NO BULLIES ALLOWED!!!

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  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    Not sure I want to get involved in this, but the irony of it is driving me crazy. OP rants about "bullies", when she herself had a thread locked down for being hostile and aggressive towards people trying to answer a question she posed. Wow.

    ^^^ my thread was locked not because I was being hostile but because I asked for certain people to answer my question... which is against MFP's posting guidelines.... so please if you are going to make accusations get the facts right....
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.

    unfortunately yes.

    Not being attacked for your stand on something
    Not being insulted
    Not being offended

    These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.

    Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.

    :)

    ^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.

    i generally agree with you, BUT please tell me how someone expressing an opinion or belief different to yours hampers your rights?

    and no one is entitled respect. respect is generally earned. yes it's nice when people are default respectful, but there's no rule saying that they HAVE to be.

    also the treat people the way you like idea gets thrown around too much because it assumes that everyone thinks the same way. for instance i'm pretty thick skinned, i'm also very logical. i tend to appreciate when people disagree with me because sometimes it helps highlight any flaws in my thought process. i think about what they've said and decide if what they are saying has some degree of correctness. if it does then thanks. if it doesnt then i throw it out. no big deal.

    compare that to someone else who's more emotional, less confrontational and doesnt like to be challenged then there's obviously going to be a disconnect between me treating them how i like to be treated and them treating me how i like to be treated. they are going to find me brash, blunt and rude and i'm going to find them illogical and unfocused.

    i personally think it's best to stick to the rule of thumb of not asking opinions in an open forum unless you're willing to hear something you dont want to hear.

    also it takes 2 to tango. almost everytime i see someone be accused of bullying behavior on this site, i see that people who are supposedly standing up for the weak (still not sure how to define weak on an internet forum made up of adults) are simply trying to out bully the bully :laugh:

    I never said that someone expressing an opinion that's different from mine somehow imposes on my rights or is in any way disrespectful. I can handle disagreement... I encourage it.... and I agree with you.... take from it what you can and leave the rest behind.

    You also make an excellent point.... my idea of respect may be vastly different from the next person's and I can appreciate that; however, if someone outright says.... thanks but no thanks for your input.... that isn't even respected on these forums. Some people are just rude and heartless and keep pushing their ideologies down other people's throats.

    I know these are public forums and there are a lot of different people with different ideas... that's actually the great part about MFP... you can pull from such a large pool of people.... but the bad part is that there are people on here who are bullies...PLAIN AND SIMPLE.... I am not talking about the people who don't agree with the OP or anyone else's post on threads....

    People are really quick to say.... disagreement does not equal bullying.... tell me something I don't know....
    Bullying = Bullying
    There seems to be a sort of tolerance for bullying from a lot of people.... they have the idea that it comes with the territory and you just have to roll with the punches... why?
    I know there is not much I can do as one person on MFP but if more people took a stand against bullying instead of tolerating it....maybe MFP could be a place where people could share ideas and stories without the fear of being ridiculed or harassed.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    cite real examples of bullying on MFP.
  • cubizzle
    cubizzle Posts: 900 Member
    cite real examples of bullying on MFP.

    BULLY!!!!
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    cite real examples of bullying on MFP.

    BULLY!!!!

    FML!

    Please, would you mind citing some real examples of bullying on MFP?
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!

    I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.

    Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.

    There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.

    This is just another form of bullying. You're trying to make everyone else cater to the way YOU want it. Some people genuinely come from a place of knowledge with the intent on truly helping others. THAT is what this is supposed to be about. Not a bunch of people claiming that there is no "right" way. There are plenty of right ways, but not choosing a right way is the same as choosing a wrong way, and encouraging others or enabling others to do the same is crazy. Just because some people can't accept hard truths doesn't make those handing out said truths bullies.

    Oh stop.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!

    I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.

    Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.

    There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.

    Unfortunately, I see this on the Weight Watchers forums too. Certain people believe their way is the only way and also believe that they know what is healthy and what is not. They feel the need to press their opinion upon everyone else, and generally they then become offended when someone asks for support or tells them they are wrong. It's something you have to deal with on dieting websites. Dieters become obsessed.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member

    Unfortunately, I see this on the Weight Watchers forums too. Certain people believe their way is the only way and also believe that they know what is healthy and what is not. They feel the need to press their opinion upon everyone else, and generally they then become offended when someone asks for support or tells them they are wrong. It's something you have to deal with on dieting websites. Dieters become obsessed.

