges that both are a type of *real* addiction. That said, I do not know which type an addiction to (or dependence on) grains is. But from my perspective, it wasn't relevant to the discussion, at least where it was when I first referred to it as an addiction.
(And for the record, I am a former smoker myself, having given up the seven year habit a couple of decades ago. And there were a number of similarities to me in stopping smoking that I also experienced when I first stopped eating grains. Odd coincidence? Maybe. Relevant to the discussion of what is and isn't an addiction? Certainly not...but apparently others believe that it is.)0 -
If you have no addiction issues..........
Then give up bread for 30 days.
Eat only FATS, Proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
30 DAYS...............If you are not willing or able to give it a go for 30 days, then yes in deed there are addiction issues.
Good grief! This is silly. Just because someone chooses not to participate in another's experiment is not proof of an addiction.
I would refuse to go barefoot for 30 days. That doesn't make me addicted to shoes.
I absolutely agree with this. You expect someone to sacrifice a well-balanced diet for the sake of proving you wrong. Nah... not worth my energy.
Oh and the 'food addiction' thing is just retarded. I am a recovering drug addict. There is a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain when you abuse substances. That same chemical reaction can occur with food, but not nearly as intensely. Our bodies require food. Whether you are paleo, vegetarian, keto, or cutting any other specific food item out of your diet, if you are not especially careful you can create nutritional defeciencies that will disrupt weight loss and health in the long run. I'm not even really convinced that you can avoid those deficiencies, but what you do with your body is your choice. But refusing to take an extreme measure that could cause deficiencies has absolutely NOTHING to do with food addiction. The closest anyone comes to an addiction with food are binge eaters.0 -
If you have no addiction issues..........
Then give up bread for 30 days.
Eat only FATS, Proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
30 DAYS...............If you are not willing or able to give it a go for 30 days, then yes in deed there are addiction issues.
Good grief! This is silly. Just because someone chooses not to participate in another's experiment is not proof of an addiction.
I would refuse to go barefoot for 30 days. That doesn't make me addicted to shoes.
Oh and the 'food addiction' thing is just retarded. I am a recovering drug addict. There is a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain when you abuse substances. That same chemical reaction can occur with food, but not nearly as intensely. Our bodies require food. Whether you are paleo, vegetarian, keto, or cutting any other specific food item out of your diet, if you are not especially careful you can create nutritional defeciencies that will disrupt weight loss and health in the long run. I'm not even really convinced that you can avoid those deficiencies, but what you do with your body is your choice. But refusing to take an extreme measure that could cause deficiencies has absolutely NOTHING to do with food addiction. The closest anyone comes to an addiction with food are binge eaters.
::Patiently awaits the mice, sugar is addictive as cocaine study/articles::0 -
::Patiently awaits the mice, sugar is addictive as cocaine study/articles::
Since you asked :laugh:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-02/news/31276928_1_high-fructose-corn-syrup-sugar-consumption-table-sugar
http://www.chron.com/life/article/Sugars-might-be-just-as-addictive-as-cocaine-3480956.php
I deliver!0 -
If you have no addiction issues..........
Then give up bread for 30 days.
Eat only FATS, Proteins and carbs from fruits and vegetables.
30 DAYS...............If you are not willing or able to give it a go for 30 days, then yes in deed there are addiction issues.
Good grief! This is silly. Just because someone chooses not to participate in another's experiment is not proof of an addiction.
I would refuse to go barefoot for 30 days. That doesn't make me addicted to shoes.
I absolutely agree with this. You expect someone to sacrifice a well-balanced diet for the sake of proving you wrong. Nah... not worth my energy.
Oh and the 'food addiction' thing is just retarded. I am a recovering drug addict. There is a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain when you abuse substances. That same chemical reaction can occur with food, but not nearly as intensely. Our bodies require food. Whether you are paleo, vegetarian, keto, or cutting any other specific food item out of your diet, if you are not especially careful you can create nutritional defeciencies that will disrupt weight loss and health in the long run. I'm not even really convinced that you can avoid those deficiencies, but what you do with your body is your choice. But refusing to take an extreme measure that could cause deficiencies has absolutely NOTHING to do with food addiction. The closest anyone comes to an addiction with food are binge eaters.
I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains. (But to be honest, I believe that is a true statement of *all* carbohydrates.) I will be surprised if my upcoming annual blood panel indicates any areas of deficiency. And I will be absolutely astounded if the solution to any of those deficiencies is consuming more grains. I believe my health has been substantially improved by eliminating grains. I believe the account of many others who have experienced what could best be described as a full healing from various afflictions and general improved well-being is sincere.
