Is breakfast necessary??
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Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.The info I received was given in comparison to men and women since I was married to a women who thought eating a giant dinner and skipping breakfast and dinner was good for her and how she keep gainning weight even thou she was exercising. So you should take your own advice since you have no medical expertese yourself. I never said I was a specialist. She should talk to her doctor and you should get clue.
Doctor: Hello ichigo007, what seems to be the problem today?
ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.0 -
Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.
Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
seriously, WTF is an oppion???
I looked it up in a dictionary and couldn't find it, unfortunately the urban dictionary is blocked at work, maybe it's in there?0 -
opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.
Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.
Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
seriously, WTF is an oppion???0 -
Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve0 -
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opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.
Go back and read how many times you accidentally spelled "opinion" as "oppion"
Edited to add: The biggest reason people are laughing at you rather than agreeing with you is because you are unable to express yourself intelligently0 -
opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.
Why would anyone listen to your BS ether. Maybe people ask questions on her to get a gerilize oppion of a group who have the same goals and can take that information and grow there own oppion. I don't understand why people are so full of themselfs to think that there oppions are better than others. I posted my oppion. Stated that the information was from Medical proffesionals and that I was not a medical speciallist and I am scorned, laughed at and retiqualed on her for it. well screw all you holy than all people. sorry for throwing my oppion out there and I will reframe from using the forum or reading any topic on her because it must all be complete BS.I told you I am not a medical specialist and that my information came straight from the mouths of over 12 medical specialist and nutrionist and never clamed That I was a medical specialist. So if you don't beleave what I was told then I that is your own oppion. I could wast my day going thru internet and books and back all the info that I was told about meals and diet from medical profesionals but I do have a life and if you don't like the info its your own choice. Those of you who have questioned the info I have given have not given any studies or info to counter anything that I have relayed.
Then maybe you'll understand why other people aren't "wast"ing their time taking your "oppions" seriously
seriously, WTF is an oppion???
well done....admitting you have a problem is the first step0 -
opinion. Sorry when I type fast some times I my spelling gets off lol. I am not perfect.
Go back and read how many times you accidentally spelled "opinion" as "oppion"
BULLY!!!!!!!!!0 -
Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve
I'm actually curious as to what they specialize in, hormonal balances, nutrition, women's health, men's health, diabetes, endocrinology, reproductive issues, denistry. Their specialty plays a role in their view because there are definitely medical issues that create dietary restrictions and scheduling.0 -
I fast between all meals.0
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I fast between all meals.
I gotta go fast0 -
No! I haven't eaten breakfast in months and as you can see, I'm still alive to talk about it.
I'm a firm believer in listening to your body and doing what's right for YOU, because no two people are alike. If you can't stand food in the morning and don't feel like you need it, then don't.0 -
Dr. James North, A Nurse nutrionist at Toledo hosptial in the ER., Jose Parodi M.D., a Toledo Hospital RN, a Toledo Hospital BSN, A Saint Charles RN with specialzation in Nutrition, Dr. Bruce Hillard, Dr. Mark Hillard., My Aunt who has been a nurse for over 30 years are some of the mediavl doctors I have taked too.
Now you are just acting stupid. Yes I said you are ACTING stupid not calling you stupid. I said I was not a medical specialist and my info came from medical professionals so you can take your Doctor smart remark and shove it in you you know where if you still have room with your head stuck up there.ichigo007: I've been experiencing some shoulder pain...
Doctor: ITS IMPORTANT FOR WOMAN TO EAT BRAKE FAST BECAUSE SOMETHING HORMONES OF THE 2 GENDERS IS DIFFERENT.
Can you name any of the twelve medical specialists you are citing? I'd settle for eleven out of twelve0 -
I'm not a big fan of breakfast either but I eat something small anyway, otherwise I binge and make not-so-healthy choices at lunch time.0
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Dr. James North, A nutrionist at Toledo hosptial in the ER., Jose Parodi M.D., a Toledo Hospital RN, a Toledo Hospital BSN, A Saint Charles RN with specialzation in Nutrition, Dr. Bruce Hillard, Dr. Mark Hillard., My Aunt who has been a nurse for over 30 years are some of the mediavl doctors I have taked too.
Medieval doctors?