    ^^ This is what the OP is doing... telling everyone that HER way to behave on a forum is the RIGHT way and everyone else is either wrong and a bully or wrong but respectful.
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    I watched a woman get torn to shreds on a thread recently because she said she wanted to give up after only losing a pound a week. I know that's healthy weight loss, but she felt she wasn't making enough progress. Some of the posts on this thread were really brutal... people were making fun of her and belittling her struggle. Even if you know what someone is thinking may not be the best way of thinking.... that doesn't give anyone the right to do what they did to that OP. Instead of making fun.... offer some encouraging words or don't say anything at all... it's that simple.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I watched a woman get torn to shreds on a thread recently because she said she wanted to give up after only losing a pound a week. I know that's healthy weight loss, but she felt she wasn't making enough progress. Some of the posts on this thread were really brutal... people were making fun of her and belittling her struggle. Even if you know what someone is thinking may not be the best way of thinking.... that doesn't give anyone the right to do what they did to that OP. Instead of making fun.... offer some encouraging words or don't say anything at all... it's that simple.

    That's awful and was handled incorrectly- but unfortunately it is not bullying.

    Bullying is something you cannot get away from. It is consistent and continual aggressive harassment in a place where you cannot avoid it- such as school or the workplace.

    In a forum, where you can turn off the computer or close the program and go handle something else or exercise or play outside, report the user so they can banish them (happens on the daily), block them from emailing you, put them on ignore so you NEVER see their posts again, or simply change your profile to 'friends only' viewing... there are so many ways to avoid the ugly posters. Thus no one can bully you without your express permission to continue doing so.

    Because we live in a world where we cannot force all people to act according to the same standards, we can at least be thankful that there are SO many options for making it seem like they dont exist :)
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62

    Unfortunately, I see this on the Weight Watchers forums too. Certain people believe their way is the only way and also believe that they know what is healthy and what is not. They feel the need to press their opinion upon everyone else, and generally they then become offended when someone asks for support or tells them they are wrong. It's something you have to deal with on dieting websites. Dieters become obsessed.

    ^^ This is what the OP is doing... telling everyone that HER way to behave on a forum is the RIGHT way and everyone else is either wrong and a bully or wrong but respectful.

    What the OP is doing is bringing attention to a subject that bothers me... nothing more.... if you take offense to my view on bullying.... that's your right.... if you think there is no bullying problem on MFP.... that's your right.... if you want to be a bully on MFP... that's your right.... I am not telling people what to do.... this is a discussion about how I feel... people can do what they want and they will... nothing in this post will change that.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member

    Unfortunately, I see this on the Weight Watchers forums too. Certain people believe their way is the only way and also believe that they know what is healthy and what is not. They feel the need to press their opinion upon everyone else, and generally they then become offended when someone asks for support or tells them they are wrong. It's something you have to deal with on dieting websites. Dieters become obsessed.

    ^^ This is what the OP is doing... telling everyone that HER way to behave on a forum is the RIGHT way and everyone else is either wrong and a bully or wrong but respectful.

    The OP started her own thread to ask people not to be a bully. You don't have to click on the thread. It's not the same as when someone posts that something isn't working and they get attacked. YOU are PURPOSELY misinterpreting the OP's statements so you can make some vague point about her being a bully instead of you.
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    I watched a woman get torn to shreds on a thread recently because she said she wanted to give up after only losing a pound a week. I know that's healthy weight loss, but she felt she wasn't making enough progress. Some of the posts on this thread were really brutal... people were making fun of her and belittling her struggle. Even if you know what someone is thinking may not be the best way of thinking.... that doesn't give anyone the right to do what they did to that OP. Instead of making fun.... offer some encouraging words or don't say anything at all... it's that simple.
    Because we live in a world where we cannot force all people to act according to the same standards, we can at least be thankful that there are SO many options for making it seem like they dont exist :)

    ^^^^^^ this... once again proves my point that there is a tolerance for bullying...

    first of all... there are many types of bullying and you described only one.... the OP who posted about not losing weight fast enough was ridiculed and mocked for her feelings... that's bullying.

