Is breakfast necessary??

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  • ichigo007
    ichigo007 Posts: 97
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    The info I received was given in comparison to men and women since I was married to a women who thought eating a giant dinner and skipping breakfast and dinner was good for her and how she keep gainning weight even thou she was exercising. So you should take your own advice since you have no medical expertese yourself. I never said I was a specialist. She should talk to her doctor and you should get clue.

    Doctor: Hello ichigo007, what seems to be the problem today?
    ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
    Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
    Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
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    I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.

    Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
    Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.

    seriously, WTF is an oppion???

    I looked it up in a dictionary and couldn't find it, unfortunately the urban dictionary is blocked at work, maybe it's in there?
  • ichigo007
    ichigo007 Posts: 97
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    I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.

    Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
    Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.

    seriously, WTF is an oppion???
    opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
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    ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
    Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
    Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.

    Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve
  • Louiyen
    Louiyen Posts: 69
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  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
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    opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.

    Go back and read how many times you accidentally spelled "opinion" as "oppion"

    Edited to add: The biggest reason people are laughing at you rather than agreeing with you is because you are unable to express yourself intelligently
  • cubizzle
    cubizzle Posts: 900 Member
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    I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.

    Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
    Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.

    seriously, WTF is an oppion???
    opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.

    well done....admitting you have a problem is the first step
  • cubizzle
    cubizzle Posts: 900 Member
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    opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.

    Go back and read how many times you accidentally spelled "opinion" as "oppion"

    BULLY!!!!!!!!!
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
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    ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
    Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
    Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.

    Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve

    I'm actually curious as to what they specialize in, hormonal balances, nutrition, women's health, men's health, diabetes, endocrinology, reproductive issues, denistry. Their specialty plays a role in their view because there are definitely medical issues that create dietary restrictions and scheduling.
  • Dan112358
    Dan112358 Posts: 525 Member
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    I fast between all meals.
  • cubizzle
    cubizzle Posts: 900 Member
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    I fast between all meals.

    I gotta go fast
  • Sister_Someone
    Sister_Someone Posts: 567 Member
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    No! I haven't eaten breakfast in months and as you can see, I'm still alive to talk about it. :)

    I'm a firm believer in listening to your body and doing what's right for YOU, because no two people are alike. If you can't stand food in the morning and don't feel like you need it, then don't.
  • ichigo007
    ichigo007 Posts: 97
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    ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
    Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
    Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.

    Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve
    Dr. James North, A Nurse nutrionist at Toledo hosptial in the ER., Jose Parodi M.D., a Toledo Hospital RN, a Toledo Hospital BSN, A Saint Charles RN with specialzation in Nutrition, Dr. Bruce Hillard, Dr. Mark Hillard., My Aunt who has been a nurse for over 30 years are some of the mediavl doctors I have taked too.
  • bellavita0125
    bellavita0125 Posts: 116 Member
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    I'm not a big fan of breakfast either but I eat something small anyway, otherwise I binge and make not-so-healthy choices at lunch time.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
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    Dr. James North, A nutrionist at Toledo hosptial in the ER., Jose Parodi M.D., a Toledo Hospital RN, a Toledo Hospital BSN, A Saint Charles RN with specialzation in Nutrition, Dr. Bruce Hillard, Dr. Mark Hillard., My Aunt who has been a nurse for over 30 years are some of the mediavl doctors I have taked too.

    Medieval doctors?

    Do you mind if I call these people and ask them their opinion on men vs. women in terms of metabolism boosting in the morning?
  • ichigo007
    ichigo007 Posts: 97
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    No! I haven't eaten breakfast in months and as you can see, I'm still alive to talk about it. :)

    I'm a firm believer in listening to your body and doing what's right for YOU, because no two people are alike. If you can't stand food in the morning and don't feel like you need it, then don't.
    Who said anything about dieing from not eating breakfast?
  • dandaninc
    dandaninc Posts: 392
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    I HATE eating in the morning, I'm not even remotely hungry when I get up. Is eating breakfast completely necessary for successful weight loss? Because I'd rather save calories for lunch lol. Any tips or suggestions for easy breakfasts would be much appreciated!
    :yawn:

    I am not an advocate of skipping breakfast despite this post. I AM an advocate of the individual finding the right aspects of dieting that are clearly personal preference, and utilizing those aspects to create the best long-term adherence possible.

    That said, there seems to be a lot of sillyness going on in here.

    First of all, note the quoted part above. The OP is asking if breakfast is necessary for weight loss.

    All of these claims about breakfast boosting your metabolism aren't backed by anything substantial. In fact, can ANYONE find me any set of studies that show greater expenditure given equal calories and macronutrients but with different partitioning? Go ahead, I'll wait.

    There's a few different things to address here. One of them is the concept of food increasing your metabolism and the other thing to address would be the effects of short term fasting on metabolic rate.

    As far as feeding frequency goes, any time you eat, you are expending calories through various digestive means. In other words, there's an energy cost associated with eating and this cost is based on the macronutrient composition of foods and total calories.

    Meal Frequency and Energy Balance.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    ...studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency...

    Different macronutrients do have a different thermic effect, but if we are comparing different meal timing we keep macronutrient intake and calories constant and just vary the timing of the meal.

    Increased meal frequency does not promote greater weight loss in subjects who were prescribed an 8-week equi-energetic energy-restricted diet.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
    ...We conclude that increasing MF does not promote greater body weight loss under the conditions described in the present study.


    Lyle McDonald's comments: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
    Steve Troutman's explanation: http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency


    Now, as far as "your body needs food, you've been sleeping for 10 hours!" or whatever the claim is.....

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837292

    There's at least some research suggesting the opposite, see above.


    Now in closing there's something quite important to remember, and msf pointed some of this out already:

    There is research that shows a correlation between weight gain and skipping breakfast but it's specifically because some people who skip breakfast will end up over-compensating so to speak, and eating too many calories for the day. But it's not the skipping breakfast that made them gain weight, it was the overeating of calories.

    As msf pointed out in a previous reply, there's a pretty significant difference between a population that controls intake (we are tracking on MFP) and a population that eats ad-libitum. If you're tracking intake, and you can see that skipping breakfast causes you to over-eat, then you should eat breakfast.



    However, if you're like the OP in this thread who clearly does not want to eat breakfast due to preferential/lifestyle reasons, then she can freely do so and monitor total daily intake. If she's not overeating for the day, her breakfast skipping behavior is perfectly fine.

    Another incredibly informative and educational post using research and facts as your basis. Thank you.

    edit: added al at the end of educational. Stupid keyboard always screwing with me.
  • clairekugler
    clairekugler Posts: 11 Member
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    Necessary - YES
    Awesome - YES
    According to studies, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's what gets your metabolism hopping. 3oz protein and some fruits or veggies is a healthy way to a new day :D
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
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    ichigo007:
    You should eat after breakfast because your body will go into a like starvation mode and it will mess with your metabolisim for the day and your body will start loading on fat. Breakfast also boost your metabolism and kicks starts it for the day. This is especially needed for woman.
    I did not say anything about Metabolic rate with this study.
  • rlmadrid
    rlmadrid Posts: 694 Member
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    Necessary - YES
    Awesome - YES
    According to studies, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's what gets your metabolism hopping. 3oz protein and some fruits or veggies is a healthy way to a new day :D

    Did you even read the thread?
    Check out the actual info in Sidesteal's post, please.

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