Do you mind if I call these people and ask them their opinion on men vs. women in terms of metabolism boosting in the morning?0 -
Who said anything about dieing from not eating breakfast?No! I haven't eaten breakfast in months and as you can see, I'm still alive to talk about it.
I'm a firm believer in listening to your body and doing what's right for YOU, because no two people are alike. If you can't stand food in the morning and don't feel like you need it, then don't.0 -
I HATE eating in the morning, I'm not even remotely hungry when I get up. Is eating breakfast completely necessary for successful weight loss? Because I'd rather save calories for lunch lol. Any tips or suggestions for easy breakfasts would be much appreciated!
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I am not an advocate of skipping breakfast despite this post. I AM an advocate of the individual finding the right aspects of dieting that are clearly personal preference, and utilizing those aspects to create the best long-term adherence possible.
That said, there seems to be a lot of sillyness going on in here.
First of all, note the quoted part above. The OP is asking if breakfast is necessary for weight loss.
All of these claims about breakfast boosting your metabolism aren't backed by anything substantial. In fact, can ANYONE find me any set of studies that show greater expenditure given equal calories and macronutrients but with different partitioning? Go ahead, I'll wait.
There's a few different things to address here. One of them is the concept of food increasing your metabolism and the other thing to address would be the effects of short term fasting on metabolic rate.
As far as feeding frequency goes, any time you eat, you are expending calories through various digestive means. In other words, there's an energy cost associated with eating and this cost is based on the macronutrient composition of foods and total calories.
Meal Frequency and Energy Balance.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
...studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency...
Different macronutrients do have a different thermic effect, but if we are comparing different meal timing we keep macronutrient intake and calories constant and just vary the timing of the meal.
Increased meal frequency does not promote greater weight loss in subjects who were prescribed an 8-week equi-energetic energy-restricted diet.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
...We conclude that increasing MF does not promote greater body weight loss under the conditions described in the present study.
Lyle McDonald's comments: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
Steve Troutman's explanation: http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency
Now, as far as "your body needs food, you've been sleeping for 10 hours!" or whatever the claim is.....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405717
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837292
There's at least some research suggesting the opposite, see above.
Now in closing there's something quite important to remember, and msf pointed some of this out already:
There is research that shows a correlation between weight gain and skipping breakfast but it's specifically because some people who skip breakfast will end up over-compensating so to speak, and eating too many calories for the day. But it's not the skipping breakfast that made them gain weight, it was the overeating of calories.
As msf pointed out in a previous reply, there's a pretty significant difference between a population that controls intake (we are tracking on MFP) and a population that eats ad-libitum. If you're tracking intake, and you can see that skipping breakfast causes you to over-eat, then you should eat breakfast.
However, if you're like the OP in this thread who clearly does not want to eat breakfast due to preferential/lifestyle reasons, then she can freely do so and monitor total daily intake. If she's not overeating for the day, her breakfast skipping behavior is perfectly fine.
Another incredibly informative and educational post using research and facts as your basis. Thank you.
edit: added al at the end of educational. Stupid keyboard always screwing with me.0 -
Necessary - YES
Awesome - YES
According to studies, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's what gets your metabolism hopping. 3oz protein and some fruits or veggies is a healthy way to a new day
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ichigo007:You should eat after breakfast because your body will go into a like starvation mode and it will mess with your metabolisim for the day and your body will start loading on fat. Breakfast also boost your metabolism and kicks starts it for the day. This is especially needed for woman.I did not say anything about Metabolic rate with this study.0
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Necessary - YES
Awesome - YES
According to studies, breakfast truly is the most important meal of the day, it's what gets your metabolism hopping. 3oz protein and some fruits or veggies is a healthy way to a new day
Did you even read the thread?
Check out the actual info in Sidesteal's post, please.0 -
Go ahead. I don't give a crap. They are all doctors and nurses that have treated me or I know personally. I suffer from server gastric reflux and have recently been told by my Doctor I have prediabeties mainly because it runs in my family and I have in the past not eaten right and not eaten a good balanced diet with exercise and gain a crap load of weight. Hense why I use MFP and Exercise regularly and eat a minimum of 3 meals sometimes more specially on days I exercise. I listen to my doctors and have had extremely good remarks from them on my quick healing and good health increases.Dr. James North, A nutrionist at Toledo hosptial in the ER., Jose Parodi M.D., a Toledo Hospital RN, a Toledo Hospital BSN, A Saint Charles RN with specialzation in Nutrition, Dr. Bruce Hillard, Dr. Mark Hillard., My Aunt who has been a nurse for over 30 years are some of the mediavl doctors I have taked too.