    Secondly.... why should people have to go through so much trouble to make bullying seem like it doesn't exist. Hiding from it won't make it go away...
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member

    Unfortunately, I see this on the Weight Watchers forums too. Certain people believe their way is the only way and also believe that they know what is healthy and what is not. They feel the need to press their opinion upon everyone else, and generally they then become offended when someone asks for support or tells them they are wrong. It's something you have to deal with on dieting websites. Dieters become obsessed.

    ^^ This is what the OP is doing... telling everyone that HER way to behave on a forum is the RIGHT way and everyone else is either wrong and a bully or wrong but respectful.

    The OP started her own thread to ask people not to be a bully. You don't have to click on the thread. It's not the same as when someone posts that something isn't working and they get attacked. YOU are PURPOSELY misinterpreting the OP's statements so you can make some vague point about her being a bully instead of you.

    No, Im sorry, that's your perception. I have been trying to debate and reason and post thought-out responses to everything. Please show me where I am posting mean pictures, emailing her, encouraging other people to troll her, calling names or being hateful. please show me where I am doing anything other than speaking on this topic.

    I have an opinion as well, and there is a button that says Reply, so I am talking about it.

    I feel as though the OP's sense of the word "bully" is lacking. I think she is referring to 'rude people' not 'bullies'. There is a very big difference.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    ok im done being reasonable in a case of hive-mentality built by victims.

    Enjoy living your life on the forever-offended thin-skinned bus.
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    I feel as though the OP's sense of the word "bully" is lacking. I think she is referring to 'rude people' not 'bullies'. There is a very big difference.

    Maybe your sense of the word bully needs to be expanded...
  • MrDude_1
    MrDude_1 Posts: 2,510 Member
    WOW.
    A lot of you must be new to the internet.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    I watched a woman get torn to shreds on a thread recently because she said she wanted to give up after only losing a pound a week. I know that's healthy weight loss, but she felt she wasn't making enough progress. Some of the posts on this thread were really brutal... people were making fun of her and belittling her struggle. Even if you know what someone is thinking may not be the best way of thinking.... that doesn't give anyone the right to do what they did to that OP. Instead of making fun.... offer some encouraging words or don't say anything at all... it's that simple.

    That's awful and was handled incorrectly- but unfortunately it is not bullying.

    Bullying is something you cannot get away from. It is consistent and continual aggressive harassment in a place where you cannot avoid it- such as school or the workplace.

    In a forum, where you can turn off the computer or close the program and go handle something else or exercise or play outside, report the user so they can banish them (happens on the daily), block them from emailing you, put them on ignore so you NEVER see their posts again, or simply change your profile to 'friends only' viewing... there are so many ways to avoid the ugly posters. Thus no one can bully you without your express permission to continue doing so.

    Because we live in a world where we cannot force all people to act according to the same standards, we can at least be thankful that there are SO many options for making it seem like they dont exist :)

    reposted
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    I feel as though the OP's sense of the word "bully" is lacking. I think she is referring to 'rude people' not 'bullies'. There is a very big difference.

    Maybe your sense of the word bully needs to be expanded...
    I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.

    I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.

    Why are you trying to force Yoovie to change her definition of bully? Hmmm? Why are you trying to make us choose "your road" of defining what a bully is and what a bully is not?? It comes off as "shoving your opinion down everyone's throat", frankly. But that is just my opinion, so I guess you will have to respect that....
    people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right.
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    Why are you trying to force Yoovie to change her definition of bully? Hmmm? Why are you trying to make us choose "your road" of defining what a bully is and what a bully is not?? It comes off as "shoving your opinion down everyone's throat", frankly. But that is just my opinion, so I guess you will have to respect that....

    you would be right if I had told her to change her definition of bullying... I suggested that maybe she should expand her definition of the word.... there are many forms of bullying.... I never said she should definitely believe that my definition is the only one.... I have not even given the definition of the word bully for this reason... and never not once did I say everyone should think like me or take my opinions as laws.... I am stating my stance on something.... I don't need anyone to agree with me.... I agree with myself.... therefore.... am I really shoving my opinions on anyone? Furthermore.... I would be shoving my opinions down other people's throats if this were not my post... but seeing how it is my post, anyone who chooses to read it has essentially seeked out my opinion. If it didn't matter you wouldn't have even opened the thread.... just saying....
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    Why are you trying to force Yoovie to change her definition of bully? Hmmm? Why are you trying to make us choose "your road" of defining what a bully is and what a bully is not?? It comes off as "shoving your opinion down everyone's throat", frankly. But that is just my opinion, so I guess you will have to respect that....