Nothing personal, but whether or not you or anyone else decide to follow this approach, it really doesn't bother me. When I share with others that they may want to consider eliminating certain types of foods (such as grains and legumes), I do it just to present a possible solution to their problems. If they try it and it works for them, great. If they don't try it but continue to have issues that *might* be remedied by trying it, I'll SMH but then I'll go back to trying to help those who are willing to consider it. My goal is not to convert everyone to paleo/primal. I am not trying to eliminate all bagels and doughnuts from the world.
As for the well-beaten addiction topic, the literature seems very clear to me. Individual interpretations of distinctions and nuances notwithstanding, it would appear that the scientific community has embraced that addiction to certain foods is very real. That you acknowledge "but not nearly as intensely", you seem to be on the side of the argument that says that it can be an actual addiction. At the very least, that an intense desire not to give up certain non-essential foods for a period of time to determine if they are in fact causing the problems, while not evidence by itself of an actual addiction, seems to support the possibility of an addiction (or at least does not contradict the possibility).0 -
I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains.
Protein is an essential nutrient isn't it?0 -
I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains.
Protein is an essential nutrient isn't it?
Good catch. What I should have said is something like, "I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains that are not more easily/better obtained from other sources." Said another way, I am not aware of such a thing as a "grain deficiency" in humans.
In my opinion, the "heart healthy grains" mantra is not backed by good science. (I'll let the conspiracy theorists run with possible reasons for it.)0 -
Hi jofjtncb6! I've read through this thread and scrolled through your diary (just to see a sample Paleo diet) for the past week and was curious about your butter consumption. I noticed on a few days that you eat 3 tablespoons of butter straight up for breakfast (there were also some supplements and coffee listed, but I'm assuming you don't put butter in your coffee(?)I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains.
Protein is an essential nutrient isn't it?
Good catch. What I should have said is something like, "I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains that are not more easily/better obtained from other sources." Said another way, I am not aware of such a thing as a "grain deficiency" in humans.
In my opinion, the "heart healthy grains" mantra is not backed by good science. (I'll let the conspiracy theorists run with possible reasons for it.)
I've never heard of eating plain butter before. Is this a Paleo thing? Or did I read it wrong? Just curious.
Disclaimer: I'm not a Paleo/Primal eater but I have absolutely no problem with those that follow the Paleo/Primal diet.0 -
Hi jofjtncb6! I've read through this thread and scrolled through your diary (just to see a sample Paleo diet) for the past week and was curious about your butter consumption. I noticed on a few days that you eat 3 tablespoons of butter straight up for breakfast (there were also some supplements and coffee listed, but I'm assuming you don't put butter in your coffee(?)
I've never heard of eating plain butter before. Is this a Paleo thing? Or did I read it wrong? Just curious.
Disclaimer: I'm not a Paleo/Primal eater but I have absolutely no problem with those that follow the Paleo/Primal diet.
As JofJ predicted... I couldn't stay away. But I am staying on topic from here on. Butter is one of those things Paleo eaters are pretty lose on, and lets face it, it is helpful to make Paleo or Primal your own so it is a manageable lifestyle. The Paleo view on butter in that it should be clarified butter, essentially removing the harmful dairy properties from the butter, or at least form a properly milked cow (of which there are few to none in the commercialized butter industry). You can buy clarified butter at certain markets and there are a few (very few) brands out there. I personally buy Ghee. I am honestly not huge on using it and prefer to make my own, but the option is there!
As for JofJ I can't say what his butter usage entails, but that is a brief rundown of Paleo and butter.0 -
Hi jofjtncb6! I've read through this thread and scrolled through your diary (just to see a sample Paleo diet) for the past week and was curious about your butter consumption. I noticed on a few days that you eat 3 tablespoons of butter straight up for breakfast (there were also some supplements and coffee listed, but I'm assuming you don't put butter in your coffee(?)I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains.
Protein is an essential nutrient isn't it?
Good catch. What I should have said is something like, "I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains that are not more easily/better obtained from other sources." Said another way, I am not aware of such a thing as a "grain deficiency" in humans.
In my opinion, the "heart healthy grains" mantra is not backed by good science. (I'll let the conspiracy theorists run with possible reasons for it.)
I've never heard of eating plain butter before. Is this a Paleo thing? Or did I read it wrong? Just curious.
Disclaimer: I'm not a Paleo/Primal eater but I have absolutely no problem with those that follow the Paleo/Primal diet.
That isn't just a few days, that's most days. And I actually *do* put it in my coffee. I blend ~3T of kerrygold butter and a couple T of MCT oil into the coffee. I don't know how common it is, but I know I'm not the only one. Others also use coconut oil.
I'm actually looking for calorie dense foods as I am now trying to add some lean mass (having initially lost the 30 pounds I first wanted to lose.
