I absolutely HATE dieting/exercise...
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Sounds like you want a magic pill.
So, blunt but realistic. Suck it up already. Or don't. Lose weight and be more fit. Or don't. It's your life. Is the cheeseball worth how crappy you feel and potential medical problems or not? How about a cheeseball once and while or a bunch whenever you feel like it? Why do you feel like it? Maybe you need to think about the root of your weight issue. I mean that genuinely. If you fill a void with food, you will keep wanting too until you figure out why. I read "Women, Food and God" by Geneen Roth ...which, I didn't think was very well written, but it did get my brain moving in the right direction.
You know what else you'll probably hate? Feeling overweight and unhealthy. I know I didn't like it.
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Let me be blunt. I don't want to do pills or fad diets. Don't assume. I feel like being healthier YES. If I didn't, I wouldn't force myself to do something I hate 5 flipping days a week.Oh and please don't push your religion on me, I'm talking health not joining a cult.
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:laugh: Sorry if it came across that way. I'm glad you aren't interested in fads or pills.
The main point is - it's about choices. That's all. It seems like you are defeating yourself before you've had much time to get started. I agree with some others that the best thing you could do is try to find a way to look at these changes as positive.
All I was doing was recommending a book that helped me figure out what was at the root of my eating. If you don't have a use for it, fine. I'm an atheist...so hilarious on the cult comment. Also, I'm not a health nut...but thank you!
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UsedToBeHusky: I did see your comment and thank you. I'm just increasingly frustrated with these comments bashing me. How can anyone come on this website and feel intimidated by someone else, if we are all on here for the same reason. Why do people who seem to have their diet/exercise in check have to make those of us who don't feel dumb or lesser than them??!
That's a good question. Everyone thinks that they have the right answers. Everyone thinks that anyone doing something different is doing it wrong. In my experience, you won't stick with this if it makes you unhappy. Taking control of your body is 90% diet, 10% exercise, but it is 100% mental. You have to find a balance between the mind and the body. Some people would rather fight the good fight against their mind, and they carry that fight mentality into this experience (and probably other parts of their lives as well). This site is meant for support, but for everyone, that word has as many different meanings as the term 'lifestyle change'. Kill 'em with kindness (as mom used to say) and try to get whatever benefit you can get from their comments and just ignore the negativity.0 -
You have to start eating more calories, 500 is not going to do it. I look at dieting & exercise as a life style change, as with me too, I have health issues that demand I do something about it. I eat about a 1000 calories a day, feel good about my self, have started walking every morning before work and kids are up. It makes me feel great. And I can see the difference in my attuide and my energy level. There are so many different "exercises" and food choice's out there. Just have to find the one that fits you. Hang in there!!!0
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I'm not gonna lie - I bribe myself to eat right. We have a carefully planned rewards programme, and I get to buy cool stuff on the weekend (non-edible OR very healthy - but something that I can't usually afford) but ONLY if I was good all week.
Totally works!
'Cos I agree, its bloody hard and often just plain unpleasant!0 -
You have to start eating more calories, 500 is not going to do it. I look at dieting & exercise as a life style change, as with me too, I have health issues that demand I do something about it. I eat about a 1000 calories a day, feel good about my self, have started walking every morning before work and kids are up. It makes me feel great. And I can see the difference in my attuide and my energy level. There are so many different "exercises" and food choice's out there. Just have to find the one that fits you. Hang in there!!!
I eat the recommended amount on MFP. I just try to subtract 500 from that and my that my goal between what I eat and my exercise.0 -
i think of it as mind over matter. If you tell yourself enough times that you are EXCITED to work out or happy you dont want that junk in your system, enough times...you will start to believe it. And when that doesn't work for me , I go to Dr. Oz's website and read the risks of obesity and scare myself so I actually do eat straight and workout regularly.0
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I was under the impression that "clean" eating was eating things as close to their natural state as possible. I know I haven't been super strict about it. But believe me I'm eating MUCH MUCH MUCH healthier than my usual meat/potato breakfast/lunch/dinner. Yes, It's something I need to work on. But again I'm new to this...
I'm new to this.
I am NEW to this people.