    you would be right if I had told her to change her definition of bullying... I suggested that maybe she should expand her definition of the word.... there are many forms of bullying.... I never said she should definitely believe that my definition is the only one.... I have not even given the definition of the word bully for this reason... and never not once did I say everyone should think like me or take my opinions as laws.... I am stating my stance on something.... I don't need anyone to agree with me.... I agree with myself.... therefore.... am I really shoving my opinions on anyone? Furthermore.... I would be shoving my opinions down other people's throats if this were not my post... but seeing how it is my post, anyone who chooses to read it have essentially seeked out my opinion. If it didn't matter you wouldn't have even opened the thread.... just saying....

    Oh, I'm sorry, that is just my opinion that, according to how you seem to be describing bullying, you are doing the very same thing. Just stating my stance.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    but is it too much to ask that I am not attacked or insulted? I certainly don't think so.

    unfortunately yes.

    Not being attacked for your stand on something
    Not being insulted
    Not being offended

    These are not your human or civil rights. Unfortunately, many people believe that these things are illegal. But they simply are not. It is our responsibility to teach ourselves (and those we are responsible for) how to cope with these interactions.

    Happy and good people and things arent the only inhabitants of this planet.... you must be able to handle the other half.

    :)

    ^^^^^^this... is what's wrong with the world today... people think it's too much to ask that we simply respect each other. Not being attacked or insulted by complete strangers for your opinions should be considered a human or civil right. This attitude of tolerance for rudeness is outrageous... just because you have the freedom to say something doesn't make it right. I am a firm believer in the argument that your rights end where mine begin. I feel I have a right to be respected simply because I am a human. You don't have to like me or the things I say, do or believe, but you can at least respect me enough to treat me no differently from how you would like to be treated.

    i generally agree with you, BUT please tell me how someone expressing an opinion or belief different to yours hampers your rights?

    and no one is entitled respect. respect is generally earned. yes it's nice when people are default respectful, but there's no rule saying that they HAVE to be.

    also the treat people the way you like idea gets thrown around too much because it assumes that everyone thinks the same way. for instance i'm pretty thick skinned, i'm also very logical. i tend to appreciate when people disagree with me because sometimes it helps highlight any flaws in my thought process. i think about what they've said and decide if what they are saying has some degree of correctness. if it does then thanks. if it doesnt then i throw it out. no big deal.

    compare that to someone else who's more emotional, less confrontational and doesnt like to be challenged then there's obviously going to be a disconnect between me treating them how i like to be treated and them treating me how i like to be treated. they are going to find me brash, blunt and rude and i'm going to find them illogical and unfocused.

    i personally think it's best to stick to the rule of thumb of not asking opinions in an open forum unless you're willing to hear something you dont want to hear.

    also it takes 2 to tango. almost everytime i see someone be accused of bullying behavior on this site, i see that people who are supposedly standing up for the weak (still not sure how to define weak on an internet forum made up of adults) are simply trying to out bully the bully :laugh:

    I never said that someone expressing an opinion that's different from mine somehow imposes on my rights or is in any way disrespectful. I can handle disagreement... I encourage it.... and I agree with you.... take from it what you can and leave the rest behind.

    You also make an excellent point.... my idea of respect may be vastly different from the next person's and I can appreciate that; however, if someone outright says.... thanks but no thanks for your input.... that isn't even respected on these forums. Some people are just rude and heartless and keep pushing their ideologies down other people's throats.

    I know these are public forums and there are a lot of different people with different ideas... that's actually the great part about MFP... you can pull from such a large pool of people.... but the bad part is that there are people on here who are bullies...PLAIN AND SIMPLE.... I am not talking about the people who don't agree with the OP or anyone else's post on threads....

