NO BULLIES ALLOWED!!!
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MFP is one big argument half of the time...lol
NO IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!
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Perhaps I have a slightly different point of view because I've not been as heavy as some people here, but is eating pizza once really poisonous behaviour? Seems a bit extreme maybe? Wouldn't the advice at that point be to pick yourself up, not give up, forget about the one meal of pizza, and hope you maintain that week? Sorry if I'm missing something.0
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First of all... when I say bully I mean just that... not someone who disagrees with me...hey I am a big girl and I can take a few punches. I am not so sensitive that someone telling me I am wrong is going to make me run for the hills so those of you who seem to think I can't handle a little conflict and healthy debate are simply mis-guided. I have participated in discussions with people who's opinions were vastly different from mine and it was interesting and fun and above all else RESPECTFUL! No one left feeling like they had been talked down on or patronized or made fun of or not taken seriously.
I am talking about the people on the forums who actually intentionally harass other people, they are degrading and intimidating and just down right rude. Someone made a comment that if some of these conversations happened face to face they would be a lot different and I totally agree. I have had some things said to me that I would dare a person to say to me in my face and I know they wouldn't because they wouldn't have the guts. People get on these forums and they use them as a way to vent their anger and frustration on complete strangers.
It doesn't matter why you use MFP the point is at the end of the day we are all humans and if you wouldn't have the guts to say to my face what you write in your posts then keep it to yourself. Just because I am a stranger does not give people the right to overlook common human decency and respect.
I know that if I toss a question out on the internet I am liable to get all kinds of responses... some useful... some not so much... I never expect to get answers from only people who agree with my opinions in fact, I encourage people who challenge my point of view... but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
Finally, for anyone to say that my feeling like there are bullies on this site is a reflection of my own insecurities is grossly mis-informed. Like I said, I am a big girl (literally but getting smaller everyday
) and no one can make me feel inferior without my consent. I don't let BULLIES get under my skin... because I know that at the end of the day they are usually the ones struggling with feelings of insecurity and self-loathing. 0 -
but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half. 0 -
but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.
Being insulted, offended, etc is a state of mind. It can show you how tightly you cling to beliefs. It should be a wake up call that you may need to have a looser though process. We are all moving about on a giant rock ball that spins at ridiculous speeds while orbiting a ball of gasses that omits heat in order to facilitate life. There are things a little bigger than MFP responses out there. You tell me something you think is a "fact" and I'll show you someone or something that refutes it.
"life is just a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves"0 -
but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.
^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.0 -
Opinions are like assho|es - Everyone has one, and we all think our own is the best.
Coolest part? You don't have to listen to the opinions of people who have done amazing things with their weight loss, strength gains, and feats of badassery if you don't want to.
Never heard the end of that quote before, have to remember that mine is the best use this quote often! : )0 -
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MFP is one big argument half of the time...lol
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true that!0 -
wow someone thinks like me:) I've seen a lot of this on the forums too as well as people being mean to those with eating disorders calling to ban them when they are seeking help being really nasty.0
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I agree. People are way too judgmental. It's all about finding what works best for you.0
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I agree. I made a stupid joke saying a user liked me because I was pretty and I was attacked a couple users who said I was delusional and shallow. Granted the joke wasn't funny but still, that stings a little.
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I think you should all savor the flavor...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/360696-if-you-re-a-fan-of-crockpot-cheeseburgers0 -
Well put. Feel free to add me.0
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You can't stop it, at the end of the day if you make progress it's obviously a good way.
The internet can bring out the worst in people.0 -
I think you should all savor the flavor...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/360696-if-you-re-a-fan-of-crockpot-cheeseburgers
Sounds fattening and wonderful. Granted my brother would eat most of it so I should be okay... :P0 -
If you don't want to hear other people's points of view, don't ask questions on an internet forum. Simple enough.0
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Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!
I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.
Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.
There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.
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MFP is one big argument half of the time...lol
And it's fun to watch
ha ha.... agreed....some ppl are just too sensitive
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Most of the bullies are people who have reached their goals already and use MFP as a constant ego boost. So, I avoid those people and their posts, and I have friends on my page who are nice, caring, thin, fat, etc. Overall, they are just good people. They don't tell me what I want to hear, but they don't bash me either. So, it works for me. Use your friend's list for motivation, use the forums for entertainment and foolery.0
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Not sure I want to get involved in this, but the irony of it is driving me crazy. OP rants about "bullies", when she herself had a thread locked down for being hostile and aggressive towards people trying to answer a question she posed. Wow.0
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Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!
I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.
Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.
There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.
yea i got ripped out pretty bad for standing up to what i thought was pretty judgemental/bullying last night and this morning, it made me really uncomfortable because it seemed a lot of people of a certain type were ganging up against another and it is horrible.
the person whose post i can see as i type this below says" most of the bullies are people who have reached their goals already and use mfp as a constant ego boost" i hate to say it but those were the people ganging up, and the ring leader was a not so pleasent physical trainer. i just wish people would stop being mean and judgemental in a place where we are clearly here to change ourselves for the better and celebrate our succeses0 -
Bump and TKS FOR SHARING....I agree ! Good luck on your healthier and fitter lifestyle change. Sorry you have been bullied:)
The forums can be brutal.0 -
By the way, there is a method that works for everyone. It's called burning more calories than you consume.
Exactly. Plain and simple. It's just a matter of actually DOING that--that's the hard part.0 -
It's 8 AM, this Hell I'm in
Seems I've crossed the line again
For being nothing more than who I am
So break my bones and throw your stones
We all know that life ain't fair
But there is more of us, we're everywhere
We don't have to take this, back against the wall
We don't have to take this, we can end it all
All you'll ever be is a fading memory of a bully
Make another joke while they hang another rope, so lonely
Push them to the dirt till the words don't hurt
Can you hear me?