Just ignore the rude posts. You DO NOT have to eat raw or unprocessed foods to be healthy. There are plenty of healthy processed foods. You just need to read the labels carefully when buying processed foods, whereas fresh vegetables speak for themselves. Seriously, some people just make staying healthy way harder than it needs to be.
ETA: I took a glance at the last few days of your diary and it didn't look bad. It's not a "clean" diet, but it did not look unhealthy. Except maybe for the Lime-a-rita. Those tasty little things are killers! (but I have them occasionally too) :drinker:
The Lime-a-ritas were pressure from my BF parents! I don't drink often. They do...0 -
Am I the only person who constantly feels like this is a punishment? The feeling that I've lost that freedom to eat my beloved fried cheese balls and ranch, or a nice steak? I leave work every day and go work out. Yes, I've just started like a little over a week ago, working out again. I have heard the "you'll feel different when you see results". But this isn't my first go at this. I feel like I leave my job, to go to another job (lifting/cardio). Only to reap no rewards of foods I once enjoyed because I need to be eating clean. I have my reasons for doing this - my health, my very supportive boyfriend. But everything just sucks when 4pm rolls around and I'm actually dreading leaving work because I have to go exercise. Yes I know I should find something I really enjoy. I live in a very rural area. It's at least an hour to civilization. My options are limited.
I just can't help but to feel like I can't be the only one that doesn't truly enjoy this. But I'll keep doing it alone if I have to...
Highly doubt you are the only person that feels this way... or at least does when they start out. The first thing you should realize is that it is NOT a punishment and you are not relegated to certain foods if you want to be successful. There are healthier recipes out there for your fried cheese balls (bake?) and ranch dressing.. Steak is not something you shouldn't eat either.
What you should focus on is moderation and definately look into some healthy recipes for things you love. The more you tell yourself know the more likely you are to "cheat" and binge on foods that aren't great for you and then you're back to square one and most likely feel guilty and yell at yourself for having fallen off the wagon/failed. I've discovered a love of cooking I never thought I'd have (hate doing dishes!).
In terms of motivating yourself at the gym.... if you don't like Curves why pay for it? You can invest in some low weight dumbells (5-8) and do bodyweight exercises at home - you do not have to join a gym to lose weight; particularly if you find yourself not going because you are alone and don't want to, etc.
Find things that you don't mind doing that get your heartrate up and go from there. Google is your friend if you're looking for exercises to change up your routine and keep you from getting bored. Definitely use these forums too... or bodybuilding.com (I use this a lot for nutrition information, new exercise moves, etc.)
Good luck!
Just an FYI.... when you put your goals into MFP it subtracts that 500 (or whatever it is for you) calorie deficit from your BMR and provides you the TOTAL calories for consumption each day. You do NOT subtract 500 from what MFP tells you your TOTAL is for the day. If your total is 1200 then that means your BMR is 1700 (what you would eat to maintain body function in a coma). When you input an activity (running, walking, etc.) it ADDS calories onto your TOTAL for the day because you're already at a deficit.
You should NOT be eating less than 1200 calories.0 -
I have added bicycling to my routine. I can spend a long time on the bike and it is still fun. An hour at the gym and I have had enough. You need to find the right exercise for you.0
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Buy a bike :-))
YES ! Great for rural locations.0 -
I hate when people say at least you don't have walk/hunt for your food. REALLY?! Does that in any way relate to the ease of getting all the really bad for you things? Fast food the healthier the more expensive! Vending machines filled with chips (my biggest weakness-salty things).
Sure at least it's not forever-ago-BC and I'm a hunter and gatherer, because being in my twenties in Midwest America I can really grasp that concept.
By all means be blunt but be realistic!
I do have Netflix. I do try to do the Yoga/Pilates stuff. But without someone there to watch my form, I'm afraid I'm not actually doing it right.
I have Kettlebells & Jillian Michaels.
You don't have FITNESS CLASSES at your gym? Weird.
I go to Curves. I do not have a gym membership because from past experience there are rude jerks there that make comments like "just getting around to your New Year's resolution"? Or "hey how about you run to McDonald's and let us get our real workouts in". So NO I don't have "Fitness Classes" I have circuit weight training. Yeah... really weird...