    People are really quick to say.... disagreement does not equal bullying.... tell me something I don't know....
    Bullying = Bullying
    There seems to be a sort of tolerance for bullying from a lot of people.... they have the idea that it comes with the territory and you just have to roll with the punches... why?
    I know there is not much I can do as one person on MFP but if more people took a stand against bullying instead of tolerating it....maybe MFP could be a place where people could share ideas and stories without the fear of being ridiculed or harassed.
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    i dont think people tolerate bullying. i think we just have different ideas of what bullying is. i personally dont consider some stranger on an internet forum trying to convince me to eat a certain way or workout a certain way as being bullying. i can skip their posts or put them on my ignore list. real bullying you cant do that.


    unless this person is following you from thread to thread, group to group saying the same things and getting a group of others together to do the same thing, then it's not bullying . as far as being ridicules i dont understand how that works on an anonymous internet board where we're all strangers using screen names. is your livelihood being affected? the way your friends offline see you? then how is it ridicule. interwebz are NOT real life

    i think some of the people who dont want to exercise the scroll buttons or the ignore user options are either just being lazy or just want to be confronted with stuff they know will upset them.

    although i do agree that in some cases there are some out of line comments made in some of the threads. i dint see the most recent thread where someone was feeling unmotivated about the lack of progress they were seeing, but i have seen others like that where a FEW of the posters were like "get over yourself already" or "fine go ahead and quit" but the vast majority were more supportive. i've also seen threads where the OP gets 30 responses 1 is negative and the rest are positive but then they focus on the negative one and ask "why did i even bother posting?"

    i always wonder why some people focus on the negative stuff when it's such a small factor in the overall responses? it's no wonder that negative things happen to people in negative frames of mind since that's what they are expecting to see and focusing on seeing. why should other people be held responsible for that persons negativity? why cant the negative person be the boss of their own emotions (because after all, their emotions and emotional well being should be THEIR responsibility, right?) and not expect other people to work it out for them?

    i agree with others in this thread that have mentioned the phrase "victim mentality"... if you believe yourself to be a victim then that's how life is going to treat you. when i come across real bullying i dont tolerate it, but i also refuse to cater to someone's emotional need to be a victim. if you want to be a victim then that's your right, it shouldnt be up to me to play captain save a ho

    Edited to try and fix the quote thing
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    Why are you trying to force Yoovie to change her definition of bully? Hmmm? Why are you trying to make us choose "your road" of defining what a bully is and what a bully is not?? It comes off as "shoving your opinion down everyone's throat", frankly. But that is just my opinion, so I guess you will have to respect that....


    you would be right if I had told her to change her definition of bullying... I suggested that maybe she should expand her definition of the word.... there are many forms of bullying.... I never said she should definitely believe that my definition is the only one.... I have not even given the definition of the word bully for this reason... and never not once did I say everyone should think like me or take my opinions as laws.... I am stating my stance on something.... I don't need anyone to agree with me.... I agree with myself.... therefore.... am I really shoving my opinions on anyone? Furthermore.... I would be shoving my opinions down other people's throats if this were not my post... but seeing how it is my post, anyone who chooses to read it have essentially seeked out my opinion. If it didn't matter you wouldn't have even opened the thread.... just saying....

    Oh, I'm sorry, that is just my opinion that, according to how you seem to be describing bullying, you are doing the very same thing. Just stating my stance.

    Thanks for stating your stance.... hope it made you feel awesome... your input is really appreciated... have a great and wonderful day :happy:
  • ali_b83
    ali_b83 Posts: 324 Member
    Not sure I want to get involved in this, but the irony of it is driving me crazy. OP rants about "bullies", when she herself had a thread locked down for being hostile and aggressive towards people trying to answer a question she posed. Wow.

    ^^^ my thread was locked not because I was being hostile but because I asked for certain people to answer my question... which is against MFP's posting guidelines.... so please if you are going to make accusations get the facts right....

    I read that thread, so spare me please.

    From that thread:
    Sorry folks,

    I'm going to lock this thread for several reasons.

    First, of course, is the fact that it's become personal in MANY posts, and that's the primary guideline of the forums: you can debate a topic, but almost from the starting gate this thread included personal judgements and insults. Quite frankly, too many to try to clear up at the moment, so I'm going to put this to rest.

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  • Jebbster007
    Jebbster007 Posts: 265 Member
    Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!

    I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.

    Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.

    There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.