(...but the other supplements, shhh...don't tell my paleo brethren. Those aren't exactly "paleo". Vit D is because I'm indoors most days and suspect I may be deficient (but will learn for certain when tested in a few months). Creatine is probably unnecessary given my red meat consumption, but it's cheap and ridiculously thoroughly tested so why not?)0 -
Hi jofjtncb6! I've read through this thread and scrolled through your diary (just to see a sample Paleo diet) for the past week and was curious about your butter consumption. I noticed on a few days that you eat 3 tablespoons of butter straight up for breakfast (there were also some supplements and coffee listed, but I'm assuming you don't put butter in your coffee(?)
I've never heard of eating plain butter before. Is this a Paleo thing? Or did I read it wrong? Just curious.
Disclaimer: I'm not a Paleo/Primal eater but I have absolutely no problem with those that follow the Paleo/Primal diet.
As JofJ predicted... I couldn't stay away. But I am staying on topic from here on. Butter is one of those things Paleo eaters are pretty lose on, and lets face it, it is helpful to make Paleo or Primal your own so it is a manageable lifestyle. The Paleo view on butter in that it should be clarified butter, essentially removing the harmful dairy properties from the butter, or at least form a properly milked cow (of which there are few to none in the commercialized butter industry). You can buy clarified butter at certain markets and there are a few (very few) brands out there. I personally buy Ghee. I am honestly not huge on using it and prefer to make my own, but the option is there!
As for JofJ I can't say what his butter usage entails, but that is a brief rundown of Paleo and butter.
Thanks for that info!
But I was really more interested in the plain butter consumption without any accompaniment (meat, veggies, etc.) I mean does the Paleo diet advocate just sitting down to a plate with a stick of butter on it and nothing else? What does that do for you nutrition-wise? I just never heard of that.0 -
Hi jofjtncb6! I've read through this thread and scrolled through your diary (just to see a sample Paleo diet) for the past week and was curious about your butter consumption. I noticed on a few days that you eat 3 tablespoons of butter straight up for breakfast (there were also some supplements and coffee listed, but I'm assuming you don't put butter in your coffee(?)I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains.
Protein is an essential nutrient isn't it?
Good catch. What I should have said is something like, "I am aware of *no* essential nutrients derived from grains that are not more easily/better obtained from other sources." Said another way, I am not aware of such a thing as a "grain deficiency" in humans.
In my opinion, the "heart healthy grains" mantra is not backed by good science. (I'll let the conspiracy theorists run with possible reasons for it.)
I've never heard of eating plain butter before. Is this a Paleo thing? Or did I read it wrong? Just curious.
Disclaimer: I'm not a Paleo/Primal eater but I have absolutely no problem with those that follow the Paleo/Primal diet.
That isn't just a few days, that's most days. And I actually *do* put it in my coffee. I blend ~3T of kerrygold butter and a couple T of MCT oil into the coffee. I don't know how common it is, but I know I'm not the only one. Others also use coconut oil.
I'm actually looking for calorie dense foods as I am now trying to add some lean mass (having initially lost the 30 pounds I first wanted to lose.
(...but the other supplements, shhh...don't tell my paleo brethren. Those aren't exactly "paleo". Vit D is because I'm indoors most days and suspect I may be deficient (but will learn for certain when tested in a few months). Creatine is probably unnecessary given my red meat consumption, but it's cheap and ridiculously thoroughly tested so why not?)
Oh -- okay. Thanks for that info! I was just wondering if you ate plain butter straight up (I don't think I could ever do that :-)0 -
Has anyone here tried eating the way our caveman ancestors did? How did it go for you? Did you lose weight? Did you drink milk?
Here's an article for it:
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/10/04/the-beginners-guide-to-the-paleo-diet/
Let me know what you guys think!:flowerforyou:
Hey RachFace, (the original poster), I have been following the Primal Blueprint since March '12. It's going good. I've lost about 10 pounds. I don't drink cow's milk, but I do eat a little cheese and plain yogurt. I am a sugar addict. Sugars in my diet inflame certain tissues in my body. I thought I was experiencing "normal aging"; gaining weight and aches and pains. When I went Primal, all those symptoms went away. I had a chance to test this as I went on vacation last week and indulged in sugary drinks and desserts, and the inflammation in my body came right back. I'm feeling a lot better this week after getting back on track.
That Nerdfitness blog you linked is good. That's where I started. In fact, I learned of it from another MFPer. Nerdfitness hooked me up with Mark's Daily Apple. I like the way he explains this lifestyle. I like to think of it as just eating "real" food.0 -
Thank you to those that have stayed on topic (: you really helped me out!0
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