That's terrible. No one should say those things! Have you tried a locally owned ladies gym. I find I feel most at home in a small gym with other women, and generally they are all at about the same fitness level as me. The one i attend even has Zumba classes and personal trainers (all women)... you might could ask around for reccomendations.0 -
if I thought I could never have an icecream cone again I dont think I could do this you have to have what you love there wouldnt be much point to life otherwise I really hated running with a vengence all my life 3 months ago I started back at the gym I had gone to 168 lbs at 5 foot 2 thats way too heavy I started running for 20 secs and it was killing me but I kept trying then I got to a minute felt I achieved something now I can run for 20 minutes I would never have thought I could it now I still dont like running and I never will but Ill do it because I can and I never thought I could Im at 144lbs now with this feeling I can stop now Ive done ok and this is where Ive fallen down all my life so its a continuous journey but it has to be doable no point in killing yourself at something you hate find what you do and keep it up0
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I'm from a really small town area. So I joined Curves as a jumping off point. I need to build strength. Get an understanding of my muscles and be supervised. They offered all of that. So I am grateful for what I'm getting from it. I am just not thrilled with the fact I have to do it.
Part of my problem is I am a smoker. But I have noticed the more I exercise, the less I smoke. Big plus. Especially to get to running.
However, I have joint issues. I'm not sure if it's due to being out of shape (I'm sure at least part of it). Or if it's something related to the fact I don't do much dairy. So even when I go on walks, my hips hurt so bad for days. I don't mean overnight and into the next day, I mean almost a weeks worth of pain.
So I'm hoping by working out at Curves I'm reversing whatever harm I've done and can regain the ability to do those more leisure like exercises from home, like walking/running real distances.0 -
Sounds like you want a magic pill.
So, blunt but realistic. Suck it up already. Or don't. Lose weight and be more fit. Or don't. It's your life. Is the cheeseball worth how crappy you feel and potential medical problems or not? How about a cheeseball once and while or a bunch whenever you feel like it? Why do you feel like it? Maybe you need to think about the root of your weight issue. I mean that genuinely. If you fill a void with food, you will keep wanting too until you figure out why. I read "Women, Food and God" by Geneen Roth ...which, I didn't think was very well written, but it did get my brain moving in the right direction.
You know what else you'll probably hate? Feeling overweight and unhealthy. I know I didn't like it.
Let me be blunt. I don't want to do pills or fad diets. Don't assume. I feel like being healthier YES. If I didn't, I wouldn't force myself to do something I hate 5 flipping days a week.Oh and please don't push your religion on me, I'm talking health not joining a cult.
I know they were being rude, and you got defensive... but the comment about "joining a cult" can be offensive to even the nice people offering helpful advice... I don't get why you'd say that and alienate people that may be willing to give you helpful advice.0 -
You gotta HATE being fat/overweight more than you hate correct diet/exercise.
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Sounds like you want a magic pill.
So, blunt but realistic. Suck it up already. Or don't. Lose weight and be more fit. Or don't. It's your life. Is the cheeseball worth how crappy you feel and potential medical problems or not? How about a cheeseball once and while or a bunch whenever you feel like it? Why do you feel like it? Maybe you need to think about the root of your weight issue. I mean that genuinely. If you fill a void with food, you will keep wanting too until you figure out why. I read "Women, Food and God" by Geneen Roth ...which, I didn't think was very well written, but it did get my brain moving in the right direction.
You know what else you'll probably hate? Feeling overweight and unhealthy. I know I didn't like it.
Let me be blunt. I don't want to do pills or fad diets. Don't assume. I feel like being healthier YES. If I didn't, I wouldn't force myself to do something I hate 5 flipping days a week.Oh and please don't push your religion on me, I'm talking health not joining a cult.
I know they were being rude, and you got defensive... but the comment about "joining a cult" can be offensive to even the nice people offering helpful advice... I don't get why you'd say that and alienate people that may be willing to give you helpful advice.
It's called frustration. I'm frustrated with the attitude coming at me. I need help yes. I don't need help in faith. I need help in health.0 -
You gotta HATE being fat/overweight more than you hate correct diet/exercise.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I do. That's why I'm sticking with it even though I hate it.
P.S. Patrick Willis is the man.0 -
I am very much so in the same seat as you. But this is why we're here!
