Overweight and obese children!!!

zsaoosh

It is abuse in my book. Food should be treated as poiston if it gets to the point of health issues. My kids eat what is put in front of them except one. She is very picky, but do you know what I do? I serve it for the next meal and then the next meal until her stomach takes over for her stubbornness and she finally eats. She is getting better because she knows she is going to have to eat it anyway and is now starting to like some of the food.

staceybrewer

OK - I must speak up!
I was a very overweight child. My parents did everything they could. My mother is an RN and knows what to feed her children.

I hate to hear people make such generalizations about every person out there. We don't fall into the same mold.

I have learned over the years that I have a serious food addiction. I had weightloss surgery 12 years ago and without that I would have just continued to eat my way into oblivion.

You can't blame the whole world for what one person does. I made my own choices, I would sneak mass quanitities of food (just like a dope fiend), I would lie to everyone, I would take advantage of deals (lose 20 pounds and we'll get you a kitten), and try to do what I needed to do to appease everyone.

I never wanted it for myself.

There is not much you can do for a child who does not want it for themselves.

I speak from experience on this. Don't blame the parents... at least not all the time!

ailsauk

I was an overweight child because I was unhappy and I used to steal food!

My son now sixteen has Aspergers, he was overweight, should I be ashamed of myself? No I was trying everything I could do to encourage him. Because of his Aspergers I need to talk to him in a very direct manner. I sat him down, he was 14 at the time. I told him if he didn't lose weight he would get diabetes and he would die you. Harsh yes but that's how you talk to them! I took all junk food out of the house and told him I wouldn't ban any foods but if he wanted any junk food he would have to walk and get some, and go on the trampoline for half an hour! He was 11 st

He is now 9 stone and on the average centile!

Sometimes it isn't the parents fault, yes they could do more to educate and be a good example.

I have realised that Luke works with routines and if he has breakfast and there is nothing planned for the morning he immediately starts asking about lunch. It is because of the lack of structure in his day he starts looking toward the next thing in the day he knows will happen which will be the next meal. So now if he asks about food I give him things to do. Some days he's got to the afternoon and realised he skipped breakfast!

As with all thing there are individual circumstances!

Laces_0ut

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

staceybrewer

Since when is it the government's problem (CPS) what we feed our kids? That is just absurd!

Laces_0ut

its like saying "yeah i beat my child and i know its not healthy but its MY child"

now if your kid has a legit psychological or medical problem thats different but we all know thats very rare. most obese kids are the result of bad food and no parental guidance.

westup23

here the main reasons that kids are obese

1. There shelter in the house all day (when I was a kid we was out from sun up to sun down playing sports) now you keep your kids outside someone could take them from you

2. There cutting out p.e. out of schools

3. More fast food when I was younger we had more home cooked meals and less fast food
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So yes I think we have a problem with kids overweight

Flab2fitfi

child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.

Better warn all my friends - what about children who are seriously underweight?

of course! when we see underweight animals on tv are we glad when the SPCA steps in to help?

all of your friends have obese and underweight children? thats horrible.

Yes I have had two children who are underweight. One was at the dietician at 18 months and now going down the route as being diagnosed with Autism. My other child had an undiagnosed dairy intolerance.

I have many friends who have severely underweight children, many who have ASD, and have sensory issues around eating. These kids are usually under medical supervision because they do not eat. You can give a child food but you cant force them to eat ( THAT is child Abuse).

RedHeadDevotchka

I quote Michael Scott "I don't get why parents are always complaining about how tough it is to raise kids. I joke around with them, you give them pizza, you give them candy, you let them live their lives. They're adults, for Godssake.

I don't have any kids or anything useful to add, but I'm sure someone is going to take this quote the wrong way and that's hilarious.

angelalf1979

Wow, I am *totally* jealous that you can walk around without thinking anything about your surroundings. Have fun getting robbed/raped/ripped off because of your inability to judge a situation not being right.

NOW THAT IS A LITTLE EXTREME THERE, DON'T YOU THINK?
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Let me remind you that you were the one that clicked on this thread, read all of the replies, and then told everyone how terrible they were for having a thought in their head. Seeing an obese tried strikes a severe emotion in a normal person. That emotion drives people to want to discuss it. That's all that's going on here as far as I can tell.

We're not talking about getting a coalition together and confronting parents of obese children, here. It's just a discussion. People are *so* high and mighty on the internet!
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Why yes. Yes you are.

Flab2fitfi

I was an overweight child because I was unhappy and I used to steal food!

My son now sixteen has Aspergers, he was overweight, should I be ashamed of myself? No I was trying everything I could do to encourage him. Because of his Aspergers I need to talk to him in a very direct manner. I sat him down, he was 14 at the time. I told him if he didn't lose weight he would get diabetes and he would die you. Harsh yes but that's how you talk to them! I took all junk food out of the house and told him I wouldn't ban any foods but if he wanted any junk food he would have to walk and get some, and go on the trampoline for half an hour! He was 11 st

He is now 9 stone and on the average centile!

Sometimes it isn't the parents fault, yes they could do more to educate and be a good example.

I have realised that Luke works with routines and if he has breakfast and there is nothing planned for the morning he immediately starts asking about lunch. It is because of the lack of structure in his day he starts looking toward the next thing in the day he knows will happen which will be the next meal. So now if he asks about food I give him things to do. Some days he's got to the afternoon and realised he skipped breakfast!