    You mean you only had the bullies force their opinions down your throat on weight loss issues?? Count yourself lucky. I started reading a thread on political correctness that devolved into bashing Christianity and Chick-Fil-A restaurants because they don't support gay marriage. This is the general forums sweets. Put on the combat helmet, the flak jacket, climb into the foxhole and take your chances. Because it's a war zone out there. Personally on a weight loss site, I think all topics EXCEPT those about fitness, weight loss and health should be relegated to individual groups but (gulp) that's just my opinion....LOL. (grabs fire extinguisher)
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    Not sure I want to get involved in this, but the irony of it is driving me crazy. OP rants about "bullies", when she herself had a thread locked down for being hostile and aggressive towards people trying to answer a question she posed. Wow.

    ^^^ my thread was locked not because I was being hostile but because I asked for certain people to answer my question... which is against MFP's posting guidelines.... so please if you are going to make accusations get the facts right....

    I read that thread, so spare me please.

    From that thread:
    Sorry folks,

    I'm going to lock this thread for several reasons.

    First, of course, is the fact that it's become personal in MANY posts, and that's the primary guideline of the forums: you can debate a topic, but almost from the starting gate this thread included personal judgements and insults. Quite frankly, too many to try to clear up at the moment, so I'm going to put this to rest.

    QUOTE:


    1. No Attacks or Insults and No Reciprocation

    a) Do not attack, mock, or otherwise insult others. You can respectfully disagree with the message or topic, but you cannot attack the messenger. This includes attacks against the user’s spelling or command of written English, or belittling a user for posting a duplicate topic.
    b) If you are attacked by another user, and you reciprocate, you will also be subject to the same consequences. Defending yourself or a friend is not an excuse! Do not take matters into your own hands – instead, use the Report Post link to report an attack and we will be happy to handle the situation for you.


    Secondly, we have a guideline against public forum topics that request input only from some members. This is as much relevant to asking for input only from those who've taken a particular medication as it is asking for input only from member of certain religions.

    QUOTE:

    15. Divisive Topics Are Better Suited For Groups, Not the Main Forums

    Divisive topics, particularly those that seek input from or are relevant only to a select group of users, are better placed within an appropriate Group rather than the Main Forums. For example, topics relevant to only one religion should not be placed on the main forums but rather within a group related to that religion. We reserve the right to move any topic to a relevant public Group which interested members may join if they wish to continue to participate.


    Thanks,
    Steven
    MyFitnessPal Staff

    I don't know if we were reading the same thread because it clearly states in the "evidence" that you just posted that the thread was shut down because the topic was devisive since I had asked for only certain people to respond to it. I later got an e-mail from the moderator re-iterating the fact that I can't post devisive subjects.
    Furthermore, I was not hostile on the thread. I was wrong for asking that only people with personal experiences respond, but I was never rude or mean about it. I knew the topic I posted was controversial and I knew what type of people it would attrack so I was hoping to avoid that by posting a very specific question.
  • tgbyfield
    tgbyfield Posts: 62
    Okay I don't rant alot but this has really been bothering me.... so here goes!

    I joined MFP as a way to track my calories and meet a few like minded people who share my struggles. I did not join MFP to hear the opinions of people who think their way of doing things is the only right way and every other way it worthless. We are all supposed to be adults here. Whenever I go on the forums I try to refrain from commenting on a lot of posts because I have been ripped to shreds and I have seen other people ripped to shreds.

    Listen, just because one method of weight loss works for you doesn't mean it will work for everybody. If you think taking protein shakes and lifting weights 4 hours a day is the way to go... more power to you. If you think a strict vegan diet and yoga is the magic formula then by all means, have at it. Whatever your method or philosopy, understand that that is what works for you and your lifestyle. These forums are supposed to be for support and motivation and sometimes I feel like there are a lot of BULLIES on here, who try to shove their opinions down everyone's throat.

    There are many roads that lead to weight loss and we are all on our own journeys, I think there should be more of a focus on sharing our struggles, frustrations, triumphs, success, helpful tips...etc, than trying to force someone to choose your road.

    You mean you only had the bullies force their opinions down your throat on weight loss issues?? Count yourself lucky. I started reading a thread on political correctness that devolved into bashing Christianity and Chick-Fil-A restaurants because they don't support gay marriage. This is the general forums sweets. Put on the combat helmet, the flak jacket, climb into the foxhole and take your chances. Because it's a war zone out there. Personally on a weight loss site, I think all topics EXCEPT those about fitness, weight loss and health should be relegated to individual groups but (gulp) that's just my opinion....LOL. (grabs fire extinguisher)

    ^^^ this is hilarious...