It's why we need to lose weight!
Honestly, I still eat what I want (for the most part). I just log EVERYTHING. If I'm over, I'm over and I quit eating that day.
This helps me eat smarter, but not necessarily "diet".
I still go out to eat, a lot. I just research the menu a little more so I know what to expect and what to avoid.
Cleaning is considered an excercise on here. I don't have to pay for a gym membership and my apartment looks better.
I also have begun to take my dog on walks. They're small walks, just three or four blocks in the morning and when I get home from work...sometimes even before bed. We both benefit from it.
Youtube has TONS of workout videos. From five minutes to an hour and a half. You can stream them on your phone while you make dinner.
You'll either figure out what works for you or you'll be another person on here that slowly but surely gives up and stays unhappy with your body.0 -
this.Can I be blunt?
You just need to get over it or accept the fact that you won't ever have the body or athletic performance you desire. When the psychological need for you to be healthy outrides the need for you to comfort yourself with food or an easy life you'll find it a lot easier and find creative solutions to your predicament.
It could be worse though.
You could have to walk over 20 miles just to get access to clean water and only have the luxury of eating one small meal a day.
That would truly suck.
yes.
and, who says you can't eat steak? i've had steak 3 times in the 2 weeks and my body loved every last bite.
find an exercise you like. after a while, it might just turn into love. set up mini-goals, and work towards them. goals always drive me to work harder.
i hated exercising and loved eating really crappy food. i found zumba and fell in love. zumba was kinda like my gateway drug into all other exercises. eventually, i tapered down my zumba and added more resistance training and now my body gets really antsy and pissy when i don't get enough exercise in during the week. the food choices took a bit longer. i focus on getting enough protein (STEAK! oh and chicken, turkey, fish...1g per lb of bodyweight) and everything else kinda falls into place. if you LOVE a particular food, don't cut it out, just save it for your cheat meal/day that week. i found that when my body started to change, it wanted better foods and i don't crave the starchy carby goodness that i used to DIE FOR in the past.
it's a process. some people are born LOVING exercise but most aren't. you've spend your entire life being mostly sedentary, your body's gonna take some adjusting before exercise becomes habit. it gets easier, i promise.
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I felt that way when I first started. But I quickly learned I was being realistic. And whether it was too few calories or just my sheer hatred, I was miserable, I hated every day, and I wasn't losing weight.
When I eased up a bit and started eating 1,450 calories, it got better.
Now I'm close to goal, and I'm not crushed if I don't lose. I have no problem having some naughty days. I also don't work out every day. I just bike ride. I'm not terribly exciting or devoted I guess, but I refuse to give up the foods I love and either work them in, or take a naughty day. (Like all you can eat sushi on Sunday. I didn't even log it. My husband did. He ate 2,700 calories!)
I worked harder in the beginning, but I'm still more fit now than ever. But between my busy life and my love of food, I had to find a balance.
Feel free to add me. I've been there, and even though it's better, I still struggle. (Like the block of fudge I ate yesterday. Crap.)0 -
You need to find an exercise you enjoy...like one that doesn't really feel like exercising. Do you enjoy hiking? Long outdoor walks?
You don't always have to go to the gym or run til you drop to get a decent burn.
As far as dieting goes, you should still be able to enjoy food you like however food like fries is really not going to do your body much good. Instead of eating "light" foods I would encourage you to make full hearty meals with a high quality protein. They may be slightly higher in calorie than traditional "diet" foods but it will keep you full for a very long time. Of course this will only work with a little (not even a whole lot) of will power but it has worked wonders for me! I never eat a skimpy salad for dinner anymore (although I love salads don't get me wrong!)
Lastly, just think of what you really want. Do you REALLY want to lose weight? Because you really need to want it or it won't happen. Maybe it isn't for you. Personally, I think anyone CAN do it but only you can motivate yourself. In the end, what will you be more glad you did- eat the fries, or lose the weight?0 -
I hate when people say at least you don't have walk/hunt for your food. REALLY?! Does that in any way relate to the ease of getting all the really bad for you things? Fast food the healthier the more expensive! Vending machines filled with chips (my biggest weakness-salty things).
Sure at least it's not forever-ago-BC and I'm a hunter and gatherer, because being in my twenties in Midwest America I can really grasp that concept.