As with all thing there are individual circumstances!

Ditto I have one like that and then another who forgets to get hungry.

Laces_0ut

Since when is it the government's problem (CPS) what we feed our kids? That is just absurd!

when it becomes abuse...just like physical abuse.

or should we just let parents do whatever they want? parent punches his kid...cant get involved!

violetta88

child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.

I work in child protection.

Trust me, we have more important things to deal with.

ElviraCross

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

jnh17

I quote Michael Scott "I don't get why parents are always complaining about how tough it is to raise kids. I joke around with them, you give them pizza, you give them candy, you let them live their lives. They're adults, for Godssake.

I don't have any kids or anything useful to add, but I'm sure someone is going to take this quote the wrong way and that's hilarious.

Hahahahaha! A Michael Scott quote is welcome ***and applicable*** to every situation. It's a rule (thought everyone knew?).

Flab2fitfi

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

Your daughter is gorgeous by the way.

jnh17

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

Oh I didn't doubt this for a second.

zsaoosh

child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.

I work in child protection.

Trust me, we have more important things to deal with.

I agree that it shouldnt go to child protection because there are worse things going on with kids these days but I do think parents should look at their parenting and educate themselves. Maybe schools should provide education to parents?

Laces_0ut

Yes I have had two children who are underweight. One was at the dietician at 18 months and now going down the route as being diagnosed with Autism. My other child had an undiagnosed dairy intolerance.

I have many friends who have severely underweight children, many who have ASD, and have sensory issues around eating. These kids are usually under medical supervision because they do not eat. You can give a child food but you cant force them to eat ( THAT is child Abuse).

i am certainly not including these types of things in what im saying.

i am talking about healthy kids who are being neglected not kids with ailments like you are talking about.

if we found out someone wasnt feeding their children enough and that kid was underweight wouldnt you want someone to step in and help that child?

opuntia

I do notice that more children are obese than there used to be. But it can be for various reasons - some children are obese because of medication, others because of a disability. I don't think I personally know any children who are obese from simply overeating, although of course that happens, and is getting more common. But because the obese children I know are obese for other reasons, I guess when I see obese children I'm very aware of a variety of potential reasons for it.

ElviraCross

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

Oh I didn't doubt this for a second.

no idea what you're even trying to say here...

ElviraCross

let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.

dont forget the soda in the baby bottle!

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

Your daughter is gorgeous by the way.

thanks! She's a little sweetie!

Laces_0ut

thanks for the tip.... it's cute how you think I'm serious.

p.s. my baby is breastfed. But you'll probably find something wrong with that too.

you arent exactly clear in what you are saying but i didnt really think you were going to feed her doughnuts.

and how could anyone have a problem with breastfeeding? thats the healthiest thing you can feed your child. just dont be one of those people that are still doing it when they are 10.

zsaoosh

Since when is it the government's problem (CPS) what we feed our kids? That is just absurd!

I think its more on the side of making our children unhealthy. Keeping them in an unheathy environment that causes then to develop health issues that could be easily avoided. If your child is addicted to anything you should be held responsible for fixing the issue.

violetta88

child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.

I work in child protection.

Trust me, we have more important things to deal with.

I agree that it shouldnt go to child protection because there are worse things going on with kids these days but I do think parents should look at their parenting and educate themselves. Maybe schools should provide education to parents?

I can only speak for my organisation - but we do provide this. Obviously not within CP, but as part of our parenting programmes. The resourses are there for people who want them, but it's what's described as early intervention - designed to educate parents before the problem takes hold, or help them reverse developing problems before they get serious.

Having said that - according to the government (and I should clarify I'm from the UK) early intervention is not statutory. We can't force people to attend. All we can do is offer help to those that ask for it.

Laces_0ut

so all you people against intervention really dont think someone should get involved with a malnourished or obese child?

just let the parent keep making that kids health worse and worse?

really?

zsaoosh

so all you people against intervention really dont think someone should get involved with a malnourished or obese child?

just let the parent keep making that kids health worse and worse?

really?

I think there is a line that a doctor should take into consideration when it comes to abuse, but you cant go chasing fat kids parents down :laugh:

jnh17

so all you people against intervention really dont think someone should get involved with a malnourished or obese child?

just let the parent keep making that kids health worse and worse?

really?

Malnourished, yes. Obese...I'm on the fence, really. I'm a libertarian so I have a hard time with the government being involved too much but when it comes to chidlren (that have no voice), it's not so easy.

jnh17

so all you people against intervention really dont think someone should get involved with a malnourished or obese child?

just let the parent keep making that kids health worse and worse?

really?

Malnourished, yes. Obese...I'm on the fence, really. I'm a libertarian so I have a hard time with the government being involved too much but when it comes to chidlren (that have no voice), it's not so easy.

ETA - fat is one thing, I"m talking about debilitatingly obese.

zsaoosh

so all you people against intervention really dont think someone should get involved with a malnourished or obese child?

just let the parent keep making that kids health worse and worse?

really?

I think there is a line that a doctor should take into consideration when it comes to abuse, but you cant go chasing fat kids parents down :laugh:

I say this because I am 5'6''1/2 and weigh 132 and my body fat is 33%! I am skinny fat but in a size 4. Some people are way bigger but have a smaller body fat %. You cant be the judge, its not your call. But a doctor is in the position to make that call.