Medieval doctors?
Do you mind if I call these people and ask them their opinion on men vs. women in terms of metabolism boosting in the morning?0 -
The study I posted was not part of that post or to explain that post. If you are going to take little parts of every post that where answering different subject mater then you should get a life.ichigo007:You should eat after breakfast because your body will go into a like starvation mode and it will mess with your metabolisim for the day and your body will start loading on fat. Breakfast also boost your metabolism and kicks starts it for the day. This is especially needed for woman.I did not say anything about Metabolic rate with this study.
The first quote you posted from my first post was on eating breakfast because your body was fasting while you where sleeping and that basically any changes in diet or not eating after a fast can affect your metabolic rate.
The second quote you posted from another post that I had posted was a study showing some importance on eating breakfast and snacks above and beyond just lunch and dinner loose more weight and keep it off0 -
Yes breakfast is very important. When you wake up your body is at a fasting glucose low. If you do not eat your blood sugar will fluctuate to a very low number and then jump up quickly once you do eat. Eventually your body may not be able to regulate the insulin properly. I never ate breakfast because I wasn't hungry. That and intentional fasting (starving myself to lose weight) has messed my insulin up so it isn't properly regulating itself. I am now type 2 diabetic and struggling to stay off medications. If you are not hungry I find that a piece of fruit or 1 Piece of toast is sufficient. The main goal is to keep your blood sugar regulated on an even keel so you don't. Have continuous spikes and then crash to a low number.
Oh yes once your body realizes it is starving it will struggle to hold onto every ounce of fat that it can making it harder to lose weight. It is best to spread your calories (ENERGY) evenly throughout the day.0 -
Okay. I'm sure it varies, but take it from someone who has struggled with weight for years. I rarely ate breakfast because I was never hungry in the morning. I changed my eating habits in January. I now try to eat 6 times a day and rarely miss breakfast. I even eat when I am not hungry. This keeps the metabolism burning and active. It keeps me from getting hungrier and I am never "starving" so smaller portions and healthier portions are working for me. I just hit my target weight today of 210 pounds. I haven't weighed this little since my football days in High School. I'm 55 years old, so it feels pretty good. Eating breakfast, even when I'm not hungry, works for me. I'm sticking to it. This weight loss has been VERY easy for me. 77 pounds in 7 months.0
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Oh yes once your body realizes it is starving it will struggle to hold onto every ounce of fat that it can making it harder to lose weight.
Only if you're eating too few calories.0 -
I guess the biggest problem with some of these attacking posters is they have nothing better to do than to force there opinions on others and laugh and attack others who give there opinions and make spelling errors typing. I have not seen any set information that backs the backlash that I have received from the other posters that proves my opinion or info is wrong. I am not saying my information is wrong or correct but I do not understand why I am being attacked for not being as perfect and GOD like the other posters in this topic. I am sorry for posting. You all are right I am not worthy of a opinion or being human. I will go and Eat my breakfast and continue to loose weigh and gain lean muscle and be healthy. I don't care if you eat breakfast or not. I was only voicing what I was told.0
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9 out of 10 towels agree that, yes, towels are necessary.
http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Towelie
Anyone else notice that the person who created the thread seems to have no interest in replying while everyone else bickers. This crap is more annoying than politics.0 -
Oh yes once your body realizes it is starving it will struggle to hold onto every ounce of fat that it can making it harder to lose weight.
Only if you're eating too few calories.
does this include my exercise calories?0 -
9 out of 10 towels agree that, yes, towels are necessary.
http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Towelie
Anyone else notice that the person who created the thread seems to have no interest in replying while everyone else bickers. This crap is more annoying than politics.
"Don't forget to bring a towel"0 -
does this include my exercise calories?
No only your carb calories except if you ate fiber then those calories magically become part of your water intake for the day0
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