No one's gonna cry on the very day you die
You're a bully
Think it through, you can't undo
Whenever I see black and blue
I feel the past, I share the bruise
With everyone who's come and gone
My head is clear, my voice is strong, now I'm right here to right the wrong
We don't have to take this, back against the wall
We don't have to take this, we can end it all
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/shinedown/bully.html ]
All you'll ever be is a fading memory of a bully
Make another joke while they hang another rope, so lonely
Push them to the dirt till the words don't hurt
Can you hear me?
No one's gonna cry on the very day you die
You're a bully
(Solo)
It's 8 AM, the Hell I'm in!
Your voice is strong, now right the wrong!
All you'll ever be is a fading memory of a bully
Make another joke while they hang another rope, so lonely
Push them to the dirt till the words don't hurt
Can you hear me?
No one's gonna cry on the very day you die
You're a bully
All you'll ever be is a fading memory of a bully
Make another joke while they hang another rope, so lonely
Push them to the dirt till the words don't hurt
Can you hear me?
No one's gonna cry on the very day you die
You're a bully
We don't have to take this, back against the wall
We don't have to take this, we can end it all (x4)
More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/shinedown/#share0 -
By the way, there is a method that works for everyone. It's called burning more calories than you consume.
That's the one I'm trying to do and I think, from what I've read, so are most of the people on mfp.0 -
but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.
^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.
i generally agree with you, BUT please tell me how someone expressing an opinion or belief different to yours hampers your rights?
and no one is entitled respect. respect is generally earned. yes it's nice when people are default respectful, but there's no rule saying that they HAVE to be.
also the treat people the way you like idea gets thrown around too much because it assumes that everyone thinks the same way. for instance i'm pretty thick skinned, i'm also very logical. i tend to appreciate when people disagree with me because sometimes it helps highlight any flaws in my thought process. i think about what they've said and decide if what they are saying has some degree of correctness. if it does then thanks. if it doesnt then i throw it out. no big deal.
compare that to someone else who's more emotional, less confrontational and doesnt like to be challenged then there's obviously going to be a disconnect between me treating them how i like to be treated and them treating me how i like to be treated. they are going to find me brash, blunt and rude and i'm going to find them illogical and unfocused.
i personally think it's best to stick to the rule of thumb of not asking opinions in an open forum unless you're willing to hear something you dont want to hear.
also it takes 2 to tango. almost everytime i see someone be accused of bullying behavior on this site, i see that people who are supposedly standing up for the weak (still not sure how to define weak on an internet forum made up of adults) are simply trying to out bully the bully :laugh:0 -
Icon of a shirtless greased up buff guy in a mirror, telling me I am going to hell for drinking a bottle of diet lipton tea.
I have a room full of ice and diet lipton tea....mmmmm....0 -
Grrr. Who let you out of your locker???
Was I not supposed to?
No. Get back in there.
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but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.
^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.
i generally agree with you, BUT please tell me how someone expressing an opinion or belief different to yours hampers your rights?
and no one is entitled respect. respect is generally earned. yes it's nice when people are default respectful, but there's no rule saying that they HAVE to be.
also the treat people the way you like idea gets thrown around too much because it assumes that everyone thinks the same way. for instance i'm pretty thick skinned, i'm also very logical. i tend to appreciate when people disagree with me because sometimes it helps highlight any flaws in my thought process. i think about what they've said and decide if what they are saying has some degree of correctness. if it does then thanks. if it doesnt then i throw it out. no big deal.
compare that to someone else who's more emotional, less confrontational and doesnt like to be challenged then there's obviously going to be a disconnect between me treating them how i like to be treated and them treating me how i like to be treated. they are going to find me brash, blunt and rude and i'm going to find them illogical and unfocused.
i personally think it's best to stick to the rule of thumb of not asking opinions in an open forum unless you're willing to hear something you dont want to hear.
also it takes 2 to tango. almost everytime i see someone be accused of bullying behavior on this site, i see that people who are supposedly standing up for the weak (still not sure how to define weak on an internet forum made up of adults) are simply trying to out bully the bully :laugh:
^^ You said exactly what I was thinking, but much better!! :flowerforyou:0 -
but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.
unfortunately yes.
Not being attacked for your stand on something
Not being insulted
Not being offended
These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.
Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.
^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.
i generally agree with you, BUT please tell me how someone expressing an opinion or belief different to yours hampers your rights?
and no one is entitled respect. respect is generally earned. yes it's nice when people are default respectful, but there's no rule saying that they HAVE to be.
also the treat people the way you like idea gets thrown around too much because it assumes that everyone thinks the same way. for instance i'm pretty thick skinned, i'm also very logical. i tend to appreciate when people disagree with me because sometimes it helps highlight any flaws in my thought process. i think about what they've said and decide if what they are saying has some degree of correctness. if it does then thanks. if it doesnt then i throw it out. no big deal.
compare that to someone else who's more emotional, less confrontational and doesnt like to be challenged then there's obviously going to be a disconnect between me treating them how i like to be treated and them treating me how i like to be treated. they are going to find me brash, blunt and rude and i'm going to find them illogical and unfocused.
i personally think it's best to stick to the rule of thumb of not asking opinions in an open forum unless you're willing to hear something you dont want to hear.
also it takes 2 to tango. almost everytime i see someone be accused of bullying behavior on this site, i see that people who are supposedly standing up for the weak (still not sure how to define weak on an internet forum made up of adults) are simply trying to out bully the bully :laugh:
^^ You said exactly what I was thinking, but much better!! :flowerforyou:
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