By all means be blunt but be realistic!
I do have Netflix. I do try to do the Yoga/Pilates stuff. But without someone there to watch my form, I'm afraid I'm not actually doing it right.
I have Kettlebells & Jillian Michaels.
You don't have FITNESS CLASSES at your gym? Weird.
I go to Curves. I do not have a gym membership because from past experience there are rude jerks there that make comments like "just getting around to your New Year's resolution"? Or "hey how about you run to McDonald's and let us get our real workouts in". So NO I don't have "Fitness Classes" I have circuit weight training. Yeah... really weird...
That's terrible. No one should say those things! Have you tried a locally owned ladies gym. I find I feel most at home in a small gym with other women, and generally they are all at about the same fitness level as me. The one i attend even has Zumba classes and personal trainers (all women)... you might could ask around for reccomendations.
My goodness. That would be enough motivation for me to start lifting heavy - just so I could return and junk punch them.... with a huge ol' weight in my hand.0 -
then you're my lost twin.0
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Have you been to the doctor to discuss your joint pain? Do you take a calcium supplement? Severe pain as you describe should really not be happening after a walk I don't think.0
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Dieting and exercise is an addiction you have to build. Unfortunately its not instant like heroin. You do it consistently and after a couple months, you take a break- and you realize that you feel sluggish, restless, climbing the walls, scattered, unfocused, pissed off, agitated, less able to cope with stress, sleep quality drops and sexual desire drops. You walk in circles in the kitchen wondering
WTF DID I BECOME THAT GIRL? THAT GIRL THAT NEEDS IT?
Then you smile quietly to yourself an realize that you love it. Then you dare someone to just try and take away your fitness time. You'll take that sucker down.
Its a mindset that BECOMES, not a state of mind that you just put on.
Do not give up unless you werent serious about wanting this life to begin with.0 -
For the joint issues, get professionally fitted for shoes. There's a very high chance that a good investment in the right shoes will fix you right up.
I'm sorry you're so frustrated. I hate going to the gym, as well. It is a chore. But I want to love my body. Same as cleaning my house. What a big frickin' chore. But I love to live in a clean house.
I am fortunate that I love to run. I discovered that I love it at the young age of 22. However, there are still pockets of time throughout any year that it's all a chore. I set mini goals during those times. I tell myself "just stay at the gym for 20 minutes." Sometimes, that's all I do. I often exceed my goals.0 -
WHAT SHE SAID!! Great comment and this is soo true! Change the way you think about it, and remember you are doing this for you, and you alone!!I think you need to change your attitude towards working out. Stop focusing on how much you hate it and just learn to love it. I used to hate running but now I look forward to my 9 mile run. The more you moan the worse you feel, like when you're ill!0
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Of course! I hate having a restricted diet. Most days I hate exercise because it makes me feel like crap but... the day AFTER the exercise makes me feel WONDERFUL. And the restricted diet actually makes me feel good in the long run.
So in the moment it feels crappy but in the long term it feels wonderful.
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i'm totally that girl that needs it.Dieting and exercise is an addiction you have to build. Unfortunately its not instant like heroin. You do it consistently and after a couple months, you take a break- and you realize that you feel sluggish, restless, climbing the walls, scattered, unfocused, pissed off, agitated, less able to cope with stress, sleep quality drops and sexual desire drops. You walk in circles in the kitchen wondering
WTF DID I BECOME THAT GIRL? THAT GIRL THAT NEEDS IT?
Then you smile quietly to yourself an realize that you love it. Then you dare someone to just try and take away your fitness time. You'll take that sucker down.
Its a mindset that BECOMES, not a state of mind that you just put on.
Do not give up unless you werent serious about wanting this life to begin with.0 -
UsedToBeHusky: I did see your comment and thank you. I'm just increasingly frustrated with these comments bashing me. How can anyone come on this website and feel intimidated by someone else, if we are all on here for the same reason. Why do people who seem to have their diet/exercise in check have to make those of us who don't feel dumb or lesser than them??!
I didn't see a lot of bashing. Some comments were blunt and direct and others not very helpful. Still, when you ask others for their opinions, you will get them (especially on the internet).0
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